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Espen · « **Reply #750 on:** May 31, 2014, 05:24:20 AM »

IJIS:

11,470,484 km²(May 30, 2014) down 48,639 km² from previous.

4th lowest 2006 (- 210,492 km²), 2010 (-201,661 km^²) and 2011 (-231,946 km²) lower.

Espen · « **Reply #751 on:** May 31, 2014, 10:55:09 AM »

2014 need to speed up over the next week to keep the momentum?

Espen · « **Reply #752 on:** June 01, 2014, 06:45:12 AM »

IJIS:

11,385,455 km² (May 31, 2014) down 85,029 km² from previous.

4th lowest 2006 (- 157,387 km²), 2010 (-266,323 km²) and 2011 (-219,597 km²) lower.

RunningChristo · « **Reply #753 on:** June 01, 2014, 08:47:45 AM »

Shouting in the Woods helps, Espen! I suggest the lag that have been dominating the downward spiral the last 1-2 weks, will turn rather opposite now as we've entered the month of solstice!

Espen · « **Reply #754 on:** June 02, 2014, 05:17:08 AM »

IJIS:

11,314,078 km² (June 1, 2014) down 71,377 km² from previous.

4th lowest 2006 (- 87,060 km²), 2010 (-193,427 km²) and 2011 (-226,946 km²) lower.

Espen · « **Reply #755 on:** June 03, 2014, 06:34:23 AM »

IJIS:

11,261,908 km² (June 2, 2014) down 52,170 km² from previous.

4th lowest 2006 (- 70,033 km²), 2010 (-154,835 km²) and 2011 (-230,788 km²) lower.

Espen · « **Reply #756 on:** June 03, 2014, 04:47:05 PM »

In 3 - 4 days 2014 will face a serious challenge from 2012, interesting too see how 2014 will respond?

Espen · « **Reply #757 on:** June 04, 2014, 05:16:55 AM »

IJIS:

11,212,268 km² (June 3, 2014) down 49,640 km² from previous.

4th lowest 2006 (- 71,248 km²), 2010 (-145,742 km²) and 2011 (-221,875 km²) lower.

Espen · « **Reply #758 on:** June 04, 2014, 04:14:52 PM »

Too slow for the season!

Gray-Wolf · « **Reply #759 on:** June 04, 2014, 05:23:00 PM »

only if you look at the figures without realising what they measure? We have plenty of ice about to go from being sen as ice to being seen as open water (from my glimpses via MODIS) ?

Frivolousz21 · « **Reply #760 on:** June 04, 2014, 06:02:45 PM »

Jaxa has seen almost no ice loss over the Hudson, baffin areas.

Going to be a massive plummet when it finally goes.

Espen · « **Reply #761 on:** June 04, 2014, 06:06:02 PM »

I am just trying to push the numbers!

Espen · « **Reply #762 on:** June 05, 2014, 05:58:09 AM »

IJIS:

11,157,663 km² (June 4, 2014) down 54,605 km² from previous.

4th lowest 2006 (- 52,676 km²), 2010 (-150,909 km²) and 2011 (-180,934 km²) lower.

Espen · « **Reply #763 on:** June 06, 2014, 06:17:56 AM »

IJIS:

11,077,657 km² (June 5, 2014) down 80,006 km² from previous.

4th lowest 2006 (- 11,039 km²), 2010 (-136,714 km²) and 2011 (-139,972 km²) lower.

Espen · « **Reply #764 on:** June 06, 2014, 07:12:57 PM »

Next time I believe we will see the first "real" century of the season?

Espen · « **Reply #765 on:** June 07, 2014, 05:57:08 AM »

IJIS:

11,013,549 km² (June 6, 2014) down 64,108 km² from previous.

3rd lowest 2010 (-177,383 km^²) and 2011 (-134,528 km²).

Espen · « **Reply #766 on:** June 07, 2014, 03:18:33 PM »

The expected century did not show up!

Frivolousz21 · « **Reply #767 on:** June 08, 2014, 03:14:12 AM »

With the Hudson/Baffin retaining so much ice they will come.
All of that ice is going to melt soon enough.

Peter Ellis · « **Reply #768 on:** June 08, 2014, 03:35:08 AM »

Predictions are being noted and will be compared to reality. Your last testable prediction (on June 02) was as follows:

"Expect at least two century drops over the next week."

Tick. Tock.

Frivolousz21 · « **Reply #769 on:** June 08, 2014, 03:44:58 AM »

Quote from: Peter Ellis on June 08, 2014, 03:35:08 AM

Predictions are being noted and will be compared to reality. Your last testable prediction (on June 02) was as follows:

"Expect at least two century drops over the next week."

Tick. Tock.

...snip...

I was wrong, who cares.

...snip...

I am a bad ice forecaster.[/size]

...snip, snip, snip...

What is your point? That I am wrong? I am wrong all the time.

Actually making a prediction requires risk you know to posses the balls to do so.

Risk takers do all of the failing while people like you sit in the corner waiting to show how wrong they are.

...snip...

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edit Neven: I never do this, but I had to snip some parts of this comment. Let's not take things personal, folks, there's room enough for everyone and for lots of things. People want to go out on a limb? Fine. People want to criticize that? Fine too. To paraphrase R.E.M.: Everybody's wrong... sometimes.

Espen · « **Reply #770 on:** June 08, 2014, 05:32:09 AM »

IJIS:

11,012,921 km² (June 7, 2014) down 628 km² from previous. (?)

4th lowest 2006 (- 24,566 km²), 2010 (-257,353 km²) and 2011 (-214,407 km²) lower.

Frivolousz21 · « **Reply #771 on:** June 08, 2014, 05:34:49 AM »

Quote from: Espen on June 08, 2014, 05:32:09 AM

IJIS:

11,012,921 km² (June 7, 2014) down 628 km² from previous. (?)

4th lowest 2006 (- 24,566 km²), 2010 (-257,353 km²) and 2011 (-214,407 km²) lower.

How does 2006 track now? 2014 is surely about to be above 2010-12. But well below 2007.

I think 2005 dropped fast in June and July for how thick the ice was then.

icefest · « **Reply #772 on:** June 08, 2014, 05:39:22 AM »

Quote from: THE ICE KING on June 08, 2014, 05:34:49 AM

How does 2006 track now?

I usually use this to compare how years will do. It may not be 100% accurate but a small error is not a huge problem here.

Frivolousz21 · « **Reply #773 on:** June 08, 2014, 06:22:59 AM »

thanks.

We might fall behind 2005 and 2006 the next few days without a bump downward.

We have 3-4 million of easy ice between the Kara, Barents, Baffin, and Hudson that is typically aiding at least half of the daily drops by now.

We have seen the Chuchki, Laptev, and ESS make up most of that so far.

The unprecedented area of open water continues to expand. The Beaufort side is finally opening up.

If the models are right the Beaufort will get warmth the next 4 days then a huge torch hits the Western CAB/CA/and Beaufort with flushing winds parallel to the NA coast.

Gray-Wolf · « **Reply #774 on:** June 08, 2014, 05:49:01 PM »

I think folk need to bare in mind that the open water is fringed by rubble ice floes. any relaxation of this rubble field spreads ice over 'open water' grids and blinks them back into 'ice covered' on the 15% or more models for extent?

I think today's JAXA is highlighting just such an anom with good melt ongoing in periphery areas but light winds no longer pinning the ice rubble to the ice edge. I do not think it would take much of a relax to 'blink in' the whole of the ice edge currently and in doing so switch 'open water' to ice across a wide front.

Of course ice in open water melts faster than ice against ice.

Ned W · « **Reply #775 on:** June 08, 2014, 07:23:45 PM »

Quote from: Espen on June 08, 2014, 05:32:09 AM

11,012,921 km² (June 7, 2014) down 628 km² from previous. (?)

Hey, unless I'm mistaken, that's an IJIS/JAXA record for the smallest-ever one-day drop in June.

Bob Wallace · « **Reply #776 on:** June 08, 2014, 11:25:50 PM »

Is 628 km2 an wind-spreads-the-ice event?

jdallen · « **Reply #777 on:** June 09, 2014, 12:06:04 AM »

Quote from: Bob Wallace on June 08, 2014, 11:25:50 PM

Is 628 km2 an wind-spreads-the-ice event?

Wind spread event, or adjust-for-melt-ponds event, or a combination of the two, seems to me.

Espen · « **Reply #778 on:** June 09, 2014, 07:00:48 AM »

IJIS:

10,994,683 km² (June 8, 2014) down 18,238 km² from previous.

6th lowest.

maltose · « **Reply #779 on:** June 09, 2014, 07:07:04 AM »

These numbers are really head-scratching. I see the open water starting in the Laptev and the Beaufort concentration maps, but IJIS/JAXA barely moves down. Not sure what make of it...

Gray-Wolf · « **Reply #780 on:** June 09, 2014, 12:54:34 PM »

It'll all come out in the wash! I think it is ice edge 'relaxation' and maybe meltponding getting sorted. we can all see the state of the ice so we know large areas around the pack are on the verge of melting out.

Of course having Deniers make something of it on other sites is a tad irksome........

Quantum · « **Reply #781 on:** June 09, 2014, 08:20:17 PM »

Quote from: Espen on June 09, 2014, 07:00:48 AM

IJIS:

10,994,683 km² (June 8, 2014) down 18,238 km² from previous.

6th lowest.

If I'm not mistaken this puts us in a better position than 2012, 2011, 2010, 2006 and 2004. It was at this point that 2012 'fell off the cliff'. It seems that we have about another week before the losses should really increase on the IJIS. I guess we should be watching the Beaufort and the ESS in particular.

Espen · « **Reply #782 on:** June 10, 2014, 06:30:03 AM »

IJIS:

10,939,861 km² (June 9, 2014) down 54,822 km² from previous.

6th lowest.

Espen · « **Reply #783 on:** June 11, 2014, 05:43:43 AM »

JIS:

10,875,956 km² (June 10, 2014) down 63,905 km² from previous.

6th lowest.

Espen · « **Reply #784 on:** June 12, 2014, 05:39:51 AM »

IJIS:

10,818,465 km² (June 11, 2014) down 57,491 km² from previous.

5th lowest.

Espen · « **Reply #785 on:** June 13, 2014, 05:19:10 AM »

IJIS:

10,785,617 km² (June 12, 2014) down 32,848 km² from previous.

5th lowest.

Espen · « **Reply #786 on:** June 14, 2014, 06:02:04 AM »

IJIS:

10,731,639 km² (June 13, 2014) down 53,978 km² from previous.

5th lowest.

Espen · « **Reply #787 on:** June 15, 2014, 06:50:40 AM »

IJIS:

10,644,599 km² (June 14, 2014) down 87,040 km² from previous.

5th lowest.

Espen · « **Reply #788 on:** June 16, 2014, 06:06:45 AM »

IJIS:

10,580,914 km² (June 15, 2014) down 63,685 km² from previous.

5th lowest.

Espen · « **Reply #789 on:** June 17, 2014, 05:13:48 AM »

IJIS:

10,502,934 km² (June 16, 2014) down 77,980 km² from previous.

5th lowest.

Espen · « **Reply #790 on:** June 18, 2014, 06:06:18 AM »

IJIS:

10,450,284 km² (June 17, 2014) down 52,650 km² from previous.

5th lowest.

Frivolousz21 · « **Reply #791 on:** June 19, 2014, 05:38:30 AM »

Another big drop on Jaxa.

Espen · « **Reply #792 on:** June 19, 2014, 06:10:44 AM »

IJIS:

10,374,414 km² (June 18, 2014) down 75,870 km² from previous.

6th lowest.

Espen · « **Reply #793 on:** June 20, 2014, 05:39:51 AM »

IJIS:

10,273,741 km² (June 19, 2014) down 100,673 km² from previous.

First real "melt century".

5^th lowest.

Espen · « **Reply #794 on:** June 21, 2014, 09:13:52 AM »

IJIS:

10,179,770 km² (June 20, 2014) down 93,971 km² from previous.

4^th lowest.

Espen · « **Reply #795 on:** June 22, 2014, 05:14:26 AM »

IJIS:

10,073,166 km² (June 21, 2014) down 106,604 km² from previous.

4^th lowest.

Espen · « **Reply #796 on:** June 23, 2014, 05:14:02 AM »

IJIS:

9,962,606 km² (June 22, 2014) down 110,560 km² from previous.

4^th lowest.

Espen · « **Reply #797 on:** June 24, 2014, 06:25:23 AM »

IJIS:

9,835,948 km² (June 23, 2014) down 126,658 km² from previous.

4^th lowest.

RunningChristo · « **Reply #798 on:** June 24, 2014, 09:03:31 AM »

THIS is the first page I look up in the morning...and WHAT a June Cliff we finally came upon!!

Buddy · « **Reply #799 on:** June 24, 2014, 11:29:29 AM »

94K......107K......111K......127K.....?.......?........?........?

The ice sheet is showing a little momentum now isn't it...?

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