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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #150 on: June 09, 2019, 11:58:35 AM »
Neven should be interested in this. Once I have time to upload the full video you'll note a reference to working with Sono Motors.

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #151 on: June 09, 2019, 12:29:13 PM »
Jim,

Keep us posted on this. It has to be the way to go.

Meanwhile, I just completed a 500 mile round trip to Edinburgh, my longest foray to date in my i3. The upside was recognising the delight of the fantastic Lakes and Borders countryside whilst driving economically in the slow lane. The downside was my increasing frustration with roadside charging facilities in the UK. A 50% failure rate at Ecotricity CCS roadside chargers North of Preston was irksome to say the least.

We've a long way to go before we've got even the basic infrastructure in place to satisfy the average driver.

Keep up the good work!

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« Reply #152 on: June 09, 2019, 02:23:15 PM »
Funny, that the ad doesn't say "Audi gone electric"...

Because they haven’t, not really...  ;)   Which I’m sure is your point.

But it fits with their quirky ad that says “Maybe you’re not ready for an electric car,” while showing ways that you are.  I think they realize they need creative ways to draw attention to the e-tron, since the car’s features aren’t much to crow about.
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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #153 on: June 09, 2019, 02:47:44 PM »
Correct, that's my point. And the ad about 'are you ready' is comedic. Makes the watcher wonder, 'Is Audi ready?'.

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #154 on: June 10, 2019, 12:06:54 PM »
Keep us posted on this. It has to be the way to go.

Agreed. Here is the inimitable Bobby Llewellyn's review of the Sono Motors Sion:



We Drive Solar are in close contact with the Sono team, and the Sion is designed "from the ground up" to use AC V2G technology. The "secret weapon" is not quite so secret any more!

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We intend to!
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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #155 on: June 10, 2019, 03:41:35 PM »
Keep us posted on this. It has to be the way to go.

Agreed. Here is the inimitable Bobby Llewellyn's review of the Sono Motors Sion:

We Drive Solar are in close contact with the Sono team, and the Sion is designed "from the ground up" to use AC V2G technology. The "secret weapon" is not quite so secret any more!

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Keep up the good work!

We intend to!

Interesting video, great concept.  Some of us have no garage for home charging, but have modest daily mileage needs.  Solar charging would be totally adequate for someone like me.  Top speed isn't "sexy," but more than adequate for sane drivers. 

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #156 on: June 10, 2019, 04:22:49 PM »
Audi etron is potentially hot stuff, fire recall

https://insideevs.com/news/353790/audi-recall-e-tron-charging-water-fire/amp/

(i wouldn't usually post this, because it's the equivalent of a sack of rice falling over in China, but since those things get posted when it's about Tesla, here i go)

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #157 on: June 10, 2019, 04:47:18 PM »
Audi etron is potentially hot stuff, fire recall

https://insideevs.com/news/353790/audi-recall-e-tron-charging-water-fire/amp/

(i wouldn't usually post this, because it's the equivalent of a sack of rice falling over in China, but since those things get posted when it's about Tesla, here i go)

The fledgling i-Pace is also having difficulties:
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2019-2020 Jaguar I-Pace: Recall Alert | News | Cars.com
https://www.cars.com/articles/2019-2020-jaguar-i-pace-recall-alert-403454/
Vehicles Affected: Approximately 3,000 model-year 2019-20 Jaguar I-Pace electric vehicles
The Problem: If the regenerative brake system fails, there will be an increased delay between when the driver brakes and when the vehicle decelerates, increasing the risk of a crash.
The Fix: Dealers will update the software to reduce the delay for free.
What Owners Should Do: Jaguar will begin notifying owners July 1. Owners can call Jaguar at 800-637-6837, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration’s vehicle-safety hotline at 888-327-4236 or visit its website to check their vehicle identification number and learn more.
Need to Find a Dealer for Service? Go to Cars.com Service & Repair to find your local dealer. To check for other recalls, and to schedule a free recall repair at your local dealership, click here: Jaguar I-Pace
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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #158 on: June 10, 2019, 05:21:01 PM »
this is the first and only electric car concept where is no need to ask every once and then:

why not this too, why not that way etc. the concept for a start is perfect and flawless and once
when there will be better batteries available and 4-wheel drive for the mountains above the fog where solar charging makes more sense than most valley-dwellers know, this is about how
EVs should be at the current stage of technology.

obviously this will be perfect for all Mediterranean and other sunny places where a nice rest for a meal can bring you back home ;) (charging time wise in bright sunshine)

i'm exited to see this happen and hope for a soon production launch to give them the diserved benefit before the big players are going to copy and steal their incentive away from them.
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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #159 on: June 10, 2019, 05:28:13 PM »
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Bonnie Norman (@bonnienorman) 6/8/19, 9:36 AM
1/ I love this old series of @pluginamerica Drive Electric commercials.
https://twitter.com/bonnienorman/status/1137352806354939904

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While the numbers will vary from month to month, half of all cars sold in 2019 in Norway will probably be fully electric, the head of the Norwegian Electric Vehicle Association (NEV) said.
Tesla boom lifts Norway's electric car sales to record market share
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1RD2BB

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Electrify America now has 120 charging stations at Walmart stores, plans to expand further
All Electrify America chargers at Walmart locations feature 150 kW and 350 kW DC fast chargers.
https://electrek.co/2019/06/06/electrify-america-walmart-charging-120/

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ValueAnalyst (@ValueAnalyst1) 6/8/19, 1:22 PM
Missed this one:
FCA announced after its third straight monthly U.S. sales decline that it’s going to shift to quarterly reporting. The company is taking after GM, which made the switch a year ago, and Ford, which followed suit beginning in January.”
bloomberg.com/news/articles/…
https://twitter.com/valueanalyst1/status/1137409476561166337

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Fiat's U.S. Dealers → “Fiat entered May with nearly six months of inventory ... the most in the industry ... In the first five months of 2019, sales have plunged 39%.” autonews.com/sales/fiats-us… $TSLA pic.twitter.com/w7L7HavzS6
https://twitter.com/teslany/status/1137876866105323521
< Don’t be surprised if FCA goes bust in 2020. This is why they want to merge
Red bar graph below.

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“Without new regulations, we will not meet the one million units … it will be fewer than a million.”
Toyota Plans To Lose To Tesla — Just 1 Million Electric Vehicles By 2025
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Tesla plans to sell 1 million BEVs per year by 2021, at least 4 years ahead of Toyota. Even Volkswagen expects to reach that goal in 2022. Toyota is essentially admitting defeat at this point. …
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/06/08/toyota-plans-to-lose-to-tesla-just-1-million-electric-vehicles-cumulative-by-2025/
Graph below

< Sales numbers are the best survey one can make...!
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ValueAnalyst (@ValueAnalyst1) 6/8/19, 10:16 AM
Yes, and traditional OEMs see sell-through rates even though we see only what they sell to dealers, so @Toyota is already witnessing the likely double-digits drops in their ICE sales due to Model 3 Standard demand surge this summer.
https://twitter.com/valueanalyst1/status/1137362772730294272

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UK Manufacturers and others stockpiled for an April Brexit… which has been delayed to October. Doubtful the industry will pick back up to normal in the interim.
UK economy hit by 'dramatic' fall in car output
A "dramatic" fall in car production and an easing of stockpiling by manufacturers meant the economy shrank in April, official figures show
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48579630
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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #160 on: June 11, 2019, 01:17:11 PM »
Audi etron is potentially hot stuff, fire recall

https://insideevs.com/news/353790/audi-recall-e-tron-charging-water-fire/amp/
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The fledgling i-Pace is also having difficulties:
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2019-2020 Jaguar I-Pace: Recall Alert | News | Cars.com
https://www.cars.com/articles/2019-2020-jaguar-i-pace-recall-alert-403454/
Vehicles Affected: Approximately 3,000 model-year 2019-20 Jaguar I-Pace electric vehicles
The Problem: If the regenerative brake system fails, there will be an increased delay between when the driver brakes and when the vehicle decelerates, increasing the risk of a crash.
...

What’s particularly noteworthy about these failures is that they are EV-related, illustrating that despite their decades of ICE manufacturing experience, OEMs cannot match Tesla’s EV expertise (and won’t for years, if ever).  Also, as shown by the headlines below, that in the public’s mind, EV = Tesla, and the e-tron and I-Pace are still unknowns.

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Don't Bet Against Elon (@SteveHamel16) 6/10/19, 5:13 PM
Why is @Tesla in the title of this article?

"Audi and Jaguar are recalling their Tesla rivals after realizing their batteries were at risk of catching fire"
#Pravduh

businessinsider.com/audi-jaguar-re…
https://twitter.com/stevehamel16/status/1138192491633696769
< To be fair, if the headline has said e-Tron and iPace recalled, the avg Business "insider" wouldn't know what they were talking about.  The word "Tesla" is synonymous with electric car, which should worry ICE OEM's.

Tesla Model Y Rivals From Audi, Jaguar Recall Vehicles For Safety Concerns
https://www.ibtimes.com/tesla-model-y-rivals-audi-jaguar-recall-vehicles-safety-concerns-2799512
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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #161 on: June 11, 2019, 04:21:21 PM »
Hydrogen station explodes, Toyota halts sales of fuel cell cars, is this the end?
Jun. 11th 2019 9:28 am ET
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A hydrogen refueling station exploded in Norway on Monday and the company operating the station has suspended operation at its other locations following the explosion.

Now, Toyota and Hyundai are both halting sales of fuel cell vehicles in the country. ...
https://electrek.co/2019/06/11/hydrogen-station-explodes-toyota-halts-sales-fuel-cell-cars/
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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #162 on: June 11, 2019, 06:32:54 PM »
U.S. Auto Dealers use “floorplan loans” to buy inventory.  They pay back the loan plus fees when a car is sold.  At least, that’s how it’s supposed to work.
Lenders now allege that dealerships sold vehicles without repaying the bank for floorplan loans, known as selling out of trust.

Auto dealers across U.S. face lender lawsuits, store closures
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Dealers and dealership groups across the country in recent months have faced lender lawsuits, store closures and even the loss of their entire businesses after allegedly selling vehicles out of trust.

The lender said that during a routine audit April 29 at Northwoods Auto, which operates as Northwoods Nissan, it discovered that the dealership had sold eight vehicles out of trust and failed to pay the captive nearly $274,000.  Nissan Motor Acceptance said in court filings that it believes the dealership is insolvent, has no way to repay it for vehicles sold out of trust and may file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

The lender, in its complaint filed in Hillsborough County, Fla., said it entered into agreements with the dealership in May 2018 for a $3.5 million new-vehicle floorplan line and in September for a $3 million used-vehicle floorplan line. By January, the dealership had allegedly defaulted on the loans and had overdrafted operating accounts, according to court records.
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Republic, in court filings, said that after Jan. 31, it learned the dealership had sold or financed 72 vehicles but didn't repay the more than $1.9 million due. A later audit found seven vehicles missing. Republic sought payment of nearly $5.7 million in loans on May 3. …
https://www.autonews.com/dealers/auto-dealers-across-us-face-lender-lawsuits-store-closures?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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Le scandal! New cars filling THREE levels of Daly City parking garage. Alert the #ParkingLotTruthers.
https://twitter.com/bonnienorman/status/1138265361944416256
Photos at the link.
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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #163 on: June 11, 2019, 09:52:39 PM »
Hydrogen station explodes, Toyota halts sales of fuel cell cars, is this the end?
Jun. 11th 2019 9:28 am ET
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A hydrogen refueling station exploded in Norway on Monday and the company operating the station has suspended operation at its other locations following the explosion.

Now, Toyota and Hyundai are both halting sales of fuel cell vehicles in the country. ...
https://electrek.co/2019/06/11/hydrogen-station-explodes-toyota-halts-sales-fuel-cell-cars/

There was this big airship called the Hindenburg that was full of hydrogen ... never a very safe gas to play with. This is like watching the Betamax producers trying to keep an idea alive after VHS has already taken over the market (millennials may need to google this). The problem for Toyota and Hyundai is that they kept investing in hydrogen fuel cells and got left behind in the EV space. Think what Toyota could have done if they had poured more investment in the Prius etc. Seems they have started to get the message .... but ...

Toyota unveils images of upcoming all-electric cars, accelerates EV plans by 5 years

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Toyota announced that it is accelerating its electric vehicle plans by 5 years and partnering with new battery makers to secure supply as it unveiled images of upcoming all-electric cars.

However, the automaker’s electrification plan is still heavily focused on hybrids instead of all-electric vehicles.
During a briefing with the press this week, Toyota Executive Vice President Shigeki Terashi said that the automaker plans for half of its global sales to be electrified vehicles by 2025 – 5 years ahead of previous plans.

Some automakers refer to “electrified vehicles” when talking about electric vehicle plans and they are generally using the term to talk about the mix of hybrid (HEV), plug-in hybrid (PHEV), and all-electric (BEV) vehicles.

Historically, Toyota has looked down on all-electric vehicles and been focusing on hybrids.

Terashi’s talk was titled “Aiming to Popularize BEVs”, but it was clear that the Japanese automaker is still focused on hybrids and fuel cell vehicles.

https://electrek.co/2019/06/07/toyota-electric-car-images-accelerate-plan/

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #164 on: June 12, 2019, 03:15:20 AM »
Change is hard.

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One thing that surprised me in 2019:
Model 3's supposed competitors didn't crash; they failed to even take off.
Leaf Plus... Kona Electric... etc.
https://twitter.com/valueanalyst1/status/1138481884747489282
GIF at the link:  failing to take off. ;)

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ValueAnalyst (@ValueAnalyst1) 6/10/19, 7:49 PM
"Toyota won't be abandoning the trademark hybrid technology pioneered in the Prius."

Prius sales sank 39% in 2019.

https://twitter.com/valueanalyst1/status/1138231664549797889
[Sales data image at the link.]
< Ruroh, gonna need some regulatory credits.
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"'We see continued and even increasing demand for hybrids on our vehicles,' said Mark Grueber, @Ford’s consumer-marketing manager. 'As we see the overall market moving from sedans to utilities and trucks, our focus is going to be on offering hybrids on those body styles.'"
https://twitter.com/valueanalyst1/status/1138458975488368641

Prius sales are falling, but hybrids are more popular than ever
https://www.twincities.com/2019/06/03/prius-sales-are-falling-but-hybrids-are-more-popular-than-ever-3/

Toyota pulls forward electrification plan, eyes solid-state battery next year
https://techboostdaily.com/2019/06/toyota-pulls-forward-electrification-plan-eyes-solid-state-battery-next-year-2/
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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #165 on: June 12, 2019, 05:55:13 PM »
Burning hydrogen is invisible.

June 1, 2019:  Hydrogen explosion shakes Santa Clara, California neighborhood
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"The tanker truck was in the process of being fueled and it began to leak and there was a large hissing noise. The workers on site tried attempted to shut down the valve of the line that was fueling one of the trucks," said Battalion Chief for Santa Clara Fire Dept., Drew Miller.

It took firefighters an hour and at least three aerial master streams to put out the fire. The biggest challenge? Hydrogen is invisible.

"They were also using thermal imaging cameras from different vantage points to make sure that the hydrogen wasn't burning even after it appeared that it was shut down," said Miller. ...
https://abc7news.com/amp/hydrogen-explosion-shakes-santa-clara-neighborhood/5326601/
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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #166 on: June 13, 2019, 01:45:32 PM »

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #167 on: June 13, 2019, 03:11:50 PM »
That one is about half cars/motorcycles scooters and such. Not quite sure if they have a similar date for cars there.

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #168 on: June 13, 2019, 06:03:36 PM »
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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #169 on: June 13, 2019, 09:32:27 PM »
Breaking:
Florida law lets autonomous vehicles drive without humans
By Associated Press June 13, 2019 at 12:15 PM EDT - Updated June 13 at 12:41 PM
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TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Self-driving vehicles will be able to operate in Florida without a human on board under a bill signed by Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis.

DeSantis signed the measure on Thursday at a test track for autonomous vehicles in Auburndale. The governor says he wants companies testing the vehicles to move to Florida.

The new law takes effect July 1. It will allow self-driving cars without humans on all roads as long as the vehicles meet insurance and safety requirements outlined in the new legislation.

Current law allows self-driving vehicles if a person is in the car as backup. The new law also exempts operators inside self-driving cars from laws that ban texting while driving and other potentially distracting activities.
https://www.mysuncoast.com/2019/06/13/florida-law-lets-autonomous-vehicles-drive-without-humans/
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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #170 on: June 13, 2019, 10:45:53 PM »
A year ago, China’s electric vehicle sales grew 126%. Now they’re at 2%

Misleading headline, as in May 2018 EV sales spiked over 100% y-o-y, then the growth level fell back the following months. There may well be a spike in sales this year in June as there is a big cut in EV subsidies at the end of the month. In May 2019 EV's had a 5.45% share of the Chinese light vehicle market.

https://qz.com/1641512/chinas-electric-vehicle-sales-grew-126-a-year-ago-now-theyre-at-2/

The Chinese government is making it easier to get licenses for EV's versus ICE's, a big deal in most major cities where there are severe restrictions on new licenses to limit congestion. This may help offset some of the cut in subsidies from the end of June

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Jia Xinguang, executive director of China Automobile Dealers Association, a government-based industry group, thinks the same. He told Chinese financial publication Yicai (link in Chinese) that rather than canceling the restrictions of all purchase limits, cities like Beijing could allocate more of the total quota available to NEVs. This year the city is giving (link in Chinese) 60,000 license plates to NEVs and 40,000 to traditional fuel cars.

https://qz.com/1639488/china-bars-cities-from-limiting-electric-car-purchases/.


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« Reply #171 on: June 15, 2019, 09:50:22 PM »
VW raising cash using its truck unit.  Article’s video mentions the  joint efforts with Ford in EVs and autonomy.

VW to float 10% of truck unit, seeks to raise 1.9 billion euros
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FRANKFURT (Reuters) - Volkswagen aims to raise up to 1.9 billion euros ($2.1 billion) by listing truck unit Traton, it said on Friday, scaling back earlier ambitions to list up to a quarter of the unit by opting to float a 10% stake.

The German carmaker said in a statement that the offering would be priced at 27-33 euros per share, which Jefferies analysts said valued Traton at a slight discount to industry peers but at a premium to Swedish competitor Volvo.
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Management denies that a Navistar deal is in immediate prospect, but such a move would fit with a broader pivot by the leading European carmaker towards the United States to balance its reliance on China, where it sells half its cars.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-volkswagen-traton-ipo/volkswagen-to-float-10-of-truck-unit-seeks-to-raise-1-9-billion-euros-idUSKCN1TF0K6
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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #172 on: June 17, 2019, 09:36:24 PM »
Meet The New 2019 Renault ZOE With 52 kWh Battery And 100 kW Motor
https://insideevs.com/news/355173/2019-renault-zoe-52-kwh-pack/

Electric van:  Nissan Received More Than 10,000 e-NV200 (40 kWh) Orders Since 2018
Over 20,000 Nissan e-NV200 were already delivered.  Nissan celebrates 10,000 orders placed for the e-NV200 van and Combi passenger variants in Europe, since the introduction of the 40 kWh battery version in February 2018.
https://insideevs.com/news/354883/nissan-10000-e-nv200-40-kwh-since-2018/amp/

Volkswagen Confirms Sales Of e-Golf In Canada In 2020
https://insideevs.com/news/354954/volkswagen-confirmed-sales-e-golf-canada-2020/amp/

VW announces ID battery warranty of 70% capacity for 8 years, confirms disappointing charge rate
125kW may be acceptable for a compact sedan, but VW is saying that will be the charging capacity for all ID vehicles.
https://electrek.co/2019/06/17/vw-id3-battery-warranty-charge-rate/

How BMW is trying to spark plug-in hybrid sales
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Plug-in hybrids have drawn flak in some environmental circles because even though they are designed to be driven using electric power, many are not.
BMW is determined to improve the vehicles' image. One big motivation? BMW must sell more plug-in hybrids so it can bring down its emissions and comply with European regulations.
Its approach: Make consumers more aware of the vehicles' benefits.
Challenged with Europe's mandate to cut fleet carbon dioxide emissions, BMW has launched a pilot program in Rotterdam, Netherlands, to encourage plug-in hybrid drivers to switch off their combustion engines and use battery power while driving in a downtown area….
https://www.autonews.com/sales/how-bmw-trying-spark-plug-hybrid-sales
< That's why the Chevy Volt got the Hold mode on Euro market: to enable saving the battery range until you enter an ICE restriction zone.

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Officially, MSRP of the Chevy Bolt is unchanged.  But after the federal tax credit decrease, GM dealers are offering discounts up to 10 and 11 thousand dollars.
Deep Discounts On Chevy Bolt - Up To $11,500 Off MSRP
https://insideevs.com/features/354296/deep-discounts-on-chevy-bolt/

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8) best gift. I’m now an electric lawnmower owner. #FathersDayWeekend
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Brian Kruhlak (@BrianKruhlak) 6/16/19, 9:18 PM
Officially done with ICE......unless you count my wife’s Prius. ...
https://twitter.com/briankruhlak/status/1140428363749658624
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Domino's Testing Autonomous Pizza Delivery in Houston
https://www.qsrmagazine.com/news/dominos-testing-autonomous-pizza-delivery-houston
Later this year.
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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #173 on: June 17, 2019, 09:42:12 PM »
EVs as % of new car sales in Norway
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Thematica (@Thematicafunds) 6/16/19, 12:30 PM
Electric Vehicle market share in Norway
2008: 0.22%
2009: 0.15%
2010: 0.31%
2011: 1.32%
2012: 3.24%
2013: 5.89%
2014: 13.34%
2015: 21.08%
2016: 26.64%
2017: 37.07%
2018: 46.42%

Source: IEA
https://twitter.com/thematicafunds/status/1140295588577251329

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London looks to install as many as 50,000+ EV charge points by 2025
https://electrek.co/2019/06/17/london-ev-charge-points-2025/
 
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While not committing to a launch date, Barra says she doesn't regret the 2019 target: "It's a rallying cry. And I think it's been motivational."
Exclusive: GM CEO Mary Barra on the race to be first with self-driving cars
https://amp.axios.com/general-motors-ceo-mary-barra-self-driving-cars-23f23d13-3fb8-413c-85a0-0edfbb9ca4df.html
(Hunh. When Elon Musk says the exact same thing, all we hear is cries of “Liar!” and “Fraud!”)

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Porsche thinks you'll want your next car to be electric
Electric cars will soon be common on American roads, even Porsche thinks so. American consumers are about to adopt electric cars on a large scale.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/06/17/porsche-predicts-american-consumers-adopt-electric-cars-column/1287505001/

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Polestar says it qualifies for separate $7,500 federal EV tax credit from Volvo parent
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Electric car maker Polestar will qualify for the $7,500 federal tax credit, and the company says it will do so separately from parent company Volvo. This would ensure both Polestar and Volvo could both sell 200,000 EVs before the credit begins to phase out. Let’s see how this works…
https://electrek.co/2019/05/03/polestar-ev-tax-credit/
From the comments:  VW Group’s  Audi, Porsche, and VW each get 200,000 credited cars.
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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #174 on: June 17, 2019, 09:49:18 PM »
Illusions
Alex Voigt
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Everybody who believes he has no illusions does actually harbor illusions, and that includes me. Unfortunately, it was not an illusion when I predicted in my articles last year that German automakers are not able to manufacture a car like a Tesla — otherwise, we would have seen it already. Such a vehicle is yet to arrive, and that’s not an illusion.

The latest efficiency tests of the Audi e-tron compared against others, as well as the released specifications of the Daimler EQE, confirm my darkest nightmares about the abilities of the highly praised German engineering world with respect to battery technology and all that belongs to it.

Some illusionists in the German auto industry not only risk their own jobs and companies, but also risk the economic welfare of Germany — in irresponsible and dangerous ways. That’s the only reason why I feel it to be my duty to write this article, others before it, and maybe a few more. …
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/06/15/illusions/

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In case anyone is still questioning where @edmunds interests stand... They are, literally, paying ad dollars to promote a drastically inferior product with misleading statements: …
https://twitter.com/valueanalyst1/status/1139950048454692864
(At the link: Pics of Edmunds-sponsored Twitter ads claiming Audi’s 204 mile range is not important, because it charges fast.)
- They cater to dealerships
< I bet the Audi’s batteries don’t last long

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VW confirmed today to have paid so far as a result of Dieselgate to lawyers and consultant fees of €1.77bn ($2bn)
??? wait - that's likely about 1 Gigafactory in China?!
https://twitter.com/alex_avoigt/status/1140352707657719808
- This is just for lawyers and consultants the VW group contracted directly. Its includes Audi as well as Porsche... still counting.
< Does that include settlement costs?
- Nope
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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #175 on: June 17, 2019, 11:09:17 PM »
Illusions
Alex Voigt
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Everybody who believes he has no illusions does actually harbor illusions, and that includes me. Unfortunately, it was not an illusion when I predicted in my articles last year that German automakers are not able to manufacture a car like a Tesla

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I really want to see some major car manufacturers selling large numbers of good, reasonably priced EVs but they let themselves fall into a deep hole by not taking EVs seriously enough a decade ago.  They've recently learned that one does not just slap some batteries and an electric motor on wheels and produce a state of the art EV.
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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #176 on: June 18, 2019, 05:07:56 PM »
“A dramatic fall in car sales means that Subaru Norway must terminate its employees and cut wages and other costs.”

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Tesla Driver  (@M_xalher) 6/17/19, 4:36 PM
Norway Subaru sales «plummeting», «down 66%» in 2019 due to «lack of EVs».
«Mazda down 45% last three years»
«Ford sales down 50% last 10 years».
Tesla «to the top» of sales statistics, after «trebling sales in 2019».

(Business daily Finansavisen)
https://twitter.com/m_xalher/status/1140719790585208833
Image of article (Norwegian) at the link
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