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Re: Qué se ficieron ?
« Reply #100 on: August 18, 2018, 02:33:41 PM »
Despite this deplorable attack and its tragic outcome, I think the blame should be laid on those who decided to use such bombs for their purposes - the Saudis, and partially on those who decided to give them these bombs - US officials. Laser guided MK-82 bombs have been around for 40 years, Lockheed Martin makes the guidance kit, while General Dynamics makes the bomb itself AFAIK. Blaming Lockheed Martin "misses the mark" IMHO.

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Re: Qué se ficieron ?
« Reply #101 on: August 19, 2018, 06:35:34 AM »
Many may pull back from purchasing Saudi-Tesla products, even Tesla-Saudi ones.
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« Reply #102 on: August 19, 2018, 09:16:15 PM »
Rehabilitation of war criminals proceeds apace: The new heroes of the left:

" ... the nation’s spies are enjoying a renaissance in their public standing, particularly among Democrats ..."

" ... Brennan, Clapper, and Hayden have, in the space of a couple of years’ worth of Trump criticism, seemingly erased the massive scandals that once clung to their names ... "

"Brennan, Clapper, and Hayden are not dispassionate guardians of democratic ideals and decency. They’re the former executives of what Matt Taibbi has accurately called “an authoritarian state-within-a-state,” who created and promoted illiberal programs of torture, assassination, and spying, and have brazenly, and often illegally, lied to the public and the lawmakers who are supposed to hold them to account."

" ... criticism of Trump from figures like Brennan, Clapper, and Hayden is motivated at least as much by their abiding loyalty to the intelligence apparatus he disdains, their longstanding hawkishness when it comes to Russia, and the need to distract from their own checkered histories, as it is by high-minded principles of democracy and patriotism. Every time one of these men does an interview, writes an op-ed, or goes on a talk show, we shouldn’t forget that until very recently, their names were associated with scandal and censure."

Unfortunately the author actually believes there is such a thing called "American Democracy" ...

"Ensuring the survival of American democracy will eventually require taking on this shadow government, too — a task made all the more difficult when liberals turn its architects into idols."

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2018/08/john-brennan-trump-hayden-clapper

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Re: Qué se ficieron ?
« Reply #104 on: August 29, 2018, 10:23:40 AM »
What kind of world is this ?

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/suspected-cia-black-site-in-thailand-to-become-tourist-destination-20180827-p5001o.html

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I have a good name: Waterboardworld!

Rehabilitation of war criminals proceeds apace: The new heroes of the left:

" ... the nation’s spies are enjoying a renaissance in their public standing, particularly among Democrats ..."

" ... Brennan, Clapper, and Hayden have, in the space of a couple of years’ worth of Trump criticism, seemingly erased the massive scandals that once clung to their names ... "

"Brennan, Clapper, and Hayden are not dispassionate guardians of democratic ideals and decency. They’re the former executives of what Matt Taibbi has accurately called “an authoritarian state-within-a-state,” who created and promoted illiberal programs of torture, assassination, and spying, and have brazenly, and often illegally, lied to the public and the lawmakers who are supposed to hold them to account."

" ... criticism of Trump from figures like Brennan, Clapper, and Hayden is motivated at least as much by their abiding loyalty to the intelligence apparatus he disdains, their longstanding hawkishness when it comes to Russia, and the need to distract from their own checkered histories, as it is by high-minded principles of democracy and patriotism. Every time one of these men does an interview, writes an op-ed, or goes on a talk show, we shouldn’t forget that until very recently, their names were associated with scandal and censure."

Unfortunately the author actually believes there is such a thing called "American Democracy" ...

"Ensuring the survival of American democracy will eventually require taking on this shadow government, too — a task made all the more difficult when liberals turn its architects into idols."

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2018/08/john-brennan-trump-hayden-clapper

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I watched Brennan in an interview with Bill Maher yesterday. It remains pretty mindboggling.
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« Reply #105 on: September 11, 2018, 12:43:55 AM »
On third of psychologists in the American Psychological Association are now cool with torture:

"What makes the new vote less than completely satisfying, however, is this: the 2015 vote establishing that policy was 157-to-1. This year, a third of the council was ready to send psychologists back to Guantánamo. Like much of the rest of Donald Trump’s United States, the APA seems to be in the process of backsliding on torture."

"Obama also argued that nothing would be "gained by spending our time and energy laying blame for the past." He couldn’t have been more mistaken. "

https://original.antiwar.com/Rebecca_Gordon/2018/09/09/psychologists-say-no-to-torture/

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« Reply #106 on: September 11, 2018, 01:27:43 AM »
"One third of psychologists in the American Psychological Association are now cool with torture:"
You don't have to read much history to realise morality is a moveable feast, these guys seem to be standing on marbles.

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Re: Qué se ficieron ?
« Reply #107 on: October 15, 2018, 11:51:27 PM »
Sjursen on the myths of the West:

“I have come to kill Indians and believe it is right and honorable to use any means under God’s heaven to kill Indians.”

"By 1860, only 30,000 California Indians (out of 150,000) remained alive"

 “The only good Indians I ever saw were dead.”

“possession is a disease with them [white men].”

"In 1870, the Supreme Court ruled that Congress had the power to “supersede or even annul treaties” with Indian tribes. "

"The original (Hispanic) residents of California and the Southwest were promised their private landholdings would be protected under the provisions of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo ... It was not to be. "

 “Mexicans have no business in this country. The men were made to be shot at, and the women were made for our purposes. I’m a white man—I am! A Mexican is pretty near black. I hate all Mexicans.”

"Are “undocumented” Mexican immigrants “illegal intruders,” or rightful residents of “Occupied America”? "

"Indians had adhered to treaties more faithfully than whites and were rewarded with banishment, theft, war and at times extermination."

" [Out of] five of the poorest U.S. counties ...  four—Buffalo, Todd and Shannon in South Dakota and Wade Hampton in Alaska ...  are all Indian reservations ... or places with major Native American majorities"

"These counties, each filled with thousands of tragic individual stories, are living relics of our past; of each phase of the U.S. government’s calamitous Indian policy—first, removal, then concentration, followed by confinement to the reservation, and, finally, hopeless forced assimilation. "

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/american-history-for-truthdiggers-lies-we-tell-ourselves-about-the-old-west/

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Re: Qué se ficieron ?
« Reply #108 on: October 16, 2018, 01:50:23 AM »
Sjursen on the myths of the West:

“I have come to kill Indians and believe it is right and honorable to use any means under God’s heaven to kill Indians.”

"By 1860, only 30,000 California Indians (out of 150,000) remained alive"

 “The only good Indians I ever saw were dead.”

“possession is a disease with them [white men].”

"In 1870, the Supreme Court ruled that Congress had the power to “supersede or even annul treaties” with Indian tribes. "

"The original (Hispanic) residents of California and the Southwest were promised their private landholdings would be protected under the provisions of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo ... It was not to be. "

 “Mexicans have no business in this country. The men were made to be shot at, and the women were made for our purposes. I’m a white man—I am! A Mexican is pretty near black. I hate all Mexicans.”

"Are “undocumented” Mexican immigrants “illegal intruders,” or rightful residents of “Occupied America”? "

"Indians had adhered to treaties more faithfully than whites and were rewarded with banishment, theft, war and at times extermination."

" [Out of] five of the poorest U.S. counties ...  four—Buffalo, Todd and Shannon in South Dakota and Wade Hampton in Alaska ...  are all Indian reservations ... or places with major Native American majorities"

"These counties, each filled with thousands of tragic individual stories, are living relics of our past; of each phase of the U.S. government’s calamitous Indian policy—first, removal, then concentration, followed by confinement to the reservation, and, finally, hopeless forced assimilation. "

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/american-history-for-truthdiggers-lies-we-tell-ourselves-about-the-old-west/

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This mirrors the history of the dispossession and genocide of Australian Aborigines.

 >:( :( :'(
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« Reply #109 on: October 17, 2018, 10:38:10 PM »
Another soul in limbo: Defense counsel on Zubadayah:

"The infamous torture memo was, in fact, written specifically to legitimize Abu Zubaydah’s torture."

"This document described Abu Zubaydah as “the third or fourth man in al-Qaida” and “a senior Usama Bin Laden lieutenant” who had been “involved in every major al-Qaida terrorist operation” and was “a planner of the 11 September hijackings.” He “managed a network of [al-Qaeda] training camps,” “directed the start-up of a Bin Laden cell in Jordan,” and “served as al-Qaeda’s coordinator of external contacts, or foreign communications.” He was also alleged to be “engaged in ongoing terrorism planning against US interests.” For good measure, he had supposedly written the organization’s “manual on resistance techniques” and had a particular expertise in thwarting conventional interrogations. "

"The “facts” recounted above to justify this torture were all false. Abu Zubaydah was no lieutenant to Osama bin Laden. He held no position in al-Qaeda, senior or otherwise. He had no part in September 11 or any other al-Qaeda operations. He did not operate a network of al-Qaeda camps, open an al-Qaeda cell in Jordan, or manage al-Qaeda’s external communications. He did not draft any resistance manual, for al-Qaeda or anyone else, and had no special expertise in resisting interrogations.

The government no longer maintains that these assertions are true, and now concedes that Abu Zubaydah was never a member of al-Qaeda."

"The CIA has likewise admitted error, and now affirms that Abu Zubaydah was not part of al-Qaeda. This is also the conclusion of the United Nations Security Council, which has removed Abu Zubaydah from its Islamic State and al-Qaeda sanctions list, based on the earlier recommendation of the UN ombudsman, who similarly concluded that Abu Zubaydah was not a member of al-Qaeda. And years ago, the Department of Justice withdrew all allegations that Abu Zubaydah had a connection to the September 11 attacks or played any part in al-Qaeda’s terrorism."

"Because the demonization of radical Islam has been uncritically embraced by a significant portion of the population and a great many of our elected officials, there is widespread (though not universal) agreement that the federal government may do things to followers of radical Islam that it would never do to a conventional offender"

"because regardless of what he may have done, regardless of whether he is “innocent,” we should not authorize the government to treat him in a way that we would never tolerate if it were done to a dog, or to imprison him incommunicado, in a small, windowless cell, without charges or meaningful process, until he dies, forgotten by a world that has long since moved on."

"the government relies on people continuing to imagine him a monster. Because if he is a monster, the government was right to torture him. If he is a monster, it is not just lawful but good that he remains imprisoned indefinitely. If he is a monster, we may do with him what we will.

But there are no monsters. There is only us."

Read the whole thing:

https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/09/28/the-innocence-of-abu-zubaydah/

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« Reply #110 on: January 07, 2019, 10:22:12 PM »
More Guantanamo blues:

" military commissions system is a kangaroo court designed to cover-up CIA torture "

" “forever prisoners,” 26 are specifically held in indefinite detention without charge or trial. "

" too difficult to prosecute, because of inadmissible and often torture-obtained evidence, and too dangerous to release. However, recidivism for former Guantánamo prisoners is low — 4.6 percent. "

" Once you torture someone, it is hard to un-torture them. "

" classifying defendants’ thoughts and memories of the torture they experienced as “state secrets.” "

Kafka could have written this. And I am surprised at only five in a hundred recidivism rate. If I'd been tortured like those guys, I'd be in a throat-slitting kinda mood ...

Read the whole thing, if you have the stomach:

https://truthout.org/articles/fbi-cia-collaboration-reveals-blatant-illegitimacy-of-guantanamo-trials/

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« Reply #111 on: February 23, 2019, 08:06:10 AM »
The Kafka continues:

Apparently, torture disclosure for propaganda is fine.
But such disclosure to defense lawyers for the tortured ?
No way. 

"The lawyers discovered that in the CIA’s year-long cooperation with the film-makers, the agency shared details of Baluchi’s torture at a secret prison, or black site, which they had been told were too secret to be divulged."

"The trial has yet to begin, despite the fact that Baluchi and his four other co-accused in the 9/11 case have been in Guantánamo for 13 years and were first charged in 2008. "

"In the pre-trial hearings, which have been underway for nearly seven years, the defence teams have been repeatedly denied access to witnesses and documentation that might cast light on their clients’ captivity prior to arriving in Guantánamo."

"“Although we have received no orders to do so, we are currently prepared to take in up to an additional 40 detainees with no additional staffing requirements.

“With minimal adjustments to current infrastructure and manpower we could take up to 200 detainees total,” he said. "

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/feb/22/ammar-al-baluchi-pre-trial-911-cia-guantanamo-bay-torture

I got an idea. If they wanna throw more people in there, how about Bush the lesser, Cheney, Tenet, Rice Addington, Yoo, Bybee ... dump em all in Guantanamo. Did they say they had room for 200 ? Toss in some bankers, too.
 
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Re: Qué se ficieron ?
« Reply #112 on: February 23, 2019, 05:32:19 PM »
Don't forget Rumsfeld.

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« Reply #113 on: March 21, 2019, 10:42:09 PM »
Ten years after: torturers dragged into court

"The company, CACI Premier Technology, was contracted by the Pentagon to provide interrogators for the jail. To this day, it still has contracts worth hundreds of millions of dollars with the US Department of Defence."

"The firm has fought to stop the case from being heard for more than 10 years, according to lawyers involved in the case. But now, the detainees will have their day in court."

Read and weep:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iraq-war-abu-ghraib-prison-court-torture-scandal-soldiers-a8831881.html

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« Reply #114 on: April 03, 2019, 07:34:16 AM »
They dont deserve a clean death: US Supremes cool with painful execution

“executing him by lethal injection will cause the tumors that grow in his throat to rupture during his execution, causing him to sputter, choke, and suffocate on his own blood for up to several minutes before he dies.”

"The corporation that manufactured sodium thiopental stopped supplying it for use in executions"

"there are only narrow grounds for legal challenges by inmates to the method of execution. Bucklew had to prove that the method of execution would be unconstitutionally painful, and he was required to propose an alternative method of execution that was constitutionally permissible."

"dismissing his suggestion of nitrogen gas—approved as a method of execution in three states—on particularly ludicrous grounds, namely, that he did not submit a full plan of operation for his own execution, including such details as what kind of protective gear his executioners should wear when they gassed him."

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/04/02/supr-a02.html

This is a strange and terrible land. Just put a bullet or three though his head, for mercy's sake.

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Re: Qué se ficieron ?
« Reply #115 on: April 03, 2019, 07:45:59 AM »
Or, just don't execute people.

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« Reply #116 on: April 04, 2019, 06:42:34 AM »
Navajo Nation betrayed again. And again. And again.

"Although collective oral histories stretch back thousands of years, most family stories begin in 1868 – the year the Navajo signed a treaty with the United States that ended their incarceration at Bosque Redondo and allowed them to return to their ancestral homeland."

" the treaty spelled out the responsibilities of the federal government ...  the government pledged to provide a school house and a teacher for every 30 students ... The promises were essentially worthless. "

" federal agencies refused to construct roads that would allow children to ride a bus to schools near their home. Instead, they were sent to distant boarding schools that stripped them of their Native language and culture."

Read and weep:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/02/new-mexico-navajo-nation-searchlight-native-american

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« Reply #117 on: April 16, 2019, 12:17:51 AM »
Taub at New Yorker: One who made it out of Guantanamo, and the prison guard who converted to Islam.

"In time, Wood began to think of everything he had known before meeting Salahi as a narrow-minded myth of American superiority, notable for its omissions of overseas misadventures. Meanwhile, the Bush Administration’s pretext for invading Iraq was collapsing, and so was Wood’s trust in government. It was the spring of 2004. There were no weapons of mass destruction. The “mission” had not been “accomplished.” When Wood watched the evening news, he saw photographs of American M.P.s torturing and sexually humiliating Iraqi detainees at Abu Ghraib. He began to wonder whether the case against Mohamedou Salahi was as flimsy and politically motivated as that for the invasion had been. “I was, like, What else have they lied about?” he said."

"he began to wonder whether what he was actually protecting at Guantánamo was one of the government’s darkest secrets: that its highest-value military detainee was being held essentially by mistake"

"the lead Senegalese officer was convinced that there was no reason to hold Salahi"

 “We had done all our investigations, and we found nothing against Salahi,”

"Abdellahi’s men detained Salahi again in the fall of 2001, at the request of the Americans. “I really have no questions for you, because I know your case,” Abdellahi told him. "

"Salahi found his Jordanian interrogators to be highly knowledgeable ... they understand this whole concept of terrorism much better than the average American interrogator ... they were very reluctant to torture me. It was not every day, the torture—I would say maybe twice a week "

"an intelligence officer, known among the detainees as William the Torturer, forced Salahi into stress positions that exacerbated his sciatic-nerve issues."

"One day, after an interrogator kicked a Quran across the floor, detainees organized a mass suicide attempt. “Once every fifteen minutes, a prisoner tried to hang himself by tying his sheet around his neck and fastening it through the mesh of the cage wall,” ... The protest lasted for several days as twenty-three prisoners tried to hang themselves."

"Yee came to believe that “Islam was systematically used as a weapon against the prisoners.” "

"after McFadden visited the detention camp, he concluded that the detainees were “essentially nobodies.” He told me, “There was not anyone approaching even the most liberal interpretation of a ‘high-value detainee.’ ” "

"In Afghanistan, the U.S. military was inadvertently presiding over a kidnapping-and-ransom industry. "

“What better way to enrich yourself, while resolving old grudges, than to finger a neighbor who was your enemy, regardless of his support for either Al Qaeda or the Taliban?”

" detainees would stop coöperating and start chanting or praying; in an attempt to reassert control, Fallon wrote, “the interrogators would duct-tape their mouths, further guaranteeing that they wouldn’t get any information—and so it would go.” "

" each failed interrogation “was taken as proof that the detainees were both Al Qaeda and trained to resist these methods.” "

"If the detainee dies, you’re doing it wrong."

"Beaver endorsed “the use of scenarios designed to convince the detainee that death” was “imminent.” "

" “We’re gonna feed you up your ass,” an interrogator said."

"One day they would deprive him of food, and the next they’d force him to drink water until he vomited. "

" He was forced to swallow salt water, and, every few minutes, the men packed ice cubes between his clothes and his skin. When the ice melted, they punched him, then repacked the ice to freeze him again. By the end of the boat ride, Salahi was bleeding from his ankles, mouth, and wrists. Seven or eight of his ribs were broken."

"Salahi wrote in his diary. “But the problem is that you cannot just admit to something you haven’t done; you need to deliver the details, which you can’t when you hadn’t done anything. It’s not just, ‘Yes, I did!’ No, it doesn’t work that way: you have to make up a complete story that makes sense to the dumbest dummies. One of the hardest things to do is to tell an untruthful story and maintain it, and that is exactly where I was stuck.” "

“I took the pen and paper and wrote all kinds of incriminating lies about a poor person who was just seeking refuge in Canada and trying to make some money so he could start a family. Moreover, he is handicapped. I felt so bad, and kept praying silently, ‘Nothing’s gonna happen to you dear brother.’ ”

"Salahi voluntarily sat for a polygraph test. The examiner described Salahi, whose answers contradicted everything he had confessed to Zuley in the preceding weeks, as “eager to prove that he is providing accurate information.” The results were decisive: “No deception indicated.” "

"While Salahi was being tortured, James Yee, the Muslim military chaplain, discovered that he and the interpreters at Guantánamo—many of whom were Muslim Americans, with Middle Eastern backgrounds—were being spied on by law-enforcement and intelligence officers. When Yee went on leave, he flew to Jacksonville, Florida, where he was interrogated and arrested, then blindfolded, earmuffed, and driven to a Navy brig in South Carolina. For seventy-six days, he lived in solitary confinement, in a cold cell with surveillance cameras and the lights always on ... All charges were later dropped, and Yee was honorably discharged."

"More detainees have died at Guantánamo than have been convicted of a crime."

"The prosecutor assigned to Salahi’s case was a lieutenant colonel named Stuart Couch ... he became suspicious that Salahi’s confessions had been elicited through torture ... he resigned from the case."

"The government no longer attempted to prosecute Salahi ... but it argued that he should nevertheless be detained indefinitely."

"Amanda gave birth to a son ... Amanda is an American, and so their son is now a citizen of the country whose purported values Salahi wants to believe in but has never seen. "

Read the whole thing, if you have the stomach:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/04/22/guantanamos-darkest-secret

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« Reply #118 on: April 18, 2019, 10:03:51 AM »
Kangaroo courts in Kafka narratives:

"the judge overseeing the proceedings did not appear to be impartial. "

"pursuing a job at the Justice Department while simultaneously presiding over the case against Abd Al-Rahim Al-Nashiri"

"Criminal justice is a shared responsibility. Yet in this case, save for Al-Nashiri’s defense counsel, all elements of the military commission system—from the prosecution team to the Justice Department to the [Court of Military Commission Review] to the judge himself—failed to live up to that responsibility"

"we cannot dismiss Spath’s lapse as a one-time aberration ... not the first meritorious request for recusal that our court has considered "

"the government is seeking the death penalty"

"ruling will void about 460 written orders Spath issued as well as an untold number of oral rulings, including rulings he issued against defense attorneys "

"any trial for Nashiri, an alleged al-Qaida operative, will likely come more than two decades after his alleged crime. "

"upholding the legitimacy of the process had to take precedence over speed"

" no one within the military commission system … did anything even after they came to light"

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/16/guantanamo-military-tribunal-1277790

Hey, look. My tax dollars at work.

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