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Re: The Hyperloop
« Reply #50 on: November 08, 2016, 04:42:00 PM »
Amazing concept video at the link!  Note the (display screen?) depiction of the view outside as the pod travels across the desert -- the Hyperloop tubes are metal, so that's not a window....  :)   I suppose such a display system could come in handy to hide a future hellish landscape.  ;)

Hyperloop One unveils its entire system, announces deal to bring network to Dubai
But now we are talking about bringing a full passenger and cargo system, first between Dubai and Abu Dhabi, and it will later likely connect with other Emirate. While Hyperloop One’s previous government deals appeared to be all about “exploring” the implementation of hyperloop systems, this one with Dubai seems to really about bringing a system to the Emirate.

The company wrote:

We’ve signed an agreement with RTA Dubai to jointly pursue a passenger and cargo hyperloop network in Dubai and between Dubai and Abu Dhabi and other Emirates. This could reduce the time from Dubai to Abu Dhabi to 12 minutes.
https://electrek.co/2016/11/08/hyperloop-one-unveils-system-announces-deal-bring-network-dubai/
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Re: The Hyperloop
« Reply #51 on: November 11, 2016, 02:15:44 AM »
Hyperloop One explores setting up high-speed transport system in Finland, Netherlands, Dubai
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/10/hyperloop-one-finland-netherlands-dubai-setting-up-high-speed-transport-system.html
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Re: The Hyperloop
« Reply #52 on: November 16, 2016, 02:57:26 AM »
Hyperloop One installs the first tube of its ‘DevLoop’ in Las Vegas – it’s really happening
In another “it’s really happening” moment with the hyperloop following the announcement of a new system in development in Dubai, Hyperloop One announced today that it installed the very first tube of its “DevLoop” in North Las Vegas.

In order to truly understand the significance of this event, you need to consider that if they complete this ‘DevLoop’, which looks on its way to become the first full-scale hyperloop system, they will have technically created a new mode of transportation.

That’s a fairly rare event throughout human history. Whether it ever become a commercially viable mode of transport is another issue, which is being investigated for deployment between Dubai and Abu Dhabi, but even if it’s just the development system that ends up being functional – I would argue that it’s still a significant accomplishment.
https://electrek.co/2016/11/15/hyperloop-one-first-tube-devloop-las-vegas/
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Re: The Hyperloop
« Reply #53 on: December 02, 2016, 12:21:06 AM »
That other Hyperloop company, called Hyperloop Transportation Technologies, Inc. (HTT).

Hyperloop startup announces $30 million investment, claims total raised over $100 million based on some unconventional math
https://electrek.co/2016/12/01/hyperloop-startup-investment/
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Re: The Hyperloop
« Reply #54 on: January 30, 2017, 03:37:43 AM »
Tunnels for the hyperloop.

Elon Musk speaks about Hyperloop and tunneling at SpaceX’s Hyperloop Pod Competition
SpaceX held a Hyperloop Pod Competition this weekend at their facility in Hawthorne, CA, and earlier today Elon gave the crowd a short speech talking about transportation innovation, efficiency, and his new “boring” company focused on building tunnels to alleviate traffic, showing that his recent focus on tunnels is probably related to how he sees hyperloop developing as underground, rather than overground, transport.

The main point from Elon’s speech is that he sees a necessity of transportation becoming “3D.” Since buildings are already 3D, in that you can have one building tens of stories tall, all filled with people, who often want to get there and leave at the same time (at the start and end of a business day), then it’s hard to accommodate all of those people on a 2D road network.  This leads us to the idea that we need to have 3D transportation, either above-ground or underground. While elevated trains are certainly possible, Elon, in the speech, stated that “you have to go either up or down…I think probably down.”

To achieve this, Elon stated that he sees as a possibility of increasing the speed of tunneling by 5-10x, which of course would reduce associated costs and build times for infrastructure projects – including train, car and hyperloop tunnels.  Elon didn’t make it clear where exactly he sees these possible improvements, but stated that it comes from a “limit of physics” approach, a mentality he’s used before in reference to gigafactory production.  But Elon also states that “we have no idea what we’re doing” when it comes to building boring machines, so we’ll have to wait to see if those numbers are achievable.

You can see a little more video from the competition, including a livestream if it’s still up, here: http://www.spacex.com/hyperloop

And Elon’s full speech, which is just 4 minutes long, [video in the article]
https://electrek.co/2017/01/29/elon-musk-speaks-hyperloop-tunneling-at-spacexs-hyperloop-pod-competition/
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Re: The Hyperloop
« Reply #55 on: February 07, 2017, 09:11:24 PM »
Australia Parliament committee recommends Hyperloop technology as alternative to high-speed rails
The Committee on Infrastructure, Transport and Cities’ created by Australia’s Parliament has recommended the government to explore the use of Hyperloop technology as an alternative to investing in high speed rail systems. Australia is two thirds the size of the United States with vast distances between its major cities. Ultraspeed Australia’s Sean Duggan says the Hyperloop could create a network of “30-minute cities.”
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The Committee on Infrastructure, Transport and Cities’ report to Parliament says the Hyperloop would allow passengers to travel between Sydney and Melbourne in less than one hour. Today, that trip requires 12 hours by train or 9 hours 30 minutes by car.  Hyperloop One suggests a pod in a “superluxe” configuration could carry 24 people, 50 people if configured for business class travelers, or 90 in economy mode. Pods will be much smaller than rail cars and could operate more frequently with far fewer passengers. ...
http://www.teslarati.com/australia-parliament-committee-recommends-hyperloop-technology-alternative-high-speed-rails/
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« Reply #56 on: March 08, 2017, 01:57:00 PM »
Hyperloop One: images of the first Hyperloop full scale test track released
In another “it’s actually happening” moment with the hyperloop today, we get an updated look at what is probably the most advanced hyperloop system developed so far. We saw SpaceX’s test track earlier this year, but the mile-long tube that the rocket company built is only meant for testing propulsion systems and it isn’t full-scale.

Hyperloop One’s track in Nevada is the first that could support a full-scale pod to carry people and cargo. The company released the first pictures of their progress since installing the first tube last November.

Rob Lloyd, CEO of Hyperloop One, is in Dubai today for the Middle East Rail conference. The company has seen strong interest in the region and announced a deal last year to bring the first hyperloop network to Dubai.

For the occasion, the CEO unveiled the first image of what they are calling the “DevLoop” – a hyperloop test track.

The final version is supposed to be 1-mile-long, but it currently stretches on 500 meters in the Nevada desert. The tube measures 3.3 meters in diameter and the entire Hyperloop test structure weighs over one million kilograms....
https://electrek.co/2017/03/07/hyperloop-picture-full-scale-test-track/
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Re: The Hyperloop
« Reply #57 on: March 08, 2017, 08:51:50 PM »
Australia Parliament committee recommends Hyperloop technology as alternative to high-speed rails
The Committee on Infrastructure, Transport and Cities’ created by Australia’s Parliament has recommended the government to explore the use of Hyperloop technology as an alternative to investing in high speed rail systems. Australia is two thirds the size of the United States with vast distances between its major cities. Ultraspeed Australia’s Sean Duggan says the Hyperloop could create a network of “30-minute cities.”
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The Committee on Infrastructure, Transport and Cities’ report to Parliament says the Hyperloop would allow passengers to travel between Sydney and Melbourne in less than one hour. Today, that trip requires 12 hours by train or 9 hours 30 minutes by car.  Hyperloop One suggests a pod in a “superluxe” configuration could carry 24 people, 50 people if configured for business class travelers, or 90 in economy mode. Pods will be much smaller than rail cars and could operate more frequently with far fewer passengers. ...
http://www.teslarati.com/australia-parliament-committee-recommends-hyperloop-technology-alternative-high-speed-rails/


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Re: The Hyperloop
« Reply #58 on: March 09, 2017, 12:12:30 AM »

Let's create more stuff that only the rich can use.....

I have no idea how much it will be to use. I am rather sceptical of it being cheaper than high speed rail. Why would it be cheaper? Seems like a lot of r&d needed and probably more expensive infrastructure in order to save some air resistance.

But if it provides an alternative to air travel that is pretty much restricted to using ff for power density reasons. Faster and less reliance on ff sound like nice benefits but will costs escalate and kill this? If it gets that only the rich can afford it then it has no chance of getting the volume of usage needed to make it pay and not much will get built.

I am concerned that costs will soar, but if Elon Musk is convinced enough to start 'the boring company' then who knows? He is much more likely to have got his calculations correct than I am.

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« Reply #59 on: March 11, 2017, 02:03:49 PM »
The Hyperloop is expected to employ permanent magnets for levitation, meaning forward momentum will be maintained with very little, and brief, energy input.  Solar power will do nicely.  And the passenger or freight cost is expected to be quite reasonable.

Rail travel is relatively energy efficient and offers the most environmentally friendly option, but is too slow and expensive to be massively adopted. At distances less than 900 miles, supersonic travel is unfeasible, as most of the journey would be spent ascending and descending (the slowest parts of a flight.) Given these issues, the Hyperloop aims to make a cost-effective, high speed transportation system for use at moderate distances. As an example of the right type of distance, Musk uses the route from San Francisco to L.A. (a route the high-speed rail system will also cover). The Hyperloop tubes would have solar panels installed on the roof, allowing for a clean and self-powering system.

Realistically, the most important problem in getting any project off the ground is money, doubly so when talking about a public work. Even if one can produce an impressive blueprint, there are still issues of public approval, legislation, regulations, and contractors to worry about. Fortunately, The Hyperloop would be a cost-saving measure, especially when measured against the corpulent rail project currently underway. Musk’s white paper for the Hyperloop estimates the total cost could be kept under six billion dollars. Meanwhile, phase one of the California high-speed rail project is expected to cost at least $68 billion.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/hyperloop-news/
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