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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #750 on: December 28, 2019, 02:55:27 PM »
blumenkraft:
Most of their pictures make them look oldish.
Shame most of them won't live long enough to see if they were wrong.
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #751 on: December 28, 2019, 04:41:27 PM »
^^
I'm sure most at least are very aware that what they've been spouting is BS. Very expensive BS, but BS nonetheless.


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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #752 on: December 28, 2019, 05:42:30 PM »
blumenkraft:
Most of their pictures make them look oldish.
Shame most of them won't live long enough to see if they were wrong.

Even more of a shame they exist in the first place. :(
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #753 on: December 28, 2019, 07:29:20 PM »
2019 in 5 words.

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Greta Thunberg (@GretaThunberg) 12/28/19, 9:16 AM
Our house is on fire.

#2019in5words
https://twitter.com/gretathunberg/status/1210927616229826560
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #754 on: December 29, 2019, 07:09:37 PM »
I must admit I was well down the list and thinking, what happened to Singer, Monckton and Spencer.  Then there they were, tucked away at the end.

I was a tad disappointed to find that Singers past activities to delay Tobacco legislation, by casting doubt on the impact on humans.  Even though both he and his employers knew it was true. Seems to have been lost.  It is a very important fact.

As for shaming them?  You have no chance beause they don't interact with the world which believes (knows), differently.
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #755 on: December 29, 2019, 07:47:17 PM »

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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #756 on: December 29, 2019, 09:51:54 PM »
A sad truth, i'm afraid.  :-\
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #757 on: January 01, 2020, 04:32:49 PM »
Skeptical Science website

"While putting together the @skepticscience recap for 2019 one interesting development stood out: after the spike for unique visits in September the number didn't drop back completely but seems to have stabilised at a distinctly higher level.
Read https://skepticalscience.com/2019-SkS-Review.html#Website for more.”

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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #758 on: January 03, 2020, 09:00:02 PM »
A buyout program is being offered to homes in Texas in locations that have flooded repeatedly.

Upcoming Events for our Buyout Program
https://montgomerycountypolicereporter.com/upcoming-events-for-our-buyout-program/

Montgomery County homes vulnerable to repeat flooding issues
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“Unfortunately, 100-137 homes [typically] flood when there is torrential rains, and some of these homes have flooded seven and eight times,” Goodman said. “But in Harvey, we had [hundreds of] homes that actually flooded, many of which had never flooded before. A lot of those homeowners had no flood insurance because they never had to worry about [flooding] before.”

For Conroe-area subdivisions along the West Fork of the San Jacinto River, like River Plantation, Harvey was not the first flooding event to tear through their communities. Now, local officials are considering projects and ordinances to address flooding concerns. ...
https://communityimpact.com/houston/conroe-montgomery/editors-pick/2018/04/19/montgomery-county-homes-vulnerable-to-repeat-flooding-issues/
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #759 on: January 03, 2020, 10:09:26 PM »
Toronto did this in the aftermath of a hurricane in the '50's. The wooded ravines and riverside parks are seen as valued assets.
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #760 on: January 07, 2020, 04:41:26 PM »
UK media to Australia politician:
"You're not a climate sceptic, you're a climate denier."
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"You're facing one of the greatest crises you've ever faced and there is you Mr Kelly, with respect a senior politician, who still doesn't think this has anything to do with a heating up planet.

"Nothing to see here, nothing to worry about as virtually your entire country is eviscerated by fires - it is quite extraordinary."
https://amp.9news.com.au/article/ed8dbdc8-30d0-4547-bd60-d7d15e4da61f
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #761 on: January 07, 2020, 09:50:31 PM »
Daniel Flöjt (@MediYoga_ax) on Twitter:
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #762 on: January 14, 2020, 05:11:21 PM »
World’s largest asset manager shifts focus to climate change
Associated Press - 2 hours ago

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BlackRock, the world’s largest asset manager, will make climate change central to its investment decisions.

Founder and CEO Laurence Fink, who oversees the management of about $7 trillion in funds, said in his influential annual letter to CEOs Tuesday that he believes we are “on the edge of a fundamental reshaping of finance” because of a warming planet.

Climate change has become the top issue raised by clients, Fink said, and it will affect everything from municipal bonds to long-term mortgages for homes.

The New York firm is taking immediate action, exiting investments in coal used to generate power, and it will begin asking clients to disclose their climate-related risks.

“Because capital markets pull future risk forward, we will see changes in capital allocation more quickly than we see changes to the climate itself,” Fink wrote in the letter. “In the near future – and sooner than most anticipate – there will be a significant reallocation of capital.”
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« Reply #763 on: January 14, 2020, 05:55:54 PM »
U.S. Flood Risk Model to Be Publicly Available in Boon for Homebuyers
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NEW YORK (Reuters) - A climate research organization will offer access to a risk model that predicts the probability of flooding for homes across the United States, giving the public a look at the data institutional investors use to gauge risk.
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better data for real people ... When it becomes available.

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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #764 on: January 14, 2020, 08:09:59 PM »
From the Financial Review
“BlackRock, the world's largest fund manager, is dumping more than half a billion dollars in thermal coal shares from all of its actively managed portfolios, as part of a more active global stance on climate change driven by chief executive Larry Fink.
The coal ban, which includes any company earning 25 per cent of its revenue from thermal coal,“

Seems to me to be a pretty big (25%) escape clause.

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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #765 on: January 14, 2020, 10:17:59 PM »
I guess we should encourage baby steps by BlackRock.  What about petroleum and natural gas? What about loans to FF companies?

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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #766 on: January 15, 2020, 04:06:35 PM »
If it is BlackRock they also see just see better ways to earn money going forward. That is no big surprise. To them it does not really make a difference if their dollar comes from greenwashing or progress.

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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #767 on: January 17, 2020, 08:47:14 PM »
U.S.

For the first time, the Alarmed are the single largest group of 'Global Warming's Six Americas' at 31%. Over the past 5 years, they have tripled in size and are now 3x the number of Dismissive in the US (who have decreased).
https://climatecommunication.yale.edu/publications/for-the-first-time-the-alarmed-are-now-the-largest-of-global-warmings-six-americas/
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #768 on: January 17, 2020, 09:35:06 PM »
Sigmetnow:
I’ve gone from concerned to alarmed in that time frame.
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« Reply #769 on: January 17, 2020, 09:50:45 PM »
Sigmetnow:
I’ve gone from concerned to alarmed in that time frame.

Me, too.  Although I was already close to Alarmed in 2014.
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« Reply #770 on: January 22, 2020, 12:58:48 AM »
Oil and gas sector ‘losing its social licence to operate’, UK boss warns
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Tim Eggar, chairman of the UK’s Oil and Gas Authority (OGA), sent shockwaves through the industry on Wednesday (15 January) when he said growing public awareness about climate change was putting the sector’s very survival at stake.

Shifting public attitudes towards climate change is “the biggest challenge” facing the oil and gas industry, Eggar said in a speech to industry leaders this week.

“Clearly, climate change is happening right now. That debate is over,” he told industry delegates in Aberdeen, according to a transcript of his speech published on the OGA’s website.

The oil and gas industry must “act much, much faster and go farther in reducing the carbon footprint” he said, adding: “This requires ambitious thinking, capital investment and bold leadership. Action not just talk or more analysis.”

Failing to do so would have dire consequences for the oil and gas sector, Eggar warned, saying the industry’s very survival is at stake.

“The licence to operate for the industry has changed fundamentally and – unlike the oil price – forever,” he said. “If the industry wants to survive and contribute to the energy transition it has to adapt,” he stressed. ...
https://www.euractiv.com/section/energy/news/oil-and-gas-sector-losing-its-social-licence-to-operate-uk-boss-warns/
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« Reply #771 on: January 22, 2020, 09:31:22 PM »
U.S.

Has Conservative Utah Turned a Corner on Climate Change?
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When Utah lawmakers start their legislative session next week, they'll have a roadmap waiting for them that could become one of the nation's most aggressive climate action plans in a Republican-led state—and potentially a path forward for other conservative states looking to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

That the proposal even exists signals a major shift in thinking in a state where legislators for years have publicly questioned—and sometimes ridiculed—climate science. 

Led by a University of Utah economics think tank, proponents of the seven-point strategy managed to dodge political potholes by emphasizing widely supported goals like cleaning up air pollution and stressing economic benefits, an approach some policy experts say could provide a model for bipartisan action on climate change in other conservative states.

"That's the sort of framing that can help change the conversation in a way that does bridge partisan divides," said Jay Turner, an environmental politics and policy researcher at Wellesley College and co-author of the book "The Republican Reversal: Conservatives and the Environment from Nixon to Trump."

 Conservatives in the State Capitol haven't abandoned fossil fuels. They actively support lawsuits to open up West Coast shipping terminals and maintain a $53 million fund to help build export capacity for shipping Utah coal overseas. But widespread public concern about air pollution has also made them more receptive to emissions reductions.

Utah's shift started with high school students raising their voices. In 2018, they succeeded in persuading lawmakers to pass a resolution acknowledging the risks of climate change that Republican Gov. Gary Herbert signed. Then, last year, the legislature voted to provide $200,000 for the University of Utah's business school to report on the state's air pollution and climate change problems and recommend solutions. ...
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/21012020/utah-climate-change-plan-conservative-legislature-coal-emissions-salt-lake
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #772 on: January 23, 2020, 04:06:16 PM »
UN Human Rights Committee issues first ruling in favor of climate refugees

Full sentece in pdf. here: https://tbinternet.ohchr.org/_layouts/15/treatybodyexternal/Download.aspx?symbolno=CCPR/C/127/D/2728/2016&Lang=en

(Sorry, don't know how to take extracts from the document, but it addresses interesting views on the consequences of climate change)

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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #773 on: February 08, 2020, 05:15:11 PM »
Thread by @Ben_Inskeep:
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Today, I am pleased to announce a bold and ambitious commitment:

I change my diet to go 100% healthy food by 2050, and 45% healthy food by 2030 relative to my diet from 15 years ago when I was a college freshman.

Note that this commitment is contingent on my employer giving me full cost recovery for the deep fryer I just bought, but won't fully use in the future, as well as the higher upfront costs of fruits and vegetables.

If I am unable to eat healthy food myself, because it doesn't taste as delicious as fried food, I will still claim credit for eating the healthy food by paying my fiance to eat it for me

If you try to pass a law requiring me to do any of this, I will spend $38 million to defeat it and make tens of millions more in political contributions to your political enemies.

No, you are not allowed to weigh me or check my cholesterol or scrutinize my caloric intake. How dare you ask.

Why don't you trust me??

I don't know what soundcloud is so just listen to women, POC, and Indigenous people on climate, e.g.: @GretaThunberg @vanessa_vash @LicypriyaK @MaryHeglar @leahstokes @jnoisecat @amywestervelt @emorwee @maryannehitt @DrKateMarvel @CleanGridView @KHayhoe @rgunns @zhaabowekwe
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« Reply #774 on: February 14, 2020, 02:50:59 AM »
France to limit access to Western Europe's highest mountain in conservation effort
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President Emmanuel Macron said Thursday that France will move to limit access to Mont Blanc, Western Europe's tallest mountain and a famous tourist attraction, as part of a broad effort to protect the country's biodiversity in the face of climate change. ...
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/02/13/world/macron-mont-blanc-climate-change-tourist-overcrowding/index.html
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« Reply #775 on: May 07, 2020, 11:21:48 PM »
Mayor’s bold new Streetspace plan will overhaul London’s streets
06 May 2020
Transformation of London’s roads to be fast-tracked, giving space to new cycle lanes and wider pavements to enable social distancing
Landmark locations to benefit from temporary bike routes and more space for walking to reduce pressure on Tube and buses
Clean, green and sustainable travel to be at the heart of London’s recovery
Cycling could increase 10-fold and walking five-fold post-lockdown

https://www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/mayoral/mayors-bold-plan-will-overhaul-capitals-streets

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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #776 on: May 11, 2020, 06:54:17 AM »
Letters: After coronavirus, focus on the climate emergency

Also signed by Prof Eric Rignot.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/10/after-coronavirus-focus-on-the-climate-emergency
by (see 4th paragraph for list)


  Fist four paragraphs:
Last month, the Guardian quoted Fatih Birol, executive director of the International Energy Agency, saying if we put post-pandemic bailout money in the wrong place “we will lock ourselves in a dirtier energy system, making it much more difficult to reach our climate targets” (‘Coronavirus profiteers’ condemned as polluters gain bailout billions, 17 April).

We beg to differ. It is game over for preventing dangerous climate change now that governments are planning the cheapest and quickest return to consumption. Riding on the wave of cheap oil and fossil-fuel bailouts is incompatible with keeping the average global temperature rise below 2C, let alone 1.5C.

Even if the world agreed to maintain all the pandemic-enforced restrictions on travel and consumption, the emissions saved would amount to almost nothing, compared with what’s needed to achieve the Paris agreement’s climate targets. Yet whether it’s to discourage mass fatalism, or prevent the very worst of what the future threatens, those of us with this knowledge still cling to “yes we can”. In this story, it is always five to midnight; it is always the last chance to prevent disaster. In contrast, collective action on climate can only grow out of complete honesty. It is time to acknowledge our collective failure to respond to climate change, identify its consequences and accept the massive personal, local, national and global adaptation that awaits us all.

Dr Wolfgang Knorr Department of Physical Geography and Ecosystem Science, Lund University, Prof Eric Rignot University of California, Irvine, Prof Rik Leemans Wageningen University and Research, Prof Andy Morse School of Environmental Sciences, University of Liverpool, Prof Dennis Baldocchi Department of Environmental Science, Policy and Management, University of California, Berkeley, Prof Thomas Hickler Senckenberg Biodiversity and Climate Research Centre, Prof Francis E Putz Department of Biology, University of Florida, Prof Maarten Krol Wageningen University, Dr Alberte Bondeau Institut Méditerranéen de Biodiversité et d’Ecologie, Aix-Marseille Université, CNRS, Prof Wolfgang Cramer Institut Méditerranéen de Biodiversité et d’Ecologie, Aix-Marseille Université, CNRS, Prof Paul Palmer University of Edinburgh, Dr James G Dyke Global Systems Institute, University of Exeter
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #777 on: May 13, 2020, 10:01:57 AM »
I think I can put this here, seeing as there's no chance for any serious action on climate change without a new internationalism.

A new International movement has been launched that includes some big names (including Noam Chomsky, former President of Ecuador Rafael Correa, Naomi Klein, Yanis Varoufakis, etc). It's being called "Progressive International."

https://progressive.international/



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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #778 on: May 13, 2020, 08:35:01 PM »
Well spotted, Nanning.

HOPE.....

Fatih Birol, executive director of the International Energy Agency, saying if we put post-pandemic bailout money in the wrong place “we will lock ourselves in a dirtier energy system, making it much more difficult to reach our climate targets”

EXPERIENCE

We beg to differ. It is game over

Letter signed by a lot of well-known scientists.
[/quote]

That clears the air a bit. Where those scientists lead, it may well be that many follow.. (Damn..That stupid HOPE thing just won't lie down and die.)
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #779 on: May 14, 2020, 07:43:31 AM »
HOPE

doesn't want to lie down and die because it is a human fantasy and has no real meaning. (the proof is too complex to write here)



ACCEPTANCE

This civilisation is going to collapse. There is nothing we can do about it. It is game over. The sooner the better because of the accelerating total destruction of life on Earth and its ecosystems by civilisation's high technology and eternal growth paradigm.

Rich people are never satisfied and always want more and bigger. These people (families) have had all the power for centuries or longer because of accumulated (inherited) wealth and they won't stop with doing the only thing they know. This insanity will never voluntarily stop.
In my estimate, collapse will happen before 2030. I see more trends than others because of my world view from outside of civilisation.


CHOOSE A SIDE

I am on the side of all non-civilisation life-on-Earth
  as opposed to
the civilisation side that's busy to heedlessly destroy all life-on-Earth by technology (pushing buttons).

There are no other sides. Civilisation is life-on-Earth's biggest threat ever since the great oxidation event.

To get a good idea of what's lost and the role of civilisation in it, I recommend you read the first half of this book:
"The Unnatural History of the Sea" by Callum Roberts, 456 pages
https://islandpress.org/books/unnatural-history-sea


ACTION  (when choosing the side of living nature)

Don't participate in civilisation culture. Don't feed the system. Consume only local basic products if possible (by changing your diet, profession, where-you-live, 'lifestyle' etc) and do not accumulate wealth.
Personal emissions: Emit GHG only when absolutely necessary for survival.
The guilt of any personal carbon footprint should be unbearable. Also the guilt of stimulating biocides use, antibiotics use, deforestation, habitat destruction, toxic waste and the many transport miles and atrocities by buying intensive agri-business products should be unbearable.
Try to respect and salvage as much habitat and life as possible by buying organic and let living nature take its course. This means absolutely no more tidiness. No mowing the grass etc. No more control/domination. Move away from any supremacy over other lifeforms. Let the bugs sting (except when you see them do it; then don't kill). Use the lowest technology possible (or none) for any task.
Minimise non-compostable waste, potable water use, land use and energy use. No more 'making children' until the children have a future again.

They feel like large sacrifices in the beginning but you soon get used to it.
I am far down that route and willing to help if there are questions.
Before I forget: You will feel a much better and richer person. Doing it because it is the only right thing to do.

Soon? part 1 of "how to regain conscience"
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #780 on: May 14, 2020, 02:46:56 PM »
Of course many people can’t afford organic and would get in trouble with the city or neighborhood if the let the lawns go “natural”.
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« Reply #781 on: May 15, 2020, 12:44:45 AM »
Of course many people can’t afford organic and would get in trouble with the city or neighborhood if the let the lawns go “natural”.
Some cities have banned /discouraged the suburban lush lawn - e.g. Las Vegas.
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« Reply #783 on: May 22, 2020, 12:57:56 AM »
Spain unveils climate law to cut emissions to net zero by 2050
May 18, 2020
The government hopes the draft law, which would ban all new coal, oil and gas projects with immediate effect, will shape the recovery effort to Covid-19
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The Spanish government is due to present an ambitious draft law to cut the country’s carbon emissions to net zero by 2050 to Parliament on Tuesday.

Spain joins a handful of countries to have set out a legal binding strategy to end their contribution to global heating in the next 30 years.

The draft text, which follows a public consultation started in February 2019, sets the direction of economic recovery from the coronavirus pandemic.

“We would like to have presented this law in other conditions, several weeks ago,” said Spain’s vice president Teresa Ribera, who serves as the minister for the ecological transition, adding the draft bill had to be “a useful guide” to shape the recovery effort.

“This law offers us an incredible opportunity to debate about the country that we want to be,” she said.

Under the law, which still needs to be approved by Parliament, the government is pledging to make Spain’s electricity system 100% renewable by the middle of the century, ban all new coal, oil and gas extraction projects with immediate effect, end direct fossil fuel subsidies and make all new vehicles emission-free by 2040. ...
https://www.climatechangenews.com/2020/05/18/spain-unveils-climate-law-cut-emissions-net-zero-2050/
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