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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #800 on: May 17, 2019, 09:20:19 PM »
So, here they are...

"Black skies over Siberia as wildfires rage around the world’s oldest lake
By The Siberian Times reporter, 10 May 2019
Cries to urgently call state of emergency in Irkutsk region as it chokes in smoke."

http://siberiantimes.com/other/others/news/black-skies-over-siberia-as-wildfires-rage-around-the-worlds-oldest-lake/

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #801 on: May 20, 2019, 01:48:10 AM »
GOES west today, northern Alberta.
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #802 on: May 21, 2019, 03:15:49 AM »
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UPDATE: mandatory Evacuation Order issued for residents S & SE of the Town of High Level and South of the Bushe River Reserve. Evacuees must register at the Town of High Level Arena - 10101 105 Ave. Crews will be going door-to-door to notify residents.
https://twitter.com/youralberta/status/1130558951207055360
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #803 on: May 22, 2019, 02:13:54 PM »
CBC reports
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An out-of-control wildfire burning Tuesday near a town in northwestern Alberta is rated at the highest possible danger level, and the dry, windy weather means the danger is expected to increase this week, says Alberta Premier Jason Kenney.

"The fire is jumping from crown to crown of trees," Kenney said at a news conference Tuesday. "Unfortunately, the dry conditions in northern Alberta are expected to continue for the foreseeable future, with the fire danger possibly increasing this week."

The fire near the town of High Level is ranked as a Level 6, the top of the wildfire intensity scale. Increased fire danger is common during the spring because of the abundance of dry, flammable materials in the period between the snow melt and the green-up of the landscape.

Evacuation successful

The fire was within five kilometres of High Level but Kenney said no homes have been damaged and there are no known injuries as a result of the fire.



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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #804 on: May 27, 2019, 08:28:05 PM »

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #805 on: May 27, 2019, 08:39:54 PM »
I wonder what the results will be of all the rain in California. Lots of greens that will pop up.

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #807 on: June 04, 2019, 11:32:58 AM »
Canadian Wildfire Smoke Spreads Into the Eastern U.S.
https://wildfiretoday.com/2019/06/01/canadian-wildfire-smoke-spreads-into-the-eastern-u-s/

On Saturday smoke from the wildfires in Alberta, Canada was affecting parts of Washington, Oregon, Montana, North Dakota, Missouri, Minnesota, Iowa, South Dakota, and most of the states east of the Mississippi River — plus the Canadian provinces of Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba.





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Wildfire Smoke Swirls Over the Atlantic Ocean, Invades the UK   
https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/wildfire-smoke-swirls-over-atlantic-162441079.html

The skies in Edmonton, Canada were recently so red and smoky that a local meteorologist told NASA "it looked like we were on Mars."

Now, that prodigious wildfire smoke has left Canada, streamed thousands of miles across the Atlantic Ocean, and passed over the UK. On Monday morning, the UK Met Office posted imagery of the North American wildfire smoke sailing over the island nation.

https://mobile.twitter.com/metoffice/status/1135501635910811648
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #808 on: June 04, 2019, 12:05:37 PM »
CO levels look about normal so far. don't bother clicking video.

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #809 on: June 05, 2019, 06:07:56 PM »
1 Billion Acres At Risk For Catastrophic Wildfires, U.S. Forest Service Warns
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/05/729720938/1-billion-acres-at-risk-for-catastrophic-wildfires-u-s-forest-service-warns

The chief of the U.S. Forest Service is warning that a billion acres of land across America are at risk of catastrophic wildfires like last fall's deadly Camp Fire that destroyed most of Paradise, Calif.

... "When you look nationwide there's not any place that we're really at a fire season. Fire season is not an appropriate term anymore," Christiansen said in an interview with NPR at the agency's headquarters in Washington. ... "It's always fire season"

In line with a controversial Trump administration executive order pushing for "active forest management," the agency was directed to treat 3.5 million acres this year alone, though it's behind target because of weather and administrative holdups. Part of the administration policy has also included an attempt to ramp up commercial logging on federal lands, an objective that conservation groups say will not reduce fire risk, unlike clearing of the smaller diameter wood that the timber industry has so far found little market for.

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Total column (CO) carbon monoxide forecast - Copernicus Atmosphere Monitoring Service
https://atmosphere.copernicus.eu/charts/cams/carbon-monoxide-forecasts?facets=undefined&time=2019060500,3,2019060503&projection=classical_global&layer_name=composition_co_totalcolumn

Fire Activity - Copernicus Atmosphere Monitoring Service
https://atmosphere.copernicus.eu/charts/cams/fire-activity?facets=undefined&time=2019060400,24,2019060500&projection=classical_global

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #811 on: June 11, 2019, 09:39:58 PM »
Emergency generator, or solar + batteries, quickly becoming a must-have in California, where “fire season” is now year-long.
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< Can you add the new PG&E fire blackouts to storm watch for Powerwalls? Much needed feature in California...
Elon Musk (@elonmusk) 6/11/19, 1:32 AM
Storm Watch was active for hundreds of Powerwall customers this weekend as a result of @NWS Red Flag Fire Warnings in California, and we will continue to activate it whenever there advance awareness of a potential power outage or physical danger
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1138317952145534976

Tesla activated 'Storm Watch' for 'hundreds' of Powerwall owners over California fires
https://electrek.co/2019/06/11/tesla-storm-watch-powerwall-california-fires/

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May 30:  California approves wide power outages to prevent wildfires
The plans could inconvenience hundreds of thousands of customers while endangering some who depend on electricity to keep them alive.
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California regulators on Thursday approved allowing utilities to cut off electricity to possibly hundreds of thousands of customers to avoid catastrophic wildfires like the one sparked by power lines last year that killed 85 people and largely destroyed the city of Paradise.

Utilities' liability can reach billions of dollars, and after several years of devastating wildfires, they asked regulators to allow them to pull the plug when fire risk is extremely high. That's mainly during periods of excessive winds and low humidity when vegetation is dried out and can easily ignite.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/california-approves-wide-power-outages-prevent-wildfires-n1012271
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #813 on: June 20, 2019, 02:45:43 AM »
13 June.  Wildfires in Siberia.

Alarming wildfires rage near giant ‘Mouth of Hell’ gash in the tundra, a wonder of Siberia
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The fires are now raging some 10 to 15 kilometres from the megaslump crater - a large hole in the frozen Arctic soil which highlights the dramatic speed of thawing permafrost.

The Batagaika or Batagai "megaslump" is a tadpole-shaped depression around one kilometre long, 800 metres wide and 100 metres deep.

It is growing by some 15 to 30 metres a year - but if it is hit by the nearby inferno this would destroy trees on its rim and loosen the soil even more, resulting in further collapses.
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Changes in the local climate have seen an ‘almost snowless’ winter in this northern outpost with dry weather exacerbating the risk of wildfires spreading.  ...
http://siberiantimes.com/other/others/news/alarming-wildfires-rage-near-giant-mouth-of-hell-gash-in-the-tundra-a-wonder-of-siberia/
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #815 on: June 26, 2019, 01:01:24 PM »

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #816 on: June 26, 2019, 02:48:03 PM »
California home insurers are required to predict future losses based on losses that happened in the past, usually over the past 20 years.

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Since 10 of California’s 20 biggest fires have happened in the past five years, rates are already rising quickly.


Using the last 20 years as a baseline is not going to work.

Allison Castro, a spokeswoman for the state’s Department of Insurance, said there hasn’t been an instance yet where an insurer tried to use a model and was denied, but the department has a litany of concerns. Regulators worry the models aren’t credible, and that they’re a “black box” and could be used to overcharge consumers.

Of course the government could create an organisation running such models to set bounds if they actually cared.
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #817 on: June 26, 2019, 03:18:50 PM »
This is ridiculous and at the same time what is likely happening everywhere.
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #818 on: June 30, 2019, 12:04:05 AM »
Northern forests exhibiting similar conditions now compared to Pliocene.  Current models have included some of these feed backs but not older models.
https://www.clim-past.net/15/1063/2019/   
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #819 on: July 03, 2019, 07:52:23 AM »
It was the worst June inside the arctic circle by far.
https://imgur.com/a/NPVXCIG

https://imgur.com/a/CE5ULXW



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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #820 on: July 07, 2019, 12:02:30 AM »
More on the June wildfires in arctic
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Mark Parrington, a senior scientist working on wildfire emissions at the European Center for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts, said in an email that in June 2019 Arctic wildfires released 50 megatons of carbon dioxide. In the first couple days of July, he said, the Arctic Circle has already released 4.5-5 megatons of CO2.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qv79b5/unprecedented-wildfires-are-burning-across-the-arctic-circle

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #821 on: July 12, 2019, 04:22:03 PM »

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #825 on: July 21, 2019, 05:14:01 PM »
Smoke-cane in Siberia

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #826 on: July 21, 2019, 08:29:33 PM »
Smoke-cane in Siberia

Looks like a swarm of meteorites entering the atmosphere...

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #827 on: July 22, 2019, 11:53:55 PM »
Getting bigger

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« Reply #828 on: July 23, 2019, 01:44:11 AM »
Awesome photos...

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #829 on: July 23, 2019, 03:12:36 AM »
The amount of area that covers is just mind blowing.

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #830 on: July 23, 2019, 09:39:04 AM »
Surely the scale of these fires is unprecedented. There's some amazing coverage in the Siberian Times:

https://siberiantimes.com/ecology/others/news/major-siberian-cities-choking-from-strong-wildfires/

"According to the Federal Service Avialesokhrana on 21 July, some 492,750 hectares of forests are ablaze in Krasnoyarsk region and only 28,366 are being extinguished.
Smoke from wildfires is observed in several districts of the Irkutsk region, further to the east.
Smoke covered Bratsky, Chunsky, Ust-Ilimsky, Nizhneilimsky and Ust-Kut districts.
As of the morning of 21 July, 86 forest fires are registered in Irkutsk region.
The total area of burning forests is 217,418 hectares."

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #831 on: July 23, 2019, 02:47:49 PM »
Thanks for the link, Silkman

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #832 on: July 23, 2019, 05:26:24 PM »
Arctic firestorm

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #833 on: July 23, 2019, 09:29:38 PM »
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These are some of the biggest fires on the planet, with a few appearing to be larger than 100,000 hectares (380 square miles)," Smith said. "The amount of CO2 (carbon dioxide) emitted from Arctic Circle fires in June 2019 is larger than all of the CO2 released from Arctic Circle fires in the same month from 2010 through to 2018 put together.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/weather/2019/07/23/arctic-fires-shown-satellite-concerning-scientists/1793530001/

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« Reply #834 on: July 23, 2019, 10:14:54 PM »
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These are some of the biggest fires on the planet, with a few appearing to be larger than 100,000 hectares (380 square miles)," Smith said. "The amount of CO2 (carbon dioxide) emitted from Arctic Circle fires in June 2019 is larger than all of the CO2 released from Arctic Circle fires in the same month from 2010 through to 2018 put together.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/weather/2019/07/23/arctic-fires-shown-satellite-concerning-scientists/1793530001/

Peat fires have been known to burn through the winter.

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #835 on: July 25, 2019, 01:42:25 AM »
How much CO2 is the Siberian fire pumping out?

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« Reply #836 on: July 26, 2019, 01:58:21 AM »
How much CO2 is the Siberian fire pumping out?

More than in any year in the 17 year record, and a lot of it is coming from peat which is old, sequestered carbon.

Dr. Smith has a lot of good images and links in his thread. These are screen shots so I can’t make the links active.   If you want more information, you can search him on Twitter and get the active links there.  @DrTELS
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« Reply #837 on: July 26, 2019, 02:00:18 AM »
Continued:

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« Reply #838 on: July 26, 2019, 02:50:25 AM »
Unprecedented Wildfires Are Smothering The Arctic In Smoke

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I think it's fair to say July Arctic Circle #wildfires are now at unprecedented levels," Copernicus senior scientist Mark Parrington said on Twitter Monday.

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Parrington says the amount of CO2 added to the atmosphere by Arctic wildfires during the first three weeks of July is equal to the annual fossil fuel CO2 emissions for Bulgaria, Hungary and Sweden.

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Atmospheric scientist Dr. Santiago Gasso says the fires burning in the Siberian regions of Krasnoyarsk Krai and Sakha have "now created a smoke lid extending over 4 and half million (square km) over central northern Asia. This is staggering."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2019/07/24/the-arctic-is-on-fire-like-never-before/


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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #839 on: July 26, 2019, 03:21:36 AM »

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« Reply #840 on: July 27, 2019, 01:21:44 AM »
Yesterday, there was a discussion on the melting thread about whether the smoke from the arctic wildfires has impacted the sea ice. 

The smoke plume from the Alaska wildfires has extended to the North Pole with heavier concentrations of aerosols on the way.   

So far, the smoke from the Siberian wildfires has stayed south of the ice. 

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #841 on: July 27, 2019, 06:17:08 PM »
I know this isn't supposed to be a political thread, but even though Russia produces more forest fire particulate, the U.S.A. exports more.  :-\ :o :'(
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« Reply #842 on: July 27, 2019, 08:03:53 PM »
#winning

Not sure if these countries actually care about the connection.
Personally i am looking forward to physics free missele launches.  8)
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« Reply #844 on: July 28, 2019, 10:53:47 AM »
The sheer scale of this years fires is just boggling.  *Millions* of KM2 seriously affected by smoke...

7/25/2019 Worldview capture with a few added notations for reference.
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'Unprecedented': more than 100 Arctic wildfires burn in worst ever season
« Reply #845 on: July 29, 2019, 07:52:42 AM »
The Arctic is suffering its worst wildfire season on record, with huge blazes in Greenland, Siberia and Alaska producing plumes of smoke that can be seen from space.

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“The amount of [carbon dioxide] emitted from Arctic circle fires in June 2019 is larger than all of the CO2 released from Arctic circle fires in the same month from 2010 through to 2018 put together.”

In June alone, the WMO said, Arctic fires emitted 50 megatonnes of CO2, equal to Sweden’s total annual emissions.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/26/unprecedented-more-than-100-wildfires-burning-in-the-arctic-in-worst-ever-season?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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« Reply #846 on: July 29, 2019, 10:00:44 PM »
Fires and floods in Siberia.
Almost 3 million hectares on fire, including Arctic, with fumes having hit area larger than European Union. Worst hit is Yakutia where 1.8 million hectares are now ablaze.

https://siberiantimes.com/ecology/others/news/fire-and-flood-apocalypse-with-wildfires-raging-and-dire-threat-to-baikal-worlds-deepest-lake/

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #847 on: July 30, 2019, 05:43:32 PM »
Hi guys. Many thanks for all that information! It's absolutely scary what's going on with all these fires. The fires can be seen more clearly again on today's Worldview image, and it looks like those fires just keep spreading...

https://go.nasa.gov/2yqQNs4

With corrected reflectance bands it's easier to see the scars that are left behind by the fires.

https://go.nasa.gov/2ymzJna

I read that the peat has now caught fire, and I know that peat fires can burn for many years, underground, but is that also the case when they get covered with snow? Will enough snow (water) put out the peat fire eventually? Or will these peat fires become a big problem?
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90% of the world is religious, but somehow "love thy neighbour" became "fuck thy neighbours", if they don't agree with your point of view.

WTF happened?

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« Reply #848 on: July 30, 2019, 09:10:54 PM »
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A peat fire will burn downwards and outward becoming the largest fires on earth in the mass of fuel that is burned.  They continue to burn even in winter and reignite in the summer according to the LSE study.
Peat, the world's largest terrestrial carbon store, ignites into 'unprecedented' Arctic firestorms. (Daily Kos article published July 27, 2019)

I remember reading (several years ago) about a peat fire someplace in Alaska that 'seemed' to get put out each winter but came back each summer for a few years.

Some 'background':
Chapter 1 - Smoldering-Peat Megafires: The Largest Fires on Earth - Science Direct - 2015
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Abstract
Smoldering megafires are the largest and longest burning fires on Earth. They destroy essential peat land ecosystems and are responsible for 15% of annual global greenhouse gas emissions. This is the same amount attributed to all the combustion engine vehicles in the world, yet it is not accounted for in global carbon budgets. Peat fires also induce surges of respiratory emergencies in the population and disrupt shipping and aviation routes for long periods, weeks, and even months. Despite their importance, we do not understand how smoldering fires ignite, spread, or extinguish, which impedes the development of any successful mitigation strategy. Megafires are routinely fought across the globe with techniques that were developed for flaming fires, and are thus ineffective for smoldering. Moreover, the burning of deep peat affects older soil carbon that has not been part of the active carbon cycle for centuries to millennia, and thus creates a positive feedback to the climate system.
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #849 on: July 31, 2019, 12:31:21 AM »
Tor...reading the peat fire links, is it just me or does every new story always contain info that makes things worse then they appeared to be? I can't remember the last time I read an article about AGW where I said "Boy that's good".