Per suggestion of Neven, I have moved my posts on forum visitation promotion over here.
Reply #1123 on: November 07, 2015, 03:07:23 PM »
other channels are ok, we may reach a broader audience?
Good idea. Google search does a poor job on our forums, just reports plain text so makes us look like hackers on a private IRC. We need to fix that or mirror completely onto open .net or .com Going back six months and looking at hits, we are not getting nearly as much outreach as we could be.http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php?action=stats
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I noticed in your first youtube, there was no link into your forum pages on that glacier?
Have you set up a dedicated youtube channel for Greenland glaciers? That would be them all together for viewing related.
Twitter is capable of showing small animations but do you know the maximal or recommended pixel width and height sizes? Supported file formats?
You are welcome to re-use or re-purpose any or all of my posts. Just link back to forum though. Best to use tinyurl.com to shorten links.
Reply #1130 on: November 07, 2015, 08:11:50 PM »
inviting scientists to participate. Few did
The thing to do might be invite known outreach-inclined scientists to submit signed guest pieces to the appropriate forums. For example it would be very timely to invite commentary -- or even host a round-table -- on the Zwally paper on Antarctica mass balance. We have a forum going already to put it in.
There are lots of scientists who work in this area just itching for a more dignified space and better message control than they get from newspaper quotes but want it one-off with no ongoing commitment.
Here I envision Neven as chief dignitary issuing the email invitation and if interest is expressed, passing them off to a specific forum editor (here AbruptSLR) who in turn might pass off a submission to a graphics, copy-editor and blog-htmler for forum-compatible formatting. This way the scientist need not register for the site nor learn arcane rules of blog syntax.
Invitations would not actually involve to extra work for Neven but originate from a forum editor. I would be willing to draw up an email template (bait) that might engage a typical scientist. The key thing there is exhibiting some depth in the subject and a specific focus of interest.
It might make sense to offer an honorarium (100 euros?) as it is work to write these pieces and we do have an agenda in getting good content and more traffic. For that though, they should agree to answer questions (maximum of 3) that registered members might have after reading the guest piece.
let you (A-Team) do the invitation to a new thread exploring ways to get the message out to a wider audience?
No way, José. I have not kept up with social media at all. Nor the latest tricks for getting noticed by Google search.
Reply #1127 on: November 07, 2015, 05:04:36 PM »
Maybe a separate forum to discuss/promote forum visibility?
I also wonder how to get more card-carrying climate scientists to use the site to post news. Right now we just have two. Separate forum? Member questions allowed? Separately moderated (screened for tedious, argumentative, unworthy)? They do not have a lot of time to waste on dumb questions and disputes with know-it-alls. At the same time, they don't have a common area right now other than a few scattered twitter sites, personal blogs, skeptical science etc. Registration is a barrier for a lot of people.
The Jakobshavn thread is getting 161241/1124 = 143 views per post (averaging back to start-up on March 23, 2013). Even rescaling for growth over the years, this only gets bumped to 295 views per post currently. How many views for 'Chasing Ice' at youTube? The interest is out there but linking to forum followup is not.
3.3 953305 views Oct 2015
2.5 718974 views Oct 2014
1.0 291574 views Oct 2013
Reply #1133 on: November 07, 2015, 09:13:48 PM »
every 'Certificate Authority' in the world has been multiply compromised
Right. And if "Leave it in the Ground" ever picks up steam, they will pick up everyone posting here and put them in Yuma Territorial Prison for the duration of global warming.
they can't even see the graphics w/o registration
The very first thing to fix, be that here on WordPress or mirroring the best stuff on a .net
Good to distinguish between activism-type forums, news forums, science journal news forums and content creation. There is a lot of copy/paste going around but somewhere somehow someone actually has to research substantive content in the first place. Or if not that, at least add value. And that is the real key to returning, engaged, better informed visitation.
I am primarily on the value-added side. Once in a while I put up some worthwhile content. This fall, I have plans to kick some serious Petermann butt. Beyond that, I have firm commitments far into the future:
how many gig of image and video are on this site now, anyway ? i'm trying to figger how much storage for a mirror. I might be able to help. But perhaps take this to a separate thread, rather than add to this one ?
Yes, somewhere in the The forum category, perhaps here. Dungeonmaster probably knows https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,13.msg58608.html#msg58608
That looks like as good a place as any. Let's move the non-Jakobshavn thread over there and delete here.
A mirror would be great. Something plain that worked for google search and also linked back here. We have quite a bit of eye candy in the animations that could catch people's interest. However more clicks doesn't bring more (any) ad revenue, relatively few people want more in depth climate change, more registrants brings more trolls.
The gigs will add up. There could be issues in the graphics between true file width x height and what the forumware does with them.
What about that archive service (personal wayback machine), what does that do on these pages? I tried it on this very page ... wow, it seems to work right out of the box (3rd link below). Allows .zip download too.http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,154.msg65822.htmlhttps://archive.is/https://archive.is/IxK6k
Another idea: instead of watching paint dry in the off-season (PIOMAS), how about Neven doing an annual round robin on highlights from the forums? That would put the better links and animations out on the higher visibility Arctic Sea Ice to entice people to come into the forums.