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Don't get me wrong. I'm all about solar and wind energy and any others we can get our hands on but I see some potential pitfalls mainly around the continued use of the existing vulnerable grid and the FARM mentality putting all eggs in one basket.  Not at all a fan of nuclear, but perhaps ultra safe Micro Nuclear reactors that don't put so much at risk and can be trucked-away not unlike that used on nuclear subs perhaps will be needed?!  The second photo is of most possible forms of energy... burning trash can also be a way...  If our society was 90% more efficient, than we help make whatever we get from solar and wind enough. 

P.S. is this the best forum for such a post?
Self-sufficiency and Durability to disasters are the absolute keys to nearly any disaster you can think of such as War, economic collapse, pandemics, Global warming, quakes, volcanoes, Hurricanes... all of which put solar farms etc. and power grids at risk!

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but I see some potential pitfalls

And you think some screenshots from a denier site are suitable to make that point?
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It is the science subforum. Consequences would probably be better.

Also write up the actual points you want to make don´t go with some vague claim and then post some collages below them (like in the earlier house thread) . That is not discussion.

ultra safe Micro Nuclear reactors

They probably don´t exist or maybe you are thinking about the type they put in space probes/satellites. Not sure how much energy they produce but it is probably inferior to a green grid.

burning trash can also be a way
 
Well if you want to be efficient you want to get rid of as much trash as possible.

All plastic packaging needs to be 100% recycled. Many types are not like the black plastic trays they put under takeaway food because it looks better.

Food waste needs to be eliminated.

Then there is probably a ton of useless gadgets that can be eliminated with realistic carbon prizing.
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It is hard to think of a more reliable source of energy than the sun through photovoltaic panels. PV panels have no moving parts, and while they have not been around very long, compared to thermal, thus far they have not worn out. There is no other energy source that can withstand zero maintenance for decades and that still runs almost as new. They may not be the most energy dense, and are relatively difficult to make huge ongoing profits in the way that an oil field does, but they ARE reliable.

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Especially in winter.

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Yes, there is sun and wind for 99.9% of mankind even in winter.
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Maybe. But my calculations gave me astronomical cost for more than 0.1% of mankind. Wind energy reduces very fast with wind speed.

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There are cables.
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Well, each energy has its limits, and renewables are regarding resilience much better than fossil fuels.  No missiles on supply chain, no pipes freezing, no lack of cooling fluid, no major breakdown because it is mainly produced in "small" decentralized units.
There are many issues with renewable energy, but this really isn't one.

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 Hydro is also renewable energy excepted for pumped hydro which is storage.

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Re: Potential Problems with Green Energy Reliability in a Disaster-Prone World
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2019, 07:27:01 PM »
Maybe we will see in Tokio what is the easiest to restart and who has the most problems.