Re: Last presidential election
ANES survey just came out, major points:
1)Clinton got the rich and lost the poor From the Washington post article:
"2016 was plainly an anomaly. While the wealthy are usually most likely to vote for the Republican, they didn’t this time; and while the poor are usually less likely to vote for the Republican, they were unusually supportive of Trump. And the degree to which the wealthy disdained the 2016 Republican candidate was without recent historical precedent."https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/04/17/racism-motivated-trump-voters-more-than-authoritarianism-or-income-inequality/?utm_term=.918adbe626ef
2)racists swing vote actually went for obama in 2008 and 2012. From the Booman tribune
"This data can be compared to previous elections going back to 1988. What’s surprising isn’t that Trump voters are more racist than Clinton voters, because the same finding is there for people who voted for Romney, McCain, Dole and the two Bushes. In fact, on three of the four questions that test racial attitudes, Trump’s voters were less racist than their Republican predecessors (the fourth question was a tie).
The big difference is among Democrats, or Hillary Clinton voters, who are far less racist in their attitudes than the Democrats who voted in any recent election, including the two for Barack Obama. The implications are bizarre, suggesting that a lot of racially bigoted people were willing to vote for Obama against an opponent who didn’t appeal too directly to their racism, but who flocked to Trump when he made “political incorrectness” central to his pitch. To be explicit here, a lot of racist Democrats voted for Obama and didn’t vote for Clinton, and they did it because of racism."http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2017/4/17/114259/800
The first point is why supporting Corporate Democrats will lose elections.
Re: "Without corporate funding, Democrats would be hopelessly out-gunned by well-financed Republicans."
Obama and Bernie crowdfunded their campaigns.
Re: " the idea that Ryan is anything but pure evil is gobsmacking!"
I said nothing about Ryan's moral standing. My point was that he is not as much of a corporate slave as the three others in my statement.
I accept that some think that there is no alternative to supporting Corporate Democrats. Well, I suppose this thread is not for them.
Back to the topic at hand: Who are the corporate democrats coming up for reelection in 2018 ? Who are their likely primary opponents ? If none exist, can an opponent be found and persuaded to run in the primary ? Pelosi is coming up for relection in the House, she has large sacks of money but no one is invulnerable, as the Hillary loss proved. I note with regret that Schumer is not up for reelection for a while.