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The rest / Re: Ukraine, Nazis and western support
« on: September 16, 2017, 04:45:24 PM »
Sidd, ...' and even a BUK that was used to shoot down a civilian airplane.'



Jeez Rob!  Show us just one single picture of the contrail of an ascending missile on that day.  Among all the video that was shot that hazy afternoon there must be dozens you can find for us.  Dozens.  All you have to do is show us one image (a genuine image, of course) and an account that says they saw the contrail rising in the right direction at the right time.  We're an evidence based discussion group.  Show us the evidence. 

For reference, this is what you are looking for...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5V0Y0glqz0


First attached image is a summary of the first Dutch examination, documented here: https://www.onderzoeksraad.nl/uploads/phase-docs/1006/debcd724fe7breport-mh17-crash.pdf
Read §10.2 #6-8 page 255 for the evidence about the rocket.

Later they found a satellite image of the BUK who likely fired the rocket. 2nd attached image.

Images from http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/mh17-the-satellite-images-russia-doesnt-want-us-to-see/news-story/8c03f8e87971d36f70b5402ffbda16ff May 17, 2016

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P.S.: Caveat for "Russophiles :)": "Putin tells complete nonsense in Stone interview about MH17" http://www.whathappenedtoflightmh17.com/another-low-in-russian-misinformation-president-putin-tells-complete-nonsense-in-stone-interview-about-mh17/

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The rest / Re: Ukraine, Nazis and western support
« on: September 16, 2017, 04:08:58 PM »
Nazis are everywhere where there are young stupid violent males.

Here's a recent example from Germany:
http://www.dw.com/en/germany-promises-army-reforms-after-neo-nazi-terror-plot/a-38789648

This wasn't some low rank freshling, but an officer known by his peers for being Nazi. He had a swastika carved in his rifle.

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 16, 2017, 12:44:23 AM »
Florida governor remains unsure about climate change after Hurricane Irma
...
“Clearly our environment changes all the time, and whether that’s cycles we’re going through or whether that’s man-made, I wouldn’t be able to tell you which one it is,” Scott said after twice touring the storm-ravaged Florida Keys this week.
...

http://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2017/09/14/florida-governor-remains-unsure-about-climate-change-after-hurricane-irma-114498

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: September 14, 2017, 01:35:01 PM »
No. It's the MSM grasping at straws. NYT claims it is "Russian hackers", "Russian-controlled ...", "Russian information attack", "Russian efforts", etc. etc. , without offering one single piece of evidence that it is the state "Russia" behind this
Who is grasping straws?
I guess those FB ads bought by a Russian troll farm are quite good evidence: Money is followable.


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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: September 14, 2017, 03:47:00 AM »
Russian iWar on the West

For ... that which must not, cannot be.


Exclusive: Russia Used Facebook Events to Organize Anti-Immigrant Rallies on U.S. Soil
Pushing fake news was just one component of the Russian campaign to shape American minds. Part two: organizing anti-immigrant events echoing themes from the pro-Trump press.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive-russia-used-facebook-events-to-organize-anti-immigrant-rallies-on-us-soil

So, Fakebook has been and still is trying hard to hide this smoking gun everybody had indirectly been asking for ("There is no proof! ... no proof!")

No wonder. It is Facebook's disgrace. And of a lot of its users. That's why I quoted this poem again.

But I wonder why there isn't almost any fuss in the media and commentariat about it. The only one who seems to care seems Rachel Maddow (who else, she wants nuclear war with Russia...).

And I wonder why nobody has discovered these fake demonstration organizers already last year! (Heck, I should have cared more, as I smelled the shit, and should have faked an American Fakebook user to lure the Russian trolls etc.)
Compared to the amount of Russian fake Fakebook accounts etc. discovered during the French election, what has surfaced in the U.S. until now is just trifle. I don't believe this.

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: September 13, 2017, 04:51:25 AM »
Russian iWar on the West

For ... that which must not, cannot be.


Exclusive: Russia Used Facebook Events to Organize Anti-Immigrant Rallies on U.S. Soil
Pushing fake news was just one component of the Russian campaign to shape American minds. Part two: organizing anti-immigrant events echoing themes from the pro-Trump press.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive-russia-used-facebook-events-to-organize-anti-immigrant-rallies-on-us-soil

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 12, 2017, 07:41:38 PM »
John, there is no hope whatsoever for serious climate reason since at least 2009. Katrina was 2005...

Example from Louisiana:
"The small Louisiana town of Cameron could be the first in the US to be fully submerged by rising sea levels – and yet locals, 90% of whom voted for Trump, still aren’t convinced about climate change" https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/18/louisiana-climate-change-skeptics-donald-trump-support

"As the seas around them rise, fishermen deny climate change" http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/20/us/louisiana-climate-change-skeptics/index.html



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The rest / Re: Ukraine, Nazis and western support
« on: September 12, 2017, 06:06:07 PM »
I'd suggest "Ukraine, Nazis and their support". Nazis are everywhere where there are young stupid violent males. It's a style of expression for many, just like Islamist fundamentalism or Antifa extremism. The blog you quoted also shows evidence of genuine Ukrainian Nazis in the Azov brigade.
http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.de/2014/11/nazis-in-azov-battalion.html

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 12, 2017, 05:54:37 PM »
The solution to climate change is political. Lets have a string of ridiculously bad years over the next decade so that we can get down to business.
Alas. And alas it's not the bad disasters in themselves that might convince people. What is needed is a critical mass of economically ruined lifes.  Irma and Harvey could be very "helpful" here:

It is no serious problem for the rich folk to get a new car and a new American cardboard house --. But how are those living from paycheck to paycheck going to get up on their feet again? Suddenly there's a million more "welfare queens" down at rock bottom. And a lot of them are white. That could be the motivation for demanding serious change.

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The rest / Re: Ukraine, Nazis and western support
« on: September 12, 2017, 12:17:29 AM »
Here's the first image as attachment:

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 12, 2017, 12:01:53 AM »
Looks like Florida wasn't hit as bad as expected. Cuba saved Florida the worst, it seems, as it slowed down Irma from 5 to 4.

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The rest / Re: Ukraine, Nazis and western support
« on: September 10, 2017, 07:14:30 AM »
Links, please, Terry. Quick clicks we want. :)

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 10, 2017, 06:06:43 AM »
Man in Key West -- who are you and why are you still there? Get out!
Southern-most point live webcam:  https://t.co/LxFqt81wjt
https://twitter.com/angelafritz/status/906633744559362052

The number of people on live cameras on Key West is astounding. Please realize that your actual life is in danger.
https://twitter.com/TTrogdon/status/906633628599422978

Hurricane #Irma reminding this guy in Key West he should have evacuated. #FirstAlertWX
https://twitter.com/wxgarrett/status/906619121823047680
Video at the link.

Edit:
That whole buoy will probably be underwater tomorrow morning
https://twitter.com/ericfisher/status/906632582896537600
Lots of suicidals and stupid around there! MSNBC had some live coverage of a fire dept's last check of the floodplain.
Looks like were going to see scenes like after Katrina, dead corpses floating in the waters...
This time not just fat (american malnourished) blacks, but also gymmed white male "tough guys"... (if the gators and the debris haven't shred them)   :o  :-[ :-X

Heck, and Rush Limbaugh seems to have escaped it!

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 10, 2017, 05:21:41 AM »


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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 10, 2017, 04:36:34 AM »
Jose at the East Coast... Yeah, that place still missing in this summer's bouquet of all-American natural disasters. Bring it on. Lets see what the Trumplins have to say. And there seem to be actually potent Dems in DC who learned how to play debt ceiling pork. What a great year at this circus!  8)

More popcorn, and a barf bag or two...

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 10, 2017, 12:53:55 AM »

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 10, 2017, 12:50:36 AM »
Man in Key West -- who are you and why are you still there? Get out!
Southern-most point live webcam:  https://t.co/LxFqt81wjt
https://twitter.com/angelafritz/status/906633744559362052

The number of people on live cameras on Key West is astounding. Please realize that your actual life is in danger.
https://twitter.com/TTrogdon/status/906633628599422978

Hurricane #Irma reminding this guy in Key West he should have evacuated. #FirstAlertWX
https://twitter.com/wxgarrett/status/906619121823047680
Video at the link.

Edit:
That whole buoy will probably be underwater tomorrow morning
https://twitter.com/ericfisher/status/906632582896537600
Lots of suicidals and stupid around there! MSNBC had some live coverage of a fire dept's last check of the floodplain.
Looks like were going to see scenes like after Katrina, dead corpses floating in the waters...

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: September 09, 2017, 11:05:38 PM »
Ha! The Daily Caller. Ever checked their climate reporting? Next: Breitbart?

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-caller/
quoth
The Daily Caller [...] was founded by Tucker Carlson, a libertarian conservative political pundit, and Neil Patel, former adviser to former Vice President Dick Cheney.  The Daily Caller produces sensational headlines and has a right wing bias in reporting and has made false claims according to Snopes and Politifact. (7/19/2016) Updated (4/21/2017)

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 09, 2017, 08:59:45 PM »
Tampa...

Great WaPo article from July 28, 2017:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/health/environment/tampa-bay-climate-change/
The area is due for a major hurricane, and it is not prepared. If a big one scores a direct hit, the damage would likely surpass Katrina.

Interview with author Darryl Fears:
https://www.marketplace.org/2017/09/06/economy/hurricane-irma-could-cause-serious-damage-tampa-bay
quoth
Ryssdal: Has to be said though, that for all the building that's happening, and all the the real estate deals that are happening in that area, there are some people trying to make folks pay attention.

Fears: Oh there are. And they are creating some awareness there and I think that they're going to get on the ball with this. But it takes a lot to ramp up resilience to climate change. It takes a great deal of work, and they're just not there yet.

Ryssdal: For all the work that is being done you point out and in fact you end the piece with this little tidbit, the real estate market in Tampa-St. Pete: booming.

Fears: It is hot, especially near the water and what people do in these areas near the coast, in most areas they require you if you build a new property to at least build three feet higher than the property that was there. And in this case you have rich people just buying middle-class people's homes, destroying them, and sticking a McMansion on the lot.

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Hear Rick Scott's (R) political death knell in the distance? Yes, Mr. Pruitt (R-EPA), prolly not the time to talk about Holocene climate breakdown with you...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/09/07/at-a-moment-climate-change-is-hard-to-ignore-the-epa-is-being-pointed-elsewhere/

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 09, 2017, 08:15:59 PM »
Oh heck, maybe I shouldn't have said/thought that  :'(
Seeing live pictures from near Fort Myers on MSNBC. A huuuuge crowd of folks outside a stadium, seeking shelter. Eerily reminds me of New Orleans...

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 09, 2017, 08:00:18 PM »
Q: Most vulnerable city in U.S., 7th vulnerable globally, according to a recent World Bank study?
A: Tampa, FL
 ???
...and it seems they also got quite a real estate boom - at sea level. :o
Sorry for not being sorry, FL sooo deserves getting hit right there.

We might now be witnessing the first instance where Klimakatastrophe (as we say in German since the 1980ies) leads to financial catastrophe...

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The rest / Re: Ukraine, Nazis and western support
« on: September 09, 2017, 07:39:50 PM »
Oh. And Terry, you were talking about nazis (or right wing extremists) in governments of other nations :
Look at this list :
http://anton-shekhovtsov.blogspot.com/2014/03/pro-russian-extremists-observe.html
Incidentally that is a list of "international observers" that Putin invited for the (illegal) Crimea "referendum".
...
Yeah.
Russia is supporting right-wing/Nazi movements all over Europe. E.g. LePen in France (luckily the French are some of the least dumbest folk in Europe).

So, I'm smelling projection. Like, the Trumpeteers' anti-Hillary propaganda. (Now, who is going to get locked up? Who is the swamp in DC? Etc etc... Hahaha, and who the f%$§ is criminally neglecting basic email security?)

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The rest / Re: Ukraine, Nazis and western support
« on: September 07, 2017, 08:02:09 PM »
I don't understand why you wrote the above?
Because I think Ukrainian Nazis are overhyped compared to e.g. Hungaria, Germany and yes even U.S.A. In east Germany there are practically no-go areas where I would not buy cheap rural property. (Some hippie friends had very bad experiences there, e.g. being shot at, and left their old farm again.)

I haven't yet figured the role of Russian propaganda here...

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 07, 2017, 06:34:15 PM »
It might not only bankrupt Trump. It might pop the Miami housing bubble. This hurricane season has already impacted politics (Trump's recent artful deal with Pelosi and Schumer). Whatabout a financial catastrophe?

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 07, 2017, 06:18:20 PM »
Yeah everyone, be careful out there and don't underestimate the threat.
In the meantime here's a good laugh;

Check out this beautiful luxury resort in St. Maarten on sale at Sotheby's for a mere 17 million US dollars.
You can rent it for 20,000 bucks a night.
Owner: Donald Trump
http://www.sothebysrealty.com/eng/sales/detail/180-l-3989-qz6f4w/chateau-des-palmiers-terres-basses-mi-97150

Next up; Mar a Lago
Oh sweet irony.....

Oh yeah! And this might bankrupt Trump, if he isn't already.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/post-nation/wp/2017/09/06/hurricane-irma-just-slammed-into-trumps-caribbean-estate-and-is-headed-toward-his-florida-properties/
Among the structures badly damaged were a group of government buildings on the island. "We know that the four most solid buildings on the island have been destroyed, which means that more rustic structures have probably been completely or partially destroyed," French Interior Minister Gerard Collomb told AFP.



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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 07, 2017, 05:50:34 PM »
So it will hit during high tide?

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The rest / Re: Ukraine, Nazis and western support
« on: September 07, 2017, 04:54:55 PM »
The Ukrainian nationalists remind me of U.S. Tea Party folks and Trump's hardcore supporters, some of which are seriously Nazi, but most are just dumb rednecks. The difference in Ukraine is that they have a serious enemy, Russia, and insist in an independent Ukrainian nation.


UCCA marched in Chicago under the banners of OUN (Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists) and UPA (Ukrainian Insurgent Army.) Those two are some of the vilest nazi orgs you will come across.

http://www.salon.com/2014/02/25/is_the_us_backing_neo_nazis_in_ukraine_partner/

The article forgets to mention that Bandera was imprisoned in Germany when Ukrainian nationalists were committing war crimes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera
Despite the central role played by Bandera's followers in the massacre of Poles in western Ukraine, Bandera himself was interned in a German concentration camp when the concrete decision to massacre the Poles was made and when the Poles were killed. According to Jaroslaw Hrycak, during his internment, from the summer of 1941, he was not completely aware of events in Ukraine and moreover had serious differences of opinion with Mykola Lebed, the OUN-B leader who remained in Ukraine and who was one of the chief architects of the massacres of Poles.[40][41] Bandera was thus not directly involved in those massacres.[40][unreliable source?]

...

A report, dated 30 March 1942, sent to the Gestapo in Berlin, claimed that "the Bandera movement provided forged passports not only for its own members, but also for Jews."[60] The false papers were most likely supplied to Jewish doctors or skilled workers who could be useful for the movement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera

[BTW]If you want to have a look at seriously vile non-German Nazi stuff, look at the Croatian Ustashe. (Warning: WWII Croatian concentration camps were even nauseating their German peers. This stuff is a degree more horrible than Auschwitz stuff, qualitatively (but of course not quantitatively). The grandma of a friend told about a necklace of human ears sold at a flea market...)
http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/05/06/croatias-far-right-weaponizes-the-past-ustase-hasanbegovic/
[/BTW]

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In summer 2014 I met some Euromaidan activists on the Rainbow Family world gathering ("world congress of hippies") in Hungaria. They were no Nazi at all. One was complaining about some Hungarian hippies' attitude towards gypsies. The red-black flags seen at Maidan place were meant to symbolize red blood on black earth, a carried by sort of hooligan "black block" people who were fighting/defending against police attacks.

BTW German soccer hooligans can also be quite Nazi.

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The rest / Re: Ukraine, Nazis and western support
« on: September 06, 2017, 03:56:33 PM »
I believe I heard of the Baptist Church from the Texan I'd previously mentioned. It was he who noted that the Orthodox and Muslim inhabitants would find little solstice there.


Google works when you work it!
Terry
Google indeed. Good you forgot this Texan. Here's what I got:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptists_in_Ukraine
The Baptist Church in Ukraine is one of the oldest and most widespread Protestant Christian denominations in the country. Before the fall of the Soviet Union, over half the 1.5 million acknowledged Baptists and Pentecostals in the USSR lived in Soviet Ukraine. Prior to independence in 1991, Ukraine was home to the second largest Baptist community in the world, after the United States, and was called the “Bible Belt” of the Soviet Union.

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History

The predecessors of today's Baptists, the Anabaptists, were in Ukraine in the 16th century.[1]
The first Baptist baptism (or "baptism by faith" of adult people) in Ukraine took place in 1864 on the river Inhul in the Yelizavetgrad region (now Kropyvnytskyi region), in a German settlement. In 1867, the first Baptist communities were organized in that area. From there, the denomination spread to the south of Ukraine and then to other regions as well. One of the first Baptist communities was registered in Kiev in 1907, and in 1908 the First All-Russian Convention of Baptists was held there. The All-Russian Union of Baptists was established in the town of Yekaterinoslav (now Dnipro).[when?] At the end of the 19th century, estimates are that there were from 100,000 to 300,000 Baptists in Ukraine.[4]
(my emph.)

So shocking! :)

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The rest / Re: Ukraine, Nazis and western support
« on: September 06, 2017, 03:29:57 PM »
Here's the very trustworthy Russia Today on these U.S. Navy charitable projects:
https://www.rt.com/news/154180-us-navy-crimea-charity/
Why NAVFAC Europe and Southwest Asia would spend the US military budget funds to renovate public installations in Crimea is an open question, yet the idea that this was made out of pure charity is doubtful.

The Voice of America website in Russian maintains that such renovation projects is a normal practice for the US military, which also has similar projects for Albania, Armenia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria (several kindergartens renovated in 2011), Georgia, Latvia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Romania and Serbia.

Yet practically all these countries are either NATO members (Albania, Bulgaria, Latvia, Romania), or have American military bases deployed on their territory.

The reason behind this activity is perhaps the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances
The Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances refers to three identical political agreements signed at the OSCE conference in Budapest, Hungary on 5 December 1994, providing security assurances by its signatories relating to Belarus's, Kazakhstan's and Ukraine's accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. The memorandum was originally signed by three nuclear powers, the Russian Federation, the United States of America, and the United Kingdom. China and France gave somewhat weaker individual assurances in separate documents.[1]
The memorandum included security assurances against threats or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan.
As a result, between 1994 and 1996, Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons.
(my emph.)

So, methinks Occam and his razor would think these renovations of schools, hospitals, churches are psychological warfare to make Ukrainians feels safe from Russia. :)

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Naturally there's lots of Russian propaganda on these matters. What surprises me is how quite a few Americans desperately want to believe this propaganda.
(BTW, did you know Rachel Maddow wants nuclear war with Russia :)

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: September 01, 2017, 06:50:37 PM »
The highest ethical standards would dictate only some transparency (though he's legally entitled to privacy about his personal sources of income).  By freely providing information about his speaking income, Bill has demonstrated ethical excellence.  And Hillary's non-role in his speaking fees is plainly unimpeachable.

In effect, yes, the implication was debunked.

Again I miss a "like" button :-)

Sure there must be some evil intent behind the Clintons' and their foundation's radical transparency. Maybe they want good Donnie look bad?

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/contributors

[edit] P.S.: Here's how ridicu-lousy that Bill Clinton speech meme is:
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-donald-trump-makes-speaking-fees-compared-everyone-else-2015-8

http://publicspeaking.co.ke/post/10-highest-paid-public-speakers-in-the-world
1. Donald Trump, $1-1.5 million
...
2. Ronald Reagan, $1 million
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3. Tony Blair, $616,000
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4. Bill Clinton, $150,000- $450,000
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5. Rudy Guilani, $270,000
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6. Alan Greenspan, $250,000
...
7. Lance Armstrong, $100,000 and up
...


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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: August 16, 2017, 11:54:24 PM »
I was ranting about Trump and white trash... and now Trump needs to confirm it!

Which reminds me of the first modern edition I saw of Hitler's book Mein Kampf (quite a lousy if not ridiculous book, my Grandpa left me one). It was an english translation, on the small bookshelf of a high school buddy in New Jersey, 1982.


Mine is a 1,003 page annotated English edition from 1939 that proudly claims not to have paid the nefarious author a nickel. Plenty of maps and pages of refutations per paragraph of statement.
Gifted to my father from my mother on xmas of 39, while he was still her chief chemist.


What a strange gift to an employee, a prospective mate, or a friend at the tail end of a long depression. I never knew either parent as having strong political feelings and was sometimes embarrassed by my mothers anti-Semitic bent. She fondly remembered Al Jolson as a family friend & neighbor, but would complain of sharp business dealings as just too "Jewy, Jewy, Jewy".
Perhaps she was just a product of her time.


Terry
Sweet story!  :)
I guess I understand your mother. What gift for a chief chemist? Either some weird schnapps, or some weighty book. But what book and how to decide. Chief scientist might find it wrong. Or, boring. He should at least not find it boring...

P.S.: Maybe it was a highly intelligent and politically informed crypto marriage proposal!?  My M-grandparents got their book as a standard gift from the state for their marriage, ca. 1936. Maybe your mother knew about that?

Didn't know such a huge english volume exists. (Could have needed it back then, when my grandpa's nazi buddies were around (original ex nazi men, incl. Waffen SS, busily denying Auschwitz stuff at the beer table, until their last days...). Opa himself, never ever had any dealings with the Nazi party. Plus he didn't have to go to war, important handyman at the chemical factory, doing anti-air gun service instead (like J Ratzinger did for the same factory, 5km away). Lucky man... The house he was allowed to build right after war even got some important tubes from the factory, which should have gone to Russia instead, hahaha. Hmmm, plus lots of bricks from luckily not blood stained buildings of a forced labor camp extension they never finished. Grandma sometimes sneaked them bread when they where marched by (I still have a letter from one prisoner). ... Spending a last year at that place, before the house gets torn down...)

Hmmm, maybe the book I've seen 1982 was a reprint? I remember a kinda fat paperback, perhaps more mass than the plain German original. Shouldn't have looked away.

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: August 16, 2017, 05:11:44 PM »
So, grab more popcorn.
Slowly methinks 2016/17/18 is the wreckage not of the D, but of the R party... and now, moral wreckage reckoning (who was Abe Lincoln?)... some Rs can't stand it anymore.

Maybe the GOP isn't yet completely rotten.

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: August 16, 2017, 04:49:32 PM »
Michael Moore's recent best:
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/08/15/michael-moore-dont-lose-sight-horror-trump-inflicts-every-single-day
(One goodie at the beginning about the rise of U.S. Nazis late 1970ies/1980ies in Michigan. Seems my NJ Mein Kampf buddy back then was as avantgarde as he pretended.)

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Apropos MSNBC's "The Last Word With Lawrence O'Donnell". The other hardcore show  ;) before is Rachel Maddow. From both last night:

Trump remarks on racist rally force moral reckoning for GOP:
http://player.theplatform.com/p/7wvmTC/MSNBCEmbeddedOffSite?guid=n_maddow_dschmidt_170815

Could Trump's comments lead to a GOP presidential primary?
http://player.theplatform.com/p/7wvmTC/MSNBCEmbeddedOffSite?guid=n_lw_bprimary_170815

First, from Rachels interview with a seasoned GOP strategist, this could well be a breakpoint for what is left of a serious GOP.
Second, at the end of a O'Donnell interview with yet another GOPer, there is serious party rebellion in the making. Tears almost flowing in another interview.

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: August 16, 2017, 03:15:57 PM »
Sometimes I miss a "like" button here  :)
Some reports place Imran with Seth Rich on his final night barhopping through Washington.

"Some reports"? That sure sounds a lot like Trump's pet qualifier "Lots of people are saying." ;-)

It is definitely the belief of the fantasy-immersed Infowars/WND/Breitbart/Drudge universe that Rich and Imran were out partying together the night he was murdered--doubtless escorted to the pedophile pizza dungeon by a topless DWS, Hillary & Bill in drag, Pelosi wearing a vinyl gimp costume, with a leash held by George Soros in one hand, and a vial of sacrificial goat's blood in the other. Or something.
like, cannibalism?
(Well, heck, looks like Hillary has contracted Kuru disease at Marina Abramovic "spirit cooking" happenings:
https://conservativedailypost.com/evidence-hillary-now-confirmed-to-have-kuru-disease-from-cannibalism-proof/
)

Besides, if Roger Stone says it happened, who is Rich's family to dispute it?

Good lord. Some ostensibly on the left have such a deep-seated hatred for All Things Clinton that they've become de facto members of the Alt-Right,
Yes indeed.
hungrily devouring whatever debunked and debunkable nonsense passes for "news" in that cesspool so long as it paints the DNC/DCCC in a negative light. And thus the circle is complete.

Sigh...

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: August 16, 2017, 03:00:56 PM »
I was ranting about Trump and white trash... and now Trump needs to confirm it!

Which reminds me of the first modern edition I saw of Hitler's book Mein Kampf (quite a lousy if not ridiculous book, my Grandpa left me one). It was an english translation, on the small bookshelf of a high school buddy in New Jersey, 1982.

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Greenland and Arctic Circle / Re: Greenland 2017 melt season
« on: August 15, 2017, 05:21:53 PM »
It's devastating for the local wildlife. Tundra grows very slowly.
I would think it's a normal part of nature there.

growth is fastest after wildfires, where i live almost half of the area has been on fire once during the past 20 years and growth, including speed and hight of brushes has doubled after each fire. further i think that the soil is building a bit faster since the tundra does not build that much of humus while ashes and burned residues do. even though in places it's blown away, it will accumulate in places and build fruitful earth, behaviour would be simiilar to sand and snow, filling throughs and building little thicker spots where different plants can grow once the climate allows.
Plus, some char coal is produced, which does not rot and improves soil structure. Fires can have a carbon sequestrating and soil building effect. E.g. some of the deep black chernozem soils seem to consist mostly of inorganic carbon from grass fires.

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: August 10, 2017, 07:27:45 AM »
Now how often have I spilled my popcorn and nothing seriously happened!? Manafort...

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: August 10, 2017, 06:54:26 AM »
Yeah. Rachel M.  8)
She seems to be sooo relieved by reporting on that ol North Korea thing...
"Is the U.S. running an actual policy here - or is this improv?"
http://player.theplatform.com/p/7wvmTC/MSNBCEmbeddedOffSite?guid=n_maddow_emitchell_170809

pppps ROTFLMAO preemptive strike? This is neither actual policy nor improv. Welcome to nucular stone age philosophy!!

pp...
please someone tell Bannon of Ol Ronnie's star wars vision...!

(getting seriously sentimental: I recall discussing associative memory chips for star wars "AI" in high school 1982...)

ppp s=pc^2 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann–Morgenstern_utility_theorem

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: August 10, 2017, 06:23:52 AM »
Thanks for educating the Trumpistan public. Now if you could do the same concerning climate change and target your educational effort towards Trumpistan officials and diplomats who have been ordered not to tell the truth by president Tillerson, it would be nice.
Let them boil in their inconsistencies...

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Apropos P.S. ...  8)
Pyongyang:
Trump had “let out a load of nonsense about ‘fire and fury’ failing to grasp the ongoing grave situation. This is extremely getting on the nerves of the infuriated Hwasong artillerymen of the KPA.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/10/north-korea-details-guam-strike-trump-load-of-nonsense

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: August 10, 2017, 05:19:05 AM »
Do you find North Korea from the world map? 2/3 of Trumpistans do not. Be clever and find North Korea.
Not too far north of Seoul, South Korea, 11th world economy... Quite a bit of its suburbs within reach of standard artillery (30km WW2 ballistics), if not rockets with little vials of VX...

P.S. Hmmm, don't be too scared of nuclear war. Or maybe Trump should play with antiballistics next time. Trump/Bannon quoting ol Reagan's star wars speech on Twitter...

PP.S. This well-located NK ordnance might be primitive, but could well overwhelm any defenses. If not taken out quickly (rarely does time and coordination play such a crucial role...)...

pppp... so: time - less place/coordinates. wherever this crazy breed of late hominins resides...

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: August 10, 2017, 03:56:55 AM »
If it happens, it will be shock and awe doctrine. Their whole infrastructure will be destroyed like Saddam's. Lil Kim will be a goner in a matter of days
Plus, Seoul. And 100,000s of collateral damage... If they can't take out NKs artillery quick enough. (That's why I call for drone swarms, a Japanese/Israeli/SK invention yet to come, for an entirely new anti-artillery scenario... (Been doing trig for huge German field artillery in the 1980ies, shooting better than new-GPS guided U.S. amis at Grafenwöhr...)

Here's a methinks overblown scenario (from April (yawn!) 2017, not 2013...):
http://thediplomat.com/2017/04/what-would-the-second-korean-war-look-like/
Should Pyongyang live up to its threat of turning Seoul into a “sea of fire,” casualties in the larger Seoul metropolitan area alone may surpass 100,000 within 48 hours, according to some estimates, even without the use of North Korean weapons of mass destruction.


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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: August 10, 2017, 02:47:43 AM »
North Korea has nuclear weapons. There is a reason we don't attack countries with nuclear weapons. The good general needs to recuse himself from this affair because he's proved himself to be as crazy as any of the fictional characters in "Doctor Strangelove, or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb".


Terry
Methinks the problem is their artillery. Lots of artillery. Along the whole border. How to take that out in one strike? (BTW, they demonstrated VX, the "deadliest nerve agent ever created"... so fugettabout nucular...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/24/what-is-vx-nerve-agent-killed-kim-jong-nam-north-korea


Awaiting the invention of drone swarms...

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: August 08, 2017, 06:17:08 PM »
"The media" is dominated (if not epitomized) by the white trash, from Hannity to AM radio clowns like Alex Jones to more sophisticated neuroclickological Borg collectives like Bannon's breit bart...

Trump is very much a product of these media players.
And now their chicken come home to roost, Trump their cockerel, still...
(I've once seen a shocking scene of chicken cannibalism...)

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Sorry for having gone rhapsodistical :-)
Had met my elderly white Black Panther friend again. At the 3rd day of debate and analysis I caught him talking me out of using the wØrd "white trash" (which I didn't) and so decided spontaneously to appreciate it as a synonym for  "trumplins"...

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: August 08, 2017, 04:46:13 PM »
Martin & Jim


Take a look at Hillary's response to Qaddafi's being sodomized with a bayonet, then tell me again that this is the person you'd want as Commander in Chief.


This isn't right wing propaganda, this is Hillary on National Television.


Grab a selection of the clips, play them until you've convinced yourself that this isn't some trick editing, then explain to me how I've been duped by the Russians, the far right, or seduced by Bernie.
Seen it. Also seen the reaction of my friend Abdul, who had to flee from the Qaddafi clan. Was that gruesome detail about the bayonet known to Abdul or Hillary in the moment of their rejoice? I don't seriously care! Abdul still is one of the greatest men I know personally. Perhaps not a genius, but he knows horses... What I found a more interesting dig job is the rôle of the French in this story. But I haven't done this homework yet.

You are duped by decades of right wing propaganda. Perhaps not in a literal epistemologico sense - I guess you're not yet bubbled, living in a pathological sphere beside reality (like methinks 30% of Americans)... It is more of the smell (think-miasm) of decades of conservative ape shit and rotten brain thrown around by the Very Serious People (Krugman) and their fake news clowns (now with Russian help) deludo leading the "white trash" (sorry) aka Hillary's deplorables (thank gods their pastors are divided...). This methinks has infiltrated significant portions of the "left".

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: August 06, 2017, 11:32:40 PM »
Thank god she'll never have her finger near the button.
Terry
Blaming Hillary for Trump.
Than g@d I'm not a pychiatrist. But I'm a memeto pathologist. Decades of Bannonade with this "evil Hillary" meme have come to fruition in 2016. And now, excuses and rationalizing...

It's getting seriously comical.

The right wingnut half of U.S. polit-think has eaten a major chunk of the Left's brain.

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: August 06, 2017, 06:18:34 PM »
Extract: "News that promotes American interests is often overwhelmed on the popular social-media platform by information that seeks to undermine it -- most notably from Russian agents and bots
Plus Breitbart (like recently, perhaps directed by Bannon out of the WH), plus Faux News, plus the male white trash wingnut masses who delight in this stuff.

"The Russians" are just helping keep this brew boiling, a brew made in U.S.A., over decades.

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: August 05, 2017, 03:25:47 PM »
Hmmm, back to topic. Methinks Putin has achieved one victory in this i-war: He conquered Wikileaks.
And this Hersh tape thing (injected via Wikileaks, not Hersh himself) is consistent with my thinks.

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: August 05, 2017, 03:09:12 PM »
I have heard Hersh speak before, the audio sounds exactly like him.

Just to be sure, i listened to it again. Hersh makes the following allegations

1) FBI has found correspondence between Rich and wikileaks
2) In these, Rich asked for money and first sent samples of the emails before sharing the corpus via dropbox
3) Russian involvement in the leaks was faked by Brennan and Rogers

sidd
and these allegations turned out baseless. Hersh is rehashing the Faux News story. What is the context of the tape? (No, I won't dig after it. This is a distraction from digging after the real stuff (albeit a very paradigmatic one, incl. appeal to paranoid ideation, and hordes of internet trolls and their fish and tweeting sock puppets...)).


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