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Arctic sea ice / Re: What's new in the Arctic ?
« Last post by Jim Hunt on Today at 10:19:21 PM »
Barneo 2017 being established.

Not  so new on the ASIF though!  See the dedicated thread:,1905
The forum / Re: What is Off Topic and What is Not?
« Last post by Tigertown on Today at 10:08:37 PM »
From the melting season:

So again, my 'rules' (they are actually universal laws):

1) Every comment in the melting/freezing season threads should pertain to that subject. These are the most popular threads for readers who don't comment, so don't bother them with off-topic stuff.
2) If you have to be off-topic, be short.
3) If you're the third guy who wants to say something about the off-topic subject, say: Okay, guys, this is getting off-topic, let's go to this or that thread - or open a new one - so our discussions don't get lost and we don't bother others. It's a big forum.
4) In other threads you can go off-topic more.
5) Don't start discussions about these rules in the thread itself. PM Neven or go to the The Forum category.

It's a big forum. Don't try to stuff all your ideas, theories and opinions in this one thread. Many people come here to read about the latest near real-time news on the 2017 melting season, not about the implications, the consequences and the politics of it all. Show some respect.
Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2017 melting season
« Last post by slow wing on Today at 10:05:16 PM »

  My guess at the reason why there are no visible cracks in the Beaufort Sea at the moment is because it has been under fairly constant compression over at least the past month. So the lack of cracks probably doesn't speak much to the quality, or otherwise, of the ice there.
Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« Last post by silkman on Today at 09:55:45 PM »

I can honestly say that in many years of vegetable gardening I've never knowingly killed a bird with a net. The only species interested in getting at my brassicas are Wood Pigeons and they are big enough to look after themselves. I use cheap plastic nets to keep them at bay. The truth is that, without the nets, there are no sprouts for Sunday lunch.

As you rightly say, soft fruit bushes are more of a challenge as they do attract lots of interest from a range of smaller birds. So to protect our precious currants and berries I use much more expensive soft woven nets that don't seem to cause any problems. I do on occasion have to rescue the odd well fed finch that has found its way in but can't get out again though!
Arctic sea ice / Re: Piomas vs. CryoSat
« Last post by Neven on Today at 09:50:15 PM »
Maybe they've been reading here, but it seems people at the NSIDC are aware of the situation:

Data from the European Space Agency’s CryoSat-2 satellite indicate that this winter’s ice cover may be only slightly thinner than that observed at this time of year for the past four years. However, an ice-ocean model at the University of Washington (PIOMAS) that incorporates observed weather conditions suggests the volume of ice in the Arctic is unusually low.
Arctic sea ice / Re: Stupid Questions :o
« Last post by DavidR on Today at 09:36:10 PM »
All our lady friends might prefer that we make diamonds from the carbon. ;)
Pile upon pile of them. Millions, no billions of them.
A brilliant idea. But if we made them one million 5 Carat diamonds EACH (= 1 tonne Carbon / per lady) we would just about make a dent in one years CO2 emissions. 
Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« Last post by Red on Today at 09:33:10 PM »
are slugs edible?
I'm not sure I would eat them. The ones found in my area have a parasite in the slime trail they leave behind. It causes liver flukes in cattle and goats. The cattle form a cyst around the fluke and that is the end of it. However this doesn't happen with goats, as a result during very wet springs and summers I had some serious infections in my dairy goats that required antibiotics. Needless to say this was always a pain for someone trying to stay away from these things.
Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« Last post by sesyf on Today at 09:29:51 PM »
Silkman, and others: you need to be careful with those nets as birds can get caught in them. I've seen such things in neighbours garden long time ago... especially when bushes started to have the berries...
Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« Last post by Neven on Today at 09:23:11 PM »
You have to remove the intestines, as they apparently give the slugs a horrible, bitter taste.  If you could eat them just like that, I'd never have to go to a supermarket again. But then again, ducks eat them, and you can eat the ducks.

As for slug solutions, it depends on how many are plaguing your premises. There is no way I could keep out the local Army of Darkness (as I call them) with egg shells, never mind the fact that my vegetable garden is 500 square feet. And beer traps just lure them in.

So, what I did, was build an electric fence with two stainless steel wires attached to 6 rechargeable batteries and a red LED as a resistor. The 6-7 Volts keep most of the slugs out, killing the small ones (sorry, little buddies!).

This month I have built a couple of cold frames. Last night it was -4 °C, but with a blanket over it, the temperature in the cold frame remained stable at 1.2 °C. Unfortunately, my wife forgot to open them yesterday, and half the plants died from the greenhouse effect (38 °C).

But all in all, it should help us plant things earlier.
Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2017 melting season
« Last post by seaicesailor on Today at 09:20:45 PM »
BTW when I said absence of cracks in the American side I meant mostly the Beaufort sea. As seen in that pic posted by A4R, north of the CAA and Greenland is a complete different story, but the danger there is not so much insolation but mobility of the ice toward the Atlantic ocean as explained by A4R.
Well, insolation too, eventually   :-\
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