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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #1000 on: November 11, 2019, 04:32:16 AM »
I will pile on a bit. The next 48 hours are going to produce a potentially terrible situation concerning fire storms.

What boggles me is how the Govt is still ignoring climate change and denying the links between the coming events and climate change.

From the article:
People in bushfire-risk areas have been told to start thinking now about a survival plan and head to larger towns and built-up areas.

Commissioner Fitzsimmons warned, "we cannot guarantee a fire truck at every home" and encouraged early evacuation for those at risk.

"If you're not doing that tonight, you certainly need to be doing it early tomorrow morning," he said.

"We know the fires on the northern coast are not going to be contained ahead of tomorrow's weather, which means those fires are going to spread, they're going to spread quickly and spread aggressively."

A total fire ban is in place statewide for Monday and Tuesday and some schools have been closed.

Commissioner Fitzsimmons said more than 1,400 personnel from interstate had joined the firefighting effort in NSW and 400 more were set to arrive today ahead of tomorrow's dangerous conditions.

He said up to 20 firefighters had already accessed medical attention in hospitals as blazes intensified.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-11/nsw-bushfires-850000-hectares-destroyed-worst-to-come/11691038

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #1001 on: November 13, 2019, 04:24:54 PM »
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“Gagging climate change experts from speaking in the middle of a bushfire disaster is a new low from this government.”

Link >> https://tamino.wordpress.com/2019/11/13/gagging-climate-change-experts-from-speaking-in-the-middle-of-a-bushfire-disaster-is-a-new-low-from-this-government/
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #1002 on: November 17, 2019, 02:22:42 PM »
I liked this perspective on the Australian bush fires and was moved by the symbol of hope this person had. A longish but worthwhile read.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-17/bushfires-my-sons-birth-gives-me-hope/11709776

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #1003 on: November 17, 2019, 10:30:22 PM »
Hope is nice but she actually has to demand that future along with the other Australians. 
 
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #1004 on: November 18, 2019, 04:06:46 AM »
This is what it looks like when your government sells out the climate for votes
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“We can’t talk about climate because the country is burning.”

Let’s be clear about what this line of argument is.
It’s self-serving crap.
https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/nov/15/this-is-what-it-looks-like-when-your-government-sells-out-the-climate-for-votes
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #1005 on: November 20, 2019, 01:49:56 PM »
Australia fires: 'Catastrophic' alerts in South Australia and Victoria

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Where's the danger?
Fires in South Australia (SA) prompted emergency warnings on Wednesday as temperatures neared 45C (113F) in parts of the state, exacerbated by winds of up to 90km/h (55mph).

Officials switched off electricity to about 10,000 homes and businesses to reduce the risk of new fires. Such blazes are most commonly sparked by winds bringing down power lines.

"All areas of the state are in danger today, with the potential for fires which do start to be uncontrollable by fire crews," a Country Fire Service spokeswoman told the BBC.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-50483410
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #1006 on: November 24, 2019, 05:30:05 PM »
Koalas ‘Functionally Extinct’ After Australia Bushfires Destroy 80% Of Their Habitat
https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2019/11/23/koalas-functionally-extinct-after-australia-bushfires-destroy-80-of-their-habitat/amp/

As Australia experiences record-breaking drought and bushfires, koala populations have dwindled along with their habitat, leaving them “functionally extinct.”

The chairman of the Australian Koala Foundation, Deborah Tabart, estimates that over 1,000 koalas have been killed from the fires and that 80 percent of their habitat has been destroyed.

Functional extinction is when a population becomes so limited that they no longer play a significant role in their ecosystem and the population becomes no longer viable. While some individuals could reproduce, the limited number of koalas makes the long-term viability of the species unlikely and highly susceptible to disease.

Deforestation and bushfires destroy the main nutrient source of koalas, the eucalyptus tree. An adult koala will eat up to 2 pounds of eucalyptus leaves per day as its main staple of nutrients. While eucalyptus plants will grow back after a fire, it will take months, leaving no suitable food source for koalas and starvation a likely scenario for many.

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #1007 on: November 27, 2019, 05:10:47 PM »
Australia

Bushfires devastate rare and enchanting wildlife as 'permanently wet' forests burn
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The rainforests along the spine of the Great Dividing Range, between the Hunter River and southern Queensland, are remnants of Gondwana, the ancient supercontinent that broke up about 180 million years ago.  The forests are mountaintop islands that have been "permanently wet" for tens of millions of years. ...

"We are seeing fire going into these areas where fire is simply not meant to go," says Mr Graham, a fire specialist with the Nature Conservation Council.

Most of the focus of Australia's catastrophic fires has been on people and property — with the exception of koalas, which have come to symbolise the non-human costs. Beyond the koalas are many rare and fascinating creatures whose lives and homes have been destroyed, or remain threatened.

"The fauna in these landscapes requires permanently wet conditions, and many of the fauna species in these landscapes simply have no tolerance to fire," Mr Graham says.

The songbirds that live in these ancient wet forests have always lived there.  The Albert's Lyre Bird. The Rufous Scrub Bird. The Log Runner. The Tree Creeper. And, confusingly, the Cat Bird; a large, green rainforest bird that wails like a cat. They are internationally renowned. Birders from around the world come to see and hear them.

"These are global strongholds of the most ancient birds on the planet," Mr Graham says. ...
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-27/bushfires-devastate-ancient-forests-and-rare-wildlife/11733956
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #1008 on: December 02, 2019, 09:14:29 PM »
Grandmother dumps burnt remains of home at Parliament House in climate change protest

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A woman has brought the charred remains of her bushfire-ravaged home to Parliament House in Canberra, accusing both major political parties of failing to act on climate change.
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Ms Plesman, who is now living in a Grafton hotel, said she was furious when Mr Morrison offered prayers for victims.

"I lost my house, I lost my way of life — my whole community has — and while that was happening, the PM said that he didn't want us to talk about climate change, that this wasn't the time," she said.

"We weren't allowed to mention climate change and then [Mr Morrison] said that he was praying for us.

"I got really upset and really angry because I just felt that we needed a hell of a lot more than that.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-02/bushfire-victim-nsw-nymboida-climate-change-protest/11757082


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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #1009 on: December 04, 2019, 09:51:12 PM »
Aussie Wildfires - & only one week into summer....

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/04/living-through-endless-weeks-of-dirty-air-it-does-your-head-in-and-your-lungs#comment-136174805
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hawkeye634m ago

You do wonder if everyone in power today watched a film like The Day After Tomorrow and shouted at the screen "Why is no one listening to Dennis Quaid?"

Sunhead Darkspear6m ago

Remember kids.
ScoMo is an End Times Evangelical. He believes now is the time of Revelations, and they sky is black and the star are gone and the moon is red are all there in the 'prophecy' he believes in. This is good for him, he is Gods Elect Chosen to be Raptured to create The Earth anew after it is destroyed.
Sounds like a demented fairytale.

 hawkeye637m ago

The reason nothing gets done is because people in power think that human ingenuity will sort things out when the crises stop. They don't ever think there will be a day when they simply. don't. stop.

FriendlyFerret15m ago

Welcome to our world. Now it has come to the cities. No-one was worried elsewhere while the people of the Latrobe Valley lived int his for weeks and weeks while the mine was on fire. They didn't evacuate then, as they didn't care.
They can't evacuate now, as there is nowhere to go. Truth coming home.

LovelyDaffodils21m ago

I love a fire burnt country,
a land of searing plains,
of smoke-filled air and dust storms,
and a PM with no brains

Ingenui22m ago

Yep and we can still use open fireplaces and slow combustion wood heaters in the home on smokey winter days.
And gardeners can also continue to whip up more dust and pollution on these smokey windy days.
Who cares that the people can't breathe doggie?
gerontocrat28m ago

And only at the start of the summer.
When what were one-off events go on and and on...... - welcome to Global Heating.

Mark24635m ago

Are we actually allowed to talk about the fires yet? I mean, has the PM given his personal blessing for the conversation to begin? Or is it just too soon still?

marcusaureilius36m ago

Thought and prayers ffs

Scummo's nuremberg saluting in the house of the tongue talkers , pleading for a seat in the rapture.

Can it get worse?

Yes there's remnants of the east coast yet to burn.

Coming to a place near you over a summer of hell fire and brimstone.

daleaway41m ago

...And Australia is exporting its pollution:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/travel-troubles/117907806/how-australias-bushfires-turned-new-zealands-snowcapped-glaciers-red

We do wish you wouldn’t. We liked the Southern Alps the way they were.

indelibleink41m ago

Oh Dog, you tried to tell them what was coming. The scientist have been trying to tell them.
The Greens tried to tell them. Greta tried to tell them. The school kids tried to tell them. Extinction Rebellion tried to tell them. Old people and young people all over the world have tried to tell them.
But the denial message paid for and delivered by Murdoch and the others of the 1% over-rode the millions of voices who could see what was the eventual unthinkable truth.

And the political lemmings believed the denials. They responded with fervour to the smug dismissal of the putrid pollies that kids should be in school learning to dig coal, Adani is a 'good' foreign Australian, that Extinction Rebellion are a bunch of unemployed 'terrorists' who'll smack a fine police officer horse and want to steal your weekend.

What price the weekend now? You can still drive your ute.... but you cannot go outside because of the toxic air, and there is nowhere to go because all the good places are burning.
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #1010 on: December 05, 2019, 10:39:48 PM »
California Bans Insurers from Dropping Policies in Fire-Ravaged Areas
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-12-05/california-bans-insurers-from-pulling-policies-in-fire-ravaged-areas?_amp=true

State regulators on Thursday pulled the emergency brake on insurers fleeing California’s fire zones.

Insurance Commissioner Ricardo Lara announced a one-year moratorium banning insurers from not renewing policies for homeowners in wildfire-ravaged areas of the state.

“I have heard the same story again and again. People getting dropped by their insurance after decades,” Lara said. “To add insult to injury, many struggle to find coverage.”

... A California Department of Insurance report last year found that the number of homeowners in the wildland-urban interface who complained about getting dropped by their plans more than tripled from 2010 to 2016. Complaints about increased premiums rose 217%.

The state estimates that more than 1 million California homes are considered at high risk for wildfires.

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-wildfire-homeowners-insurance-20180830-story.html
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #1011 on: December 07, 2019, 09:58:37 AM »
Sydney Australia.
For the last month, fires have burned out of control throughout the State and near Sydney.
This has meant an entire month of smoke filled air..... and there is no end in sight.


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/dec/07/from-disbelief-to-dread-the-dismal-new-routine-of-life-in-sydneys-smoke-haze

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #1012 on: December 07, 2019, 04:05:14 PM »
^^
That's a very good read about rich city people living in a seemingly endless catastrophy. What the article describes is not living, but surviving. Thanks.
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #1013 on: December 08, 2019, 02:20:24 AM »
I live in Melbourne, the expectation for this year is we will be going through the same thing. It is so horribly dry and it is not going to be broken within the next three or four months.

Melbourne is not hot yet, thankfully. I am enjoying the cooler weather while it lasts, but when it hits in the coming week or two, it will not go away.

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #1014 on: December 08, 2019, 08:23:57 AM »
48C for weeks on end is not something to look forward to. I wish you strength and luck.



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https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2019/dec/07/queensland-fires-firenado-forms-as-australia-blazes-continue-video
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #1015 on: Today at 12:23:52 AM »
Our political leader have stated that we cant talk about climate change while the fires rage. He is being ignored but he refuses to acknowledge that climate change is happening and will not discuss it when brought up.

In the meantime......

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“We’ve got fires effectively stretching now from the Queensland border right down to our far south coast area.”
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That is about 600km long and does not include the Queensland fires which stretch further North.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/dec/09/bushfires-nsw-faces-lethal-conditions-as-temperatures-forecast-to-soar-past-40c

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #1016 on: Today at 08:14:41 AM »
Now is the time to read the smoke signals of 2019. Their message of doom is clear
  by Peter Lewis

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/10/now-is-the-time-to-read-the-smoke-signals-of-2019-their-message-of-doom-is-clear


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Or maybe the metaphor is more prosaic, that the haze is a tribute to the PM’s mastery at obscuring reality and harnessing disengagement in the pursuit and ultimate attainment of power.

We would stretch the analogy to describe the way he has invited the public to think of themselves as noble and quiet Australians who are happy to stand back as unions and charities and environmentalists and even lawyers have their rights to promote their public discourse whittled away.

And the haze would obscure the fact that what is happening here is happening around the globe, as privately owned social platforms usurp the traditional safeguards of democracy, spreading lies and anger that create the climate for authoritarian populists.

Of course there is nothing wrong with personal happiness – indeed it is something we should all aspire to – but what strikes me with this table is a growing disconnect between our personal world and the one that sustains it.

And as we zoom out the picture gets even more bleak. The planet is in strife and we know it. Except we are still doing OK so there’s no need to do anything now.

When unions are weakened, wages flatline and the economy stalls; when refugees are denied medical support, people die and we lose our moral compass; when coal burns, climates change, the Earth becomes more fragile, homes burn down and people die.
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