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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: Today at 03:08:00 AM »
I've never been able to understand why so many foreign leaders call on Washington insiders to manage their campaigns.
Watched a documentary once where James Carville was hired by some African ruler to assure his reelection. As I recall, the election was won, but rioting broke out the next day & the peoples,(manipulated) choice had to flee for his life.

"You can't fool all the people all the time", may well be true, but apparently you can sometimes fool enough of the people long enough to win an election.  ???



I had a page of hateful things to say, then re-read your last offering and changed my mind. I've never met the Bavarian stupid, in fact stupid is an adjective I rarely use.
If we represent the un-stupid, then let's get behind party leaders that abstain from making stupid remarks and doing stupid things.
We don't despise those who aren't quite as bright as ourselves. We might despise some of the stances they take, or the actions they applaud, but, by definition they're not as bright as ourselves, and we should be able to influence them, at least to influence them for as long as it takes to cast a vote.

We need their help to defeat Trump & those who follow.

The votes are not in gated communities, elite schools, or business conclaves. The votes are in unemployment lines, welfare offices, and strolling through Walmart. 95 million Americans have given up hope of finding work - we need their vote.
Denigrating them for lack of skill, lack of intellect, or lack of drive, won't win them over. If we want them to care about our cause, we have to care, passionately, about theirs.


The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: Today at 01:36:12 AM »
The 10s or 100's of millions of dollars that Ukrainian politicians gave to Clinton's charity, just as they were extracting loans from the IMF, gave me pause.
I'm sorry, Terry, but this is one of those amazingly st.p.d false equivalencies I learned to hate last year. The Clinton foundation has a better rating than the Red Cross.
Sorry, but I didn't think I'd said anything nasty about The Clinton Foundation's work.
Just that the kleptocratic thugs who marched under Nazi banners were sending her millions that they'd skimmed from Ukraine, while crying poor mouth as they raked in the "donations" that the IMF was doling out. I don't think anyone believes these loans will be paid off, and it's not beyond the realm of possibility that Ukraine will soon be in need of The Clinton Foundation's services. should these thieves remain in power for much longer.

I'm not aware of any equivalency.


I sincerely hope that Dore is wrong when he says that we need a Progressive Party, out from under the democratic umbrella.
Third parties don't win in the States, and they have skewed elections. In this case they would siphon votes from the Democrats, possibly allowing an unpopular Republican to slip through.

My hope is that the Democrats return to their Liberal, Progressive roots.

I'm wondering how Tulsi Gabbard is holding up to the hammering from Corporate Democrats? Only someone Stateside will have a feel for how the public is reacting.
Is her seat safe in Hawaii?
Does she have any influence with the DNC, in Washington, or in the national discourse?

Thanks in Advance

I hope you've never taken anything I've written as a personal slap in the face. I think I'm beginning to understand your position WRT where the Democrats are heading & why we can't "clean house", at least at this point in time.
We need more voices with more, often divergent, visions of what it will take to shed the Republican's influence & I welcome & encourage your input.

The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: Today at 12:14:10 AM »

Appreciate the thoughts you express above.

The 10s or 100's of millions of dollars that Ukrainian politicians gave to Clinton's charity, just as they were extracting loans from the IMF, gave me pause.
Neither side can claim freedom from the kleptocratic scum grasping for favors apre the contest. Since Hillary outspent the Trumpster by some multiple I assume she scraped a little lower, but that's conjection.

I see Reagan, Bush the elder, and Bush the younger, as a downward progression in scholarship, intellect, and morality. Trump surely represents a base level beneath which it will be difficult to burrow.

The task we face is how to minimize the damage Trump and his Republicans can wreak, while hopefully hobbling him in 2018, then replacing him in 2020.

War is the most immediate, immanent danger. We need to lead our feckless leader back from the precipice he might well toss us all over.
Applauding his innately pugnacious nature will not help. Demonizing other world leaders simply highlights targets for his aggressions. We don't need a warrior king.

The next thing we need to do is to popularize the EPA and the wonderful work it has been doing. Overcoming decades of misinformation is no small task, but just about every American has benefited from cleaner water, clearer skies, even rivers that no longer catch fire.
This is a battle that can be won, and fighting against it can, and has brought world leaders down. Look no further afield than over your northern border for confirmation.
This is also a battle that can be fought in small discreet increments. A city that doesn't appreciate smog or haze. A county that takes pride in it's riverscape. A state that won't go back to acidic lakes or stinking beaches. These can become beacons of support for the EPA and centers of discontent to the present administration.

NASA is another weak card in Trump's hand. He wants to cut the budget & have them aim only outward, away from the earth.
Americans have rallied around NASA since Sputnik graced our skies. We won't be number two - again. The Big Blue Marble captured peoples imagination across all demographics. That was NASA looking back at the world, just what our leader wants to eliminate.
Google Earth is ubiquitous and a prime example of NASA looking back.
Ronald Reagan, then GHW Bush founded and funded NASA's Earth Science Research Program. Surely these forward thinking statesmen were cognizant of the benefits that would accrue? Surely no cowboy would allow bean counters to divert funds from this Republican program that "The Great Communicator" spoke of so highly?

I'm barely skimming the surface for battles that we can, and must, fight and win.

If voters don't get the big picture then we focus on the local. If voters demand change, we propose changes that will help them, not changes that bring back smoke filled skies and water faucets that double as an ignition source.
People are not stupid. They were fed up with more promises and less action. Point to a clear stream, a clean beach or a lush forest. We did that. We don't want to take their jobs, we want them building out a better grid, installing solar panels, working in factories that export American EVs to the world.

Back on topic:
As Jim points out we are capable of multitasking. But there are finite assets at our disposal, finite minutes of broadcast time, and frankly a finite limit to the number of arguments that the average voter can follow at one time.
Why waste any of this on a possibly quixotic attempt at impeaching the Republican Trump, in a Republican House, under rules parsed by a Republican Supreme Court. If we win we achieve a Pence Presidency, a person who defines himself as "A Christian, a Conservative and a Republican, in that order." His background as a conservative talk show host on the AM dial does little to recommend him.

If you can't convince me that Trump should be impeached for his interactions with Putin, what chance do you have of convincing a room full of Republicans, many of whom were elected on his coattails?



I think we should start a radio hour with reports from various possible futures back to our current one! Or maybe videos. Like the old "You Are There" series that generally stared Walter Cronkeit.

"Uncle Walter" certainly would make a grand spokesman for the cause - actually for any cause.

When he got on board with the anti-war movement during Vietnam, we knew we had won. The voice, the glasses, the mustache, all enhanced the deep gravitas that was Walter Cronkite. His booming pronouncements, even poorly heard through the cheap speakers of a plastic box as one fiddled with the rabbit ears to lessen the static, told us truth. Not truth as we wanted it to be, nor truth as they were spinning it, but truth as a pure distillation of the facts of the time.

We'll never accept such authority again, and that's probably good. But for decades he was the conscience of America, the burning bush that couldn't be ignored.

Thanks for bringing him to mind.


Because more important on this forum than opinions and truth and all that nonsense no human understands, is a good atmosphere. I don't want it spoiled.

You've kept to that philosophy since early on at the blog.

It may be the most important lesson that you've taught all of us.
Neven's is always a nice place to visit.


The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: April 23, 2017, 12:51:00 AM »
A bold move going straight to the heart of the matter.

We, the Democrats, progressives, liberals, environmentalists, or whatever we call ourselves today face a pivotal decision. Do we accept blame for the outcome of the recent election, or do we externalize it, blaming everyone but ourselves and our parties leaders?

Both positions can be defended. Many feel that externalizing blame is a healthy response when recrimination, depression, or a bad self image would result from taking full responsibility for some action.
I can't come up with a great example, and Wili doesn't like my analogies anyway. As a matter of fact it's almost a certainty that Wili's comment has affected me deeply and it's his fault that I'm unable to defend this statement properly.
Fortunately, as this wasn't my fault, it won't have a detrimental effect on my writing & I'll be able to continue with confidence.

See, piece of cake. it was all his fault.  8)

Others believe that by internalizing the blame, we can learn from it and correct the mistake. Somehow we lost an election that we should have had in the bag. Someone or something is responsible. Someone must pay.
We've been winning, and losing, elections the way we fought this one for decades. Most alive today don't remember when we ran on big government, to better help those in need. Most don't remember when a president, one of ours, sacrificed the "Southern Block", because Civil Rights was more important.
Most alive today believe that the only way to beat Republicans is to emulate their programs, their tactics, and their funding.

It's not true, but it is accepted as fact.

If Putin, or anyone outside of our party structure is responsible for our failure, then we can crush him, and drive straight to the finish line. Don't change a thing, the results will be different because we will have removed that which blocked our path.
Everyone stays on the payroll, everyone marches in place.
Life is good, the sun is shining and the birds are in full throat - until the next election.

If Putin, or Assange, or whoever, wasn't actually responsible for our demise, then we're going through the same motions, doing the same things, and expecting different results. Parties can't be crazy, political movements can't be crazy, we can't be crazy - oh shit !!! Crazy people never believe they're crazy.
Could blaming Putin for our mistakes be a sign that we're crazy?

If he's not guilty, I still don't like him, so what could it hurt to ruffle his feathers.

He's got bombs - BIG BOMBS
We let N Korea slide for years because they had small bombs, and not many of them.
And Putin not only has BIG BOMBS, he's got LOTS of BIG BOMBS
We're after Trump, not Putin. - Yea, yea, but does Putin know that? for sure?

When Trump's poll numbers were down he found a magic formula for INSTANT POPULARITY !!
All he had to do was talk tough, fire some missiles and drop the biggest conventional 16 million dollar bomb we had. Wow. what a warrior, he even spoiled his guest's dessert. What a man, where do I put my X on his ballot.

If Trump had bombed England, or Holland or Canada, they'd have sent the guys in white coats after him. Asked how we ever let such a monster into the White House.
So, if Russia, and Syria, and Afghanistan were seen as friendlies, Trump would lose his get out of jail free card.

It's up to you guys, I'm in a foreign country and therefor unable to alter your votes.
In 200+ years no foreigner was ever able to alter the outcome of one of your elections.
When Britannia ruled the sea, and the world, she couldn't change American elections.
A shame that the outcome will never again be trusted, by anyone.


The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: April 22, 2017, 11:28:25 PM »

I saw not one sign about Russia.

 No such national protest has yet happened about the Russia thing, as far as I know.

The total obsession about Russia-gate seems to be mostly an inside the beltway thing, and something the media have latched on to.

That's not to say that most activists are ignorant of it or don't care a thing about it. It's just not as central a thing, in my experience, for most citizens and activists as it is for the Washington insiders and the MSM.

These realities may be hard for folks to see from oversees, so I'm just letting y'all know.

Thank you, I am aware of how reality becomes garbled just by crossing the bridge at Detroit.

If Russiagate is not gaining traction, lets smother it in it's crib. The bigger it grows the more of a distraction it becomes. We don't need to piss off Putin to kill off Trump. Trump's surge in popularity when he started firing missiles & pushing giant bombs out of transport planes indicates that by demonizing Russia, we're actually providing Trump with an escape hatch that he can use whenever the heat gets too hot.
If all the world was our friend, the scoundrel couldn't start a fight to distract the lynch mob.

Bad choice of words, but you get the idea.


Nice to see you back home after what I'm sure was a wonderful adventure.
Did you happen to drop in at Murray Springs, just south west from Tombstone? Only interesting if Clovis hunters and dead Mammoths are your thing.

Reasoning and pontification are about the only tools available on this thread. We'll never be able to measure the benefits, or damage done by following one course of action over another.

If Corporate Democrats are sent into the desert, and Republicans win, "told you so's" will echo through the land.
If Democrats stick to the tried and true, (only more of it), and they lose, "you did it again didn't you" will peal from every (faux-ivory) tower.

Truth is that we need the Republicans to lose, and we need the winners to have cleaned up their act.
Personally I have very little hope of an outcome I'll be happy with. I don't think we can win using 2016 tactics & I don't think we can rebuild the party in the allotted time. When 2018 gains are followed by 2020 losses the recriminations will be fierce. I suppose what I'm attempting is to force progressive Democrats into going through the recrimination phase now.

What we did in 2016 will provide fodder for Politics 101 classes for decades to come, and not as an example of how to win.
What we are doing now, in 2017, will also be studied. Did we admit that we made mistakes, and try to rectify them? Did we externalize the blame and push the boulder further up the hill, hoping this time to take it past the summit.

I believe I know the correct course to take, but I have no way to prove this, and won't have even after 2020 has past. We can lose having made the correct choice and we can win, even if we've screwed up terribly.

Perhaps I should proffer the argument that we should ignore 2018 & 2020 and look ahead at what kind of party we want after the dust settles. Do we want a leftist party that ignores the bankers needs & wants, while working for the workers, or do we have a more right wing vision for our party, where what's good for General Whatever is good for the US of A. Perhaps a kinder, gentler, version of the Republicans.

Alas, the time is short & the die is damn near cast. It seems as though we're going to externalize the blame - Damn Trump, Putin, Wikileaks & Comey - as we drift in lockstep with the same cads that finance our enemy.
Finding myself at odds with those whose intellect and sincerity I respect, makes my self appointed task painful. At the end of the day you'll find me preaching to an ungrateful congregation. Still sure that my analysis is correct. A Casandra without the foresight to know beyond doubt what the future holds.


The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: April 22, 2017, 09:53:32 PM »
Sorry you're not comfortable with my analogies.
Please offer a few of your own.

When an Arizona senator has his picture taken with terrorists, this sends a message, not just to foreign governments, but to the voters in those democracies.
When Ronny Ray Gun broadcast that a vote for Ortega was a vote to continue the war against Ronny's proxies, that wasn't even a subtle threat.
Obama told the British that if they didn't vote the way he wanted, he would punish them by closing off trade. That was so successful that he's now phoning one of the contenders in the French election. - Sounds like collusion to me.

I'm not saying this is good nor bad, simply that it's pervasive. Suddenly prosecuting one actor for deeds that every head of state has engaged in is commonly referred to as selective prosecution & is generally frowned upon.

When the country that gave us "gunboat diplomacy" now tells us that collusion is a crime, this just might cause the outpour of mirth that Chomsky alludes to.

There are a thousand areas where Trump is vulnerable. Science, the economy, misogyny, xenophobia, or even climate change, why pick at the one sore that delivers the neo-libs the only opening they need.

Why battle against peaceful relations with the rest of the world.


I'm afraid I have not followed this thread.

Was the issue of freezing point at pressure finally resolved?

ASLR's excellent chart (reply #5), should provide all the needed information.

The freezing point of water remains virtually static from 10mbar to ~500bar (right scale). Since 500 bar =~ 5,000 meters of sea water depth, I think it's unlikely that water pressure is having much of a measurable effect on the freezing point.

If this has been resolved, or I've misunderstood the back and forth, please ignore this post.

Science / Re: Carbon Cycle
« on: April 22, 2017, 07:58:34 PM »
Terry still likes it.


AOL Bought Time Warner for $165B, then reality set in.

I don't carry individual stocks & I limit my exposure to the market to <5% of my net. A friend invests in collectible cars and laughs at the rest of us. If I was still willing to work at making money it's something I'd look into.

Musk is on a roll, but high flyers often singe their wings.


The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: April 22, 2017, 05:47:03 AM »
Apologize in advance for the source, but the pending charges against Assange bring up some interesting 1st amendment questions.

If Wikileaks is guilty, then how are CNN, Fox News, NBC, CBC, CBS, BBC or any outlets that have ever published Assanges revelations any less guilty?
Is the 1st amendment only to apply when the information is first vetted by TPTB. Should Watergate and the Pentagon Papers have been buried. Is the United States now so vulnerable that it can't stand the light of truth? Is the United States now so corrupt that it will crumble when the corruption is revealed?


Thanks Terry

I really appreciate your comments, and I promise I will relatively soon present a much larger ice sheet released island.

Have you kept up with Flade Isblink over the years? I remember much discussion back in 2011 or 2012 on the blog, when Independence Fjord was breaking up for the first time. The "grooves" that may have matched up with the Ellesmere Shelves grooves still fascinate.
Far more research back then on my part. So many new and wondrous things to learn. Fast ice that had been in place for millennia, wrenched from the land on high tides.
Your spotting of the new Petermann ice island was a high water mark that we all took pride in.

Sorry for the rambling

Wasn't AOL worth more than just about everything in the market at one point?

Not to negate your point, but the market can be fickle.


The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: April 22, 2017, 04:53:49 AM »
I'm sure the investigation will be totally without even the whiff of political skulduggery, and I'll pledge myself to abide by the result.
Just as Hillary pledged to abide by the will of the electorate.

I'm still pissed at Trump for abstaining from the pledge.


The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: April 22, 2017, 03:46:25 AM »

What if every student brought a calculator to a math test. But they decided that you alone had cheated?
What if every serviceman marched for Trump, but they insisted that by marching you had swung the election.
What if every countries leader urged Americans to vote for Hillary, but Putin urged them to vote for Trump.

The final example is almost exactly what happened. If Putin and Trump are guilty so are Hillary and Trudeau, Hillary and May, and Hillary and Merkel.

You certainly won't claim that America must stand neutral in Russia's coming election. I doubt that you would charge Mexico's leader for saying nasties about Trump. Why on earth would you expect Putin to sit on his hands when one candidate threatens war as the other makes nice overtures?



The main problem with your analogy is that in this thread we are outraged by the reported evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with Putin, so the outrage is about Trump.


So ...
You believe that Hillary, or her staff, would not have (colluded*) with Trudeau, May or Merkel to assure that their comments/influence didn't inadvertantly clash with whatever proposal the Candidate might be about to make?

*colluded - is assuredly within my vocabulary, although I certainly don't recall ever having used it. Conspired or plotted fall more naturally from my tongue. I certainly remember the 5th of November when they plotted to blow up Parliament, and conspiracy certainly slots into whomever was behind Kennedy's abbreviated presidency.
Colluded sounds to my ear to be something that a wordsmith might unveil if he didn't want to evoke memories of conspiracies, conspiracies that our wordsmith might much prefer being ignored.

Lets substitute conspired, just for fun. They're synonyms so either should do.

Now we can refer to the "conspiracy" that brought down Hillary. Those who believe in this theory might become known as "conspiracy theorists", so we can see why our wily wordsmith would want to steer far clear of those rocky shores.

So we're left with plotted or colluded. "They plotted to bring down the American Electoral System" vs "They colluded to bring down the American Electoral System". No problems with "Plot theorists". nor with, "colluded theorists". Plotting however seems to have gained much usage when buildings are brought down. Evil doers plotted to bring down the Twin Towers, even the crazed loner that perpetrated the Oklahoma City Bombing was accused of plotting it's destruction all by himself.

All these deeds bring back memories of conspiracies, so I'm afraid we're stuck with collude, collusion, colluding, and colluded. Some unheralded wordsmith, his name already lost to history, has left his indelible mark on the American Psyche.

Some will conclude t'was collusion,
some will cry nay, with dismay
But collude won't skewed
By the boorish or rude
To inspire a thought of conspire


Permafrost / Re: This is not good (methane clathrates)
« on: April 22, 2017, 12:32:40 AM »


Just outside London Ontario Canada.

If you're thinking of heading that way I can send a map or gps coordinates.

A huge snapping turtle survived the roil, and interestingly there were small, golf ball sized holes near by that must have pushed through at least 12' of very dense clay to reach the surface.

I had really hoped that during winter I would have been able to pop and light some ice bubbles, but alas, no ice.


Ha haaa... Rachel Maddow. I'm sorry I love her even more than Bill Maher.
 The girl has an excellent grasp of things. Oh yeah, me has a faible for lesbians.

I've long carried a lump, (in my throat)? for lesbians, although usually for the larger, more rugged variety.
For eons I was on an almost Captain Kirk like quest. "To come where no man had come."


The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: April 22, 2017, 12:14:31 AM »

What if every student brought a calculator to a math test. But they decided that you alone had cheated?
What if every serviceman marched for Trump, but they insisted that by marching you had swung the election.
What if every countries leader urged Americans to vote for Hillary, but Putin urged them to vote for Trump.

The final example is almost exactly what happened. If Putin and Trump are guilty so are Hillary and Trudeau, Hillary and May, and Hillary and Merkel.

You certainly won't claim that America must stand neutral in Russia's coming election. I doubt that you would charge Mexico's leader for saying nasties about Trump. Why on earth would you expect Putin to sit on his hands when one candidate threatens war as the other makes nice overtures?


Unfortunately the photo's about 10 years old, taken when when I was Peacefully Protesting Proroguing Parliament.

I'll be 71 in a few months & it was a life lived fast, and sometimes hard. I'm not doing as well as my peers here in Canada, but damn near everyone I knew in the States is pushing up daisies. Decent doctors make a huge difference, although to be fair Las Vegas had one of the worst health care systems in the Excited States, and that's where most of my compatriots died.

My father had a friend that never learned to drive. He lived ~1 mile from his business and had a cab pick him up, then drop him in the evening. Probably saved himself a fortune, but what could he spend it on that would be more fun than a daily drive? Dad said he would drive a bike to his factory, but that it wouldn't have been accepted behavior from one of the local nabobs.

I got my license at 15 and have driven everything from dirt bikes to dirt movers, sports cars to semis, and I love my time on the road.

I'd prefer taking a wheel chair to the car than walking to a cab.


The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: April 21, 2017, 09:23:54 PM »

I very much side with sidd on this.
We, (I lived most of my adult life in the States), were fed a huge pile of propaganda. Even though I knew I was being lied to, the propaganda had it's desired effect.
Those who swallowed it whole have a very warped sense of reality, and therefor a very warped sense of who or what to vote for.

Assange, at huge personal risk, has been slowly pulling back the curtain to reveal the monsters pulling the strings. Will other nations take advantage, certainly. Will we be better able to determine what is being done in our name, certainly. Is it less disturbing to not know what goes into making the sausage, certainly.

But we do have a right to know what those we placed in power are doing with that power. Watching LBJ ask Hoover's help in identifying homosexuals in government was hilarious. It also reminded me of where gay rights were only a short time ago, and it indicated just how out of touch LBJ was with his top advisers.

If the missing 18 minutes of Nixon's tape becomes available, I want it available to everyone in the country. Governments might fall, leaders may be impeached, I don't care.
My right to know the truth is far more important than their right to rule - based on lies.

Sorry, still a little wound up.

Permafrost / Re: This is not good (methane clathrates)
« on: April 21, 2017, 08:50:40 PM »
We experienced an eruption at a local golf course a while back.

I snuck in a few weeks later and found little ongoing excitment. I planned to return in the winter to see if bubble streams were caught in the ice, but it hasn't frozen around here in the last two years. Damn Global Warming!

 The video is short & many will find it disturbing. No gas lines or landfill in the area.

If big eruptions were happening long ago, could my small local event be a precursor of what's to come?


The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: April 21, 2017, 07:59:26 PM »
Popcorn isn't appropriate as I watch the slow suicide of the party I supported my whole life.

The gleeful nattering of one who brags of his lack of fielty to the party is hardly a concern, the myopia of those whose intellect I respect though, that is a heavy blow.

Remember the Whigs and the Tories?
They abandoned their base.


Possibly a different event?

The following video has a 1:48 version of what followed that I haven't viewed in it's entirety.

And yes, the Serbian girl is a jewel. it's unusual for a 70+ couple to form such a strong bond with someone so young, in such a short space of time.
We watch the evening news and see the missiles fly into the night, seldom comprehending the pain they inflict.

Her fathers family was decimated by the Germans, now she and her sister are all that remain of a once large clan. She said that her grandfather never hated the Germans, although they killed his wife and all but one of his children. He apparently was never able to discipline the survivor, or even take a whip to a horse afterwards though.
She's aware that my wife is American, and somehow it doesn't matter.

I'm done venting. Somehow I had to share this.


I think there's a thread here about what sort of economic system might work for distributing goods and services once human labor has no value.

~95,000,000 Americans seem to already have reached the point where their labor is without value.
But you are right this is swinging OT.

At some point TPTB will decide that I've become a hazard behind the wheel, and I'll acquiesce to their demands. Until that time I'll be the aged oldster that appreciates fast flowing air through his whitened locks.  Top down, radio up, and pedal to the metal.
A Zoomer in the best sense.

The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: April 21, 2017, 06:36:06 PM »
After months of harping on Russiagate it may well be time to put that meme to bed.


Hatred is corrosive.

It's easy to trash talk, hard to do things. I reject the trash talk. It is inaccurate and degrades the truth.

The broad characterization of cheering crowds as being the ne plus ultra of evaluation is nonsense.

I'm in a hateful mood this AM

Last night I had dinner with a delightful Serbian girl who just finished her education at Oxford. I mistakenly asked if she had witnessed any of the bombing.

Aged 12 she had followed her sister & her sister's beau, (a conscript), to a romantic peak where they could look down at the nightly bombing of the city in the valley.

The troops had been billeted at a local pub, not the best plan, and were partying with all the local damsels and their "brothers". One of the inebriates hit a switch that energized an ancient radar they had procured, and within minutes a vengeful missile destroyed the pub, and it's inhabitants.

They never found any pieces of her other siblings, and when she returned to the village school it was apparent that all her classmates had been partying at the pub. The school was there, the teacher arrived, no one missing but the students.

Her remaining, now nuclear family, changed religion, no more of those evil icons, all power to the Pope. Then emigrated to Canada.

She studied film making, her IQ assuring a scholarship at Oxford. I wonder what movies she will make or influence.

We're invited to her home next weekend to view portions of her film collection. I'm almost afraid of what I will see.

Hatefully Yours

The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: April 21, 2017, 06:01:32 PM »

You argue that the election is over, and that it doesn't matter anyway.
Then, in your second last paragraph, you retract the very argument you had made.

The election is over, get over it.

Our side lost because they lost the trust of the very people they claimed to represent. Until they do something to regain that trust they will forever be the party that might have won.
Blaming Putin, Comey, or alligators eating large chunks of partisan data, wont solve anything. Calling those who voted for Trump "bigoted deplorables" will not win them back.

Fighting for worker's rights, trying to impose tight regulations on banksters, getting big money out of big government, all might win some trust, but it's damn hard to do when employers,banksters and those with deep pockets hold all your loans and pay for your campaigns.

My bet is that the Democratic Party will learn nothing from this debacle, that they will try the same tactics next cycle, but even harder, and that they will again lose to whatever clown the Republicans run against them.

That is the challenge that history will decide.


If people in general reject personal car ownership.

If self driving cars make car accidents newsworthy.

If electric cars have fewer moving (wearing) parts.

Car companies will build out the market, then most will close their doors.
Warranty work won't keep the assembly lines running. Many large markets are shrinking, and those that are expanding are the least able to afford the latest Wizzer Delux.

Many regions rely on the auto industry - there will be tremendous opposition to this change.


Consequences / Re: Sea Level Rise and Social Cost of Carbon
« on: April 21, 2017, 04:51:54 PM »
A Democratic governor asks a Republican President for funds to help with problems due to climate change.
A Rabbi, a Priest, and a Reverend walk into a bar.

Which will elicit more laughs?


Democrats cheer for Sanders, then boo Perez.

I really think this is out of our hands. If the DNC doesn't clean up it's act we can expect Trump to be around for his full eight years.

Sanders will be 78 when the next presidential election is held, if he's alive he may be drooling. The next time Democrats meet will they Boo Perez, then walk out when his chosen candidate is presented?
You can't abandon everything your base wants, then expect their support because the other guy is even worse.

"Lets get behind Goebbels because that Hitler guy is crazy."


The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: April 21, 2017, 04:21:23 PM » was not the Russians that did what?

Terry....I'll answer the question myself.

The Russians....per the article....weren't the leakers of CIA documents to Wikileaks.  I guess my response is this:

I don't think anyone on this topic string...or elsewhere....EVER said the Russians leaked the CIA documents to Wikileaks.  So?  What was your point?  Was there a point?  Or were you just pointing out a single bit of an ever larger sea of information over the coming months?

Just curious....

But But But

If the evil Ruskies didn't feed the data to Wikileaks, as I'd said was very unlikely many times.

Just how was that Fiendish Putin able to sway the votes of so many swing state voters?

He could have gone through their trash, deduced who would be swayed by news of pork belly futures, then inundated the prospective voter with Fake News about hog culls instigated by Hillary. He could have determined which rural voters had no access to the internet and printed a local newspaper filled with disinformation praising Trump. He might even have neutered potential Hillary supporters by telling them they had won a major prize, and would have to stay home all day on election day in order to collect their winnings.
So many ways he could have fixed the election.
Such a shame that he didn't.


The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: April 21, 2017, 04:00:44 PM »
In the meantime;

The FBI Admits it Was Not the Russians
And launch a Manhunt for the "Insider" who leaked CIA documents to Wikileaks

The very long list of private entities that the CIA shared it's files with might be a good place to begin the search.


YMMV, but I'm not so sure that an article appearing in a CT-laden, pro-Trump, pro-Putin blog that often wanders into straight Soviet-style agitprop is the most reliable place to read the truth about whether Russia meddled in the US election to help Trump.

Just saying...

My Bad
I certainly should have linked to the enclosed link from CBS News

It will be hard to take this Anti-American, Pro-Putin rag seriously, but it's always a good idea to see what Fake News these Commie Agitators have dreamt up now. 8)


The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: April 21, 2017, 02:47:44 PM »
In the meantime;

The FBI Admits it Was Not the Russians
And launch a Manhunt for the "Insider" who leaked CIA documents to Wikileaks

The very long list of private entities that the CIA shared it's files with might be a good place to begin the search.


Policy and solutions / Re: Solar Roadways
« on: April 21, 2017, 10:39:00 AM »

Could the answer have been posted by oren upthread?

I never could quite understand the point of these solar roadways. Surely rooftop solar, parking-top solar, almost anything-top solar, is much cheaper to build as it doesn't need to be strengthened to withstand heavy and dynamic stuff moving over it. And it's far easier to install, and to maintain. And it sees more sun. So, why bother?

If the right of way is important to get space for solar panels, why not provide shade & rain shelter for the roadway by covering the highway with a solar canopy?
Fewer accidents on dry pavement, eliminate glare at sunrise/sunset, cooler pavement = less tire wear & the technology is arguably mature.
Why reinvent the wheel?


Permafrost / Re: This is not good (methane clathrates)
« on: April 19, 2017, 08:07:14 PM »
destabilization of sea methane clathrates is i think also a bigger problem..  while the PETM was caused potentially by seafloor rising, could a similar destabilization be caused by the warming of the oceans...

An early (and still favoured) explanation is that the PETM was triggered by destabilisation of subsea methane hydrate deposits at quite shallow depths within the sediments draping the continental slopes (Dickens, 1999). But what could cause such destabilisation? One possible process is uplift of the sea floor – reducing the weight of water bearing down on the unstable hydrates (Maclennan and Jones, 2006). The key to their idea lies in modern-day Iceland, with its volcanoes, and the hot springs in which field geologists can relax happily in the worst of the weather (Figure 6). The Iceland hotspot already existed 55 million years ago (Figure 7).

This is the possibility I fear for the Newfoundland region. Still rebounding from the ice age & WAW creeping steadily higher and now onto the banks. A tsunami could do major damage.


Arctic Background / Re: Quantifying ice drift
« on: April 19, 2017, 08:00:12 PM »
Wasn't suggesting a whole raft of work for you.
Your link seems to show that in some years the Lincoln sea ice squats down in it's niche, while in others the ice flees across the crest of Greenland and escapes the Arctic through Fram. Believe I was remembering the former to be more a regular occurrence than reality shows.


Consequences / Re: Global Surface Air Temperatures
« on: April 19, 2017, 07:48:32 PM »

Policy and solutions / Re: Biomass
« on: April 19, 2017, 07:43:57 PM »
Wood sounds like a poor substitution, but that's far from any area of expertise I might possess. The only comment I'd like to make is that burning wood for heating is illegal in Las Vegas due to the inversion layer there and the gasses emitted.


The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: April 19, 2017, 07:35:28 PM »

It's a Republican thing.

The Great Communicator thought he'd freed the Jews in Auschwitz, but the closest he got to the front in the war years was Burbank California. The 322nd Rifle Division actually liberated the camp & there's little chance that Reagan had signed on with them since they were part of the Red Army.

Bush the Elder still can't recall where he was when President Kennedy was assassinated, and his son couldn't do any better with "Fool me once" than Lou Costello could trying to figure out "Who was on first".

President Trump is certainly an ignorant fool, but this does little to distinguish him from a long line of Republican predecessors.


Arctic Background / Re: Quantifying ice drift
« on: April 19, 2017, 02:18:18 PM »
Is it my imagination or is a greater fraction of Lincoln Sea Ice caught up in the rush to Fram this year.


Damn good eye Espen, and I haven't thanked you for your daily charts for some time. Solid, and much appreciated work all around!


Sorry for misunderstanding your stance on Putin.
My Bad.

Thanks for the offer of the book, but border customs charges are prohibitive. You express yourself well, and I'm not above asking for clarification.
I signed up for Facebook years ago, and promptly forgot my password. I've never tried to retrieve it.
I doubt that you remember, but I contacted you once years ago on some climate blog asking if you might be a long lost cousin from Hamilton. Your name is not unique.  :)


The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: April 19, 2017, 08:13:25 AM »
Since you have no faith in your own elections, how can you be expected to believe that mine were legit?
Will you now claim that Canada's Prime Minister, or Frances President, or Germany's Chancellor are tainted the first time they stand up to your or America's bullying? This is the very definition of a rogue nation. A state that won't accept the legitimacy of it's own elections can't be trusted to accept the choices that other nations make.
If you succeed, other nations will ridicule America's democracy. The Divine Rule of Kings was eventually laughed off the world stage.


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Good God
Do you really think that our admiration for "The World's Most Respected Politician" makes us "Fellow Travelers"?
Four years ago I probably wouldn't have recognized him on the street. Then Ukraine happened, I got drawn deep into the mess, and my admiration for the man grew on an almost daily basis. Certainly the greatest Statesman of my era.

While I agree that Reagan's presidency proved any minor celeb could be elected, and the Bushes pere et fils reinforced the fact that no great intellect was required, it was actually as Governor of the Once Great State of California that Reagan's image elicited the billing "Sincerity", and my undying enmity.
Watching Reagan's rise undoubtedly inspired Schwarzenegger, The Trumpster, and many yet to come. Once the myth that our leaders needed to be intelligent was rent it could never be restored.

As a Canadian I'm prohibited from sending American politicians anything but my best wishes, rather unfair when the winner inevitably refers to himself as The Leader of the Free World, but wont allow the rest us a vote, or even participation in his election.
The Orange Prankster has killed any goodwill he might have had in Canada with his dairy BS. Canadians don't like growth hormones in milk, and antibiotics are also a no no. If he pursues this, Americans may decide they'd rather serve healthy milk to their babies, then where would the dairy industry be.


When I purchase an autonomous vehicle have I purchased autonomous personalized transportation, or an autonomous personalized robot?

Some of the tasks you list will likely be performed by self-driving vehicles, but probably not the one you own.

I can see a lot of grocery shopping going online.  Getting low on milk?  Click on milk and it's added to your shopping list.  When you really need something you'll press "Order" and your list will be filled and added to the delivery vehicle heading to your neighborhood.  Same with laundry/cleaning pickup and delivery. And takeout food.  Actual times will need to be coordinated so that you meet the delivery vehicle in a timely manner.

Many warehouse clubs already have arrangements to "place your order online and it will be waiting for you at the loading dock when you arrive."  It's a small step from that to:  placing your Costco order, sending your autonomous car to the loading dock, getting confirmation and remotely unlocking the trunk, and having them load your order, whereupon your car returns home with the goodies.  :)
And perhaps a shorter step to telling your car to order a new Wizzer from the lowest cost supplier, then bring it home.

How about a bunch of smart cars that decide amongst themselves that since Steve's RR will be heading to Costco and Bob's Tesla is off to the computer shop, they could pick up John's smart car's computer and folding chair orders and drop them to him once he's done taking Rex to the vet. Later John's car will be taking Bob's Tesla's pooch for a walk anyway.


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