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« Reply #800 on: September 26, 2016, 06:14:13 PM »
U.S.:   Electric cars to have bigger impact than ever as emissions from transport are about to surpass those from electricity
In the US, carbon dioxide emissions from electricity generation, primarily coal, have long been the main air polluter in the country, but it’s about to change. Continuing its long declining trend since the 2008 financial crisis, emissions from electricity generation are about to be surpassed by emissions from the transportation sector in the US.

Unfortunately, it’s not only because emissions from electricity generation are declining, but also because emissions from the transportation sector have actually increased in recent years as the economy continued to grow and gas prices are staying relatively low.

A study from the University of Michigan Energy Institute (via Technology Review), which plotted the chart seen below, attribute the decline in emissions from electricity generation to the increase in renewable energy deployment and the shift away from coal toward cleaner-burning natural gas as a way to generate electricity...

Of course, the emissions from the transportation sector include everything from planes to trucks to passenger cars. Therefore, it may take some time before electric vehicles have a significant impact, but the fact that electricity generation is becoming cleaner is a good sign that the impact of EVs will be more significant.

The electric cars on the road today are being powered by electricity that on average creates significantly less emissions than just a few years ago. The trend is likely to continue with the cost of solar going down and deployment of capacity going up.

Ultimately, it means that vehicles with combustion engines that we replace by electric powertrains have a greater impact on emissions today than ever before.
https://electrek.co/2016/09/26/electric-cars-impact-emissions-transport-emissions-from-electricity/
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« Reply #801 on: September 27, 2016, 12:51:25 AM »
The linked reference indicates that the USA will not meet their stated Paris Pact goal by following their current policies:

Jeffery B. Greenblatt & Max Wei (2016), "Assessment of the climate commitments and additional mitigation policies of the United States", Nature Climate Change, doi:10.1038/nclimate3125

http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nclimate3125.html
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Abstract: "Current intended nationally determined contributions (INDCs) are insufficient to meet the Paris Agreement goal of limiting temperature change to between 1.5 and 2.0◦C above pre-industrial levels, so the effectiveness of existing INDCs will be crucial to further progress. Here we assess the likely range of US greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions in 2025 and whether the US’s INDC can be met, on the basis of updated historical and projected estimates. We group US INDC policies into three categories reflecting potential future policies, and model 17 policies across these categories. With all modelled policies included, the upper end of the uncertainty range overlaps with the 2025 INDC target, but the required reductions are not achieved using reference values. Even if all modelled policies are implemented, additional GHG reduction is probably required; we discuss several potential policies."
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« Reply #802 on: September 27, 2016, 06:15:59 AM »
Will world leader actually get a handle on the global surge for air conditioning and refrigeration?

http://www.climatecentral.org/news/100-countries-phase-out-hfcs-20725

At least people have started to care, so let's hope they do. Although banned, CFCs and HCFCs are still in use, machines can run for 40-50 years.
There are easy fixes though, my own project has been dormant for years now since that small amount of ethane costs me as much a a new machine.  ::)
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« Reply #803 on: September 30, 2016, 01:41:05 AM »
Oslo's radical "climate budget" aims to halve carbon emissions in four years
Oslo's leftist city government issued its first "climate budget" on Wednesday aiming to halve greenhouse gas emission within four years in one of the world's most radical experiments to slow global warming.

The budget, setting out annual goals to choke off emissions from cars, homes and businesses in the Norwegian capital, adds to a scheme announced last year to ban private cars from the city center.

"We'll count carbon dioxide the same way as we count money," Vice Mayor Robert Steen told Reuters of the targets for halving emissions by 2020.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-climatechange-oslo-idUKKCN11Y1RK
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« Reply #804 on: September 30, 2016, 08:31:41 AM »
That's more like shooting sparrows with a cannon, I wish Norway would adopt the same attitude towards their oil and gas explorations.
http://www.norskoljeoggass.no/no/Nyheter/2016/Fortsatt-stor-interesse-for-leting-etter-olje-og-gass-i-Norge/
Continued large interest in oil and gas exlorations in Norway.

Meanwhile in Sweden, the sentiments are the same in the offshore business. Attaching a presentation made by SEB's Commodity strategist Anders Söderberg recently, a forecast for global energy consumption. The rest from that meeting is here: http://offshorevast.se/23-september-kort-fran-eventet-mojligheter-och-utmaningar-inom-subseaindustrin/

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« Reply #805 on: October 01, 2016, 04:04:20 PM »
EU fast-tracks Paris climate deal to brink of entering into force
India is set to ratify on Sunday, and EU approval next week would push agreement over line to take effect a month later
* All member states agree fast-track ratification
* EU will take deal across threshold to enter force
* Rare political "win" amid Brexit, migration discord
* Polish objections had cast doubt on speedy ratification ...

EU approval is a milestone because it would push the deal over the threshold required for ratification, of nations representing at least 55 percent of global emissions. China and the United States, the top emitters, ratified the pact this month.

http://news.trust.org/item/20160930125447-n07b0/
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« Reply #806 on: October 03, 2016, 04:14:11 PM »
The linked SkS article provides a convenient summary of some of the issues expected to be addressed by the IPCC's special report on the feasibility of the 1.5C goal:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/ipcc-special-report-scrutinise-feasibility-15C-goal.html

Extract: "… scientists will leave the Geneva conference on Wednesday and prepare an outline for the 1.5C report based on their discussions over the previous three days.

They will submit the proposed plan to the IPCC panel at its next meeting in Bangkok in October. If the outline meets the panel’s expectations, it will accept it and things move forward. If it falls short, they can request changes be made. The discussions in Geneva are, therefore, unlikely to be the last word."
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« Reply #807 on: October 03, 2016, 09:48:02 PM »
Any scientist wishing their research to be included in the special report on 1.5C will need to submit it to a peer-reviewed journal by October 2017, and have it accepted for publication by April 2018, according to the IPCC’s timeline.

If we haven't already blown the 1.5C budget (which we likely have), it will almost definitely be blown by the time the report makes it through peer review.

The language put into the Paris Accord for 1.5C was put there for political reasons and it's a waste of valuable time and resources to pursue 1.5 now. 10-20 years ago? Sure. Copenhagen would've been the last time any sort of legitimate argument could have been made. But not now.

Notice how steep the curves have gotten for 2C? And this is with making some pretty optimistic assumptions about carbon feedback and climate sensitivity.

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« Reply #808 on: October 05, 2016, 09:33:27 AM »
I doubt anyone is seriously trying for the 2C limit either. Borrowing from the future is such a great temptation.

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« Reply #809 on: October 05, 2016, 06:09:37 PM »
Hansen offers "4 Reasons the Paris Agreement Won’t Solve Climate Change" in the linked article:

http://www.ecowatch.com/james-hansen-climate-change-2030724330.html

Extract: "The paper offers an opportunity to examine the current state of the planet with respect to climate change. Four key takeaways include:

1. The Paris Climate Accord is a precatory agreement, wishful thinking that mainly reaffirms, 23 years later, the 1992 Rio Framework Convention on Climate Change. The developing world need for abundant, affordable, reliable energy is largely ignored, even though it is a basic requirement to eliminate global poverty and war. Instead the developed world pretends to offer reparations, a vaporous $100B/year, while allowing climate impacts to grow.

2. As long as fossil fuels are allowed to be held up as the cheapest reliable energy, they will continue to be the world's largest energy source and the likelihood of disastrous consequences for young people will grow to near certainty.

3. Technically, it is still possible to solve the climate problem, but there are two essential requirements: (1) a simple across-the-board rising carbon fee collected from fossil fuel companies at the source, and (2) government support for RD&D (research, development and demonstration) of clean energy technologies, including advanced generation, safe nuclear power.

4. Courts are crucial to solution of the climate problem. The climate "problem" was and is an opportunity for transformation to a clean energy future. However, the heavy hand of the fossil fuel industry works mostly in legal ways such as the "I'm an Energy Voter" campaign in the U.S. Failure of executive and legislative branches to deal with climate change makes it essential for courts, less subject to pressure and bribery from special financial interests, to step in and protect young people, as they did minorities in the case of civil rights."
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« Reply #810 on: October 05, 2016, 06:10:15 PM »
Trump and Brexit fears helped speed countries to sign the Paris accord now, avoiding the usual delays with such agreements.

EU backing tips Paris climate deal over threshold to enter into force
The European Parliament backed the Paris accord to fight climate change on Tuesday, the EU executive said, tipping it over the threshold needed for the global deal to enter into force.

http://www.reuters.com/article/climatechange-eu-idUSL5N1CA1PF
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« Reply #811 on: October 06, 2016, 12:38:43 AM »
Video:  President Obama on the Paris Agreement:  More is needed, but it is an important step for the world, in the right direction.  And we've shown that we can grow the economy and add jobs while switching to clean energy.

“Today is an historic day in the fight to protect our planet for future generations.” —@POTUS on #ParisAgreement
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« Reply #812 on: October 06, 2016, 07:22:00 AM »
From the BBC. "Life on a vanishing ice highway in Canada"

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37567131
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« Reply #813 on: October 06, 2016, 09:34:21 AM »
A small update to a part of a previous comment I made.
There was a lawsuit filed against the state on the 15:th of September regarding Vattenfall's dirty lignite business sale to Czech EPH. Let's see if that puts a hold on the sale?
Poor Vattenfall, owned by the state, they wish to be clean and green today. Ah, maybe I'm just an old grumpy man, but I would suppose the lawsuit will have little effect, considering the big picture. We're still running over the same old ground.
Vattenfall has now closed the deal with Czech EPH.
https://corporate.vattenfall.se/press-och-media/pressmeddelanden/2016/vattenfall-slutfor-forsaljningen-av-tyska-brunkolstillgangar/
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« Reply #814 on: October 07, 2016, 04:57:58 PM »
Mainstream economists are beginning to acknowledge that we face a strong prospect of socio-economic collapse in the coming decades, if we do not take much stronger action than the Paris Pact:

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/global-economy-self-destruct-nicholas-stern-fossil-fuels-sustainable-infrastructure-report-a7347211.html

Extract: "A renowned economist who helped persuade the world to start taking climate change seriously has warned the global economy could “self-destruct” if countries fail to ditch fossil fuels and embrace a clean, green, high-tech future.
Professor Lord Nicholas Stern was credited with bringing about a sea change in attitudes when he calculated the cost of failing to tackle the problem in 2006. While dealing with global warming would cost one per cent of the world’s gross domestic product, doing nothing would be up to 20 times more expensive, he concluded.
Now Professor Stern, former Mexican president, Felipe Calderón, and other leading figures from politics, finance and science have launched a major new report saying Governments and businesses must change course – and quickly."
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« Reply #815 on: October 08, 2016, 05:24:35 PM »
Australia lags behind as Paris climate deal swings into action
Two thirds of Australians want their country to be a leader in the climate field. Yet when countries gather in Marrakech in a month for what will now be the first meeting of the parties to the Paris agreement, Australia will remain on the outside.

This is not just symbolic. When countries meet in Morocco issues of national consequence will be discussed.

On Wednesday, as New Zealand announced it had formally joined the treaty, the climate change minister Paula Bennett said the move would give her country “a seat at the decision-making table on matters that affect the Paris agreement”. For New Zealand that means trying to eke out advantageous accounting rules to benefit its major forestry and agriculture industries.

There’s a real procedural issue in theory, because if you don’t ratify the agreement then you don’t have decision-making power,” said Erwin Jackson, deputy CEO of the Climate Institute, an Australian thinktank.

Australia is not alone. There are 123 other countries that have not yet signed up. Although when all the EU member states have formally joined it will leave Chile, Israel, Japan, Turkey and Australia as the only OECD members on the outer.

http://www.climatechangenews.com/2016/10/06/australia-paris-agreement-outsider/
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« Reply #816 on: October 09, 2016, 06:20:05 PM »
Explainer: Paris Agreement on climate change to ‘enter into force’
The Paris Agreement will formally come into force next month, legally binding countries that have ratified the deal to act on the pledges made last year.

This includes a commitment by every country to prepare increasingly ambitious pledges to tackle greenhouse gas emissions every five years, known as Nationally Determined Contributions.
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The deal won’t come into force instantly. The Paris Agreement stipulates that this will happen 30 days after both the thresholds have been crossed. The UN says this will be on 4 November.

But it does mean that it will be in force before countries meet again for their first major UN climate meeting since Paris — and before the US elections on the 8 November.
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What does this mean?

The entry into force of the Paris Agreement has a number of important implications.

It means that many of the provisions set out in December will now become legally binding on nations that have ratified. This includes drawing up plans to tackle climate change and providing financial and technical support to developing countries. They will also have to undertake appropriate adaptation actions. ...

Countries cannot withdraw from the agreement for three years following its entry into force. If a country decides to exit after this time has expired, they need to wait another year before they can formally leave.

In light of the US elections, this is an important provision. Republican candidate Donald Trump has pledged to withdraw the US from the Paris Agreement if he becomes president.

Entry into force means that, even if he withdrew from the Agreement on his first day in office, the US wouldn’t actually leave for another four years. Unless Trump won a second term, there would be another president in office when this took effect.
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Logistics

The rapid entry into force also causes something of a logistical headache.

No one expected the Paris Agreement to come into force as early as it did. Until the penultimate draft of the Paris text, there were no options to allow the deal to come into force before 2020.

While the Paris Agreement set the direction for future climate action, its guiding rulebook still needs to be developed. In particular, a huge workload has been assigned to the “Ad Hoc Working Group on the Paris Agreement” (APA), which was set up to prepare the deal for entry into force.

The deadline for these tasks is the first meeting at which the Paris Agreement is in force, by which time the group is meant to have completed the rulebook. The APA started discussing these issues in May but, thanks to the deal’s unexpectedly speedy ratification, this work is still unfinished.

Once the Paris Agreement goes into force, discussions technically start taking place under the “Conference of the Parties serving as the meeting of the Parties to the Paris Agreement” (CMA). Thanks to the early entry into force, this will now take place for the first time in Marrakech in November, which is known as COP22.

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https://www.carbonbrief.org/explainer-paris-agreement-to-enter-into-force
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« Reply #817 on: October 13, 2016, 06:55:42 PM »
Antonio Guterres of Portugal Appointed as Next U.N. Secretary-General
UNITED NATIONS — The 193 U.N. member states have elected Portugal's former prime minister Antonio Guterres by acclamation as the next secretary-general of the United Nations.
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The 67-year-old Guterres, who served as the U.N. refugee chief for 10 years until last December, will take up the job of the world's top diplomat on Jan. 1 when Ban Ki-moon's second five-year term ends.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/united-nations-appoints-portugal-s-guterres-next-u-n-chief-n665736
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« Reply #818 on: October 14, 2016, 05:56:02 PM »
The linked article discusses Team Trump's disrespect for American scientists w.r.t. the Paris Accord:

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2016/10/donald-trump-scientists

Extract: "… Team Trump decided to use the opportunity to criticize the nation's scientists. "Mr. Trump and Gov. Pence appreciate that many scientists are concerned about greenhouse gas emissions," said the statement. It then added, "We need America's scientists to continue studying the scientific issues but without political agendas getting in the way.""
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« Reply #819 on: October 15, 2016, 07:05:44 PM »
This Scientific American article grades the four U.S. presidential candidates according to answers they supplied to 20 science policy questions. 

Grading the Presidential Candidates on Science
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/grading-the-presidential-candidates-on-science/
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« Reply #820 on: October 15, 2016, 07:18:13 PM »
While I do appreciate the Kigali deal to control HFCs; we need to be realistic that the HFC industry will install large banks of HFCs into "… the world's hottest countries" by 2028 that will continue leaking HFCs into the atmosphere well past the end of this century (note this post is related to the "... and beyond" part of this thread's title):

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/15/world/africa/kigali-deal-hfc-air-conditioners.html?_r=0

Extract: "Negotiators in Kigali conceded that the final deal was much less stringent than some had originally hoped. The United States and other rich countries had pushed a plan that would freeze the use of the heat-trapping chemicals by 2021, reducing them to about 15 percent of 2012 HFC levels by 2046. That plan would have eliminated the equivalent of about 90 billion tons of carbon dioxide pollution from the atmosphere by 2050.

Negotiators from India and some of the world’s other hottest and poorest countries pushed back hard at that proposal. In India, millions of people are on the verge of being able to afford air-conditioners cooled by HFCs.

The final deal will divide the world economy into three tracks. The richest countries, including the United States and those in the European Union, will freeze the production and consumption of HFCs by 2018, reducing them to about 15 percent of 2012 levels by 2036.
Much of the rest of the world, including China, Brazil and all of Africa, will freeze HFC use by 2024, reducing it to 20 percent of 2021 levels by 2045.

A small group of the world’s hottest countries — India, Pakistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait — will have the most lenient schedule, freezing HFC use by 2028 and reducing it to about 15 percent of 2025 levels by 2047."
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« Reply #821 on: October 15, 2016, 07:22:47 PM »
The linked article is entitled: "Important global warming pollutants excluded from ‘historic’ aviation pact". While I appreciate this aviation pact, we should be realistic to acknowledge that the aviation industry would have implemented most of the fuel efficiency measures even without the pact; and that the other emission pollutants (besides CO₂) are important and are not yet controlled (note that this post is related to the "... and beyond" part of this thread's title):

http://www.nationalobserver.com/2016/10/14/news/important-global-warming-pollutants-excluded-%E2%80%98historic%E2%80%99-aviation-pact

Extract: "An Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report on aviation emissions from 1999 found that while the principal emissions from aircraft are CO2 and water, aviation is also responsible for emissions like nitric oxide, nitrogen dioxide, sulfur oxide and soot — climate change-inducing emissions the ICAO’s market-based measure doesn’t cover."
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« Reply #822 on: October 16, 2016, 12:18:37 AM »
The major lacking to Paris exposed to me is the need is to not hit 2C and the oceans are very close 1.6-1.7C above pre-industrial, we have jumped CO2 100-ppm in 100-years, that's a full swing of CO2 for a glacial-to-interglacial cycle of 100,000-years in a century.

We must end the Steam Age for electrons a major need not done or reduced it's gained.

For 2015 we added 3.05-ppm that's about 37-Gigatons CO2-eqv, frozen it's 37 cubic-km's of gas, 25% of it stays for over 10,000-years in the atmosphere, Catch-22 on CO2.

The idea to sequester that much CO2 a year will shatter strata to earthquakes along with acid poisoning from the CO2 touching groundwater or aquifers.

Dumped into the sea it's likely to cause a benthic extinction, it may take 3-years worth.

That's rather immature and delusional geophysically speaking, it's the same problem with nuclear waste, eh?

End the Steam-Age for electrons, 80% of grid power is for thermal end uses those switching to active solar-HVAC means ending the grid will take less than 5-years having only 20% of the demand to keep it in business, if it was a war maybe 2-months.

It's simply faster, cheaper and easier removing those from the grid by using onsite thermal collection & storage having zero emissions, far less copper and concrete-n-steel as carbon-footprint and doesn't go down in a big storm.
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« Reply #823 on: October 20, 2016, 09:39:19 PM »
Global Cooperation through Carbon Markets Could Cut Climate Mitigation Costs Dramatically: New World Bank Report
The Paris Agreement, reached at COP21 in late 2015, sets up a framework for global cooperation through carbon markets. Over 100 countries consider carbon pricing initiatives as part of their NDCs, through emissions trading within or across borders, international crediting, carbon taxation and other measures.
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The report also shows that momentum on carbon pricing has continued to grow. In 2016, 40 national jurisdictions and over 20 cities, states, and regions are putting a price on carbon, including seven out of 10 of the world’s largest economies. The coverage of carbon pricing initiatives on global emissions has increased threefold over the past decade, translating to the equivalent of around 7 gigatons of carbon dioxide (GtCO2e), or about 13 percent of global GHG emissions. In addition, governments raised about US$26 billion in revenues from carbon pricing initiatives in 2015. This represents a 60 percent increase compared to the revenues raised in 2014.

http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2016/10/18/global-cooperation-through-carbon-markets-could-cut-climate-mitigation-costs-dramatically-new-world-bank-report
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« Reply #824 on: October 20, 2016, 09:42:54 PM »
The linked Carbon Brief article has an associated video of talking heads about what are important issues to be addressed in an IPCC Special report on the 1.5C goal.  As I doubt that collectively we will achieve this goal (as the report will not be issued until 2018 and we may likely be between 1.25 and 1.3C by the end of 2016), I believe that the most important issue would be to frame the report in terms of systemic risks.

https://www.carbonbrief.org/scientists-priorities-for-ipcc-special-report-1point5c

Extract: "“It will be delivered in 2018, in time for the facilitative dialogue that will be held that year by governments to review progress on the Paris Agreement’s goal of limiting global warming to well below 2C, whilst pursuing efforts to hold it to 1.5C.”"
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« Reply #825 on: October 27, 2016, 04:26:29 PM »
The linked Climate Central article is entitled: "New Oil Discoveries Largely Unaffected by Paris Pact", and it confirms that the Paris Pact does very little to keep crude oil in the ground:

http://www.climatecentral.org/news/oil-discoveries-largely-unaffected-by-paris-pact-20820

Extract: "Large crude oil discoveries in 2016 face uncertain prospects of development for many reasons, but climate change isn’t one of them, at least for the moment.

Climate policies that help countries meet their obligations under the Paris Agreement are likely to have little effect on newly discovered oil fields because the Paris pact all but ignores crude oil consumption and production, experts say. The fate of new oil discoveries hinges mainly on volatile crude oil markets, the availability of oil in existing fields and evolving electric vehicle technology."
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Re: UN Climate Agreement - Paris 2015 and beyond
« Reply #826 on: October 28, 2016, 05:24:20 PM »
The linked article is entitled: "Climate Doomsday – Another Step Closer".  It indicates that the WMO believes that we collectively need to accelerate our efforts to fight climate change; because what we are currently doing is not enough to protect our global socio-economic system from serious negative impacts:

http://www.ipsnews.net/2016/10/climate-doomsday-another-step-closer/

Extract: "Almost inadvertently, humankind is getting closer every day to the point of no-return towards what could be called the ‘climate doomsday’.

Now, globally averaged concentration of carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere has surged again to new records in 2016… and will not dip below pre-2015 levels for many generations.

The warning comes from the United Nations weather agency–the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) and further confirms the alarm of climate experts and world specialised organisations.

On the one hand, the WMO secretary-general, Petteri Taalas said that 2015 ushered in a new era of optimism and climate action with the Paris climate change agreement. “But it will also make history as marking a new era of climate change reality with record high greenhouse gas concentrations.”

“Without tackling carbon dioxide emissions, we cannot tackle climate change and keep temperature increases to below 2 degrees Celsius above the pre-industrial era… It is therefore of the utmost importance that the Paris Agreement does indeed enter into force well ahead of schedule on 4 November and that we fast-track its implementation,” Taalas on 24 October 2016 stressed."
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« Reply #827 on: October 29, 2016, 04:37:26 PM »
The linked article is entitled: "Rich Countries Are Still Pushing Dirty Energy on Poor Ones".  While this article is largely anecdotal, it speaks to the larger truth, that entities from rich countries are already circumventing the coming Paris Pact pledges by pushing dirty industries (not just energy) to poorer countries (which is what they did with China & which has kept us all on a BAU pathway).

http://www.takepart.com/feature/2016/10/28/coal-in-developing-nations

Extract: "Even as the U.S. pledges to cut its emissions, it is helping to finance new coal-powered plants overseas."
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« Reply #828 on: October 30, 2016, 10:15:07 AM »
https://ec.europa.eu/clima/policies/transport/shipping/index_en.htm
Reducing emissions from the shipping sector.
The EU is calling for a global approach to reducing greenhouse gas emissions from international shipping – a large and growing source of emissions. As a first step, large ships using EU ports will be from 2018 required to report their verified annual emissions and other relevant information.
Shipping emissions are predicted to increase between 50% and 250% by 2050 – depending on future economic and energy developments.
My bold. We do not have that time available and we can not increase emissions at all.

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Re: UN Climate Agreement - Paris 2015 and beyond
« Reply #829 on: November 01, 2016, 05:40:13 PM »
The linked article is entitled: "Geoengineering to Alter Climate Moves Closer to Reality".  The article indicates that: (a) the Paris Pact (COP21) essentially commits the signature nations to use geoengineering to remain below 2C as every other pathway is fantasy; (b) the UN is thus investigating means to re-engineers the Earth Systems; and (c) acknowledges that currently the impacts resulting from the use of geoengineering are unpredictable.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-31/geoengineering-to-alter-climate-change-moves-closer-to-reality

Extract: "A United Nations body is investigating controversial methods to avert runaway climate change by giving humans the go-ahead to re-engineer the Earth’s oceans and atmosphere.

So-called geoengineering is seen as necessary to achieve the COP21 Paris agreement clinched in December, when 197 countries pledged to keep global temperatures rises below 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit), according to researchers who produced a report for the UN Convention on Biological Diversity.

“Within the Paris agreement there’s an implicit assumption that there will need to be greenhouse gases removed,” said Phil Williamson, a scientist at the U.K.’s University of East Anglia, who worked on the report. “Climate geoengineering is what countries have agreed to do, although they haven’t really realized that they’ve agreed to do it.”

Large-scale geoengineering may include pouring nutrients into oceans to save coral habitats or spraying tiny particles into the Earth’s atmosphere to reflect sun rays back into space. Geoengineering proposals have been shunned because of their unpredictable consequences on global ecosystems."
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Re: UN Climate Agreement - Paris 2015 and beyond
« Reply #830 on: November 01, 2016, 08:45:34 PM »
In rare move, China criticizes Trump plan to exit climate change pact
China on Tuesday rejected a plan by U.S. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump to back out of a global climate change pact, saying a wise political leader should make policy in line with global trends, a rare comment on a foreign election.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-climatechange-china-idUSKBN12W349
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Re: UN Climate Agreement - Paris 2015 and beyond
« Reply #831 on: November 03, 2016, 07:16:19 PM »
Eric Holthaus: 
We're just days away from the start of this year's Conference of the Parties—22 years after the world first agreed to tackle climate change. After all that time, the rubber is finally meeting the road: Last year brought the Paris Accord, the first time that virtually every nation on Earth agreed to reduce their emissions for the common good. It was a BFD.

Now, it's time to agree on the details of how to convert those pledges into action. The best preview of this year's meeting, in Marrakech, Morocco, is from Carbon Brief. Here's their bullet points describing what's on the agenda:
 
• How can all countries be included in the talks?
• What form and content should climate pledges include?
• How should progress be tracked?
• What action should be taken on loss and damage?
• How can poor nations be supported?
• How will action be transparent and accountable?
• What information needs to be provided on adaptation?
• Where’s the money going to come from?
• Who’s US president?

If you prefer prose to bullet points, this preview from Kate Wheeling is also well worth your time. Bottom line: There's still a long, long way to go before we can declare climate victory.

The two-week meeting in Morocco might not get nearly the mainstream news coverage as last year's gathering in Paris, but it's critically important. I'll be following detailed coverage from Pacific Standard, among others, and I've also set up a COP22 Twitter list so anyone interested can follow along with up-to-the-minute updates.

Hypertext links to the items Eric referenced above are in his post:
http://tinyletter.com/sciencebyericholthaus/letters/today-in-weather-climate-cop22-preview-edition-thursday-november-3rd
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Re: UN Climate Agreement - Paris 2015 and beyond
« Reply #832 on: November 05, 2016, 02:18:36 PM »
Hey, SciAm, news flash for you:  everyone knew Paris wouldn't keep us to 2 degrees warming.  Paris was a vital step, but not the whole journey!

Climate Pledges Will Fall Short of Needed 2 Degree C Limit
Just a day before the Paris accord takes effect, the U.N. says nations must make deeper emissions cuts
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/climate-pledges-will-fall-short-of-needed-2-degree-c-limit/

Christiana Figueres' Reddit "Ask Me Anything"
"The 2 degrees Celsius temperature goal is achievable"
I have been pellucidly clear that the agreement in Paris is not going to reach a 2 degree limit on temperature rise as though that were something we can take off a magical shelf and put on the table. I have been equally clear that getting us on to the 2 degree pathway is entirely possible. This is why the Paris agreement will have two very important components with regard to emission reductions: First, it will harness all the national climate change plans which as a group, if fully implemented, already substantially reduce the business as usual growth in emissions. Second, in recognition that this first set of INDCs (the national climate action plans) is a departure point and not a destination, the Paris agreement will construct a path of ever-increasing emission reductions with periodic checkpoints of progress until we get to the 2 degree pathway.

http://newsroom.unfccc.int/unfccc-newsroom/10-messages-from-the-un-s-top-climate-official-reddit-ama/


Paris Talks Won’t Achieve 2°C Goal: Does That Matter?
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/paris-talks-wont-achieve-2-degree-goal-does-that-matter
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Re: UN Climate Agreement - Paris 2015 and beyond
« Reply #833 on: November 05, 2016, 04:45:07 PM »
Eric Holthaus: 
So, it's happened: The Paris Agreement is now international law, going into effect today. It's by no means perfect, but it probably has prevented the world from barrelling straight toward a worst-case climate scenario. The latest numbers show that, factoring in all the pledges made at Paris, the planet's temperature is still on course to rise about 3°C this century. That's catastrophic, but with a little luck, probably not enough to eliminate human civilization. So, there's that.

Something too many climate-focused campaigners quickly forgot after Paris: WE NOW HAVE A GLOBAL AGREEMENT TO FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE. That's huge. But the job has just begun.

Here's the best coverage I've seen of what happens next, now that Paris is law:

New York Times: From a business/economics perspective, Paris has barely moved the needle. Getting a global carbon tax that's big enough to matter will be very difficult.

E&E News: The numbers involved are truly daunting. "We still need to double what we achieved in 2015 every year for the next 20 years."

Grist: Why Paris is a BFD and always will be, even if mainstream media ignores it.

Links for the above articles at the link:  :D  http://tinyletter.com/sciencebyericholthaus/letters/today-in-weather-climate-after-paris-edition-friday-november-4th
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Re: UN Climate Agreement - Paris 2015 and beyond
« Reply #834 on: November 06, 2016, 07:07:56 PM »
'Last Chance' to Limit Global Warming to Safe Levels, UN Scientists Warn
New study says that unless nations ramp up their carbon-reduction pledges before 2020, it will be nearly impossible to keep warming to 2 degrees.
The next three years provide the "last chance" to limit global warming to safe limits in this century, the United Nations said, as it geared up for a conference in Morocco intended to carry forward the Paris agreement on climate change.

Unless nations move before 2020 to cut their emissions more aggressively than they have promised, the window of opportunity will close and the job that lies ahead will become more costly, it said.
 
The annual "emissions gap" report compares the goals of the treaty to the pledges of its signatories. In it, the United Nations Environment Program (UNEP) warned that unless reductions in carbon pollution from the energy sector are reduced swiftly and steeply, it will be nearly impossible to keep warming below 2 degrees, let alone to the 1.5 degree aspiration.
 
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/03112016/un-climate-scientists-last-chance-limit-global-warming-marrakech-morocco-cop-22
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« Reply #835 on: November 06, 2016, 11:46:52 PM »
The next three years provide the "last chance" to limit global warming to safe limits in this century, the United Nations said, as it geared up for a conference in Morocco intended to carry forward the Paris agreement on climate change.


The linked article is entitled: "After years of delay, climate talks face a new problem: speed".  It notes that while the Paris Part has now come legally into effect; there are currently no rules in place on how to implement it.  So at COP22 in Marrakech tomorrow the negotiators will likely open the first meeting of the governing body for the Paris Pact and then suspend it (most likely until 2018); thus allowing Nero to fiddle while Rome (/the World) burns.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-climatechange-accord-rules-idUSKBN1310M1?il=0

Extract: "The quick ratification of the global climate deal, however, will likely require a bit of procedural fancy footwork at the Nov. 7-18 U.N. climate talks.

Negotiators, for instance, likely will open the first meeting of the governing body of the Paris Agreement and then suspend it very soon after until 2017, or more likely 2018, said Ulriikka Aarnio, international policy coordinator for Climate Action Network Europe.

Talks can then continue but no decisions will need to be made until the suspension is lifted, she said. As only countries that have ratified the agreement can vote on the rules, the suspension could spur countries that have not yet passed the deal to do so quickly, she and others said.
“We need to find a way to ensure that the inclusiveness that has been at the core of the agreement is maintained, so that all countries that want to ratify and haven’t been able to do so are able to fully participate in the rule-making process," said WRI's Caballero.

Negotiators in Morocco will be trying to push ahead on a few key points, however, looking at immediate actions that could be taken to cut emissions and how emissions reductions could be ratcheted up from existing promises after a 2018 progress review.

They also will dig into how the world will make a promised shift to using virtually no fossil fuels by the second half of the century and how to hold global temperature rise to an ambitious target of “well below” 2 degrees Celsius.

“It’s now starting to sink in,” Aarnio said. “It means really, really drastic mitigation in all sectors, much faster than anything we’ve seen before.

That effort has had a boost in recent weeks with the passage of an accord to begin limiting the use of hydrofluorocarbons – refrigerants that are major contributors to climate change – and a separate deal to cap increases in aviation emissions by 2020.

Critics, however, say both deals and the national commitments so far made under the Paris Agreement are less ambitious than what is needed.

The U.N. environment agency, UNEP, says those national pledges put the world on track for an average temperature hike of 2.9 to 3.4 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial times."
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Re: UN Climate Agreement - Paris 2015 and beyond
« Reply #836 on: November 07, 2016, 07:41:04 PM »
The linked article is entitled: "If We Want To Stop Climate Change, We’re Going To Have To Pay For It".  My general feeling is that both the need to work together, and the need to enact serious measures like carbon fees/taxes, will mean that the progressive parts of the Paris Pact will unfold relatively slowly, and that consequently GMSTA will exceed 3C before 2050 (as I believe that ECS is closer to 4.5C than to 3C), which may then trigger a collapse of the WAIS and may induce some nations to implement some form of solar radiation management:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/climate-finance-day-cop-22_us_581ef22ae4b0e80b02ca9949

Extract: "It’ll be an expensive fight, and time is running out.

Addressing climate change is expected to cost the world tens of billions of dollars annually through 2020, in the form of efforts to curb emissions and adaptations to changes that are already underway. A recent report from the Global Commission on the Economy and Climate estimates that local and national governments and large banks will need to invest up to $90 trillion by 2050 to keep the planet from warming more than 2 degrees Celsius, the level at which scientists say the worst effects of climate change take hold.

… carbon taxes are “absolutely key” to discouraging investment in fossil fuels, said Gerard Mestrallet, chairman of Paris Europlace, a French financial think tank. Such a strategy would quantify climate risks, as each ton of carbon emissions would come at a hefty price. It would also undercut profits for big polluters and push investment toward low- and no-carbon alternatives like solar and wind.
“We must put a value on the climate risk associated with greenhouse gas emissions,” Mestrallet said.

While large governments, including from the U.S. and China, have taken important steps in recent months, the burden to act can’t rest on one nation’s shoulders, said Carbon Tracker Initiative’s Hobley. Cooperation is key.
“We can’t assume some fairytale government is going to legislate us on a fairytale pathway,” he said, urging business leaders to act. “We have a mission, all of us now, get out and communicate to the financial markets, the decisions made now can destroy [investment] value or they can create it.”
The Paris Agreement, while historic, is voluntary; nations that don’t follow through on their pledges face no legal repercussions."

Edit: The second linked ESLD reference indicates that the remaining carbon budget from 2015 may be as low as 590 GtCO2; and as CO₂-e emissions are around 50GtCO2 (which exceeds RCP 8.5 50%CL), it is easy to see that assuming ECS is 3C we could readily exceed the 2C limit by around 2030, or if ECS is 4C then we could exceed 2.7C by around 2032 to 2035, if we continue on our current BAU pathway for another 16 to 19 years. 
 
Joeri Rogelj, Michiel Schaeffer, Pierre Friedlingstein, Nathan P. Gillett, Detlef P. van Vuuren, Keywan Riahi, Myles Allen & Reto Knutti (2016) "Differences between carbon budget estimates unravelled", Nature Climate Change, Volume: 6, Pages: 245–252, doi:10.1038/nclimate2868

http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/v6/n3/full/nclimate2868.html

I note that the estimate of exceeding 2.7C by 2032 to 2035, does consider lag-time after the carbon budget has been exceeded, but does not consider the risk of accelerating Arctic Amplification due the potential early seasonal loss of Arctic Sea Ice Extent.
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Re: UN Climate Agreement - Paris 2015 and beyond
« Reply #837 on: November 09, 2016, 12:01:40 AM »
The linked Bloomberg article confirms that Marrakesh will put the brakes on CMA 1 until they figure out what rules apply to the Paris Pact:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-08/six-reasons-you-should-care-about-the-marrakesh-climate-talks

Extract: "Nobody expected the Paris deal to enter into force so soon and this year’s talks will actually seek to suspend some new negotiation strands. Since December, many countries moved quickly to ratification, reaching the threshold last month of 55 countries covering 55 percent of global emissions to make the deal legally binding. That triggered the creation of a new working group, known as CMA 1, which will be seeking to tie down rules about transparency. But now delegates will be seeking to put the brakes on CMA 1 until they’ve cleared other issues off the table."
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« Reply #838 on: November 13, 2016, 06:16:13 PM »
Australia ratifies Paris agreement.

Turnbull signals Australia won't follow Trump's lead on Paris climate agreement
Prime minister confirms Australia will ratify agreement despite opposition from One Nation and conservative Coalition MPs
Malcolm Turnbull has signalled Australia will not seek to withdraw from the Paris climate agreement even if the US president-elect, Donald Trump, follows through on his threat to cancel the emissions reductions commitments made by Barack Obama last December.

Turnbull on Thursday confirmed Australia had ratified the Paris agreement despite domestic opposition from the One Nation party, a critical Senate bloc for the government, and persistent climate change scepticism roiling within Coalition ranks
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/nov/10/turnbull-signals-australia-wont-follow-trumps-lead-on-paris-climate-agreement
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Re: UN Climate Agreement - Paris 2015 and beyond
« Reply #839 on: November 13, 2016, 06:47:59 PM »
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Could Turnbull's action be seen as a re-action to the Trump Triumph?
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« Reply #840 on: November 13, 2016, 07:49:11 PM »
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Could Turnbull's action be seen as a re-action to the Trump Triumph?
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I would say so -- at least in part.  Some countries/leaders may take this opportunity to thumb their noses at the U.S. and say, "See, we're better than them!"

Which is certainly better than a defeatist attitude.  :)

China certainly is doing so:
Proactively taking action against climate change will improve China's international image and allow it to occupy the moral high ground," Zou Ji, deputy director of the National Centre for Climate Change Strategy and a senior Chinese climate talks negotiator, told Reuters.

Zou said that if Trump abandons efforts to implement the Paris agreement, "China's influence and voice are likely to increase in global climate governance, which will then spill over into other areas of global governance and increase China's global standing, power and leadership."

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1360DK
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« Reply #841 on: November 15, 2016, 03:24:12 PM »
World CO2 emissions stay flat for 3rd year, helped by China falls - study
MARRAKESH, Morocco, Nov 14 (Reuters) - World greenhouse gas emissions stayed flat for the third year in a row in 2016, thanks to falls in China, even as the pro-coal policies of U.S. President-elect Donald Trump mean uncertainty for the future, an international study said on Monday.

Carbon dioxide emissions from fossil fuels and industry were set to rise a tiny 0.2 percent in 2016 from 2015 levels to 36.4 billion tonnes, the third consecutive year with negligible change and down from three percent growth rates in the 2000s, it said.

http://news.trust.org/item/20161114000455-vw85r/
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« Reply #842 on: November 16, 2016, 02:14:17 PM »
Sarkozy proposes carbon tax on US goods if Trump scraps Paris climate pact
“Well, I will demand that Europe put in place a carbon tax at its border, a tax of 1-3 per cent, for all products coming from the United States, if the United States doesn’t apply environmental rules that we are imposing on our companies,” he added.

http://m.en.rfi.fr/france/20161114-sarkozy-proposes-carbon-tax-us-goods-if-trump-scraps-paris-climate-pact
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« Reply #843 on: November 16, 2016, 06:58:33 PM »
More than 365 U.S. businesses and investors call for continued support for the Paris Agreement.

Dear President-elect Trump, President Obama, Members of the US Congress, and Global Leaders at COP22 in Marrakech:

We, the undersigned members in the business and investor community of the United States, re-affirm our deep commitment to addressing climate change through the implementation of the historic Paris Climate Agreement.

We want the US economy to be energy efficient and powered by low-carbon energy. Cost-effective and innovative solutions can help us achieve these objectives. Failure to build a low-carbon economy puts American prosperity at risk. But the right action now will create jobs and boost US competitiveness. We pledge to do our part, in our own operations and beyond, to realize the Paris Agreement’s commitment of a global economy that limits global temperature rise to well below 2 degrees Celsius.
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http://www.lowcarbonusa.org/
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« Reply #844 on: November 16, 2016, 08:11:05 PM »
Sarkozy proposes carbon tax on US goods if Trump scraps Paris climate pact
“Well, I will demand that Europe put in place a carbon tax at its border, a tax of 1-3 per cent, for all products coming from the United States, if the United States doesn’t apply environmental rules that we are imposing on our companies,” he added.

http://m.en.rfi.fr/france/20161114-sarkozy-proposes-carbon-tax-us-goods-if-trump-scraps-paris-climate-pact

I'm not sure that is a good thing, considering the upcoming election in 2017 and Le Pen.

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« Reply #845 on: November 17, 2016, 04:13:43 PM »
Sarkozy proposes carbon tax on US goods if Trump scraps Paris climate pact
“Well, I will demand that Europe put in place a carbon tax at its border, a tax of 1-3 per cent, for all products coming from the United States, if the United States doesn’t apply environmental rules that we are imposing on our companies,” he added.

http://m.en.rfi.fr/france/20161114-sarkozy-proposes-carbon-tax-us-goods-if-trump-scraps-paris-climate-pact

I'm not sure that is a good thing, considering the upcoming election in 2017 and Le Pen.

I dare to hope that statements such as this will illustrate to Trump that there are adverse consequences to his crazy proclamations In Real Life that he didn't think about during his campaign.
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« Reply #846 on: November 17, 2016, 04:15:43 PM »
Australia dubbed 'fossil of the day' after lobbying for coal mine at climate talks
Australia has used a summit on reducing greenhouse gas emissions to lobby the US energy minister in support of the development of one of the world’s largest coalmines.

The move, by the Australian environment and energy minister, Josh Frydenberg, at the Marrekech meeting, won Australia the “fossil of the day” award, announced daily by the Climate Action Network to the countries that perform the worst at UN climate talks.

Awarding the fossil of the day award, the activists said: “Australia ratified the Paris agreement last Friday, so lobbying for coal expansion at the United Nations climate negotiations is an ugly, ugly thing to be doing. Shape up, Australia.”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/nov/17/australia-dubbed-fossil-of-the-day-after-lobbying-for-coal-mine-at-climate-talks
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« Reply #847 on: November 17, 2016, 06:16:10 PM »
White House Releases Wishful Climate Change Plan Before Trump Takes Office
Secretary of State John Kerry, who spoke earlier on Wednesday in Marrakech, expressed confidence that the U.S. could meet its short-term climate goals under the future administration simply due to market forces that have already driven down costs of renewable energy substantially.

"I can tell you with confidence that the United States is right now, today, on our way to meeting all of the international targets that we've set," said Kerry, "and because of the market decisions that are being made, I do not believe that that can or will be reversed."

But despite that optimism, Kerry expressed urgency about the need for all countries, including the U.S., to take more action. "The world is already changing at an increasingly alarming rate with increasingly alarming consequences," said Kerry. "At some point, even the strongest skeptic has to acknowledge that something disturbing is happening."
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/16112016/climate-change-cop-22-marrakech-global-warming-john-kerry-donald-trump
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« Reply #848 on: November 17, 2016, 06:52:07 PM »
Sarkozy proposes carbon tax on US goods if Trump scraps Paris climate pact
“Well, I will demand that Europe put in place a carbon tax at its border, a tax of 1-3 per cent, for all products coming from the United States, if the United States doesn’t apply environmental rules that we are imposing on our companies,” he added.

http://m.en.rfi.fr/france/20161114-sarkozy-proposes-carbon-tax-us-goods-if-trump-scraps-paris-climate-pact

I'm not sure that is a good thing, considering the upcoming election in 2017 and Le Pen.

I dare to hope that statements such as this will illustrate to Trump that there are adverse consequences to his crazy proclamations In Real Life that he didn't think about during his campaign.

There's a truckload of them out there, he doesn't care about any of them as far as I can see. I'm more concerned about France and how Marine Le Pen will use that to her advantage. She has a better chance, than Trump had, to win that election next year.

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« Reply #849 on: November 18, 2016, 03:42:09 AM »
France is serious about carbon: will stop using coal by 2023, might carbon tax US goods if US pulls out of climate agreements
France will shut down all of their coal power plants by 2023, French President Francois Hollande has announced.  The announcement took place at COP22, the UN’s annual climate change conference happening now in Marrakech.

France has been a leader in non-polluting electricity sources for a long time, with 95% low-carbon sources and 77% nuclear power (page 4, data from 2014), but they still use some fossil fuels for electricity, getting 3% of their power from coal through the month of November so far.  Given that their share of coal for electricity generation has been dropping since the 60s and is now a fairly small amount, it seems likely that France will easily meet their goal of eliminating the power source by 2023.

France is also a world leader in electric cars, with 1.2% market share nationwide as of 2015, which is higher than all other countries except Norway, the Netherlands and Sweden.

Given France’s tough stance on carbon, ex-president Nicolas Sarkozy suggested earlier this week that if the US pulls out of the Paris climate agreement which was reached at least year’s COP21 conference, as the next US president has suggested he might do, France should apply a “carbon import tax” to all US goods.
https://electrek.co/2016/11/17/france-is-serious-about-carbon-will-stop-using-coal-by-2023-might-carbon-tax-us-goods-if-us-pulls-out-of-climate-agreements/
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