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Lowest yearly rise of CO2 in the Mauna Loa observatory monthly record in year 2017 :

<0 ppm (to cover all bases)
0 (0%)
+0-0.75 ppm (speedy worldwide trumpian economic meltdown + very positive natural factors)
0 (0%)
+0.75-1.25 ppm (first realistic one imho)
1 (2.3%)
+1.25-1.67 ppm (setting the true poll boxes to 0.33333333ppm)
5 (11.6%)
+1.67-2.00 ppm
4 (9.3%)
+2.00-2.33 ppm
7 (16.3%)
+2.33-2.67 ppm
10 (23.3%)
+2.67-3.00 ppm
7 (16.3%)
+3.00-3.33 ppm
3 (7%)
+3.33-3.67 ppm
1 (2.3%)
>3.67 ppm (current value)
5 (11.6%)

Total Members Voted: 43

Voting closes: April 13, 2017, 06:07:11 AM

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crandles

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Re: 2017 Mauna Loa CO2
« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2017, 03:04:38 PM »

When I look at this chart and see the trends, particularly the amazing spikes that occur during El Ninos followed by dramatic pull backs, I have to wonder if we are underestimating the ability of the planet to heal itself through natural processes. Could a planet wide effort by humans to green the planet along with a cessation of CO2 emissions put us on path to stable atmospheric CO2 levels and set the stage for reductions sooner then we currently think possible?

I'm grasping for straws here.  :-[

We don't seems very good at reforestation. :-[

Other possible straws include:

Perhaps covering deserts with solar panels might stop plants wilting in the heat allow roots to grow and reduce soil erosion.

Less Arctic ice means lots more heat loss from planet during Arctic winter?

Other ideas welcome but perhaps better futures thread would be a better place?

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Re: 2017 Mauna Loa CO2
« Reply #51 on: March 17, 2017, 08:26:16 PM »
2016 data, but still....

"China CO2 emissions from fossil fuels down 1%, US down 3%  & EU flat says @IEA - global emissions flat for 3rd yr in a row"
https://twitter.com/jschmidtnrdc/status/842779914298449920

"This matters. But this is like smoker holding steady at 3 packs a day—emissions are still accumulating in the atmosphere at record rates."
https://twitter.com/ericholthaus/status/842781585334190081

Carbon Dioxide Is Rising at Record Rates
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/carbon-dioxide-record-rates-21242
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ritter

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Re: 2017 Mauna Loa CO2
« Reply #52 on: March 17, 2017, 10:12:06 PM »
2016 data, but still....

"China CO2 emissions from fossil fuels down 1%, US down 3%  & EU flat says @IEA - global emissions flat for 3rd yr in a row"
https://twitter.com/jschmidtnrdc/status/842779914298449920

"This matters. But this is like smoker holding steady at 3 packs a day—emissions are still accumulating in the atmosphere at record rates."
https://twitter.com/ericholthaus/status/842781585334190081

Carbon Dioxide Is Rising at Record Rates
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/carbon-dioxide-record-rates-21242


So, CO2 rising at record rates while major economies are reducing rates. Attributable to feedbacks?

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Re: 2017 Mauna Loa CO2
« Reply #53 on: March 17, 2017, 10:50:29 PM »
2016 data, but still....

"China CO2 emissions from fossil fuels down 1%, US down 3%  & EU flat says @IEA - global emissions flat for 3rd yr in a row"
https://twitter.com/jschmidtnrdc/status/842779914298449920

"This matters. But this is like smoker holding steady at 3 packs a day—emissions are still accumulating in the atmosphere at record rates."
https://twitter.com/ericholthaus/status/842781585334190081

Carbon Dioxide Is Rising at Record Rates
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/carbon-dioxide-record-rates-21242


So, CO2 rising at record rates while major economies are reducing rates. Attributable to feedbacks?

Feedbacks most likely, but it could also be nations lying about their statistics.

Pmt111500

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Re: 2017 Mauna Loa CO2
« Reply #54 on: March 21, 2017, 06:00:16 AM »
Last Week, March 12 - 18, 2017,
407.06 ppm
(+2.37 ppm from)
1 Year Ago, March 12 - 18, 2016
404.69 ppm
(2017 is +22.67 ppm from)
10 Years Ago, March 12 - 18, 2005

(sarc) "HAH! they continue to use 2005 not 2007! This proves the hoax! Scientists are not allowed to make typos in automatically generated texts so this action was planned in 1882, now if we could only find the 8remnants of the eruption machine at Capt. Nemo's place in Indonesia" (/sarc)

384.39 ppm

« Last Edit: March 21, 2017, 06:43:17 AM by Pmt111500 »
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Re: 2017 Mauna Loa CO2
« Reply #55 on: March 22, 2017, 12:48:54 AM »
On an hourly basis, CO2 reached 410 ppm over the weekend—likely for the first time in human history.

https://twitter.com/co2_earth/status/844183597678383107
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Re: 2017 Mauna Loa CO2
« Reply #56 on: March 22, 2017, 12:51:07 AM »
"current CO2 about 3 months ahead of last year. Another way of describing the constant increase I suppose"
https://twitter.com/rms5539/status/844226907088601088
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Re: 2017 Mauna Loa CO2
« Reply #57 on: March 29, 2017, 11:38:55 AM »
Weekly CO2 Mauna Loa Observatory | NOAA-ESRL
Period Week Atmospheric CO2
Last Week March 12 - 18, 2017 407.06 ppm
1 Year Ago March 12 - 18, 2016 404.69 ppm
10 Years Ago March 12 - 18, 2005 384.39 ppm

There it still is. 5 -> 7. Now I did check the number from the primary source and it is for the 2007. It does not look good to have the coding error remaining on the site. https://www.co2.earth Hello.
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Re: 2017 Mauna Loa CO2
« Reply #58 on: March 29, 2017, 12:09:51 PM »
Weekly CO2 Mauna Loa Observatory | NOAA-ESRL
Period Week Atmospheric CO2
Last Week March 12 - 18, 2017 407.06 ppm
1 Year Ago March 12 - 18, 2016 404.69 ppm
10 Years Ago March 12 - 18, 2005 384.39 ppm

There it still is. 5 -> 7. Now I did check the number from the primary source and it is for the 2007. It does not look good to have the coding error remaining on the site. https://www.co2.earth Hello.

Relevant page is
https://www.co2.earth/weekly-co2
and their contact email is
stabilization at co2.earth
have you emailed them?

Meanwhile https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/weekly.html is more up to date
Week beginning on March 19, 2017:     406.77 ppm
Weekly value from 1 year ago:     405.37 ppm
Weekly value from 10 years ago:     385.28 ppm
Just 1.4 up and March might end up just up 2?
« Last Edit: March 29, 2017, 02:12:59 PM by crandles »

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Re: 2017 Mauna Loa CO2
« Reply #59 on: March 29, 2017, 01:56:37 PM »
Yep. Email has been sent. You may try yourself too. I just like that site. Thanks for the other link. World needs to watch this.
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