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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: September 18, 2017, 10:49:16 PM »
Guardian - Trump in Moscow: what happened at Miss Universe in 2013 ?

The Guardian has learned of additional, previously unreported, connections between Trump’s business partners on the pageant and Russia’s government. The ties are likely to attract further scrutiny by investigators who are already biting at the heels of Trump associates.

A full accounting of Trump’s actions in the Russian capital as that autumn turned to winter may be critical to resolving a controversy that has already consumed the first eight months of his presidency.

“Our committee’s investigation will not be complete unless we fully understand who President Trump met with when he was over in Russia for Miss Universe, and what follow-up contacts occurred,” Eric Swalwell, a California Democrat on the House intelligence committee, said in an interview.

Trump’s attorney, John Dowd, declined to answer when asked whether the president’s team accepts that the Miss Universe contest is a legitimate area of inquiry for investigators. “Fake news,” Dowd said in an email.

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The forum / Re: *** LOGIN IS BROKEN - But There is a Workaround
« on: September 18, 2017, 07:47:17 PM »
See above....  :)

Keep it up!   ;)

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Policy and solutions / Re: Solar Roadways
« on: September 18, 2017, 07:43:33 PM »
I assume people know about individuals who start nonprofit organizations and get people to donate money for some good cause.

And then pay themselves a nice big salary for running the nonprofit, spending only a small portion of the collected money on the cause.

When I see an idea without a lot of logic or data behind it and no venture capitalists or corporations showing interest I wonder if the goal isn't about creating an income.  Even when the people know that they've got nothing valid.  That makes me very wary until I see some reliable data.

I get like that when I see a YouTube video about over-unity magnet motor-powered anti-Niburu flying saucers.  ;D

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 18, 2017, 07:35:05 PM »
"Floodwaters contain a cocktail of pathogens and parasites, including E. coli, Salmonella, typhoid and cholera. ..."

Not to mention stuff from the badly-named superfund sites aka heavily polluted sites.  Google map of poisoned places.  Note very many in path of effects of Jose.


Seen a few posts regarding the potential issue with EPA Superfund classified sites and just wanted to clarify the actual risk associated with these areas.

[snip]

Yamatin: many thanks for your input.

Given that floodwaters tend to be fast in, slow out, would you agree that it is likely that there would be a gradient of pollution around a contaminated flooded site rather than dilution over a substantial area?  I have seen this effect for small scale flooding: a foot or two of water lingering for a week or two.  I have no experience of anything deeper or longer lasting. (For which I am eternally grateful)

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Policy and solutions / Re: UN Climate Agreement - Paris 2015 and beyond
« on: September 17, 2017, 10:25:33 PM »
Press regulator censures Mail on Sunday for global warming claims

Mail on Sunday criticised by Ipso for article claiming global warming data had been exaggerated to win Paris climate change agreement

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/sep/17/press-regulator-censures-mail-on-sunday-for-global-warming-claims
A small step in the right direction.

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Policy and solutions / Re: Solar Roadways
« on: September 17, 2017, 10:15:20 PM »
Dave, most excellent and enthusiastic video blogger, trustworthy source on all things electronic:

https://youtu.be/obS6TUVSZds

Published on 19 Jun 2014

Dave debunks the Solar Roadways project that generated over $2.1M on Indiegogo, as well as almost another million dollars in US government funding.
----------------------------

https://youtu.be/HOZBrHqTJk4
Published on 6 Nov 2014

Dave yet again debunks Solar (Freaking) Roadways. This time the prototype SolaRoad solar cycleway path installed in Amsterdam in Netherlands.
Dave shows how to go about doing ballpark engineering feasibility calculations for such a project, calculates the expected payback period, and SPOILER, shows why Solar Roadways will never be a viable technology. This time using real measured data from the Netherlands cycleway prototype, and real measured solar insolation data for the Netherlands


EEVblog
NO SCRIPT, NO FEAR, ALL OPINION
An off-the-cuff Video Blog about Electronics Engineering, for engineers, hobbyists, enthusiasts, hackers and Makers
Hosted by Dave Jones from Sydney Australia

Highly recommended blog if, like me, you dabble in electronics.

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 17, 2017, 10:02:35 PM »
"Floodwaters contain a cocktail of pathogens and parasites, including E. coli, Salmonella, typhoid and cholera. ..."

Not to mention stuff from the badly-named superfund sites aka heavily polluted sites.  Google map of poisoned places.  Note very many in path of effects of Jose.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1ufPxvmFcqVFOq2LEFew9CL28ePI&hl=en_US&ll=34.26378938618664%2C-77.55964843750002&z=6

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The forum / Re: ***LOGIN IS BROKEN - But There is a Workaround
« on: September 17, 2017, 09:51:28 PM »
Bumpitty !

Well done Sigmetnow.   8)

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The forum / Re: Login broken
« on: September 17, 2017, 01:18:34 AM »
Neven, would you post a link to this thread somewhere prominent on your blog and the fron page of this forum ? I notice a bunch of regulars have not posted in some time.

sidd

Perhaps make this thread sticky until the bug is sorted?

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The forum / Re: Login broken
« on: September 16, 2017, 09:51:49 PM »
Hunh.  Thought it was just me...  :o

A couple weeks ago, one morning I got a (405?) error trying to access the forum (server not found, or something).

Sept. 8, I kept getting "Forbidden - You don't have permission to access / on this server".

And since last night, the "your session timed out while posting" message.

Got in now using the lower login screen, as others have described.  At least persistence pays off!

Sigmetnow:  I tried to join in with those who were thanking you for your tremendous input here, but my comment got buried in an avalanche of messages.  So:thank you!

As you said: persistence pays off.  ;D

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 16, 2017, 09:45:43 PM »
At 10 a.m., the center of Category 1 Hurricane Jose was about 480 miles south southeast of Cape Hatteras, N.C., and about 500 miles southwest of Bermuda, moving northwest at 9 mph, with maximum sustained winds of 80 mph. Forecasters  expect the storm's top winds to increase to 85 mph over the next two days before beginning to weaken slowly.

"Interests from North Carolina northward to New England on the east coast of the United States should monitor the progress of this system," said Hurricane Specialist Robbie Berg in a public advisory message. "Tropical storm watches may be needed for portiions of this area during the next day or two."

The Times Picayune

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: September 16, 2017, 09:41:03 PM »
From Washington Post

This is the week that Trump's “fake news” attack lost its power.
...
An Infowars host told a Trump supporter that the New York Times is not fake news.
...
... even Breitbart is echoing the mainstream media and reporting that Trump is, indeed, waffling on the wall.

Looks like Donnie is suffering from a dose of hatburn. (sic)


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The forum / Re: Arctic Sea Ice Forum Humor
« on: September 15, 2017, 08:12:17 PM »
little wrecker

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 15, 2017, 07:26:28 PM »
Latest from NHC, image modified to show all 3 panels at once.

Latest wave heights from NHC.


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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 14, 2017, 08:38:41 PM »
Windy.com shows why I am feeling cold in my garden here in sourthern England: winds from north Russia via Arctic.

I have found the windy.com forecasts to be accurate over about 3 days, less so after that.

Today's 3 day forecast (for Monday 18 Sept.) show Jose brushing the USA and a tropical storm / hurricane coming up in the Atlantic.

We are living in 'interesting times'.

https://www.windy.com/?2017-09-18-12,19.311,-50.977,3

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: September 14, 2017, 08:27:03 PM »
No. It's the MSM grasping at straws. NYT claims it is "Russian hackers", "Russian-controlled ...", "Russian information attack", "Russian efforts", etc. etc. , without offering one single piece of evidence that it is the state "Russia" behind this
Who is grasping straws?
I guess those FB ads bought by a Russian troll farm are quite good evidence: Money is followable.

"Money is followable" - and fungible.

Similarly, trolling is both fungible, as e.g. via a troll farm, and followable as e.g via web records.

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The forum / Re: login broken
« on: September 14, 2017, 01:57:46 AM »
Looks like the problem is with the login boxes at the top. If you go to the login link from the main page, the boxes on top of the resulting page also deny login with the timeout error. One needs to use the boxes lower down in the login page for it to work. Mebbe broken auto added header code?

i would look deeper but i have six hundred miles of road ahead of me.

sidd

Priority order:

1 stay alive
2 stay alive
3 stay alive.
.
.
.
123456789987654321 fix the login bug.

The ASIF attracts brilliant minds.  This topic keeps bouncing to the top of recent comments.  Having two login options is not needed.  Why not just delete one.

AAAAGH ! NO! Not that one, the other one!   ;D

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: September 14, 2017, 01:50:11 AM »
It's about Russian orphans.  Oh, yes, and billions of frozen assets.

The connection between Trump junior, Natalia Veselnitskaya and the purported "it was about orphans":  bait and switch.

From Politico.com

The calendar rolled back to June 9, 2016, this week and stuck there.

Testifying in a closed-door session with Senate Judiciary Committee investigators, Donald J. Trump Jr. reprised the now famous day he met in Trump Tower with a gaggle of Russians and his wingmen, Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort. Special counsel Robert S. Mueller wore his own June 9, 2016, throwback jersey. He informed the White House his legal team would be interviewing staffers who were on Air Force One the day the president dictated (or helped write) Junior’s original statement about the Russian meeting, which alleged that the subject of the gathering was adoption.

The promised subject of the meeting wasn’t adoption, of course. As we know from the email sent to Junior by his go-between, a Russian government lawyer was supposed to bring him incriminating dirt on Hillary Clinton, an offer that Junior gleefully accepted. “I love it!” he wrote back to his go-between.


Now let's roll the calender forward again to July 2017 and ...

Bill Browder's Testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer who secured a meeting with Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort, was engaged in a campaign for the repeal of the Magnitsky Act, and raised the subject of adoptions in that meeting.

...

Despite the White House’s desire to reset relations with Russia at the time, ...  In November 2012 the Magnitsky Act passed the House of Representatives by 364 to 43 votes and later the Senate 92 to 4 votes. On December 14, 2012, President Obama signed the Sergei Magnitsky Act into law.

Putin was furious. Looking for ways to retaliate against American interests, he settled on the most sadistic and evil option of all: banning the adoption of Russian orphans by American families.

...

Why did Vladimir Putin take such a drastic and malicious step?

For two reasons. First, since 2012 it’s emerged that Vladimir Putin was a beneficiary of the stolen $230 million that Sergei Magnitsky exposed. Recent revelations from the Panama Papers have shown that Putin’s closest childhood friend, Sergei Roldugin, a famous cellist, received $2 billion of funds from Russian oligarchs and the Russian state. It’s commonly understood that Mr. Roldugin received this money as an agent of Vladimir Putin. Information from the Panama Papers also links some money from the crime that Sergei Magnitsky discovered and exposed to Sergei Roldugin. Based on the language of the Magnitsky Act, this would make Putin personally subject to Magnitsky sanctions.

This is particularly worrying for Putin, because he is one of the richest men in the world. I estimate that he has accumulated $200 billion of ill-gotten gains from these types of operations over his 17 years in power. He keeps his money in the West and all of his money in the West is potentially exposed to asset freezes and confiscation. Therefore, he has a significant and very personal interest in finding a way to get rid of the Magnitsky sanctions.


Since the assets of Putin and cronies were frozen he has tried by fair means and foul to "normalise" US / Russia relations.  Translation: "I want my money back!"



Russia Sought A Broad Reset With Trump, Secret Document Shows

In the third month of Donald Trump’s presidency, Vladimir Putin dispatched one of his diplomats to the State Department to deliver a bold proposition: the full normalization of relations between the United States and Russia across all major branches of government.

The proposal, spelled out in a detailed document obtained by BuzzFeed News, called for the wholesale restoration of diplomatic, military, and intelligence channels severed between the two countries after Russia’s military interventions in Ukraine and Syria.

The broad scope of the Kremlin’s reset plan came with an ambitious launch date: immediately.



What does Putin want?  Money!  When does he want it? Now!

Please do read Bill Bowder's entire testimony.

As someone here at ASIF famously says:

"Tick, tick, tick."

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The rest / Re: Arctic Café
« on: September 13, 2017, 09:34:06 PM »
A wall plaque / Latin motto,  for the Arctic Cafe -

o restabit
 fortis
afine placeto
restat
Oh, rest a bit
 for 'tis
a fine place to
rest at

Anon.

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President mmm  ttt T  Ter ... mmm T!  Tttrrr

It's no good. I was brung up to say nuffink that moight make lydies faint or froighten the 'orses.*

Previous to the current administration I could pronounce any word at all without feeling sick to my stomach.

Nazi!  no problem. 
Tory! ditto.
Teparty scum! double ditto.

President t.t.t.t.t.t........

I hate that self-centered unempathic money-grabbing racist bastard.

(And a great sense of calm descended into the Lockerby demesne, and all was well.)

* London-born son of a Cockney father. 

Q:   What's a bison? 

A:   It's a fing wot yer wash yer fice in.

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Walking the walk / Re: Trash
« on: September 13, 2017, 01:36:36 PM »

Hi!  My name is Patrick and I'm a litterholic.   :D

I just stumbled on this thread.  I thought I was alone.  Now i can share my addiction. (sob, sniff.)

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Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« on: September 13, 2017, 01:30:42 PM »
neighbors having bees removed just now, and reminded me that elephants hate drones, because they think they are a bee swarm. Has anyone heard if deer are the same?
Can we use drones to keep the deer out without fencing?

edit: and youtube delivers a no!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OBz6fMXKKI
:)
My niece is a licenced bee remover.  You wouldn't catch me anywhere near that stuff.  I was stung by a swarm aged about 4 yo.  Last year I was stung on the tongue while cycling fast when my mouth flew onto a bee.

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In Croatia there are lots of problems. The economy is a mess and corruption abounds, and so most people are mostly focused on survival. But with unprecedented forest fires this year during a massive heatwave and an unheard of precipitation event just a few days ago, AGW awareness is growing. I wouldn't call it environmental awareness in the sense that people are changing their ways (again, they have bigger problems in the short term), but it is awareness.
I agree that environmental awareness is growing. 

One measure is the number of newspapers reporting environment news accurately.

Another measure is the proportion of comments arguing strongly against what Guardian commenter semyorka called 'garden shed Galileos'.

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The forum / Re: login broken
« on: September 13, 2017, 12:24:58 PM »
I have the same thing - at least when I try to log in from the main page.

Clicking through to the actual login page first, that works though.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

I would never have thought of that.  I think my geek cred just went down: but yours just went up.
  ;D

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The forum / Re: https broken
« on: September 10, 2017, 01:58:52 PM »
Hi all,


I just installed the latest version of code, it should allow https run in a much smoother way.


Also, the Forum now has it's own official ssl certificate, so this will also help a lot!


Enjoy!

If only you could do that for a load of uni sites.  I frequently visit uni sites for research purposes: you would be surprised how often Firefox throws a wobbly and puts up an in-your-face dire warning.  I have to make an exception every visit because I run a sandbox, so every time I shut down, all those exceptions evaporate.  Along with all or any malware, natch!

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 10, 2017, 01:21:03 PM »

-snip-

I have the same problems with many American links. Are they practicing for an upcoming digital curtain?, or is it just my refusal to drop AdBlock Plus.  ::)
Terry


I don't use adblockers.  This works for me: there's no place like home.

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 10, 2017, 11:03:05 AM »
Sigmetnow: a reminder of last year, on earthquakes and hurricanes.
http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1574.msg94908.html#msg94908

Given how the seismographs get pretty active when a hurricane nears land, I guess there must be a link.  It tends to wake a sleeping tiger when you rattle its cage.

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 10, 2017, 10:58:02 AM »
Some video out of Cuba.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le4yL0hTelI


The worst hurricane in 85 years apparently.
Terry

Thanks for the link.  I appreciate YouTube links.  I don't do twitter and the video links just throw up a 'can't play' error on my computer.  I can see all the other stuff, pictures, hilarious replies to Trump that he never reads, etc.  ;D

That video reminded me of when I was little: Sheerness, February 1953 - big waves!

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: September 10, 2017, 10:36:22 AM »
There's a whole rat's nest of stuff out there about Imran Awan.  Most of it comes from relatively unknown sources and Breitbart.

Probable fact: Imran Awan was arrested for fraud, although I cannot find any definitive information from court, lawyer or FBI sites.

Almost certainly BS: Imran Awan stole secrets/computers/money/ballpens from government personel/offices/nuclear bunkers.

The frame is set up to make it appear that Clinton's emails were leaked by Imran Awan and that it follows that the Russians are as pure as the driven snow, qed.

This link may help: likely more truth there, although it seems every dem and rep has an axe to grind on this one.

btw, I'm UK and a Corbynista.  ;D

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: September 10, 2017, 10:05:14 AM »
The Guardian posted this today, Sunday at midnight-
Irma and Harvey lay the costs of climate change denial at Trump’s door

I was going to leave a comment, but comments have closed.

So, Sunday, when most people in the UK lie in, they post an article while most people are asleep and call a halt to comments when they wake up.

Maybe they just couldn't handle the volume of deniers.  Of late there have been fewer and fewer denialistas posting comments there, but today - wow!

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 10, 2017, 03:02:02 AM »
Hurricane Irma is literally sucking the water away from shorelines   Washingon Post

Explanation in article of how low pressure sucks water up and away from shorelines.

twitter picture.

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 10, 2017, 12:59:51 AM »
Reporters: brave, or foolish?  I vote brave.

As Hurricane Irma spins into South Florida on Saturday, New Times staff are scattered across Dade and Broward counties to document the huge storm's impact on the region. We'll update this post all day long with the latest on the ground in the path of the biggest Atlantic hurricane on record.
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/hurricane-irma-live-blog-9659109

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 10, 2017, 12:45:08 AM »
:o

How serious is #Irma threat in Tampa?  Propositioning of heavy track vehicles.
https://twitter.com/CraigSetzer/status/906632996685586432

...Meanwhile in Tampa, I just heard a noise outside my house & grabbed my cell ... Now back to making the coffee
https://twitter.com/Tim_Dorsey/status/906620217127837698
Video at the link.

Check your twitter - CNN and CBS want to use your "noise outside my house".

Stay safe!!!!!

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 09, 2017, 03:25:25 PM »
A plea for help from a St. Maarten resident, one of many.

I sent it to a Netherlands english language newspaper NLtimes.nl

Well done!

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: September 08, 2017, 07:00:13 PM »
From Washington Post

Kris Kobach’s leap of logic on voter fraud in New Hampshire should be disqualifying

Kobach’s essay would have been troubling enough had it only run with the idea that the 2016 results were uncertain because 5,000 voters voted with out-of-state licenses. But there’s that phrase with which he kicked off his essay: “Now there’s proof.” Now, he wrote, there’s proof “that out-of-staters take advantage of New Hampshire’s same-day registration and head to the Granite State to cast fraudulent votes” — the numbers cited above. They are to proof what Jackson Pollock is to portraits: If you really want to see a face, you’ll see it.

The comments are worth the read.  Try this one:
And the mentally challenged Trump worshipers will be all over this, as will their hoary lord and master. Because as we all know, all the votes that did not go to Trump were 'fake votes', cast by fake voters and illegal immigrants. I can watch "Ghost Hunters" and expect more reality in one episode than the entire Presidency of Donald Trump so far this year. Anyone who still supports the orange ooze is an utter moron and will probably need a lobotomy just to raise their I.Q. to that of a cockroach.

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: September 08, 2017, 05:05:56 AM »
When you've bought more hammers than your 50 nearest neighbors combined, you'll find so many things that absolutely need to be bashed.
Terry


Brilliant!


Just got an email from Miami New Times with a link to this -
Trump's Hotel in Doral Is Making Bank During Hurricane Irma


Amid the panic, Trump Doral's booming business begs an obvious question: Should a president who has slashed emergency preparedness budgets personally profit during a pending emergency?

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 07, 2017, 08:39:16 PM »
Possible 4th hurricane on same path?

Tropical wave behind Jose -


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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: September 07, 2017, 08:16:57 PM »
In case you missed it #2

Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections

Office of the Director of National Intelligence

Link to pdf.

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: September 07, 2017, 08:12:09 PM »
In case you missed it -

New York Times
Russian Election Hacking Efforts, Wider Than Previously Known, Draw Little Scrutiny

The assaults on the vast back-end election apparatus — voter-registration operations, state and local election databases, e-poll books and other equipment — have received far less attention than other aspects of the Russian interference, such as the hacking of Democratic emails and spreading of false or damaging information about Mrs. Clinton. Yet the hacking of electoral systems was more extensive than previously disclosed, The New York Times found.

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: September 06, 2017, 10:45:11 PM »
Donnie and Mnuchin (treasury secretary) have been out lying about US corporate tax rates.

The US does NOT have the highest effective tax rates in the world.  Our effective tax rate is is slightly above the middle of the pack.

The reason it is slightly above the middle of the pack is very simple:  The US spends almost 3 times the amount that China spent on defense in 2016.  We spent 9 times what Russia spent.  In fact.....we spent more on defense than the next 50 countries COMBINED.

So the problem isn't the corporate tax rate.  Next time you catch someone lying about this....you need to straighten them out.


Nicely observed, Buddy!

From http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/ike.htm

This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence – economic, political, even spiritual – is felt in every city, every Statehouse, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 06, 2017, 10:13:29 PM »
I just popped in to say to Archimid : "My very best hopes, thoughts and wishes for your safety."

And to Sigmetnow - a name most apt at this time: "I join with others to express my gratitude for your efforts on the ASIF and particularly in this thread."

And thank you all.  The ASIF should be the first port of call for any self-respecting reporter who wants the pukka gen on climate, just as is PPruNe for aviation matters.

Edit - from PPruNe - Hurricane? THIS is a hurricane.

Here is a later TAF. No METAR since 0800 this morning. I have never seen winds like this in a weather message:

TNCM 061121Z 0612/0712 300120G140KT 1SM +RA BKN015 OVC030
FM061500 250/60G80KT 5SM -SHRA BKN025 BKN050
FM061900 18035G50 P6SM -SHRA SCT025 BKN060
FM070000 15020G30 P6SM FEW025 SCT060


From wikipedia: Terminal aerodrome forecast
Each line beginning with FM indicates a rapid change in the weather over a period of less than an hour.

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History often repeats itself, perhaps because some people just don't 'get' history.  Or science.

I often come across old new stories which, merely by change of date and/or place names could be today's headlines.

The USA is witnessing the obvious effects of global warming, in the form of more intense hurricanes.  The world is witnessing catastrophic wierd weather.  The cryosphere continues to shed the very thing which makes it 'cryo-'.

We were warned.  Again and again and again.

I have started this new thread hoping for posts about historical warnings, bearing in mind that history is a matter of scale.  A century ago, a year, a week, a second ago: all past is history.  But pragmatically we can limit 'history' to mean 'written history', i.e. articles warning about the effects of global warming.

Here is a single link to two articles from 1989 republished by Context Institute.

Excerpts:
The summer of 1988 may yet be seen as the "environmental awareness summer," when the Earth spoke in droughts and floods. The Earth spoke and somehow we listened. Suddenly people are beginning to understand that nature is very closely bound up with our economic futures.

Dr Noel J Brown


... by giving traditional enemies a common adversary, global environmental problems can become an important vehicle for greater international communication and cooperation.

Joel Swisher


Regarding Joel Swishers words: I believe that Trump, by provoking N. Korea, by "giving traditional enemies a common adversary", and by thus promoting exports of US military equipment is promoting financial gain for himself and others at the expense of world peace.

Back on topic, and if Neven agrees, please post anything from the past on the lines of 'lessons have been learned'.

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: September 05, 2017, 06:49:01 PM »
Newspeak alert: 'allow' now means 'persuade through terror'.

"I am allowing Japan & South Korea to buy a substantially increased amount of highly sophisticated military equipment from the United States."
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/905047095488516098

The black art of the wheeler-dealer.

How do you use the office of President to maximise financial gains for yourself and your mega-rich friends?

Step 1 -
recognise that the military-industrial complex depends heavily on the fossil fuel aka petrochemical industries.

Step 2 -
make threats to N. Korea to encourage them to engage in even more sabre-rattling.

Step 3 -
sign military megadeals with the non-nuclear countries which feel threatened by N.Korea.

Step 4 -
get re-elected for having greatly boosted the earnings of the military-industrial complex, creating wealth and jobs and thus "making America great again".

--------------------------

Alec Baldwin interview on Trump.  Please do watch the whole thing.  Some very good arguments pro renewables.
https://youtu.be/9rNP1uwCcHI

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 04, 2017, 05:31:21 PM »
Good article in Forbes from Marshall Shepherd

Ok folks, I am officially concerned, and I usually try to be measured. It is Labor Day, and many people are enjoying the day off. There is a group of professionals, however, that is working very hard today as the increasingly worrisome threat of Hurricane Irma looms.



Hurricane Irma is a grave threat to residents in the Caribbean region and looks to be an equally worrisome threat for the contiguous United States. Irma is a category 3 hurricane and just to the east of Leeward Islands where hurricane watches have been issued. The latest 5-day forecast (above) is ominous, and I have distilled some important points from the 5:00 am AST NHC forecast discussion,

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Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« on: September 04, 2017, 02:46:40 AM »
A funny thing about slugs is that they seem to hide under the bigger salads and go out at night to eat the new ones that just came out of the ground. As long as you have new salads, the "older" ones can grow without being eaten.

That explains why I got about 3 lettuces from a whole packet of seeds.

I also got 3 cauliflowers - still growing.  There were caterpillars on the caulis but as there has been a decline in butterflies around here I left them to their free lunch.  First signs now of three cauliflower heads and caterpillars have presumably pupated.

A small patch of dwarf tomatoes looks promising.  Some trusses have 10 or more small toms on them.

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 04, 2017, 02:37:51 AM »
UPDATE: 

EPA says Superfund sites around Houston aren't accessible to its personnel. @AP got to 7 by boat, vehicle, on foot
https://twitter.com/jpacedc/status/904109681806893056

https://apnews.com/27796dd13b9549b0ac76aded58a15122


Amazingly unprofessional response from the EPA to the AP Superfund site story:
https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/epa-response-aps-misleading-story 



This EPA statement pushing back on the AP’s reporting is unreal...
https://twitter.com/passantino/status/904404196107194368b

The EPA press release links to a Breitbart story blasting the AP’s reporting as “fake news” 
https://twitter.com/passantino/status/904405497071198208

This reads like a Breitbart intern creating official US government statements. Which is probably what happened. 
https://twitter.com/teroterotero/status/904405476103909376

Yes! Total intern job. ( no offense to interns ) but clearly anyone knowledgeable about PR aid away on vacation. #EPA #Harvey 
https://twitter.com/brettaronow/status/904428208837275648

Minitrue has been at work.  Those twitter embeds have gone and access is denied on EPA site.

If it isn't available on the web then it never happened, and anyone who says it did is a fake news troll.

Reality control, 1984 style.
For how could you establish even the most obvious fact when there existed no record outside your own memory?

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 03, 2017, 06:40:35 PM »
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/MIAHSFAT2.shtml

HIGH SEAS FORECAST
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1630 UTC SUN SEP 03 2017

SUPERSEDED BY NEXT ISSUANCE IN 6 HOURS

SEAS GIVEN AS SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT...WHICH IS THE AVERAGE
HEIGHT OF THE HIGHEST 1/3 OF THE WAVES. INDIVIDUAL WAVES MAY BE
MORE THAN TWICE THE SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT.

PAN PAN

ATLANTIC FROM 07N TO 31N W OF 35W INCLUDING CARIBBEAN SEA AND
GULF OF MEXICO

SYNOPSIS VALID 1200 UTC SUN SEP 03.
24 HOUR FORECAST VALID 1200 UTC MON SEP 04.
48 HOUR FORECAST VALID 1200 UTC TUE SEP 05.

...

...

.72 HOUR FORECAST HURRICANE IRMA NEAR 18.2N 61.8W. MAXIMUM
SUSTAINED WINDS 120 KT GUSTS 145 KT.
EXTENDED OUTLOOK...USE FOR GUIDANCE ONLY...ERRORS MAY BE LARGE.
.96 HOUR FORECAST HURRICANE IRMA NEAR 20.4N 67.1W. MAXIMUM
SUSTAINED WINDS 115 KT GUSTS 140 KT.
.120 HOUR FORECAST HURRICANE IRMA NEAR 22.5N 72.0W. MAXIMUM
SUSTAINED WINDS 115 KT GUSTS 140 KT.

FORECAST WINDS IN AND NEAR ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONES SHOULD BE
USED WITH CAUTION DUE TO UNCERTAINTY IN FORECAST TRACK...SIZE
AND INTENSITY.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/22%C2%B030'00.0%22N+72%C2%B000'00.0%22W/@21.0975244,-70.8531945,2279478m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d22.5!4d-72

Mar a Lago to be eradicated ?

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: September 03, 2017, 03:11:17 AM »
republicans love big government. The military, the war on drugs, congressional pork and immigration are the clearest example. They only use the "big government" label for things they don't like.

Multiple likes for the big poster!  I have thoughts on 'let the free market take care of X'.  Lots of Xs out there.  Hmm. Traffic lights?  If we needed them the free market would install them at intersections.  Right?

How about Trump lets the free market take care of elections?  What's that you say, he already did?  Surely not.   ;D

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The forum / Re: Arctic Sea Ice Forum Humor
« on: September 03, 2017, 01:38:11 AM »
That last image shows the well-known dumbino effect.  The B is silent - something to do with insecticides.

"Volumes might be filled with examples of men who fool-hardily counteract reason. Some trespass with impunity ; others pay dearly for their folly."

Alex. Sutherland, M. D. Attempts To Revive Antient Medical Doctrines, 1763

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: September 03, 2017, 01:31:04 AM »
AbruptSLR

That last quote had me thinking of April 15 1865, perhaps a 'glass half-full / half-empty' allusion.

I found the original words: he was evidently refering to taxes.  I guess you knew that, but we old-world inhabitants need to embark on a voyage of discovery aka a Google search.

Others would raise your taxes and the taxes of working families all across America. Well, we're not going to let them enact their tax plan, not on your life. Our pledge is for tax simplification, to make the system more fair and easier to understand, so we can bring yours and everybody's income tax rates further down, not up.

The American people aren't undertaxed; the Government in Washington is overfed. You know, I sometimes think that the main difference between ourselves and the other side is we see an America where every day is the Fourth of July, and they see an America where every day is April 15th. [Laughter]

souce: UCSB The American Presidency Project

In passing - or should that be: 'in parsing'?

Parsing the words is only the tip of the iceberg. A Trump needs to internally represent what has been said, in the contexts of 'me' and 'I', so the Trump can “think” about what has been said — that is, to manipulate the meanings to represent the concepts expressed in the words it received as a child — in order to respond in a way that connects back to the world of ratings and crowd size.

Blatantly plagiarised from Chatbots Magazine

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