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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #502 on: April 18, 2019, 07:59:12 PM »

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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #503 on: April 18, 2019, 11:04:15 PM »
If passed, Colorado State HB 19-1188 would require that bills be scored not just for budget deficit impacts, but for their impact on net greenhouse gas emissions
http://leg.colorado.gov/sites/default/files/documents/2019A/bills/2019a_1188_01.pdf

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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #504 on: April 19, 2019, 06:59:20 PM »
BBC One on Twitter: "There is still time to hit the emergency brakes on the damage we are doing to our planet. There is still hope. Climate Change The Facts with Sir David Attenborough. ...”
https://twitter.com/BBCOne/status/1118884506927345665
Four-minute video program excerpt at the link.
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #506 on: April 21, 2019, 01:19:22 AM »
Solar is the only medium-long term action that can make a fundamental difference, along with power storage for "off" times. Even wind power is second...wind is just using a small fraction of the solar energy hitting the surface of Earth to heat up the atmosphere. We are producing a sizable fraction of a percent of the energy that hits the earth, if we instead capture that energy to use it, we can stop GHG emissions. Of course, even this does not mean we can grow exponentially beyond one more doubling, if even that. If we use too much solar energy we have changed the albedo of the planet and get AGW just from that.

GOOD NEWS: I checked
https://www.eia.gov/totalenergy/data/monthly/pdf/sec1_5.pdf
and this decade, solar has been doubling in the US every three years or less. Seven more doublings and it will account for the whole hog.
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #507 on: April 22, 2019, 10:38:38 PM »
To save life on Earth, here’s the $100 billion-a-year solution

https://asunow.asu.edu/20190419-global-engagement-asu-100-billion-dollar-solution-save-earth?hootPostID=45b8f2bd7d15d5c69e27f1db78180411

    Protect biodiversity by conserving at least 30% of the Earth’s surface by 2030.

    Mitigate climate change by conserving the Earth’s natural carbon storehouses.

    Reduce major threats (such as meeting 2050 world food demand by directing cropland expansion to degraded lands and reducing food waste; or curbing industrial fishing or illegal hunting and poaching; or reduce use of plastics or ecologically damaging toxins).


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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #508 on: April 23, 2019, 05:00:34 PM »
U.S.:  Nevada and Washington pass 100% clean electricity bills
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Joining the Club
The two states join New Mexico, California, and Hawaii in setting 100% clean electricity goals for the future. Hawaii is still the only state to commit to getting 100% of its future electricity from renewable sources — not just carbon-free.

Hawaii was recently joined by American territory Puerto Rico, which aims for 100% renewables by 2050. Washington D.C. has also committed to 100% renewables by 2032.

With both Washington and Nevada setting legislative goals for renewables and 100% clean electricity, that makes five states out of 50 — and there are no signs of the momentum stopping at the state level. Illinois is pursuing a similar commitment. Governors in a number of other states, such as New York, New Jersey, and Minnesota, are also seeking plans for carbon-free electricity.

At the city level, 120 cities have committed to 100% clean, renewable energy as noted by the Sierra Club’s Ready for 100 campaign.
https://electrek.co/2019/04/23/washington-nevada-clean-electricity/
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #509 on: April 27, 2019, 02:13:47 PM »
California restaurants can now add a 1% surcharge to help fight climate change
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People eating out at California restaurants may start to see an optional 1% surcharge added to their bill.
The money will go to a public fund that helps farmers who use practices that reduce carbon in the atmosphere.

To participate in the Restore California Renewable Restaurant program, eateries can choose to add a 1% fee to every diner's check.
It would still be optional for customers, but if all diners at a certain eatery pay it, the haul would be more than enough to make the establishment carbon neutral, Anthony Myint, an organizer of the initiative, told CNN.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/26/us/california-restaurants-climate-change-surcharge-trnd/index.html
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #510 on: April 27, 2019, 07:09:36 PM »
In The Guardian yesterday:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/apr/26/david-attenborough-backs-school-climate-strikes-outrage-greta-thunberg

'Outrage is justified': David Attenborough backs school climate strikers
Exclusive: broadcaster says older generations have done terrible things and should listen to young
"The outrage of the students striking from school over climate change inaction is “certainly justified”, according to Sir David Attenborough, who said older generations had done terrible damage to the planet.
In an interview with the former UN climate chief Christiana Figueres, the broadcaster and naturalist dismissed critics of the widely praised global movement of school strikes as cynics.
“[Young people] understand the simple discoveries of science about our dependence upon the natural world,” he said. “My generation is no great example for understanding – we have done terrible things.”
The protests by young people were enormously encouraging, Attenborough said. “That is the one big reason I have for feeling we are making progress. If we were not making progress with young people, we are done.”"

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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #511 on: April 29, 2019, 04:10:09 PM »
Data Scientists Mapped Supply Chains of Every U.S. City
https://phys.org/news/2019-04-scientists-chains-city.html

Do you know where your food, energy, and water (FEW) come from?



FEW-View™ is an online educational tool that helps U.S. residents and community leaders visualize their supply chains, with an emphasis on food, energy, and water. This tool lets you see the hidden connections and benchmark your supply chain’s sustainability, security, and resilience.

https://fewsion.us/few-view

With FEWSION, people can map from the sources of their community's animal products, grains, meat and other foodstuffs; crude oil, gasoline, natural gas and electricity; and water sources. This is useful information for people who want to buy more local products or measure the sustainability of the community's food and energy consumption, but the purpose of this data is far greater. Ruddell sees FEWSION being especially useful for emergency managers, who can use it to plan ahead if a disaster or situation in some other part of the country is likely to affect their community; and sustainability officers who want to reduce their community's footprint by changing their commodity sourcing and supply chains.

In addition to understanding that no city is a resource island, this knowledge also empowers communities to invest in the security, resilience and sustainability of their supply chains.

For example, the current drought emergency the Colorado River is not just a regional problem, Ruddell said. If farms in Arizona or California run out of water, the supply of produce is reduced and the price of healthy, fresh food goes up nationwide. 
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #512 on: April 30, 2019, 05:18:21 PM »
He’s considered one of the leading Democratic candidates. (There are 20 announced Dem. candidates, so far....)

U.S. Presidential candidate Beto O'Rourke releases plan to fight climate change with $5 trillion investment
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O'Rourke on Monday released his plan to tackle climate change in his first major policy proposal as a 2020 candidate.
O'Rourke plans to invest $5 trillion over 10 years in infrastructure and innovation and also sets a goal to achieve net-zero emissions by 2050....
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/29/politics/beto-orourke-climate-change-policy/index.html
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #513 on: May 02, 2019, 01:52:34 PM »
UK climate panel sets big goals: less meat, drive electric
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The U.K. should effectively eliminate greenhouse gas emissions by 2050 by rapidly adopting policies that will change everything from the way people heat their homes to what they eat, an independent committee that advises the British government on climate change recommended Thursday.
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The panel says the government should reduce the demand for energy overall, increase the electrification of the British economy, develop hydrogen fuel technology and set ambitious targets for carbon capture and storage.

It also calls for reduced consumption of meat and dairy products, changes in how farmers operate and a requirement for electric vehicles to be the only option by 2035. ...
https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/uk-climate-panel-sets-big-goals-meat-drive-62767035
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #514 on: May 07, 2019, 08:05:51 PM »
As was expected, US government had issues with the resolution of The Arctic Council today. As this was totally expected, I haven't followed the news here in Finland. Probably all the exploiters cheer for this non-resolution, as the Arctic melts as does Greenland and drowns the coasts of, well, everywhere.

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« Reply #515 on: May 07, 2019, 08:40:23 PM »
Yup, I actually had to find a video where a moron actually said what's quoted below, unfortunately he said even more. Going to bed early...

"This is America’s moment to stand up as an Arctic nation and for the Arctic’s future. Because far from the barren backcountry that many thought it to be, the Arctic is at the forefront of opportunity and abundance. It houses 13 percent of the world’s undiscovered oil, 30 percent of its undiscovered gas, and an abundance of uranium, rare earth minerals, gold, diamonds, and millions of square miles of untapped resources. Fisheries galore,"
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« Reply #516 on: May 07, 2019, 09:11:56 PM »
Yup, I actually had to find a video where a moron actually said what's not quoted below, unfortunately he said even more. Going to bed early...


Watching Handmaid's tale. What was a bit surprising and not quite expected was the journalist of finnish broadcasting company who dared to use the word 'surprising' in the context of the US refusal to sign on the resolution. Journalists here may also have a rather large bias in their views of the world.

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« Reply #517 on: May 10, 2019, 04:49:02 AM »
Finland, as the speaker of the EU, won't take strong stance in demanding emissions reductions. On the other hand we just had elections so this might be an issue in the negotiations for the next gov't.
https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-10776226

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« Reply #518 on: May 12, 2019, 02:35:58 PM »
Fearless TV weathercasters show viewers Earth's soaring carbon levels
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Unable to avoid the atmospheric realities they scrutinize each day, a growing contingent of meteorologists are now looking well beyond the 10-day forecast, to Earth's troubling climate trends. They hold a powerful audience, as over half of Americans receive their news from television. But these forecasters are not simply referencing climate change; they're regularly providing viewers with the cold, hard, and perhaps unpleasant facts, like record CO2 numbers.

"It's important for us to get the right science out there," said Denver 7's Nelson, who then paused, and considered another reason why he's presenting CO2 levels. "I’ve been doing it, increasingly, since the birth of my grandchildren."
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Just last month, another veteran forecaster, Miami's John Morales, started presenting carbon dioxide numbers on air, too. Like Nelson, it's not something he constantly drills during live broadcasts, at least not vocally. But Morales now shows the numbers each day, and references them when he can.

"The most important thing is that it stays front and center in people's minds on a daily basis," said Morales, between weather forecasts on NBC 6 in Miami.  ...
https://mashable.com/article/weather-forecasters-tv-climate-change/
Image below: keeping CO2 level in front of the public
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #519 on: May 13, 2019, 07:14:53 PM »
May 7, 2019

Washington [State] Commits to 100% Clean Energy and Other States May Follow Suit
At least six other states are considering similar legislation to fight climate change by shutting down coal power and ramping up renewable energy.
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In the absence of federal action on climate change, more states are setting ambitious targets to reduce U.S. greenhouse gas emissions. Washington became the latest on Tuesday when Gov. Jay Inslee signed a law requiring that 100 percent of the state's electricity come from clean energy sources by 2045.

Washington is now the fifth state or territory—following Hawaii, California, New Mexico and Puerto Rico—to commit to 100 percent clean electricity, and at least six other states are considering similar legislation.

"This means we can have a fighting chance at saving the things we cherish most — our land, our air, our water and our children's health," Inslee said in a prepared statement. "We aren't done. Our success this year is just a harbinger of successes to come. But we're ready. We can do this."

Inslee has an even more ambitious plan for a nationwide conversion to clean energy: Last week, his presidential campaign issued a proposal to get the country to 100 percent zero-emissions electricity by 2035. while also requiring all new vehicles and buildings to be zero emissions. That followed another 2020 candidate, former U.S. Rep. Beto O'Rourke's announcement of his own climate plan with a goal of reaching net zero emissions by 2050. Activists and some congressional Democrats supporting a Green New Deal want an even faster timeline: transform the nation's electric grid to 100 percent clean energy in just 10 years. ...
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/07052019/100-percent-clean-energy-map-inslee-washington-california-puerto-rico?amp
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« Reply #520 on: May 14, 2019, 03:13:59 AM »
May 7, 2019

Washington [State] Commits to 100% Clean Energy and Other States May Follow Suit
At least six other states are considering similar legislation to fight climate change by shutting down coal power and ramping up renewable energy.
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In the absence of federal action on climate change, more states are setting ambitious targets to reduce U.S. greenhouse gas emissions. Washington became the latest on Tuesday when Gov. Jay Inslee signed a law requiring that 100 percent of the state's electricity come from clean energy sources by 2045.

Washington is now the fifth state or territory—following Hawaii, California, New Mexico and Puerto Rico—to commit to 100 percent clean electricity, and at least six other states are considering similar legislation.

"This means we can have a fighting chance at saving the things we cherish most — our land, our air, our water and our children's health," Inslee said in a prepared statement. "We aren't done. Our success this year is just a harbinger of successes to come. But we're ready. We can do this."

Inslee has an even more ambitious plan for a nationwide conversion to clean energy: Last week, his presidential campaign issued a proposal to get the country to 100 percent zero-emissions electricity by 2035. while also requiring all new vehicles and buildings to be zero emissions. That followed another 2020 candidate, former U.S. Rep. Beto O'Rourke's announcement of his own climate plan with a goal of reaching net zero emissions by 2050. Activists and some congressional Democrats supporting a Green New Deal want an even faster timeline: transform the nation's electric grid to 100 percent clean energy in just 10 years. ...
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/07052019/100-percent-clean-energy-map-inslee-washington-california-puerto-rico?amp

What a load of garbage this is .... given the majority of electricity in WA. is already supplied by Hydro (is it 85% or 90%? who cares! )

What this means in reality is NOT that Washington [State] Commits to 100% Clean Energy but instead it is committing to ~20% Clean Energy because the rest of the Energy used in WA. (and it's GHG emissions) has nothing to do with Electricity!

(big sigh)

Spin, BS and Lies doesn't only come from the politicians but they are certainly professionals at it.

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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #521 on: May 14, 2019, 03:17:01 AM »
Not to mention that hydro is not without significant environmental consequences.

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« Reply #522 on: May 14, 2019, 07:00:05 AM »
... Which is why we are shutting down hydro plants in Sweden and Norway builds more.  ::)
https://www.lrf.se/mitt-lrf/nyheter/vastra-gotaland/2018/12/smaskalig-vattenkraft-norge-bygger-nytt-sverige-lagger-ner/

If someone translates that, no there are no Elephants here, ÄlvRäddarna ~ River Saviours or something like that. :)
They are highly vocal here (as the first article describes as well) and now part of the Waterkeeper Alliance. A short description of their environmentalism is found in this english article:
https://waterkeeper.org/saving-salmon-swedish-baltic-rivers-waterkeeper/
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“If the rural parts of northern Sweden are to prosper,” said Jan Wejdmark, “we need to make wise decisions on how to use natural resources in the most sustainable way. A growing tourism industry which incorporates fly fishing for salmon is definitely one way to do that.”
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« Reply #523 on: May 14, 2019, 09:09:56 AM »
https://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=WA#tabs-4
for January 2019 most recent data
63%hydro
71%hydro +other renewables
79.8%carbon neutral this includes hydro+ nuclear + other renewables
so eventually 29% new renewables

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/05/jay-insles-climate-plan-keeping-it-100/588652/
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On Friday, Governor Jay Inslee of Washington announced a major plank of his climate-focused platform for president: a three-part plan to reshape the U.S. auto market, building code, and power grid over the next decade and a half.

You could call it the 100-100-100 plan. Inslee would require that, by 2030, 100 percent of new cars sold in the United States must be fully electric, 100 percent of U.S. electricity must come from carbon-neutral sources, and 100 percent of newly constructed buildings must emit no greenhouse gases from their kitchens, chimneys, or heating systems.

He would also mandate that, by 2035, 100 percent of U.S. electricity be generated by zero-emissions sources

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The agenda mirrors many of the policies that Inslee has piloted in Washington. Next week, the governor will sign a bill committing the Evergreen State to a carbon-neutral grid by 2030, and a zero-emissions grid by 2045.

Since Washington isn't going to build new nuclear and no new dams thats 20% new renewables by 2030. That's not nothing even if its not as much as other states need to do. The reason the goal is 2030 and not earlier is utilities are concerned about how to maintain a reliable grid with no dispatchable generation. We will be an early test case for a large grid with 100% renewables.

The difference in Washington state between carbon neutral and zero emissions is only 1.2% biomass and 0.1% landfill gas. That biomass is mostly from a few lumber mills that burn their sawdust to power their mills. The only other biomass energy producer I am aware of is from broken pallets from the port of Seattle which are burned for the steam plant.

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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #525 on: May 14, 2019, 01:27:52 PM »
 :o   :o   :o

30 second Bill Nye video at the link.

Colin Jones (@colinjones) 5/13/19, 12:52 AM
“What I’m saying is the planet’s on fucking fire” - @BillNye
https://twitter.com/colinjones/status/1127798860603113473
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« Reply #526 on: May 14, 2019, 05:30:03 PM »
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Most writing about technology and climate change still concentrates on mitigation—i.e., reducing emissions, by means of clean energy sources, better batteries, sleek electric vehicles, and so on—or, if all else fails, heroic efforts like engineering the atmosphere to reflect more sunlight back into space. These technologies are often futuristic and cool.

This is the result of a careful co-opting of the environmental message away from doing anything that will help the biosphere, and shifting it toward a social engineering message that seeks to stimulate neoliberal growth economies by turning the climate crisis into a huge money spinner.

No longer is environmentalism about pictures of trees or fuzzy owls who's habitats we'd like to salvage by slowing growth capitalism and it's ideologies. Instead, those symbols have been replaced with western industrial symbols of resource sucking windmills and solar panels that are made by razing the biosphere even further. The message has been carefully co-opted, and the narrative slowly switched. All criticisms of the growth system itself have been removed from the narrative and replaced with a corporate friendly solution that supports renewed growth in their stalling economies. They want investment vehicles, that's all it's about.

The Davos crowd calls it 'the fourth industrial revolution' ... but it isn't called that in the messaging. They even airbrush that out of their invented darlings pictures for the general public to consume. The environmental crisis brought on by the economic growth mentality is very real, but the mainstream solutions being marketed for it are a story of the careful capture and co-opting of a message to serve corporate growth markets only, not to realistically address the problem created through ... growth markets.

"The ‘one kid immediately got twenty supporters’ – from a Swedish network for sustainable business. What is going on is the launch of a global campaign to usher in a required consensus for the Paris Agreement, the New Green Deal and all climate related policies and legislation written by the power elite – for the power elite. This is necessary in order to unlock the trillions of dollars in funding by way of massive public demand."

Notice what was airbrushed out here for the public? This is the wrong kind of green. We need less growth, not more. The precious metals for this tech are harvested by razing the very forests in the Congo that Jane Goodall fought to save for her chimps. The fourth industrial revolution is about money, not environmentalism.


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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #527 on: May 14, 2019, 06:25:08 PM »
Welcome, Tim, to the ASIF.  I see you've been lurking for a while. (Smart!) :)

Yup, 'Power' likes to co-opt.  It is a challenge to manifest one's power without creating opportunities for 'Power' to (at least) attempt co-opting.

I hear 'Them' saying, "But Jane Goodall's quote was more important than the theme and purpose of our conference!"  :o
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #528 on: May 17, 2019, 02:01:09 AM »
Kris Karnauskas (@OceansClimateCU) 5/16/19, 6:22 PM
With >2100 respondents so far, there's 3 days left to cast your own CO2 prediction. Not your hope, but your prediction.
https://twitter.com/oceansclimatecu/status/1129150102466023424

[Climate Scientist] Katharine Hayhoe (@KHayhoe) 5/14/19, 4:53 PM
Full disclosure, my personal guess is that global carbon emissions continue upward but bending slowly down from 8.5 until we hit a collective “oh shit“ moment followed by rapid decarbonization. Exactly when that moment occurs will determine where we end up between [RCP] 6.0 and 4.5.
https://twitter.com/khayhoe/status/1128402939612160010

Kris Karnauskas (@OceansClimateCU) 5/16/19, 6:22 PM
Introducing RCP-Hayhoe, a.k.a. the "oh sh** scenario.
https://twitter.com/oceansclimatecu/status/1129150099659972608
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Katharine Hayhoe (@KHayhoe) 5/16/19, 6:37 PM
I love this. Sort of […] but I do think the inflection point will occur a decade or even two earlier than that due to the impact of compound/sequential extreme events. Could you adjust? I want to use this in my presentations from now on!!
https://twitter.com/khayhoe/status/1129153917261160448

Kris Karnauskas (@OceansClimateCU) 5/16/19, 7:28 PM
Behold, RCP-Hayhoe "oh sh** 2045" edition. I might just have to run a GCM simulation with this. (really)
https://twitter.com/oceansclimatecu/status/1129166874112024577
(Second Graph)
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« Reply #529 on: May 17, 2019, 04:21:50 PM »
The Guardian will now be replacing the term "climate sceptic" with "climate science denier"

Link >> https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/may/17/why-the-guardian-is-changing-the-language-it-uses-about-the-environment

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« Reply #530 on: May 18, 2019, 08:15:35 AM »
From the captain obvious department, but good to have it documented:

A Major Coal Company Went Bust. Its Bankruptcy Filing Shows That It Was Funding Climate Change Denialism.

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Several of the groups that receive funding from Cloud Peak Energy have used aggressive tactics to attempt to discredit environmentalists. The Center for Consumer Freedom, one of the groups listed in the coal company’s filing, is part of a sprawling network of front groups set up by a lobbyist named Rick Berman geared toward attacking green groups such as the Sierra Club and Food & Water Watch as dangerous radicals.

Other organizations quietly bankrolled by Cloud Peak Energy have directly shaped state policy. The company provided funding to the American Legislative Exchange Council, a group that provides template legislation to state lawmakers. The model bills promote the fossil fuel agenda. One model bill declares that there is a “great deal of scientific uncertainty” around climate change; others are designed to repeal environmental regulations on coal-burning power plants.

Link >> https://theintercept.com/2019/05/16/coal-industry-climate-change-denial-cloud-peak-energy/

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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #531 on: May 20, 2019, 03:41:39 PM »
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This year's graduating seniors are handing the mic to climate change
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The Class of 0000 speech will echo the sense of urgency Happel and other young people feel about the future of their homes and their livelihoods. “We’re taking zero excuses. We want zero emissions. There’s zero time to waste,” Evans said.
Speakers will also vow to vote only for 2020 candidates with plans to get to zero emissions.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2019/05/class-of-0000/

~1-Minute video at the link:
Grads everywhere are using the same commencement speech to fight climate change.
https://twitter.com/attn/status/1129408735317614597
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #532 on: May 21, 2019, 07:00:23 PM »
The Military Is the Largest Single User of Fossil Fuels. Elizabeth Warren Wants to Change That.
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Last week, the Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren released a climate proposal focused on the military, calling for the Department of Defense (DOD) to decrease emissions while increasing the military's readiness for climate change. It's the latest addition to a series of climate proposals from the 2020 presidential hopeful, who has also released plans to ban offshore drilling and up renewable energy generation.
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The Pentagon has long-recognized climate change as a threat to national security, although the lens through which the DOD has historically viewed the issue has been one of preparation and resiliency, rather than prevention and reduction of emissions.

Extreme weather is already affecting the military's readiness today. "The DOD doesn't use live fire munitions when there's a drought out West, because it could start a wildfire," says Conger, noting that drought conditions are expected to become more common in that region. Sea level rise and severe storms can damage infrastructure and eat up resources. "Nuisance flooding is only an appropriate term when you don't have impacts and, frankly, when you flood portions of the base you have operational impacts," he says. "The main road into Norfolk Naval Station, which is the largest Navy base in the world, floods several times a year, and within the next 20 years or so, they're expecting it to flood daily."

Warren noted that hurricanes left Camp Lejeune in North Carolina and Tyndall Air Force Base in Florida with billions of dollars in damages each last year; extreme flooding in Nebraska left the Offutt Air Force Base with nearly half a billion dollars worth of damages. ...
https://psmag.com/environment/the-military-is-the-largest-single-user-of-fossil-fuels-elizabeth-warren-wants-to-change-that
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #533 on: May 25, 2019, 04:25:31 PM »
Re:  U.S. Congressfolk who follow climate scientists on Twitter.
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About 2 weeks ago, I wrote a thread on which twitter accounts owned by US Members of Congress were following climate scientists on Twitter.
Time for a follow-up.

2/ As a reminder, the premise of the little experiment was to compare 538 twitter accounts belonging to Members of Congress with an excellent list of >2300 climate scientists on Twitter created by @KHayhoe....

3/ In the original thread, I found that 47 Members of Congress had twitter accounts that were following at least one climate scientist.
However, after writing that thread, several climate scientists announced getting new followers, e.g. ....

4/ So, I thought it would be interesting to take second look.
Rerunning the analysis, I now find that 70 Members of Congress are following climate scientist on Twitter, 23 more than 2 weeks ago.

That's a 48% jump.  :)

5/ Obviously, we may be talking about the actions of their social media managers rather than the politicians themselves. But even if it is just their staff, it is nice to see them paying attention to climate scientists and having an interest in building a connection.  ...
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1132230833627193349.html

Subtweets, and details of who and how many, at the link.
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #534 on: May 26, 2019, 04:16:02 PM »
This is a notoriously progressive website that I visit often. It has a very high visit rate. I was encouraged to find what is perhaps the most concise and thorough review of climate change that I have ever run across on a general website. This site likely does not reach many denialists but it will certainly inform many who have a vague fear of climate change but lack the understanding that many here have.

https://crooksandliars.com/2019/05/just-160-years-humans-wrecked-earths


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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #535 on: May 27, 2019, 06:38:09 PM »
Young People Blame Climate Change for Their Small Retirement Accounts
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While most millennials say they are not saving because they simply can’t afford to, for others it’s about the feeling that they may not have a future to save for, says Matt Fellowes, chief executive officer of United Income, an online retirement investment platform based in Washington, D.C.

“There is a certain fatalism in this population relative to more recent generations,” Fellowes says. “Psychologically, this population has had more shocks to expectations about their futures than past generations. From a perception point of view, I hear a lot of cynicism about the ability to build retirement savings or whether they will be able to retire at all.”

Climate change may also have direct, and devastating, effects on the finances of young people, an August 2016 study from environmental advocacy organization NextGen Climate found. The median 21-year-old college graduate in the class of 2015 will lose over $126,000 in income over her lifetime to climate-change-induced costs and $187,000 in wealth if that income were to have been saved and invested, the study, titled “The Price Tag of Being Young,” found. ...
https://www.barrons.com/articles/millennials-saving-for-retirement-51558676997

Here’s a link to the story via Apple News: https://apple.news/AU3hn3Gp_TtyD2cx3uoS59A
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #536 on: May 27, 2019, 06:55:53 PM »
Eric Holthaus on Twitter: "This is amazing. In Europe, early results of the #EUelections2019 show the Green Party with its best ever result, especially among young voters where it is now the overwhelming party of choice. A better world is possible, and it's becoming more likely by the day.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/ericholthaus/status/1132741884164694018
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How young Germans (18-24 years old) have voted in #EUElections2019 according to @ARDde:
Greens: 34%
Conservative CDU/CSU: 11%
Social Democrat SPD: 8%
Left-wing party: 8%
Liberal FDP: 8%
Satirical „Party“: 8%
Right-wing extremist AfD: 5%

Other perspectives at the link/replies.
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #537 on: May 27, 2019, 07:34:25 PM »
Satirical „Party“: 8%

The Party is a very good party! \o/

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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #538 on: May 28, 2019, 01:32:34 AM »

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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #539 on: May 28, 2019, 07:11:53 AM »
Tom, Breitbart is not a news source. It's a propaganda network for the Nazis. Please don't share this dirt here.

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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #540 on: May 28, 2019, 07:40:06 AM »
Re: Breitbart is not a news source. It's a propaganda network

Mmmm. So are the rest. But if you prefer your propaganda from the horse's mouth, here is the word from the vatican, il papa at the holy see

"We live at a time when profits and losses seem to be more highly valued than lives and deaths, and when a company’s net worth is given precedence over the infinite worth of our human family. You are here today to reflect on how to remedy this profound crisis caused by a confusion of our moral ledger with our financial ledger."

"We still reckon as profit what threatens our very survival."

https://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/speeches/2019/may/documents/papa-francesco_20190527_climate-change.pdf

Decades ago www.va was the shortest web address around. It still works, of course, as one might expect from a 2Kyr old organization. But these days it redirects to something complicated with a lot of scripting.

I would get a huge laff if i found out the jesuits are in charge of the web scripting.

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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #541 on: May 28, 2019, 11:57:31 AM »
So are the rest

Are they Sidd? You tell me.

Do you really think i.e. the BBC is a propaganda outlet? If so, for whom?

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« Reply #542 on: May 28, 2019, 12:46:23 PM »
So are the rest

Are they Sidd? You tell me.

Do you really think i.e. the BBC is a propaganda outlet? If so, for whom?

I would presume for Britain?

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« Reply #543 on: May 28, 2019, 12:57:25 PM »
I would presume for Britain?

It's funded by the public. So, presumably for the people?

BTW, check this one out >> https://www.adfontesmedia.com/media-bias-chart-3-1-minor-updates-based-constructive-feedback/

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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #544 on: May 28, 2019, 01:44:06 PM »
The BBC in some aspects could be considered propaganda for a certain establishment right-wing point of view (especially after Cameron,) but to put that on the same level of complete disconnect from facts or reality as is Breitbart's stock in trade is ludicrous.

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« Reply #545 on: May 28, 2019, 01:54:44 PM »
Are you saying that Breitbart made up the Pope's speech, and Francis never made it?
I don't care about the bias of a news source if I am posting a specific fact. AFAIK the Pope's statement is not a hoax.

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« Reply #546 on: May 28, 2019, 01:58:22 PM »
I would presume for Britain?

It's funded by the public. So, presumably for the people?

BTW, check this one out >> https://www.adfontesmedia.com/media-bias-chart-3-1-minor-updates-based-constructive-feedback/
If the BBC deliberately peddle lies they will be in trouble. (They did occasionally during WW2 but not nearly enough to keep the Government happy). Its masthead says   "Nation shall speak peace unto Nation" while Lord Reith said its purpose was to "inform, educate, entertain".

FOX News, Breitbart etc deliberately peddle lies. In many countries the media are totally controlled by the Government and will peddle lies, or more often simply not report something the Government does not like.

So the BBC is not a propaganda organisation if its purpose is to "inform, educate, entertain", and is a propaganda organisation if its purpose is defined by  "Nation shall speak peace unto Nation".

Most media organisations are propaganda organisations (used to promote a political cause or point of view).

But for me it is more important that I still like the BBC and still think Breitbart and Fox are shit.
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #547 on: May 28, 2019, 02:03:29 PM »
Are you saying that Breitbart made up the Pope's speech, and Francis never made it?

No, i'm saying:

Tom, Breitbart is not a news source. It's a propaganda network for the Nazis. Please don't share this dirt here.

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I don't care

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« Reply #548 on: May 28, 2019, 02:28:29 PM »
OK, could you please give me a list of all the news sources you do not want me to use? And will you include Liberal as well as Conservative sources in the list?

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« Reply #549 on: May 28, 2019, 02:35:05 PM »
OK, could you please give me a list of all the news sources you do not want me to use? And will you include Liberal as well as Conservative sources in the list?

I've done so upthread>> https://www.adfontesmedia.com/media-bias-chart-3-1-minor-updates-based-constructive-feedback/

Everything in the red box labelled as 'Nonsense'.

I'd consider myself 'radically left', but i would never consider sharing stuff from the left side of the 'Nonsense' section, even if legit in a specific case. This is just basic media hygiene IMHO.