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Policy and solutions / Re: Oil and Gas Issues
« on: July 20, 2017, 08:33:38 AM »
We all see ourselves as realists.


When new renewables exceed new fossil fuel installations, I'll consider that the battle lines have been drawn. When the Keeling curve curves downward, I'll concede that the battle might be won.


Until then color me sad
Terry

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Think of all the drunks being driven home by their cars, the breathalyzer firms being shuttered, and of course the MADD ads we won't be subjected to.


How many municipalities will fail without income from speeding tickets. How many hard working traffic cops will be demoted to foot patrol, kindergarten cops, or mall cops. Municipal Court Justices, bailiffs and jailers, all competing for jobs at the newly automated McDonalds, or being retrained as bicycle mechanics.


The inhumanity of it all.
Terry


Perhaps this is what they had in mind when they put braille symbols on my drive through ATM  ;)







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Permafrost / Re: Arctic Methane Release
« on: July 19, 2017, 06:56:15 PM »
From the linked article

Methane Seeps Out as Arctic Permafrost Starts to Resemble Swiss Cheese
Measurements over Canada's Mackenzie River Basin suggest that thawing permafrost is starting to free greenhouse gases long trapped in oil and gas deposits.
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/18072017/arctic-permafrost-melting-methane-emissions-geologic-sources-study


Thanks for the link.


I had no idea that such large releases of geologic methane were to be found so far north on this continent. S&S had found huge flares in the ESAS and issued warnings for that region, but as far as I know they hadn't determined if they were observing biologic or geologic methane, or a combination of both.


This doesn't bode well for the future.
Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Oil and Gas Issues
« on: July 19, 2017, 09:40:10 AM »
Not his link; just his post.  Why do you ask?


I think it contains important data that belies much of the Green BAU & everything will be more or less OK stuff. Data that had certainly slipped past my radar.


Terry
BTW I corrected my above post to show the link, as I'd intended.

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Terry: You have a "singular" wit!

BudM


Thanks - I think?


Terry

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: July 19, 2017, 01:29:42 AM »
Yes, really.

“Because it’s 2017, we might have Tropical Storm Don and Tropical Storm Hilary at the same time.”

https://grist.org/briefly/because-its-2017-we-might-have-tropical-storm-don-and-tropical-storm-hilary-at-the-same-time/


Hurricane Vlad will put them both to shame.  8)


Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Oil and Gas Issues
« on: July 19, 2017, 01:25:33 AM »
TOR
Have you read Bruce's link from upthread?


httwww.nationalobserver.com/2017/07/13/analysis/these-missing-charts-may-change-way-you-think-about-fossil-fuel-addiction

It's a nice piece of work that uses BP's published figures against them.
Terry


Edit
Fixed size with link

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Policy and solutions / Re: Concrete - CO2 Villain or Solution?
« on: July 19, 2017, 01:20:13 AM »
Here are some interesting results from research on concrete carbonation, showing that more than 50% of CO2 emitted during production of cement is later absorbed during the lifecycle of concrete.

The CO2 balance of concrete in a Life Cycle perspective
by K.O. Kjellsen (Norcem), M. Guimaraes (Aalborg Portland) and Å. Nilsson (Cementa), published by Danish Technological Institute, Denmark

Abstract
The amount of atmospheric carbon dioxide absorbed in Nordic concrete structures over a 100 year period has been calculated. The CO2 uptake, or carbonation, occurs gradually and was calculated for an initial service life period of 70 years followed by a 30 year post-demolition period. The processing of demolished concrete to recycled concrete aggregates increase the CO2 uptake, this was taken into account in the calculation of the total CO2 uptake.

Over 100 years, one year of Nordic concrete construction is calculated to absorb 0.34, 0.22, 0.24 and 0.021 million metric tons of CO2 in Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Iceland, respectively. These are quite notable numbers, and imply that about 0.5% of the total national CO2 emissions will be re-absorbed in concrete in Denmark, Sweden and Norway. The corresponding number for Iceland is about 1%. The calculations show that up to 30% of the total CO2 emission from cement production, or up to 57% of the CO2 emission from the so-called calcination process in cement manufacturing, is re-absorbed when the cement is utilized in concrete construction in the Nordic countries.

https://www.dti.dk/reports-on-co2-uptake-from-the-carbonation-of-concrete/co2-balance/18487,6


So - - - We will save, and have been saving between .005 and .01 of the CO2 emitted in some of the smaller cold countries because of concrete reabsorption. Why doesn't this give me a warm feeling of relief?


Terry

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: July 19, 2017, 01:04:08 AM »

He continued: “Never in my life as a political scientist have I seen two countries, major countries, with a constellation of national interests that are as dissonant, while the two leaders seem to be doing everything possible to make nice and be close to each other.”


Thank god and all the little godetts.


Can you imagine where we'd be if Hillary were our Supreme Military Commandess?


Terry

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Truth has been in short supply for some time, now we're running out of truthiness.


I don't think it's laziness or sloppiness that drives the baldfaced liars, I think it's a demented form of hubris, and that the real message is that "You are so stupid and weak that I can say things that you know are lies, and you won't dare to say anything back."
I think it's a bullying tactic designed to demoralize everyone within ear shot who doesn't respond.


In the Kings Garments meme was the king being tricked by the crooked tailor who sold him his invisible clothing, or were both of them laughing up their invisible sleeves at the abject terror of the prols, who were afraid to mention that their emperor was last seen cavorting naked in the streets.


We don't torture people. Ha
The lives of 500,000 innocent babies were worth it. Ha - Ha
We came, we saw, he died. Ha - Ha - Ha
The Russians ate my coronation. Bwa - Bwa - Bwa
Bernie's wife is a Thief! Ha - Ha


Ha - Ha Hillary & Ta-Ta
Terry


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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: July 18, 2017, 11:15:00 PM »

It is best for the Democrats if they don't find a smoking gun too fast, as slowly beating-up the GOP over the next year, or so, with endless revelations is one of the best ways to maximize the potential gains in the 2018 mid-term elections., and the 2020 presidential contest.
My bolding.


Trump as a one term President and Pence as a one term VP is about as good as we can hope for at this point in time.
If someone from the Bernie camp can win the Democratic Party's nod, they should have an easy win. If Podesta, Pelosi, and Hillary screw with the primaries, they could field another candidate that even Trump can beat.


Terry

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: July 18, 2017, 10:56:55 PM »
Seventeen seconds into the above it's stated that " ...by the Russian Government to peddle information..."
If this is accurate then the Russian government and the Trump campaign were negotiating as prospective buyers and sellers of this information. Since no bargain was struck, there is no way to determine whether the price was at market value, and no campaign finance laws were violated.


Further on at 25 seconds the reporter says that Trump Jr. wss told that "The Russian government wanted to share information..."
Peddling and sharing are not the same thing, I wonder which term is accurate.




Further into the video Greenwald compares this to the so called "Trump Dossier", originally paid for by a Republican, then paid for by the Democrats, and finally aired during the campaign by McCain. While this indicates that none of the parties involved were above using foreign operatives to dig up dirt on their opponent, it may also raise distinctions between truth and falsehood.


AFAIK no one has claimed that what has been presented as Podesta's E-Mails are anything other than Podesta's E-Mails, while Steele's claims that Trump had prostitutes pee on a bed in Moscow because Clinton slept there. Steele hasn't found many believers, even among the FBI.
Is it possible that the veracity of the information gives it a pass, just as it would if the charge was libel or slander? Wouldn't free speech give anyone in America the right to tell the truth about anyone else, no matter where that information was obtained?


We had a very newsworthy Mayor in Toronto who had been arrested in Florida on drug and alcohol charges. Some American apparently furnished His Honor's Loyal Opposition with a news paper clipping of the arrest. The Loyal Opposition brought this up during the campaign, but the idiot still won.
'Twas a dirty mud slinging campaign that my side lost, but I'm grateful to the reporter who noted the alleged perp.'s occupation, and I thought that democracy was served by having the scandal aired in the middle of the campaign.


Was it a case of foreign manipulation of a Canadian election, yes it was.
Would democracy have been better served if the voters of Toronto had been kept in the dark, no.
If Hillary's team had cheated to keep Sanders in check should the electorate be informed, certainly.
Would democracy have been better served if the American voters had been kept in the dark, no.


The 1st Amendment shields anyone who tells the truth. I've never heard of having your 1st amendment rights abrogated because the truth you expose came via a rival entity.


Greenwald also makes note of the "mission creep" that MSM is engaged in, and hopes that Mueller won't succumb to temptation. He was Bush the Lessor's head of the FBI for Christ's sake.


One final note is that Greenwald hinted that Clinton's interactions with Ukrainian politicians might be looked into. That's a Pandora's box that the public doesn't need to see. Hillary's out & the election is over. Had it been brought up during the campaign I would have thought differently, but there's nothing to gain by dragging her through that stinking pile of slime.


Terry

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Science / Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
« on: July 18, 2017, 06:02:29 PM »
Blame Trump, he's guilty as hell, but save some of the rage for the Republicans. My understanding from the above is that the Republican Congress is proposing cuts over and above what Trump has asked for.


Trump is terrible, Republicans are even worse.


Terry

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Science / Re: "climate porn" vs. "not alarmed enough"
« on: July 18, 2017, 05:52:49 PM »
pileus


I'm in full agreement.


Personally I believe that rather than erring on the side of caution lest the public become fearful, we should be erring on the side of calamity in order to scare the populace into action. As you mention, specific regions, especially regions that resonate in peoples minds and that are facing problems near term should be heavily publicized.


Will New Orleans be irrecoverably inundated in the next climate change driven Hurricane. Is repairing HWY 1 near Big Sur worth while if it will be swept away in a few years or a decade?. Should the Thames River Gates be upgraded as London is again threatened by ever rising sea levels. Does Paris need protection from rising oceans? Will Miami become unlivable in 20 years? Should Toronto prepare for stronger, more violent tornadoes? Does Los Angeles need a new power source faced with Lake Mead's constant shrinkage? Will Las Vegas dry up & be blown away? Can we feed ourselves during the coming dust bowl?


Any of these discussions might scare the voters into demanding some kind of action from their politicians. People who attend Mardi Gras, vacation on the Pacific coast, or whose children spend Easter Holiday in Miami should be afraid. Why not help them.


Terry

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Not statistical at all, but 3 auto workers that I met in the elevator were all complaining of the overtime they have been working in the past few months. One works for Toyota, the other two for different outfits that build components for the interiors of many brands of auto.


Not at all what I would have expected.


Our huge frame building factory that built frames for everyone from Jeep to Mercedes closed up and has been bulldozed since 2008. A shame since they built lighter, stronger frames than were otherwise available because of some extremely expensive forming equipment they possessed.


Terry
BTW - I'm in Cambridge Ontario and the factories involved extend outward as far as Ingersoll

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Arctic sea ice / Re: What the Buoys are telling
« on: July 18, 2017, 03:29:08 PM »

The dissolved oxygen plot looks even more extreme. Certainly looks like some big upwelling events happened in the last week or two. Far too deep for bottom contour to affect currents. Could it be volcanism?


Would Ekman Pumping be more likely?
A low pressure system over broken ice causing upwelling &, possibly leading to polynya formation?


Terry

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Arctic sea ice / Re: IJIS
« on: July 18, 2017, 03:13:36 PM »
Terry, you keep using this term. I know you are punning "Amen," but this word has a kind of interesting etymology. It is written with katakana, basically like italics in English, it is use for words that are not originally Japanese.

This fact got me interested, so I dug a bit and found that 'ramen' is what the Japanese did to the Chinese word that we (those who frequent Chinese restaurants, at least) know as Lo Mein...basically a noodle dish.

Just thought you might find it interest. Sorry for the OT.


Thanks so much for the unsolicited lesson in the secular etymology of a holy word held sacred by the PP's of FSM!  >:(


As a Practicing Pastafarian in the church of the FSM I much prefer Ramen to "the word that shall go unspoken".


May His Noodley Appendage Bring You Much Beer and Many Busty Bar Maids
&
May a Thousand Demented Harpists with Hang Nails Claw Relentlessly at the Scrotum of your Enemies


Ramen, Matey  8)

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Science / Re: "climate porn" vs. "not alarmed enough"
« on: July 18, 2017, 05:38:22 AM »
Fear can be a wonderful motivator. Sputnik gave us JFK, a short lived emphasis on STEM education, a winning effort to get to the moon, and possibly the earliest of the building blocks that would eventually be assembled into the internet.
Not a bad fear response to a tech win from our dreaded foe.


It's not fear that's holding us back, it's the energy companies & the politician's they've bought.
Terry


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Policy and solutions / Re: Coal
« on: July 18, 2017, 03:09:31 AM »
With no real understanding of the situation, my thought is that any region with a binary climate, ie. one with monsoonal weather and an annual dry season might experience problems with any of the renewable electric generating sources. Hydro fluctuates between too much water and not enough, solar has long periods when it's shaded by thunder heads, followed by months of clear skies, and monthly wind patterns presumably would jump all over the place.
A very different situation than most of the rest of the world where temperature fluctuations make up the primary annual change.
Hydro might be the least effected, but the very advanced Indus Valley Civilization is generally considered to have fallen victim to the flooding, drying up, and constant relocation of their namesake river, rather than raids from outside.


Terry

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Consequences / Re: Conservative Scientists & its Consequences
« on: July 17, 2017, 08:16:21 PM »
"Abrupt emergence of a large pockmark field in the German Bight, southeastern North Sea"


https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-05536-1

Due to the shallow water depths and energetic conditions at the presumed time of eruption, a large fraction of the released gas must have been emitted to the atmosphere. Conservative estimates amount to 5 kt of methane, equivalent to 67% of the annual release from the entire North Sea.
Thanks for the link.
If we ever again have ice thick enough to carry my weight I intend to find out if my local gas eruption is still actively leaking.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdYum6v48S8


The above 28 second video is indicative of the volume and force of the June 2015 eruption.
I arrived ~2 weeks later and made what observations I could, with the intention of returning in winter to see if methane bubbles were being trapped in the ice. Unfortunately the last two winters have been too warm to conduct my little experiment.


The area near the watercourse that exploded has a minimum of 7 meters of hard packed clay with no visible sand. There are holes smaller than a golf ball, but large enough to insert a thumb into that must extend through the clay matrix & down to wherever the gas had/has accumulated.


There are no gas lines nor municipal dump sites anywhere near the golf course, although N. America's first commercial oil patch is some tens of miles south & a large salt mine is located some tens of miles north.


If we ever again get some solid ice I still plan to attack it with ice pick and lighter to find out if a seep is still active.


Terry
Ouch!
Just noticed what thread I'm on.
My bad.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: IJIS
« on: July 17, 2017, 07:13:55 AM »
Oh lighten up! Muslims come in all different races and colours.
...

The topic is IJIS!
I thought it was ISIS?? Is IJIS a Japanese offshoot?  :o
Ramen !!

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Science / Re: "climate porn" vs. "not alarmed enough"
« on: July 17, 2017, 07:05:46 AM »

But please, everybody, please remember there really is a difference in the way the two parties approach this stuff and the difference really matters.


Ramen !!
Terry

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: July 17, 2017, 06:58:35 AM »
Any idea how many democrats and how many republicans they polled?


6 months in, a record low for Trump, with troubles from Russia to health care (POLL)
"Partisan divisions are 35-23-35 percent, Democrats-Republicans-independents."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/months-record-low-trump-troubles-russia-health-care/story?id=48639490



That seems a strange division, particularly so soon after an election in which democrats won so few seats at so many levels of government.


Did the polls that this poll is being compared to also have ~5 democrats for every 3 republicans, or were those polls actually polling different demographics, making them incomparable?

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: July 17, 2017, 06:17:07 AM »
Any idea how many democrats and how many republicans they polled?

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Science / Re: "climate porn" vs. "not alarmed enough"
« on: July 16, 2017, 11:59:18 PM »
jai


Good missive, but to be fair to Dr. Mann I believe it was I, not he, that suggested that he may be acting as a referee. We can't accuse him of hubris for something I wrote.


Terry

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The 2012 tests were a reaction to Obama's proposed laws to clean up the air. The Edmonds article further claims that running ambient air through a Ford pick-up's engine will remove hydrocarbons, and clean the air.
Simply not credible. I'd write more but very time I try to copy a paragraph my size function goes crazy. >:(
Terry

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Science / Re: "climate porn" vs. "not alarmed enough"
« on: July 15, 2017, 11:46:38 PM »
Mocking Mann and his contributions to our understanding of climate change is just wrong. I understand his motivation for attacking the NYMag's,(got it right this time), article and choose to disagree with him on this issue.
Dr. Mann believes that we must stay above the fray and always ensure that every T is crossed and every period is in place. I believe that lighting a fire in the cooling embers of the climate change battle is of primary importance. If I'd experienced what Dr. Mann has experienced since his famous hockey stick graphic rose from obscurity, I'd probably agree with him, but my life experiences were and are very different.
No one has attacked my life, my livelihood, my work, my legacy, claiming I didn't cross all of my T's, or dot all of my I's. Dr. Mann has faced all of this and more.


I think it's important at this time to be opening a new Overton Window. When I first came across the term I thought it a disgusting way to win an argument. I felt it was a disingenuous, deceitful ploy that others would use, not I, nor mine.
Then we came to the point where we'd basically won the AGW battle, but had exhausted ourselves in the effort. We've won, I'm tired, let's rest up for the next battle.
Then Wallace-Wells pops up saying we're all going to die!
Wow!


The battle's on again, except this time the battle isn't over the reality of AGW, the battle is now over whether AGW will be killing our children or our grandchildren. This is a brand new window to discuss global warming, climate change, or whatever we chose to call the fact that we're cooking ourselves.
If all of the T's had been crossed, and had all the I's been dotted, I'm not sure we'd have as much coverage. There is a fight going on, and no one can turn away from watching a fight. We're not fighting about whether AGW is real, this time we're fighting about the casualty rate, and how soon the body bags will swamp the airports.
I think Dr. Mann's correct in trying to keep the opponents fighting fair. Like the referee at a boxing match. I think I'm correct in trying to bring the rubes into the arena. Selling the conflict, beating the drum, getting everyone doing research so that they to can join the fray.


If it wasn't so damn important it would be fun.
Terry

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Science / Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
« on: July 15, 2017, 10:39:49 PM »
Trump aims to use UN climate fund for coal plants

The Trump administration is angling to use a United Nations climate change adaptation fund to pay for the construction of coal plants instead, Bloomberg News reports.

An official told Bloomberg that the White House is pushing to use the Green Climate Fund, which the U.S. has contributed $1 billion to, for more "clean coal" power plants around the world.

The Green Climate Fund is a U.N. effort designed to send contributions from rich countries to developing nations who are bracing for the worst impact of climate change.

Some of the programs the GCF has funded include hydropower projects in the Solomon Islands and Tajikistan and a renewable energy push in Egypt. A Trump official told Bloomberg the U.S. would push to spend future money on “clean coal” and other power plants that aim to produce fewer carbon emissions than existing power facilities.

One of President Trump’s main complaints about the Paris climate agreement was the $3 billion pledge the Trump administration made to the GCF. Former President Barack Obama was able to contribute $1 billion before he left office earlier this year, and Trump has said the U.S. will stop future payments to the fund.

But the U.S. still has a seat on the GCF’s board by virtue of its previous contributions. The GCF funds projects on a consensus basis, making it more difficult for the U.S. to push a coal project through without buy-in from other nations.
I'm guessing the bolded should read Obama administration?


Needing a consensus WRT spending GCF's funds probably means that no money will be spent until Trump gets a coal project through. They might have been better of without Obama's well meaning, but poisonous billion dollar gift.


Terry

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U.S.:  Long before the combustion engine, the hybrid car is facing obsolescence
Hybrid cars are becoming the VCR/DVD-combo players of the automotive world.

Just 2% of US auto sales last year were of cars with both electric motors and internal combustion engines, according to a report published this month by New York-based consulting firm AlixPartners. That’s down from a peak of 3.1% in 2013.

So what’s behind the drop in demand? Technology. Hydraulic fracturing (aka fracking), a drilling method that led to a boom in US oil- and natural-gas production, has driven down the cost of gasoline. Prices at the pump are currently just $2.40 a gallon, according to the US Energy Information Administration, a government statistics agency, a decline of nearly 35% since 2013. Cheap gas has also rekindled Americans’ love of trucks and SUVs.

Meanwhile hybrids, marketed in part as a way for price-conscious consumers to curtail gasoline costs, no longer have as compelling a value proposition.

At the same time, environmentally conscious consumers have more and cheaper options than ever for owning a fully electric car, thanks to improved battery technology that makes it possible to drive EVs over longer distances. (The fracking boom also drove down natural gas prices, which makes electricity cheaper too.)
...
https://qz.com/1029464/what-percent-of-us-car-sales-are-hybrids/
It's strange to me that plugin hybrid garners such a small share of the market. In trying to maintain a one car family a plugin hybrid would be my preference at this stage of the buildout of charging stations. While I'm sure I could make it across country on electricity, a gasoline option would certainly ease my mind when heading beyond familiar regions.
Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Oil and Gas Issues
« on: July 15, 2017, 10:07:39 PM »
Here is an article I find more disturbing than the Wallace-Wells piece. It shows there hasn't been a leveling of oil or gas use there has been a continued increase. It also shows the downturn in coal may be far smaller than that reported because, as we have discussed here on the ASIF , Chine has been under reporting.

http://www.nationalobserver.com/2017/07/13/analysis/these-missing-charts-may-change-way-you-think-about-fossil-fuel-addiction


Since we sometimes ;) fault clean energy companies for being overly optimistic about the rise of renewables, I think it is appropriate to be a little skeptical of fossil fuel data from BP.  If they were to report that FF use was declining significantly, it could set off a global financial oil panic. 

We should remember that these charts were not compiled by BP, but by a researcher who did use BP's figures, but put them together in a way that BP had not intended. I'm arguing that the results we see are not what BP was promoting. It's still certainly possible of course that the BP data used was fudged for some other purpose, but going down that rabbit hole leads to an extremely complex maze.
Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Batteries: Today's Energy Solution
« on: July 15, 2017, 09:48:12 PM »
As long as their loyalty is to their sponsors there is little we can do. Even getting rid of the bums during primaries may be impossible if the DNC suddenly pulls out super delegates to make the final selection.
Where is a liberal, or a progressive, or anyone concerned with climate change to turn?


Terry
Sorry about the OT, but sometimes the politics becomes such an important part of the story that it has to be discussed.

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: July 15, 2017, 09:32:24 PM »

I wonder if a similar law exists in Canada. Our Liberal Parties, both on the Provincial and Federal level, most certainly received software and updates from the American Democratic party. My understanding is that our Conservative parties received comparable software, but I didn't personally see or use the conservative version.


Terry





The US Democratic Party doesn't own the software platforms it uses. It contracts with NGP VAN, Blue State Digital, and other companies that have developed the software. Those companies also contract with many other entities, and it's possible Canadian parties were among their clients.



The local Liberal candidates were informed that the software they was using was gifted by the Democratic Party. It's been a fair time now & I don't personally recall any logos or other markings that might have indicated who developed, or had purchased the product. Frankly I wasn't interested.
It was a huge database management suite, far superior to any of the packages that I'd had a hand in developing for business use in the States.


I believe the Republican's disseminate their intellectual property through the International Democrat Union, an entity set up by Reagan and Thatcher back in the 80's that few right wingers even acknowledge the existence of. Wikipedia still has it's uses and names all the political parties world wide that are involved with the IDU.


Terry

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: July 15, 2017, 09:12:37 PM »
Here are some insights from Naomi Klein about what you can expect to come from Team Trump (i.e.: increased suppression of democracy):

“Naomi Klein: The Worst Is Yet to Come with Trump, So We Must Be Ready for Shock Politics”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w44lApffH30


Naomi is among an ever shrinking group of intellectuals who have not sold out in order to sell more books. She alienated many of her race when she called for boycotts of apartheid Israel. She's alienating many in America with support for boycotting Anti Paris Accord America. She found thinking and writing more important than finishing her degree. Along with Gladwell, she brings a uniquely Canadian voice to the table when New York's intellectuals are queried.


Many other fine interviews accompany the linked one, and if time is pressing the first 9 minutes contain most of the pertinent points that she makes in a separated video.


Terry

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: July 15, 2017, 07:19:52 PM »
Now "the grind" begins.  Even though Trump and KellyAnne will continue to deny and make up stories of innocence....which will eventually turn into stories of "it really doesn't matter", and a storyline of "the economy is doing so well people don't care what we did with the Russians"....the grind of SLOWLY pulling his approval ratings lower will continue.

Personally, I think that a slow sustained 'grind' until 2018 is the best prescription that the Democrats can hope for to increase their odds of re-capturing Congress in the mid-term elections.


I'm in agreement. Remember to keep the Republicans in the headlights, that's who you're running against in 2018. Bubba doesn't care about Russia, he wants the factory to start calling back those they laid off.


Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Nuclear Power
« on: July 15, 2017, 07:08:06 PM »
I was thinking specifically of the costs to the environment. Monetary costs I believe can be adjusted when carbon taxes are applied. A coal, or even gas plant might be viable with no carbon tax, but extremely expensive to operate otherwise, nuclear might be expensive with no carbon tax. but very reasonable should carbon taxes be applied.


Building the facility released a lot of GHG, a certain amount will be released when decommissioning it, if refurbishing can be done while releasing less than a new build would, and this eliminates one of the decommissioning cycles, wouldn't this be the ecologically correct path?
I'm not advocating new nuclear, just exploring the possibility of keeping those already built on line.


Terry

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Northwest Passage thread
« on: July 15, 2017, 05:17:03 AM »
Sept 2 1969
McClure Strait


When in the McClure strait however, ice 15' to 20' high and sometimes as deep as 100 feet proved too much for the Manhattan.
[/size]
[/size]S.S.Manhattan and the North West Passage
[/size]http://sunshiporg.homestead.com/manhattan.html

[/size]The times they are a-changing
[/size]Terry





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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: July 15, 2017, 04:31:44 AM »
I have to ask how this compares to a candidate hiring a foreign ex intelligence officer specifically to dig up dirt on an opposing candidate, paying him for his labors & disseminating his report prior to the election?
I refer of course to ex MI5 agent Steele.


Terry

US election law states that a *campaign* cannot solicit, accept, or receive a *contribution* from a foreign national, whehter cash or "in-kind" contribution, which is anything of value.
Purchasing goods or services from foreign nationals is perfectly fine, at fair market value.


Interesting. Would I be correct in assuming that it would then be legal to examine a product prior to negotiating a purchase? How about accepting a free demonstration of a service being offered for sale? Both of the above might constitute part of a bartering process to determine the fair market value of such goods or services, which might,or might not result in a sale.


I wonder if a similar law exists in Canada. Our Liberal Parties, both on the Provincial and Federal level, most certainly received software and updates from the American Democratic party. My understanding is that our Conservative parties received comparable software, but I didn't personally see or use the conservative version.


One final question, since you seem to be an authority on the subject.
Is there a reciprocal law in place that makes it illegal for an American national to "*campaign* , solicit, accept, or donate a *contribution* to a foreign campaign? I'm well aware of numerous instances where Americans have run campaigns in many foreign arenas, and assume they were well paid for their efforts. If someone were being paid by say The Voice of America, to sway a foreign electorate in a certain direction, would he, or the beneficiary of his influence be guilty? how about the American beneficiary of say a Canadian broadcast that warned the American electorate against a particular American candidate?, possibly by exposing his opponent's foibles?

Very tangled webs.
Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Coal
« on: July 15, 2017, 03:37:35 AM »
Sigm


Any idea whether the new jobs pay as well as coal mining?


Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Batteries: Today's Energy Solution
« on: July 15, 2017, 03:32:19 AM »
I hate polluting this thread with politics, but someone needs to find out if Chris Holden, the assemblyman who is holding the bill, has been paid by energy concerns.
This smells like the Corporate California Democrats stand on single payer healthcare. When a politician does something that his constituents are against, I assume it's for personal gain.


Hope I'm Wrong
Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Oil and Gas Issues
« on: July 15, 2017, 02:27:34 AM »
Jeeze Bruce


If you're link can be taken at face value, all the happy, "everything just keeps getting better everyday, in every way" messages need to be stood on their heads.
The claims that renewables are making increasing progress apparently need to read that new renewables lag new fossil fuel installations.
That the G20 and the development banks are spending and lending more for fossil fuel installations than for all other's combined is hard to spin into a hopeful message. The charts he's produced showing both gas and oil to be racing ahead of hydro, wind, solar and biomass - at increasing rates - indicate that things aren't just getting worse, they're getting worse at a rapidly increasing rate.


I'd love to read Bob Wallace's take on this. Bob?


Terrified
Terry


PS The above is in reply to Bruce Steele's message just upstream and his link to:


http://www.nationalobserver.com/2017/07/13/analysis/these-missing-charts-may-change-way-you-think-about-fossil-fuel-addiction

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It looks like American political leaders are wearing rose-colored glasses w.r.t. their accountability to voters on climate change

"Study: On climate change and elsewhere, politicians more conservative than citizens"

https://www.skepticalscience.com/politicians-more-conservative-than-citizens.html

Extract: "Academics have identified a skew in American politics, in which policies that are implemented are much more conservative than average Americans prefer. A new paper  by David Broockman at Stanford University and Christopher Skovron from the University of Michigan suggests a cause for this disparity: American politicians perceive their constituents’ positions as more conservative than they are in actuality on a wide range of issues; for example, Republican politicians tend to overestimate support for their conservative health care views by a whopping 20 percentage points. As Broockman and his colleague Christopher Warshaw of MIT put it in an article for the New York Times: “Research shows that politicians are surprisingly poor at estimating public opinion in their districts and state, Republicans in particular.” This in turn appears to be caused by greater political engagement among conservative constituents, who contact their members of Congress more frequently than liberal voters."


A clarion call to man our pens?
Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Nuclear Power
« on: July 14, 2017, 07:33:18 PM »
I know nothing of the subject, but wonder what the carbon costs of closing down & cleaning up a nuclear plant are, in comparison to the carbon cost of refurbishing one?


Terry

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New sequel: The Texas Silent Chainsaw Massacre.

Which leads to musing: if Hollywood had its stars using electric everything, I bet that would speed up adoption. I've got links to the 3D animation industry but more on the tech side -- not so much the art side. Live action is where it's at though; how do we get Hollywood on that?


A very good suggestion. I have some contact with Canadian TV and film staff. While I doubt that these people have the necessary influence, they might be able to start the needed buzz.


Terry

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: July 14, 2017, 07:13:56 PM »
I have to ask how this compares to a candidate hiring a foreign ex intelligence officer specifically to dig up dirt on an opposing candidate, paying him for his labors & disseminating his report prior to the election?
I refer of course to ex MI5 agent Steele.


Terry

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: July 13, 2017, 09:35:20 PM »
As reported by the Palmer Report this afternoon...our little Russia lawyer friend who met with Donnie Jr, Paul, and Jarred.....met with at least one other politician on that trip.

This is what I have thought all along:  Russia has figured out what lobbyists and big business have known for a long time....politicians can be bought...especially Republican politicians.  And that is why RussiaGate will turn out to be so broad and so deep.

Why spend all that money on planes and ships.....when Republican politicians are so easily bought?  You can buy a change in policy....especially when you have people with no ethics and eager to be bought like Trump, Cruz, Collins, Chaffetz, Nunez, Guilliani, Pence, Sessions, etc (there are more).  These are folks that can be easily compromised......and the FBI will prove it IF they can finish their investigation.

Tick.....tick.....tick....tick.



This couldn't be the same Russian lawyer that Loretta Lynch let into the country under "extraordinary circumstances", after her entry had been denied?


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-12/why-did-loretta-lynch-grant-trump-jrs-russian-lawyer-special-visa-enter-america


Terry

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Thanks for the reply pileus.
I remember Hillary's attempt at single payer, and it's blockage at the hands of Republicans & some Corporate Democrats. Sad the number of lives wasted, the number of productive people who lost their ability to produce, and the huge numbers of those left to grieve.
I don't blame the democratic base for any of this. It was/is the fault of the leadership, and of course the Republican leadership, they are the ones on the payroll of the health insurance companies.
I can't say I'm in favor of incrementalism, but I do accept it as a realistic position, hence my recommendation that we begin our push by ousting Corporate Democrats in Hawaii, and putting single payer in place there, then watching it spread. California, as you noted, is probably a bridge too far re. healthcare for the coming election cycle.
Plenty of other reasons to start cleaning up the party in California and elsewhere, but healthcare will be a tough nut to crack & California might be too big a prize to begin with.


I'm passionate about healthcare because of the number of friends who died, or are crippled because of the HMO services they received. I'm aware that HMO's were a Republican creation, but well paid Democratic Leaders joined the Republican chorus praising them. It wasn't the demoralized doctors or the ESL nurses that killed and crippled my friends, it was the bean counters who saw every clinic and hospital as a potential profit center.
All of my friends had health insurance, most had been quite well off before they got sick, access to an HMO isn't access to quality health care.


Terry

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Science / Re: "climate porn" vs. "not alarmed enough"
« on: July 13, 2017, 01:02:53 PM »
Jai


Thanks for the detailed response to the article, I couldn't even get the name of the publication right.


Contritely
Terry

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: July 12, 2017, 10:01:14 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/brazil-president-lula-convicted-corruption

Lula today; Trump tomorrow?


Could well be, I think the same forces are at work.
Terry

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: July 12, 2017, 09:59:31 PM »
Bill's fears mirror my own. The 25 years of far right governance he mentions is but a beginning. 25 years of gerrymandering, 25 years of Supreme court appointees, 25 years of global intervention, 25 years of ignoring international laws and conventions.


If we can't get Trump and the Republicans out in 2020, what is plan B?


I don't think Pileus's fighting in the streets will work.
I don't think we'd surrender to an outside force without resorting to nukes.
I don't think being shamed on the world stage has worked.
I don't think international courts will offer relief.


Again, what is plan B?


Terry

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: July 12, 2017, 09:27:12 PM »
Are you saying that any time a President is elected it's OK to start up a vast, open ended investigation against him and his family? Can you imagine where the Bushes would be if an overzealous prosecutor began digging into the source of the family's wealth? From our side of the aisle Joe Kennedy might have faced embarrassing questions re. bootlegging, and can you imagine Jack being questioned about marital fidelity during his white house years?


If Trump and Putin conspired to steal the election, have fun trying to prove it. Whether he was contemplating building a tower in Moscow, Beijing or Baghdad just isn't relative. Havana might have been a problem, but that's a different kettle of fish.
When Pelosi advised her followers to lighten up on Russiagate because Trump might "self-impeach", that was my verification that Russiagate was nothing but a ruse to start an investigation, and that the investigation would be nothing more or less than a witch hunt.


Just as Ken Starr should have been reigned in when the Whitewater Scandal was disproven, so Mueller should be forced to restrict his investigation to the original charges.


I prefer government by elected officials to government by appointed prosecutor. - and I remember that Clinton was the first Democrat to win back to back presidencies since FDR


Trump is a blight on the country. So were both the Bushes.
Terry

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