I have a question for the "scientific sorts" in the group. I keep hearing that during an El Nino, the Pacific "releases heat" into the atmosphere.
The struggle I have with that...is that I keep thinking that the only way that the ocean can "release heat" into the atmosphere....is IF the surface water is WARMER than the air right above it (whether this occurs in the Arctic...or occurs at the equator....wherever that occurs).
If the surface ocean temperature is 80 degrees F....and the air temperature is 90 degrees F.....the ocean isn't going to be "releasing heat", the atmosphere will be WARMING THE OCEAN slightly.....and the ocean will be "cooling" the atmosphere at the same time.
Now...IF the ocean temperature is 85 degrees F and the air temperature is 80 degrees F....THEN the ocean WOULD BE "warming the atmosphere. Wherever there is a difference between the AIR TEMPERATURE and the OCEAN TEMPERATURE...there will always be a "conflict". If the ocean temperature is cooler than the air temperature....then the ocean will be cooling the air, and the air will be "warming" the ocean.
Now....I understand that the air temperature changes much more quickly than the ocean temperature because water has a much higher capacity to "hold" heat (or cold). And I also understand that the air temperature changes more quickly...AND...the nighttime heat in the atmosphere is far less than the daytime heat.
But I still have a "problem" (maybe lack of intellect:) with hearing that the ocean "releases heat" during an El Nino......when it "seems" to me that the ocean really just "doesn't cool the atmosphere as much as it usually does" because the SST's are warmer. Is this just a "semantic" difference I am struggling with?
Buddy,
I am a civil engineer, and the issue that you raise is sufficiently complex that denialist can create doubts about this matter, so if I add confusion to this matter please excuse me in advance & hopefully DO can add some clarity next week.
That said, the first attached image by Lee et al 2015, shows that during negative PDO periods (as during the recently ended faux hiatus) there are more & stronger La Nina events that contribute to strong trade winds that stock-up so much water ocean water in the Western Tropical Pacific (the Warm Pool) that it leaks through Indonesia and pours into the Southern Ocean (which has been heating faster than any other ocean in the world). One of the major reasons why the trade winds get reinforced is because there is a warm to cool/west to east gradient in the Tropical Pacific to begin with. If all of the warmest water is forced to the west by the trade winds, then the surface pressures there are lower, since warmer, moist air has the tendency to rise, which decreases the surface pressure. In order to balance out the rising air and subsequent lowering of surface pressure, air from higher pressure (cold waters to the east where sinking motions are more prevalent) has to flow towards that area in the west. If that Tropical Pacific Ocean thermal gradient is stronger, there is more of an imbalance, meaning the flow of air towards that warmer western water would increase — meaning stronger trade winds. But a weakening of the gradient (due to an Equatorial Kelvin Wave, EKW, trigger in the ocean by westerly wind bursts, WWBs) weakens this imbalance, which weakens the warm water flow towards the west. This serves to slow the trade winds. Thus during an El Nino event, the trade winds slowing helps more warm water to push eastward to begin with via EKWs and westerly wind bursts — so this warm water also downwells — and by the time it upwells further east, it is relatively warm, reinforcing the warm SST anomaly that weakened the gradient and weakened the trade winds to begin with. The cycle is continuous, and a Bjerknes feedback is generated (see the second attached image).
By this line of reasoning you can see that more La Nina events (during negative PDO phases) sequester more heat into the Southern Ocean; while more El Nino events (during positive PDO/IPO phases and also with more Global Warming), you can see that more warm surface water is left in the Eastern Tropical Pacific Ocean. However (as I said previously) warmer ocean surface is a larger vapor-pressure difference between the sea surface and the adjacent atmosphere, resulting in more evaporation, and more up-drafting (upward convection) of warm moist air into the upper atmosphere (particularly near the equatorial International Dateline as shown in the third image, but also from the Eastern Equatorial Pacific as shown in the fourth image).
Thus you can see that the transfer of energy from the ocean to the atmosphere during strong El Nino events is dominated by how easily water evaporates from the ocean (which is dominating by the temperature of the water) and not by direct heat transfer from an ocean that is warmer than the atmosphere.
Best,
ASLR