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Re: What Would a Donald Trump Presidency Mean to Combating AGW/CC
« Reply #250 on: November 23, 2016, 06:52:08 PM »
I like your passion and enthusiasm.  We will need more of it in the coming months.

For sure.  I don't think that Trump knows what is coming his way.  Remember....he is used to running a SMALL ORGANIZATION.  This is NOT GE we're talking about.  He is used to getting HIS WAY....and everyone smiling and giving him adulation......he says frog, and people ask "how high".  THAT....is not what he is going to get from 70% of the electorate.  Remember....there are a LOT of people who didn't vote for Trump.  There is a LOT of HATE FOR HIM. 

But the men you listed, and their brethren, are not embarrassed by facts and intellectual arguments.  They all operate in the world of CT and the presumption that anyone not of the "conservative" or far right mindset is automatically the enemy and is invalid.  Having these folks in power is exactly what the US and world do not need right now.

I agree that they don't care about facts and intellectual arguments.  But I think you may be surprised as more and more people mock them and make fun of them...and as more and more people "jump ship" off the denial train.  It doesn't happen at once....but it continues to happen slowly.  Bill O'Reilly is just the latest person to jump off that train to nowhere.  But again...we are talking about people with BIG EGO'S...and just like Trump....he HATES BEING LAUGHED AT.  HE HATES IT.  And these folks will become the butt of jokes as time continues to pass.

The rest of the world is passing them by....and their attempt to save the coal industry, or save the oil industry WILL NOT WORK.....THE ECONOMICS DON'T MAKE SENSE.  THAT...is what is killing it, and will continue to kill fossil fuels.






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« Reply #251 on: November 23, 2016, 10:58:32 PM »
Re NASA and Bob Walkers statement. I'm amazed by the silence in here.

It's hard to say much when you're projectile vomiting.  ;D

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« Reply #252 on: November 24, 2016, 01:56:32 AM »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-environment_us_5833a0bbe4b099512f84763a

"It's official: Donald Trump's first hundred days will be horrible for the planet."

"He's writing his legacy in the first few weeks" 'The president who thought climate change was a hoax.'"


It is the same video that Budmantis posted before, but I have to say that I like the headline on the Washington Post: "Trump wants to lift restrictions on ‘clean coal.’ Whatever that is.". Also, it is good to read the article:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/11/22/trump-wants-to-lift-restrictions-on-clean-coal-whatever-that-is/?utm_term=.d1fd6b8b2487&wpisrc=nl_green&wpmm=1
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« Reply #253 on: November 24, 2016, 06:31:02 AM »
Re NASA and Bob Walkers statement. I'm amazed by the silence in here.

It's hard to say much when you're projectile vomiting.  ;D
Use a bucket, keep anything off the keyboard but your fingers. ;)

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« Reply #254 on: November 24, 2016, 06:38:44 AM »
Re NASA and Bob Walkers statement. I'm amazed by the silence in here.

It's hard to say much when you're projectile vomiting.  ;D
Use a bucket, keep anything off the keyboard but your fingers. ;)

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« Reply #255 on: November 24, 2016, 08:04:01 AM »
Re NASA and Bob Walkers statement. I'm amazed by the silence in here.

It's hard to say much when you're projectile vomiting.  ;D
Use a bucket, keep anything off the keyboard but your fingers. ;)

And be sure to keep a barf bag handy, just in case!

At least we can be happy USofD(umbfu...stan) is going to fall behind in getting profits from sensible energy production. Haha.
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Re: What Would a Donald Trump Presidency Mean to Combating AGW/CC
« Reply #256 on: November 30, 2016, 03:16:03 PM »
This is why I am not as concerned as some folks.....that Trump will be able to trash the environment:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/bertelschmitt/2016/11/30/akio-toyoda-puts-himself-and-3-lieutenants-in-charge-of-electric-car-drive/#383d5c2d9c12

Toyota is just the latest to seriously join the bandwagon of EV transportation.  As this continues to grow.....fossil fuel will be left behind.

Don't get me wrong....I don't think Trump will have NO EFFECT on the environment.  He will have a negative effect.  But as far as slowing down the move to renewable energy.....that train has left the station and there is no way to stop it.  Slow it down slightly in the US.....yes.  But businesses are moving too fast into that arena to slow it down much.  Dimwit Donnie doesn't see it....but businesses do.

Energy and transportation costs will continue to come down in coming years.  Now....200+ miles will be the standard minimum like the Bolt.  I expect that to expand to 300....400....500 in coming years.  And when that is coupled with more and more energy generation at HOME.....there is just too much power behind that move.....the power of ECONOMICS.

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« Reply #257 on: December 11, 2016, 11:01:51 AM »
https://twitter.com/EricHolthaus/status/807802102416228352

Of course you may also want to archive the data to your home computer, preferably to one that's not in the internet, and alter the data headers for potential cyber attacks.
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Re: What Would a Donald Trump Presidency Mean to Combating AGW/CC
« Reply #258 on: December 14, 2016, 07:37:19 PM »
Here's a good video from the Jimmy Dore Show talking about the appointment of T-Rex Tillerson as Sec of State:

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« Reply #259 on: January 17, 2017, 03:38:08 PM »
At a macro level, IMO this is a good representation of the overwhelming momentum with renewables and market forces.  The FF industries and their cronies will certainly have new life injected from a Trump admin, but it will just be an unfortunate bump in the journey towards the future of energy. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/not-even-trump-can-easily-reverse-our-progress-on-climate-change/2017/01/16/3d719356-dc25-11e6-ad42-f3375f271c9c_story.html?utm_term=.1269b8771d98

At a micro or local level, this an example of the tangible harm that Trump can enable with the extreme anti-environment and climate change denying GOP mindset.  The freedom to pollute and exploit resources is more important to the GOP than conserving and caring for the world around us.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/trumps-nominee-to-head-epa-has-opposed-the-chesapeake-bay-cleanup/2017/01/16/a881d408-d90a-11e6-b8b2-cb5164beba6b_story.html?hpid=hp_local-news_bayclean-715pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.b9dc8b1f61d5

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Re: What Would a Donald Trump Presidency Mean to Combating AGW/CC
« Reply #260 on: January 21, 2017, 08:49:12 AM »
Denying there's a problem doesn't erase the problem. I think I'll yse this thread for politics since Turnip... Sorry Trump Drumpfkopf is not my president and not the president of the majority of the USA voters. The asshole should be removed from office if he at anytime finds it. Already he's lied about being the president for all people in US by removing facts from the white house website. My advice for politicians everywhere outside USA or rather DSM denierland is to not talk with so called US government officials on anything, or if it can't be avoided, use the Monty Python argument clinic methods with them to show the error of their ways.
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« Reply #261 on: January 22, 2017, 04:14:47 AM »
Aww how cute to defend proper language, it would be time to start ignoring people on the forum. Just to inform some who might be legitimately offended of my posts.

Please someone paint the White House black with coal dust on everyone in there a bit like in this false negative.
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« Reply #262 on: January 22, 2017, 07:28:05 PM »
So we have this - no surprise of course, and the Saudis and others have rightfully waived this off, given how the global markets (currently) operate.  I've been cognizant of presidents talking about breaking away from Mideast oil since Carter, and realized since Bush the Elder that it was all a sham.  Only difference now is we'll get to observe the folly of this effort on steroids, while renewables and transformational technology continue to create escape velocity from FF. 

"Just after his inauguration on Friday, Trump said he was “committed to achieving energy independence from the OPEC cartel and any nations hostile to our interests,” by exploiting “vast untapped domestic energy reserves”, according to a plan posted on the White House website."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-22/opec-shrugs-off-threat-of-trump-s-america-cutting-oil-imports

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« Reply #263 on: February 02, 2017, 07:24:09 AM »
The goal of shaving off 80 years off the dominant Gregorian calendar is proceeding with vigour. The great Trumpistan calendar will be announced exactly as planned. It'll be great, says the glorious leader. EPA is ordered to reset their numbers accordingly, thus they'll be essential in solving the issues about negros Trumpistan has recently had. Applied laws will be those of the new date, adapting the newer laws if they're deemed worthy by the People's represemtatives. That people are not People should be obvious.

(one humorist here said recently it's not anymore possible to be ironic/sarcastic for the reality is too much so)
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« Reply #264 on: February 02, 2017, 08:50:29 AM »
Perhaps you're thinking of: "No matter how cynical you become, it's never enough to keep up."

From the inimitable Lily Tomlin, recently recognized for a lifetime achievement award.
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« Reply #265 on: February 03, 2017, 04:05:36 AM »
The always helpful negroes, the democrats, have come up with a proposal for a new flag for Trumpistan. This is all great, says the glorious leader. He will assign floggers for the mealymouthed jokesters. However, he thinks a new flag would be good for the land, the old one is over 200 years of age and all greatness has vanished from it during the false pretenders to the throne. Thus El Magnifico Presidente proclaims a competition to those in Trumpistan who can color a flag-shaped area without crossing borders, as this is prohibited, and personally selects via flag-selection committee the new flag for Trumpistan. As a warning to those trying to subtly mock the glorious leader, the offending flag is presented here. The good citicens may propose it again giving the symbols their proper meaning, and not those presented and not told here. Flogging will ensue if you do so.
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Re: What's new in Trumpistan
« Reply #266 on: February 03, 2017, 05:52:04 AM »
The always helpful negroes, the democrats, have come up with a proposal for a new flag for Trumpistan. This is all great, says the glorious leader. He will assign floggers for the mealymouthed jokesters. However, he thinks a new flag would be good for the land, the old one is over 200 years of age and all greatness has vanished from it during the false pretenders to the throne. Thus El Magnifico Presidente proclaims a competition to those in Trumpistan who can color a flag-shaped area without crossing borders, as this is prohibited, and personally selects via flag-selection committee the new flag for Trumpistan. As a warning to those trying to subtly mock the glorious leader, the offending flag is presented here. The good citicens may propose it again giving the symbols their proper meaning, and not those presented and not told here. Flogging will ensue if you do so.

it's too nice, trumbistan diservers an ugly flag IMO :-)
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« Reply #267 on: February 06, 2017, 12:10:28 PM »
Leaked memo:
It appears that some foreign individuals in Comores or maybe communists want their land bombed to ocean, we are aware they're voiced some concerns about sea level rise due the nonexistant global warming, but we are happy to hasten the process. This is a aggrandissement (long words we can!) and an outstanding example of why the wall must be built.

https://whytrumpisgreat.com/
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« Reply #268 on: February 14, 2017, 08:28:01 AM »
Qummuneeque:
While We the President gladly welcome the fact that a negro democrat of West Virginia, Joe Man-Ching, has voted for the appointed chum of us to be the holdee of treasury, we still remind the law-obedient People of Trumpistan that the so called Senate is unlawful as it accepts also negros as voters. This should be corrected with the voter-suppression methods commonly used in the more loyal parts of the country.
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« Reply #269 on: February 14, 2017, 03:46:05 PM »
In a matter of weeks/months (likely months).....the title of this thread needs to be changed:

"What would a Paul Ryan presidency mean to combating AGW/CC?"

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« Reply #270 on: February 16, 2017, 08:07:37 AM »
With joy we note the offer of the temporary senate member Chuck Schumer to vote for the correct party in the next elections. He talks of 'bipartisanship' like it was a thing. He can rest assured we take up his offer to whiten his skin. However, if he does this, he'll be a traitor, and we do not deal with traitors. Chucky chum, let's get back to your infiltrationous ways of doing pollitics after midterms. You maybe a good laddie, but you really should know better that it's all the way or no way. You're however welcome to build the wall, but I'm afraid we can't afford to give you any machinery since your position on CC. Please report to your work-duty to Flynn, he's now in charge of the manual labor on the camp.
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« Reply #271 on: March 14, 2017, 01:05:52 PM »
The beloved Trumpistan leader notifies his subjects from this day on use of microwaves is forbidden. Be it cooking, cheffing, or measuring ice with chinese adjusted satellites. Melting is also forbidden. In fact, best you trash your old micro waves and buy a new secure one from the importer daughter. Those are great.
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