Happy New Year 2024 (and sorry for the forum being offline some hours) /DM
The way I see it, the debate went to Trump's advantage simply because he wasn't knocked-out. His voters don't really care about who was right, who was more presidential, etc/quote]I don't think that debates "move the needle" for EITHER candidates "base voters." Anyone who was in the Trump camp before....still is there (I think he could....quite literally shoot someone...and it wouldn't matter). Same is pretty much true for Clinton.Debates are about the UNDECIDED VOTERS. I guess we will find that out in a few days with new polls, etc. Trump would have been better off to have a good LAST HALF of the debate...instead of starting of better...and then finishing poorly. I think he lost the battle for the "undecided vote" last night. The good thing for him....is that there are 2 more battles (debates) to fight.I think that Clinton needs to attack Trump MORE on his tax policies.....which are HEAVILY WEIGHTED to helping the rich. That attack will resonate with middle class voters in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Also....both Ohio and Pennsylvania added a LOT of jobs over the last year....something she has to pound the table on.Giving the wealthy even MORE tax breaks.....and adding trillions of debt to the US budget to pay for it......is a plan that I would attack RELENTLESSLEY if I were Clinton in the next debates (if it is covered).
The way I see it, the debate went to Trump's advantage simply because he wasn't knocked-out. His voters don't really care about who was right, who was more presidential, etc.
Thank God I don't have to vote on this one.
"Clinton can win all three debates and still possibly lose the election."Yes, as did Kerry.
... But who [is] Johnson ...?
Forum members from the US: who are you going to vote for?
I don't know how much a debate matters to Trump supporters. If they can support him after all the drivel that has already come out of his mouth I don't think three more days matters much. Conservatives want a conservative even if they know their candidate is flawed. I am voting Clinton and I have a big eight foot sign at the end of the farm supporting a local liberal democrat candidate just to piss off the local rednecks. We are traveling down the road to two very different realities and the chasm between the two extremes may at some point swallow us whole.
I will plug my nose and vote for Clinton. I'd voted for Sanders in the primary, for all the good it did.
QuoteI will plug my nose and vote for Clinton. I'd voted for Sanders in the primary, for all the good it did.Talk with your friends, family, co-workers as well. I'll supply the nose plugs I have one myself.
The Arizona Republic [newspaper] was founded in 1890, and has served a state (and before that, a territory) that has been a consistently Republican stronghold. Consequently, for over 120 years it has never endorsed a Democrat for president. Well, at least, not until Tuesday, when it came out in favor of Hillary Clinton. It observed that:QuoteClinton retains her composure under pressure. She's tough. She doesn't back down. Trump responds to criticism with the petulance of verbal spit wads. That's beneath our national dignity. When the president of the United States speaks, the world expects substance. Not a blistering tweet. That's hitting The Donald where it's sure to sting....
Clinton retains her composure under pressure. She's tough. She doesn't back down. Trump responds to criticism with the petulance of verbal spit wads. That's beneath our national dignity. When the president of the United States speaks, the world expects substance. Not a blistering tweet.
I see someone voted for Trump. I'd really be curious to hear this person's rationale, but understand if you wish to remain anonymous.
I wonder what member and frequent contributor "Buddy", who has the "go ducks" avatar would say about the above cartoons using Donald Duck? Sleepy, your version of the duck looks to be enjoying a pint of Guinness.
QuoteI wonder what member and frequent contributor "Buddy", who has the "go ducks" avatar would say about the above cartoons using Donald Duck? Sleepy, your version of the duck looks to be enjoying a pint of Guinness.That actually is NOT a cartoon at all. It is an actual picture of me studying for my last final exam during my senior year at a bar called "The Faucet"
In the 34-year history of USA TODAY, the Editorial Board has never taken sides in the presidential race. Instead, we’ve expressed opinions about the major issues and haven’t presumed to tell our readers, who have a variety of priorities and values, which choice is best for them. Because every presidential race is different, we revisit our no-endorsement policy every four years. We’ve never seen reason to alter our approach. Until now.This year, the choice isn’t between two capable major party nominees who happen to have significant ideological differences. This year, one of the candidates — Republican nominee Donald Trump — is, by unanimous consensus of the Editorial Board, unfit for the presidency.From the day he declared his candidacy 15 months ago through this week’s first presidential debate, Trump has demonstrated repeatedly that he lacks the temperament, knowledge, steadiness and honesty that America needs from its presidents.
The "USA Today" Editorial Board has never taken sides in the presidential race. We're doing it now.QuoteIn the 34-year history of USA TODAY, the Editorial Board has never taken sides in the presidential race. Instead, we’ve expressed opinions about the major issues and haven’t presumed to tell our readers, who have a variety of priorities and values, which choice is best for them. Because every presidential race is different, we revisit our no-endorsement policy every four years. We’ve never seen reason to alter our approach. Until now.This year, the choice isn’t between two capable major party nominees who happen to have significant ideological differences. This year, one of the candidates — Republican nominee Donald Trump — is, by unanimous consensus of the Editorial Board, unfit for the presidency.From the day he declared his candidacy 15 months ago through this week’s first presidential debate, Trump has demonstrated repeatedly that he lacks the temperament, knowledge, steadiness and honesty that America needs from its presidents. http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/09/29/dont-vote-for-donald-trump-editorial-board-editorials-debates/91295020/Rachel Maddow noted this week that NO major daily paper has endorsed Trump.
Checking the poll status, only 21 members have voted. Surely there must be a lot more US citizens in the Forum's membership?
If you are being criticised for insulting women, should you stop or make sure you do a thorough job of the insults? Hmmm, obviously a tough one to decide that, (at least for one candidate).
