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Wow, what's going on there!?
But then how do they come up with a total number?
So this will probably be revised tomorrow?
Good morning,I'm not sure how the refined calculation method by Jaxa affects things re: the data - the same trends are there and we knew it was bad. We're never going to get zero ice cover in the Arctic - that isn't finely the point - but the fact that the figures are revised downard by some 10% on the former calculated minimum for 2012 might jolt some deniers into a greater level of concern as they see the inevitable consequences grow that much closer.
Does anyone know if the phantom ice South of Alaska is counted?
Quote from: Acts5v29 on September 06, 2013, 12:16:04 PM... the fact that the figures are revised downard by some 10% on the former calculated minimum for 2012 might jolt some deniers into a greater level of concern as they see the inevitable consequences grow that much closer.The most vocal of the deniers will not react this way. They will view the downward revision as further evidence that the scientific community is gaming the numbers in order to frighten the public.
... the fact that the figures are revised downard by some 10% on the former calculated minimum for 2012 might jolt some deniers into a greater level of concern as they see the inevitable consequences grow that much closer.
Do we have a refreeze?
There's a high over the Beaufort Sea alright, but perhaps it is too big, reaching all the way to the Siberian coast. High-pressure systems make for clear skies, and with temperatures dropping, this causes sea water to release its heat so that it can freeze up. If sea water in the Siberian seas freezes up, sea ice extent won't be going any lower. The pressure gradient over the ice pack is also lower, which means less wind to compact the ice pack.This makes me tend to say that the minimum could be reached by Saturday, September 14th, with the caveat that a big low coming in from the Atlantic might invigorate the pressure gradient, causing more compaction where the weakest part of the ice pack is situated.
That's an early update!? Is this the new normal?
I am seeing the opposition is waking up, at least in my backyard, so be prepared!
Quote from: Espen on September 16, 2013, 03:31:32 PMI am seeing the opposition is waking up, at least in my backyard, so be prepared! Sorry Espen. That went over my head.
Now I hear people talking about recovery and +60% sea ice "growth", that is what I meant.
Last year:3319816 km2 (September 18, 2012), up 105k9 the first century of the 2012/2103 winter.