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« Reply #1750 on: January 25, 2024, 02:57:25 AM »
Heads of States and members of the Non-Aligned Movement (NAM), pose for a photo at Speke resort convention center in Kampala, Uganda Friday, Jan. 19, 2024.

Under the radar as usual was the NAM Summit in Uganda that was attended by 3,000+ delegates from 120+ nations and organizations. At least RT provided a decent post-Summit recap that began thusly:

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    Russia, which has observer status in the NAM, praised the organization on Saturday for playing an important role in establishing a fairer, more democratic, and multipolar system of international relations.

    “We are fully united by our rejection of neocolonialist ambitions, double standards, as well as forceful pressure, dictatorship and blackmail as a means of achieving foreign policy and foreign economic goals,” President Vladimir Putin said in a message to the summit.

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KAMPALA DECLARATION OF THE 19TH SUMMIT OF HEADS OF STATE AND GOVERNMENT OF THE NON-ALIGNED MOVEMENT (NAM) 19 – 20 JANUARY 2024 KAMPALA, UGANDA

We, the Heads of State and Government, gathered at the 19th Summit of Heads of State and Government of the Non-Aligned Movement, held in Kampala, Republic of Uganda, on 19 – 20 January, 2024, under the theme, “Deepening Cooperation for Shared Global Affluence”, reviewed progress made in the implementation of the outcomes of the XVIII Summit of the Movement, held in Baku, Republic of Azerbaijan, on 25 – 26 October, 2019, and considered new and emerging challenges and issues of concern to NAM Member States and the broader international community; 
more here
https://karlof1.substack.com/p/under-the-radar-nam-summit-and-kampala
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« Reply #1751 on: January 28, 2024, 05:11:46 PM »
this is interesting.

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« Reply #1752 on: February 05, 2024, 06:45:15 AM »
imo this will lead to war as well, eventually. everything the US does is sickening. It and the american people themselves (like Israeli jewish zionists) are toxic.

 The US Toppling of Imran Khan

Covert regime change strikes again. This time in Pakistan.
Jeffrey D. Sachs
Feb 01, 2024

A principal instrument of U.S. foreign policy is covert regime change, meaning a secret action by the U.S. government to bring down the government of another country. There are strong reasons to believe that U.S. actions led to the removal from power of Pakistan’s Prime Minister Imran Khan in April 2022, followed by his arrest on trumped-up charges of corruption and espionage, and sentencing this week to 10 years imprisonment on the espionage charge. The political objective is to block Pakistan’s most popular politician from returning to power in the elections on February 8.

The key to covert operations of course is that they are secret and hence deniable by the U.S. government. Even when the evidence comes to light through whistleblowers or leaks, as it very often does, the U.S. government rejects the authenticity of the evidence and the mainstream media generally ignore the story because it contradicts the official narrative. Because editors at these mainstream outlets don’t want to peddle in “conspiracy theories,” or are simply happy to be the mouthpieces for officialdom, they give the U.S. government a very wide berth for actual regime-change conspiracies.

Covert regime change by the U.S. is shockingly routine. One authoritative study by Boston University professor Lindsay O’Rourke counts 64 covert regime change operations by the U.S. during the Cold War (1947 and 1989), and in fact the number was far larger because she chose to count repeated attempts within one country as a single extended episode. Since then, U.S. regime change operations have remained frequent, such as when President Barrack Obama tasked the CIA (Operation Timber Sycamore) with overthrowing Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad. That covert operation remained secret until several years after the operation, and even then, was hardly covered by the mainstream media. 

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https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/us-ouster-of-imran-khan
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« Reply #1753 on: February 06, 2024, 12:10:14 PM »
it's odd this isn't bigger news. oh well, there's evil everywhere in the world the empire needs to make war with, they'll get to this later...

$10 Trillion in US Treasuries Coming to the Market in 2024
https://apolloacademy.com/10-trillion-in-us-treasuries-coming-to-the-market-in-2024/#:~:text=A%20record%20%248.9%20trillion%20of,by%20%2460%20billion%20per%20month.

"A record $8.9 trillion of government debt will mature over the next year, see the first chart below. The government budget deficit in 2024 will be $1.4 trillion according to the CBO, and the Fed has been running down its balance sheet by $60 billion per month.

The bottom line is that someone will need to buy more than $10 trillion in US government bonds in 2024. That is more than one-third of US government debt outstanding. And more than one-third of US GDP.

This may be a particular challenge when the biggest holders of US Treasuries, namely foreigners, continue to shrink their share, see the second chart."
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« Reply #1754 on: February 06, 2024, 01:56:52 PM »
it's odd this isn't bigger news. oh well, there's evil everywhere in the world the empire needs to make war with, they'll get to this later...

$10 Trillion in US Treasuries Coming to the Market in 2024
https://apolloacademy.com/10-trillion-in-us-treasuries-coming-to-the-market-in-2024/#:~:text=A%20record%20%248.9%20trillion%20of,by%20%2460%20billion%20per%20month.

"A record $8.9 trillion of government debt will mature over the next year, see the first chart below. The government budget deficit in 2024 will be $1.4 trillion according to the CBO, and the Fed has been running down its balance sheet by $60 billion per month.

The bottom line is that someone will need to buy more than $10 trillion in US government bonds in 2024. That is more than one-third of US government debt outstanding. And more than one-third of US GDP.

This may be a particular challenge when the biggest holders of US Treasuries, namely foreigners, continue to shrink their share, see the second chart."

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« Reply #1755 on: February 06, 2024, 09:32:50 PM »
it's odd this isn't bigger news. oh well, there's evil everywhere in the world the empire needs to make war with, they'll get to this later...

$10 Trillion in US Treasuries Coming to the Market in 2024
https://apolloacademy.com/10-trillion-in-us-treasuries-coming-to-the-market-in-2024/#:~:text=A%20record%20%248.9%20trillion%20of,by%20%2460%20billion%20per%20month.

"A record $8.9 trillion of government debt will mature over the next year, see the first chart below. The government budget deficit in 2024 will be $1.4 trillion according to the CBO, and the Fed has been running down its balance sheet by $60 billion per month.

The bottom line is that someone will need to buy more than $10 trillion in US government bonds in 2024. That is more than one-third of US government debt outstanding. And more than one-third of US GDP.

This may be a particular challenge when the biggest holders of US Treasuries, namely foreigners, continue to shrink their share, see the second chart."

Pop?
Most likely higher interest rates will be demanded by those expected to rollover existing bonds.
Those who refuse to play ball will pay a price. The Central Banks have ways and means to squeeze reluctant players.

However it does mean a higher interest bill loaded onto the US budget. One commentator has said no matter if the next administration is Republican or Democrat, the US government is set to embark on a spending splurge as well next year.

Methinks the world (certainly the EU) will continue to turn a blind eye to ever-increasing debt for some time to come, which of course will make the reckoning even worse when it arrives.
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« Reply #1756 on: February 06, 2024, 10:29:08 PM »
BRICS now have more combined wealth than G7, it's going to get more difficult to strong arm them as their interests are shifting away from the united states.

Countries are clamoring to join BRICS group, South Africa says, as Russia takes up leadership
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/01/china/brics-membership-applications-china-russia-intl-hnk/index.html

"Russia was accepting those applications after assuming rotating chairmanship of the group this year – and will be the first member to oversee the body since it significantly expanded its global footprint at the start of the year, when Iran, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Ethiopia, and Egypt formally joined.

The growing membership is widely viewed as a win for China and Russia, which have sought to reshape an international system they see as unfairly dominated by the United States amid growing frictions with Washington and the West.

BRICS, which since 2011 had been made up of Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa, roughly positions itself as the Global South’s answer to the Group of Seven (G7) major developed economies.

... The expansion adds the muscle of major oil-producing Gulf economies to the body and comes as both Russia and China have bolstered their relationships with sanctions-hit Iran. Last year, Beijing played a part brokering the restoration of ties between longtime rivals Saudi Arabia and Iran.

The new cohort of countries join as BRICS pushes toward more diplomatic and financial coordination, including reform of the United Nations Security Council and a move away from a US dollar-dominated trade system.

Finance ministers were working to develop the use of local currencies for payments between member states and international payment platforms to “redress what we regard as a rather unfair and costly payment system,” South Africa’s Pandor said Wednesday."

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Appropriating frozen Russian assets to use them for Ukraine’s needs is morally justified and may help Kyiv finance its war needs, but it would also entail risks, and that explains the EU’s hesitancy to follow this path—at least for now.
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« Reply #1757 on: February 10, 2024, 02:51:38 AM »
The preliminary report for the Boeing 737-MAX incident in early January has been released, and it's quite damning. After receiving the door from Spirit, Boeing had to do repairs, and photos show that, after finishing those repairs, they forgot to install the bolts that were meant to hold the door in place. An apparent quality control issue.

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24410209/report_dca24ma063_193617_2_6_2024-2_08_36-pm_final.pdf

The report is talking a lot about the forces involved, and about the pressure differential at the time of the incident. I think that's important. It seems to me that this could have ended much worse, and was much closer to a catastrophy than it initially appeared. The incident happened at 16,000 ft, where the pressure differential between the cabin and the outside wasn't nearly what it would have been at cruising altitude. If this had happened a few minutes later, when the airplane was at altitude, the departing door may have taken the frame with it, likely resulting in structural failure of the hull. The aircraft would then break apart, which certainly would have killed everyone on board. Blancolirio shares those concerns, see his summary and comments at

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« Reply #1758 on: February 10, 2024, 04:46:22 AM »
biden is unfit for trial/prosecution.

the report.
https://www.justice.gov/storage/report-from-special-counsel-robert-k-hur-february-2024.pdf

"The Attorney General ofthe United States
Re: Report of the Special Counsel on the Investigation Into Unauthorized
Removal, Retention, and Disclosure of Classified Documents Discovered
at Locations Including the Penn Biden Center and the Delaware Private
Residence of President Joseph R. Biden, Jr."

Biden insists 'my memory is fine' as he angrily criticizes Special Counsel report


he's clearly not fine, it's been elder abuse since the last election. he couldn't run an ice cream stand.
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« Reply #1759 on: February 29, 2024, 12:48:06 AM »
Macgregor is pissed off and disgusted from a-z.

Col Doug Col Doug Macgregor: America's border v. Ukraine's border Which Comes First?: America's border v. Ukraine's border Which Comes First?


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« Reply #1760 on: February 29, 2024, 01:16:07 AM »
Macgregor is pissed off and disgusted from a-z.

Col Doug Col Doug Macgregor: America's border v. Ukraine's border Which Comes First?: America's border v. Ukraine's border Which Comes First?


@29 mins Mac saws russian general staff asked to evaluate the addition of 800,000 men because no one in the west is capable of negotiating an end to the fighting in ukriane ... so Russia may need to go further ... eg Odessa, Transistria etc
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« Reply #1761 on: February 29, 2024, 05:29:18 PM »
oh, russia will go to the dneiper and cross it in the south to take Odessa which will link up Transnistria. ukraine will be cut off from the black sea.

edit to add - those possible 800k more troops are in anticipation of western troops being sent.

it's amazing to watch this mass delusion in the west crash into reality.
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« Reply #1762 on: February 29, 2024, 08:34:36 PM »
"Who Could Be Next": Top Canadian Pension Fund Sells Manhattan Office Tower For $1, Sparking Firesale Panic
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/who-could-be-next-largest-canadian-pension-fund-sells-manhattan-office-tower-1

"Canada Pension Plan Investment Board has recently done three deals at deeply discounted prices, selling its interests in a pair of Vancouver towers, and a business park in Southern California, but it was its Manhattan office tower redevelopment project that shocked the industry: the Canadian asset manager sold its stake for just $1. The worry now is that such firesales will set an example for other major investors seeking a way out of the turmoil too, forcing a wholesale crash in the Manhattan real estate market which until now had managed to avoid real price discovery."
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« Reply #1763 on: February 29, 2024, 11:27:43 PM »
"Who Could Be Next": Top Canadian Pension Fund Sells Manhattan Office Tower For $1, Sparking Firesale Panic
Pity it didn't happen during Trump's trial about inflating asset values which I assume included some NY assets.
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« Reply #1764 on: March 01, 2024, 01:26:38 AM »

Pity it didn't happen during Trump's trial about inflating asset values which I assume included some NY assets.

TDS in action.

Totally ignoring the bleeding obvious takeout of the report. (sigh)
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« Reply #1765 on: March 01, 2024, 11:25:01 AM »
"Who Could Be Next": Top Canadian Pension Fund Sells Manhattan Office Tower For $1, Sparking Firesale Panic
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/who-could-be-next-largest-canadian-pension-fund-sells-manhattan-office-tower-1

"Canada Pension Plan Investment Board has recently done three deals at deeply discounted prices, selling its interests in a pair of Vancouver towers, and a business park in Southern California, but it was its Manhattan office tower redevelopment project that shocked the industry: the Canadian asset manager sold its stake for just $1. The worry now is that such firesales will set an example for other major investors seeking a way out of the turmoil too, forcing a wholesale crash in the Manhattan real estate market which until now had managed to avoid real price discovery."
There was a time when many 'city' pension fund managers sold off prime assets for a song I'm sure there were rationales for it but those same pension funds now are underwater, kept 'solvent' only by the 'asset' price increases that accompany quantative easing. I wondered at the time if they were corrupt or had merely been hypnotised.

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« Reply #1766 on: March 01, 2024, 01:59:23 PM »
"Who Could Be Next": Top Canadian Pension Fund Sells Manhattan Office Tower For $1, Sparking Firesale Panic
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/who-could-be-next-largest-canadian-pension-fund-sells-manhattan-office-tower-1

"Canada Pension Plan Investment Board has recently done three deals at deeply discounted prices, selling its interests in a pair of Vancouver towers, and a business park in Southern California, but it was its Manhattan office tower redevelopment project that shocked the industry: the Canadian asset manager sold its stake for just $1. The worry now is that such firesales will set an example for other major investors seeking a way out of the turmoil too, forcing a wholesale crash in the Manhattan real estate market which until now had managed to avoid real price discovery."
There was a time when many 'city' pension fund managers sold off prime assets for a song I'm sure there were rationales for it but those same pension funds now are underwater, kept 'solvent' only by the 'asset' price increases that accompany quantative easing. I wondered at the time if they were corrupt or had merely been hypnotised.

They do what they do because their actions have no consequences. The Govt wont let them fail.

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« Reply #1767 on: March 01, 2024, 08:24:07 PM »
i threw it out there not quite knowing what to make of it, a passing breeze or a canary in the coal mine? commercial real estate has been in real trouble since the advent of amazon and then the pandemic. housing, particularly in the anglo world, is outrageous and canada appears to be winning that race to the bottom. when the american crash happened in 2008 many other countries had more sound banking practices and therefore didn't suffer that fate. years on the banking practices adopted, extraordinarily low interest rates etc., meant to save the american system led to crazy situations in their vasal states along with a flood of money from overseas seeking security. now real estate has become out of reach on the domestic side and there are too many commercial/office buildings to support the eroding market. it's being hollowed out.
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« Reply #1768 on: March 01, 2024, 11:05:47 PM »
i threw it out there not quite knowing what to make of it, a passing breeze or a canary in the coal mine? commercial real estate has been in real trouble since the advent of amazon and then the pandemic. housing, particularly in the anglo world, is outrageous and canada appears to be winning that race to the bottom. when the american crash happened in 2008 many other countries had more sound banking practices and therefore didn't suffer that fate. years on the banking practices adopted, extraordinarily low interest rates etc., meant to save the american system led to crazy situations in their vasal states along with a flood of money from overseas seeking security. now real estate has become out of reach on the domestic side and there are too many commercial/office buildings to support the eroding market. it's being hollowed out.

The solution to both problems.... convert commercial space into residential space.

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« Reply #1769 on: March 01, 2024, 11:29:12 PM »
another solution canada could potentially have is massive public spending borrowed directly through the bank of canada (central bank) that's still owned by canadians, unlike every other central bank that's part of the bank for international settlements. we could be funding our own debt at the % required to administer the bank (2-3% interest). universal healthcare, infrastructure, actual national defense (not imperialistic fantasies) which would require industry and manufacturing that could be (partially/largely) owned by the state, education, etc.

the americans would lose their shit and call us communists even more than they do. we're meant to be a vasal state, so are you.
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« Reply #1770 on: March 02, 2024, 06:04:10 AM »
Rishi Sunak
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WATCH: Protecting our democracy. 11 minutes
https://twitter.com/RishiSunak/status/1763632558414135456

Responds to George Galloway winning a by-election getting more votes than the Conservatives, Labour, LibDems and another combined!

First time in UK history Labour/Tories didn't run first or second in a seat! A local Independent came second place!




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« Reply #1771 on: March 02, 2024, 06:27:52 AM »
another solution canada could potentially have is massive public spending borrowed directly through the bank of canada (central bank) that's still owned by canadians, unlike every other central bank that's part of the bank for international settlements. we could be funding our own debt at the % required to administer the bank (2-3% interest). universal healthcare, infrastructure, actual national defense (not imperialistic fantasies) which would require industry and manufacturing that could be (partially/largely) owned by the state, education, etc.

the americans would lose their shit and call us communists even more than they do. we're meant to be a vasal state, so are you.

Australia always backs the US... makes me want to vomit every time.

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« Reply #1772 on: March 10, 2024, 04:00:49 PM »
canadian domestic politics used to be relatively boring, not so under trudeau, particularly his second term. the liberals are polling at 23% and dropping while the conservatives are polling at 43% and rising. in upside down world the conservatives are talking about class politics, they're talking like like they're championing the working class and now they're going after corporations? left is right and up is down, the ndp (socialists) gave up on traditional left politics in favour of "the agenda" and the conservatives have filled the void (?).

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this young conservative just won a by-election with 57% of the vote.
Liberals CRUSHED in HISTORIC Loss


we're in bizarro world.
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« Reply #1773 on: March 24, 2024, 05:45:13 AM »
an interesting, wide ranging, conversation.

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« Reply #1774 on: March 30, 2024, 07:53:02 PM »
when it's all completely unsustainable... be optimistic! there has to be a revolution in the west.

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« Reply #1775 on: April 10, 2024, 04:33:28 AM »
How The American Civil War Made Canada
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« Reply #1776 on: April 11, 2024, 06:30:24 PM »
A comment from an article by a Grauniad columnist

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You know what they say about America, that it went from barbarism to decadence without the intervening period of civilisation
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« Reply #1777 on: April 11, 2024, 09:54:59 PM »
Radika Desai and Michael Hudson on why the Empire wants to bring China to heel.

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« Reply #1778 on: April 24, 2024, 05:21:33 PM »
woe to the ever shrinking power of the poor United States of America.

https://www.forbesindia.com/article/explainers/top-10-largest-economies-in-the-world/86159/1

""""""Let's take a closer look at the globe's largest economies in 2024
The United States of America
GDP:  $27,974 billion
GDP By Country Per Capita (Thousands): $83.06
Annual GDP Growth Rate: 1.5%
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« Reply #1779 on: April 24, 2024, 08:24:31 PM »
 US vs. Russia: Why the Biden strategy in Africa may be failing

The U.S. is expected to lose access to a critical drone base in Niger that it uses to fight ISIS in the Sahel.

U.S. officials are starting to accept that their strategy of pressing Niger and other war-battered African countries to break off ties with Moscow and embrace democratic norms is no longer working.

The recent breakdown in relations with Niger, where American troops are set to withdraw as Russian fighters arrive, has forced a reckoning inside the Biden administration over its approach to maintaining its allies in volatile parts of Africa, according to two officials familiar with the matter. Both officials were granted anonymity to speak about sensitive diplomatic negotiations.

Countries across the continent, including Chad, Central African Republic, Mali and Libya, have turned toward Russia for security assistance. Now, in Niger, Russian paramilitary fighters have arrived, sidelining the U.S. and forcing the withdrawal of 1,100 U.S. military personnel there in the next several months, one of the officials said.

While Washington has raised concerns about Niamey’s relationship with Iran, U.S. officials are particularly worried about operating in a country whose government has increasingly close military ties with Russia.

The military junta in March called for the dissolution of the agreement that governs the American military presence in the country, but a date hasn’t been set for their departure.

If U.S. troops leave, America will lose access to a critical military base it relies on to fight groups like ISIS. The U.S. drone base in Niger is used for intelligence collection that is key for targeting terrorist strongholds in the region.

“When all of these countries kicked out the French and turned inward, we then tried to pivot to become the peacemaker in the hopes that we could keep our presence there,” said Cameron Hudson, a former intelligence officer for Africa at the CIA, referring to countries with coup governments in Africa. “All of that is clearly not working. We are now out. Russia is now in.”

The National Security Council did not respond to a request for comment.

U.S. law prohibits Washington from providing funds to coup governments, including Niger. But U.S. officials have tried to maintain diplomatic relations with those countries — many of which have vast natural resources — in an effort to one day resume military and other financial support.

The Biden administration’s strategy has been to try to engage coup governments and negotiate roadmaps and timetables for democratic elections.

But African leaders, while telling diplomats and other American officials that they want to maintain relations with Washington, have largely rebuffed suggestions that their countries need to more fully embrace democracy.

“With most of these governments, they really don’t want to be told what to do,” a third U.S. official said. “There’s a long history of the West telling African countries how to govern and they’re finally saying ‘enough.’”

Some African leaders have welcomed the Russian intervention, saying Moscow can provide fast security assistance when the U.S. cannot. Others have pushed back against U.S. demands for reforms, claiming the West has no right to lecture on democracy in Africa when it ignores similar issues with allies in other parts of the world.

Those rebuffs, including in Niger, have tested American officials as they attempt to try to find a way to hold on to Washington’s long-standing partnerships in countries that hold significant natural resource wealth.

Behind closed doors, officials increasingly believe that it may be unwise to completely withdraw from countries experiencing challenges in democracy, said a DOD official.

Doing so “does leave a huge gap for other less scrupulous competitors” such as Moscow or Beijing to swoop in.

“The fear is, ‘okay, we’re going to walk away, and Russia is going to come in,’” the official said. “Are we really being a good partner if we are leaving when they are most vulnerable?”

So far, the U.S. has tried to make the most of limited options.

Their most recent strategy has been to expose Russian mercenaries’ destruction on the continent, including their vast human rights abuses in an effort to discourage countries from allying with Moscow.

“Russian engagement in Africa is not helpful,” said a second U.S. official. “It’s parasitic.”

So far, though, that effort has not reversed decisions by African leaders, especially those in coup governments, to partner with Russia. Their immediate needs for assistance and security are too great, the official said. And the U.S. can’t provide that kind of help.

“Where the Russians have a real advantage over the United States is they have weapons, and they sell weapons, including helicopters,” the senior U.S. official said. “And they sell small arms. There are a lot of security challenges in Africa and Africans need weapons.”

Russia has seized on the opportunity, using mercenaries and other fighters aligned with the ministry of defense to help provide security. In Mali for example, members of Russia’s elite Wagner paramilitary force have been helping government forces carry out strikes and raids that have killed scores of civilians in recent months, according to rights groups.

Now, for the first time in Niger, the Russian ministry of defense is overseeing a new security mission, dispatching paramilitary fighters to help train Niger’s military. Russia’s moves raised alarms among Biden administration officials who have tried to negotiate a deal with the military junta that would ultimately allow the U.S. troops to remain in the country.

Many of the Russian fighters in Niger, and those bound for neighboring Burkina Faso, formerly fought under Yevgeny Prigozhin when he led the Wagner forces. Wagner was Russia’s most elite paramilitary force, operating in various corners of the world, including Ukraine and Africa.

Since his attempted overthrow of the country’s military leaders last summer and his subsequent death, many of his former employees have joined new and existing private security forces overseen by Moscow’s military and intelligence services.

It is still not clear how soon U.S. forces will leave Niger, or if there might be a way to negotiate for them to remain. One senior U.S. official said there’s a possibility the U.S. still helps train the military in Niger.
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https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/22/russia-niger-africa-biden-strategy-00153734

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« Reply #1780 on: April 26, 2024, 11:20:15 AM »
So.... African nations dont like being told by outside countries how to do things within their own borders... and the US is worried because they are losing their influence over it.

Has the US considered working with countries without conditions on who runs the country and how it is run?

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« Reply #1781 on: April 26, 2024, 06:13:52 PM »
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Why the Biden strategy in Africa may be failing
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Want to know what is really going on?
they're no longer playing our stupid game.
The problem is. 1/2 the world no longer subscribes to our ideology.
That means the benefits  we promised them if they did subscribe to it have failed to be  delivered.
They also now know from our current behavior: that we made promises with no intention of keeping them.
And realizing  that, they are rejecting it one ideological pillar at a time.
The neoliberal ethics
The neokeynesian  finance
The abstractions that replaced common sense
All of these aren’t bad ideas… but we abused their belief in them so badly they have no choice but to reject all of it in a return to sanity.
We f*cked up.
Of course China set a very bad example, listening to all 'our' advice, sending promising young students to learn Chicago school economics, then doing what it thought best for itself, and worst of all blossoming, blooming and booming.

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« Reply #1782 on: April 26, 2024, 07:44:30 PM »
US military capability

Some will enjoy reading the articles in the links below.
Some will not (LeftyLarry?)

The bit I found alarming? very sad? from these articles was 77 percent of young Americans do not qualify for military service without a waiver due to being overweight, drug use, or mental or physical problems.

The US is exposed to ever-worsening impacts of climate change, and a population less able to cope with the physical demands of the changing climate and weather.

I do remember an opinion article some time ago in Bloomberg News (of all places) raising the alarm on the US Military Readiness, basically suggesting "A Sheep in Wolf's Clothing".

https://indi.ca/nothing-to-see-here-just-the-wheels-falling-off-empire/
https://indi.ca/how-americas-military-has-fallen-apart/

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Pentagon officials have noted in recent years that the military recruiting environment is among the worst in U.S. history. Only about 23% of Americans between the ages of 17 to 24 qualify for military service, fewer than previous generations, according to Defense Department data. Among them, only about 9% has shown interest in the military, the data shows. (Stripes)

According to a Pentagon report, “77 percent of young Americans do not qualify for military service without a waiver due to being overweight, drug use, or mental or physical problems”.

click 1st image twice for fullsize I guess a similar graph could be made for most of the West's economy.
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« Reply #1783 on: April 27, 2024, 03:23:50 AM »
Maybe a decent explanation for why the US is moving toward missile defense rather than person based warfare...?

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« Reply #1784 on: April 27, 2024, 05:41:05 PM »
Maybe a decent explanation for why the US is moving toward missile defense rather than person based warfare...?

Missiles have become much more destructively effective in recent decades, primarily due to advances in guidance.  Thus, a vastly increased emphasis on both missile and anti-missile technology is true around the world.  Person-based warfare is virtually useless when it comes to missiles.

The US certainly has a fitness problem in its demographics, primarily obesity.  Other major nations have comparable or worse problems in demographics, mostly a shrinking and aging population.  The US population is certainly aging, but not as fast as most other nations.  And it continues to grow, due to abundant immigration.

Automation in warfare seems certain to advance.  I think we'll see autonomous missile-bearing vehicles (land, sea, and air, and maybe space).  And also, anti-missile drones in all these realms.

Of course, all this horrifically expensive technology only has genuine utility for any nation in deterrence.  As soon as a nation needs to use them, both/all sides have lost, just unequally.


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« Reply #1785 on: April 28, 2024, 03:59:37 AM »
Maybe a decent explanation for why the US is moving toward missile defense rather than person based warfare...?

Missiles have become much more destructively effective in recent decades, primarily due to advances in guidance.  Thus, a vastly increased emphasis on both missile and anti-missile technology is true around the world.  Person-based warfare is virtually useless when it comes to missiles.

The US certainly has a fitness problem in its demographics, primarily obesity.  Other major nations have comparable or worse problems in demographics, mostly a shrinking and aging population.  The US population is certainly aging, but not as fast as most other nations.  And it continues to grow, due to abundant immigration.

Automation in warfare seems certain to advance.  I think we'll see autonomous missile-bearing vehicles (land, sea, and air, and maybe space).  And also, anti-missile drones in all these realms.

Of course, all this horrifically expensive technology only has genuine utility for any nation in deterrence.  As soon as a nation needs to use them, both/all sides have lost, just unequally.

I agree.

One thing about missiles is they don't really win anything other then destruction of the other side.

For a war to achieve whatever goal it has, you need to put people on the ground then work really hard to change the culture. Missiles cant do that.

Which means the next big war is just going to be a 2 to 5 hour show of destruction and not much else. When the show is over, the military forces are required... and if you don't have enough of that, you either get pushed back or need more missiles.... which, as you say, are expensive and hard to replace.

Better have enough of them or the ability to make them quickly... I am not sure the US can do either for more than a short time.

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« Reply #1786 on: May 15, 2024, 08:59:48 PM »
How America tried and failed to stay White

100 years ago the U.S. tried to limit immigration to White Europeans. Instead, diversity triumphed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/interactive/2024/immigration-history-race-quota-progress/

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« Reply #1787 on: May 21, 2024, 06:08:56 PM »
here comes the digital prison, it's getting all growed up.

Australia has passed new national digital identity laws. This is what that means for you
https://www.9news.com.au/national/national-digital-identity-scheme-explained-australia/c203a38a-8697-4d35-80dd-e36ec1959c30

"Verifying your identity is something we all have to do fairly regularly, but it's about to fundamentally change after Australia passed its first legislation for a national digital ID.

The laws passed parliament in mid-May following the federal budget and will come into effect in November, although the ID itself (called myGovID) is already up and running."

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good bye first amendment, freedom of speech is a privilege not a right. george carlin was correct - "you have no rights, you have privileges".

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