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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #5950 on: June 05, 2020, 04:09:28 PM »
[...] sometimes it really looks like if the guy would be "Adolf's" envoy [...]

Masha Gessen concurs:



AG Barr is meanwhile assembling a secret police - "Little Green Men". Well, at least they don't yet have the jails and torture chambers of Adolf's GeStaPo.



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« Reply #5951 on: June 05, 2020, 05:03:34 PM »
Hayes is one of the rare good ones on MSNBC.

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« Reply #5952 on: June 05, 2020, 06:57:49 PM »
Hayes is one of the rare good ones on MSNBC.
Rachel Maddow sure is their best. Perhaps a bit too brilliant (and that's why fake intellectuals with ego issues hate her). Chris Hayes has recently disgraced himself a bit over his handling of Tara Reade's (highly suspicious) accusations against Joe Biden. My MSNBC favorite is Joy Reid, who deserves more air time.
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« Reply #5953 on: June 06, 2020, 10:34:04 AM »
It's the same simple pattern since day one of his presidency: When there is a scandal, Trump sais some demented bullshit to outrage the media, the media becomes outraged over it, and loses focus on the actual issues.

Every. Single. Time. !!

And since what he does now is so extreme and unique, he turns it up on the 'say outraging shit publicly to distract the media' knob.

Trump composes his little distraction melodies, and ten minutes later you see the journalists lining up singing his song. It's truly the pied piper era.

As seen here:

This Is the Most Singularly Batsh*t Crazy Thing Any President Has Said Out Loud in Public

Link >> https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a32782241/trump-george-floyd-looking-down-great-day/

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« Reply #5954 on: June 06, 2020, 05:39:15 PM »
It's the same simple pattern since day one of his presidency: When there is a scandal, Trump sais some demented bullshit to outrage the media, the media becomes outraged over it, and loses focus on the actual issues.

Every. Single. Time. !!

And since what he does now is so extreme and unique, he turns it up on the 'say outraging shit publicly to distract the media' knob.

Trump composes his little distraction melodies, and ten minutes later you see the journalists lining up singing his song. It's truly the pied piper era.

As seen here:

This Is the Most Singularly Batsh*t Crazy Thing Any President Has Said Out Loud in Public

Link >> https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a32782241/trump-george-floyd-looking-down-great-day/

Yes. But methinks this is a counterexample. (As we Germans know, exceptions can confirm the rule :) )

Some of Trump's PR stunts are unintentional, and with the recent intentional ones he shot himself in the foot. Like, teargassing his way to a church to hold up the bible like an idiot who never held a book in his hands. The sacrilege sure cost him a little of his approval rating.

The “George is looking down right now" stunt I see as unintentional. This is just plain stupid Donald, in a situation that is way over his head - once again... Methinks it is paradigmatic for his complete failure of brains and ethics. A short proof of Trump's total ridicu-lousiness. (Like it's nice to have several proofs of Pythagoras' theorem.) So, this time, worth reporting. Especially when it helps eroding his religious base.

Alas Esquire quotes it a bit out of context, stupid Trump finding an excuse for police violence against protesters.  ;D ROTFL.

https://twitter.com/JimmyKimmelLive/status/1268206337256681474

(Weird: Youtube link not working here. The whole Kimmel video seems only available on FB and Twitter.)
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« Reply #5955 on: June 06, 2020, 06:33:54 PM »
The sacrilege sure cost him a little of his approval rating

Come November he's blowing the dog whistle some more times and the trumian cult members will have forgotten all about it.

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« Reply #5956 on: June 08, 2020, 10:28:58 AM »
For all of you Americans who can DO IT!!!


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« Reply #5957 on: June 10, 2020, 08:11:03 PM »
Not sure what it's worth, polls being pretty damn unreliable these days, but 538 aggregate polling (and most others) show Trump's support collapsing and his disapproval sky rocketing

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

And...for a bit of comic relief:

Trump campaign demands CNN apologize for poll that shows Biden leading

(This is NOT an Onion article!  :o )

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/10/politics/trump-campaign-cnn-poll/index.html
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« Reply #5958 on: June 10, 2020, 08:19:41 PM »
41.1% approve.

What is there left to say?

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« Reply #5959 on: June 10, 2020, 08:34:18 PM »
Right?

But that number keeps going down over the last few weeks. But, yeah, I have always found it rather flabbergasting and disheartening than anybody other than some lunatic fringe would support this guy.

But nearly the entire Republican Part seems to have become a large 'lunatic fringe'--his support remains higher than most other Republican presidents during their presidencies among Republicans.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #5960 on: June 10, 2020, 09:09:07 PM »
Could El Prezidente tell us Nordic people who was it who murdered O. Palme?

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« Reply #5961 on: June 10, 2020, 09:21:30 PM »
41.1% approve.

What is there left to say?


What's left to say is that this are FAR TOO MANY and it's not boding well when in such a clear case 40% of several hundred million would still support such an obvious evil person.


What's more to say is that as long as good vs. evil in this world is mostly around 50:50 there is NO WAY that anything will change quick enough for humankind to dodge the next cannonball of distruction.


You asked, i replied, hope it was not too offending to the T-Followers on the Forum. As i understood there are some, something that's even more surprising and contradictory to the goal of this forum

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #5962 on: June 11, 2020, 08:22:53 AM »
... several hundred million would still support such an obvious evil person. ...

I never understood how people could elect Hitler. In 2016 i understood. It all comes down to the dog whistle being blown loud enough.

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You can't possibly insult these people enough.

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« Reply #5963 on: June 11, 2020, 10:03:56 AM »

I never understood how people could elect Hitler. In 2016 i understood. It all comes down to the dog whistle being blown loud enough.

You can't possibly insult these people enough.

They're the dog who wags the tail to the abusive master hoping he won't hit them so hard this time. Nice metaphor there. No way to help them as they are owned.

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« Reply #5964 on: June 11, 2020, 12:17:34 PM »

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« Reply #5966 on: June 11, 2020, 01:32:27 PM »
It all comes down to the dog whistle being blown loud enough.

QED:

Trump Returns to Campaign Trail With Juneteenth Rally in Tulsa, Site of a Racist Massacre

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #5968 on: June 12, 2020, 01:41:21 AM »
Kimmel has the lightning strike Trump in a hilarious video [but me YouTube only due to techno-logical concerns and pragmatics].

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The Palmer Report, who has long run out of headlines and later even of superlatives, reports:
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Donald Trump [bla, bla,] worry about things like whether his fans will catch coronavirus [blabla] anyway. But the lawyers and corporate types surrounding him do have to worry about such things, [...].

People who attend the rally will be forced to sign a disclaimer agreeing not to take any legal action against Donald Trump or his campaign, according to [msm]. From a legal standpoint, it makes sense that Trump’s lawyers are doing this. These rallies are opening him up to massive litigation and damages, considering that there is little doubt that some people will catch the virus at Trump’s rallies, and a fraction of them will die.

But on a common sense level, if these rallies are so unsafe that attendees have to sign a document agreeing not to sue if they catch a deadly virus at the rally, it[...]’s an admission of negligence on his part.

[msm]. [...] Tulsa, the site of a massacre against black people, on Juneteenth, the date the last of the slaves were freed. [...] admitting to his own attendees that he’s putting their lives at risk just so he can bloviate in front of them.
https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/rally-is-already-a-complete-disaster-donald-trump/29628/
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« Reply #5969 on: June 12, 2020, 09:41:44 AM »
#NotTheOnion


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« Reply #5970 on: June 14, 2020, 07:42:59 AM »
Trump Has Trouble Lifting Glass of Water and Walking Down Stairs At West Point Graduation
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-trump-glass-water-west-point-20200613-dkioabuiirhz7pelj465p2j6he-story.html?outputType=amp

He’s trembling again.

President Trump struggled to lift a glass of water Saturday during his speech to U.S. Military Academy graduates at West Point.

https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/status/1271820635040362497

Trump started to lift the glass with his right hand but seemed unable to guide it all the way up to his lips.

The president used his left hand to steady the glass and tilt it into his mouth.

After his speech, Trump also looked unsteady as he walked down a set of stairs after a lethargic speech to the graduates of the Army college.

https://mobile.twitter.com/lipstickkills/status/1271889514768805889

He also had difficulty pronouncing the name of iconic World War II Gen. Douglas McArthur.

It’s the second time in a couple of weeks that Trump has drawn attention at a public event.

He appeared unable to stand still during a solemn ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery on Memorial Day. Some observers noted that he had difficulties lifting a wreath with his right arm.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1264955404607533058

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... From a medical standpoint, he appears to be exhibiting symptoms of a mini stroke or transient ischaemic attack (TIA). A TIA is a warning sign that he may be at risk of having a full stroke in the near future. Weakness in one arm, loss of balance, slurred speech are classic symptoms. Obesity and high blood pressure are contributing conditions.

Give the man another bucket of fried chicken...

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« Reply #5971 on: June 14, 2020, 05:17:50 PM »
Already wondering how much the presidential debate will resemble a geriatric verion of Beavis & Butthead...

Uhh
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« Reply #5972 on: June 14, 2020, 07:28:06 PM »
Already wondering how much the presidential debate will resemble a geriatric verion of Beavis & Butthead...


Nothing more emblematic of America's falling empire than the age of it's leaders.

Trump is younger than Pelosi, Biden and McConnell. Even the leader of the young people (Sanders) is older.

It's possible that there will be no presidential debates this cycle.


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« Reply #5973 on: June 15, 2020, 12:02:39 PM »
Trump is younger than Pelosi, Biden and McConnell. Even the leader of the young people (Sanders) is older.

If a younger candidate had championed the same, or more progressive policies, that is where the support would have gone.
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« Reply #5974 on: June 15, 2020, 12:31:36 PM »
Ktb, why Were there no younger Progressives?
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« Reply #5975 on: June 15, 2020, 05:04:00 PM »
Ktb, why Were there no younger Progressives?

There were. Buttigieg's original campaign was quite progressive. He quickly sold out to big pharma and big insurance.

If (big if) Biden wins 2020, I see no outcome that involves him attempting to remain in that office for 2024. Either his VP will be pushed to the campaign trail or someone else will be. Unfortunately Sanders will be much too old at that point. I look forward to the next set of progressives to step forward.

Hate Sanders all you want, there are few if any politicians whose integrity can match Bernies'. That is part of what I will be looking for in the next progressive champion.
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« Reply #5976 on: June 16, 2020, 12:47:51 AM »
Trump's disapproval rating in the aggregate polling at 538 is higher than any time in about a year and a half (since the depths of his idiotic government shut down).

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

Will this no ~6 week trend continue?
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« Reply #5977 on: June 16, 2020, 06:27:12 PM »
Damn he looks weak... He feels like he's losing, and it's showing...
All he wants to do now is to run away... But he can't, because he's got a real job now.  ;D ;D ;D

He's not going off-script much. That means he lacks the confidence. He's weak, and frail, and maybe sick?

After a lifetime of losing, he still doesn't know how to deal with it...

He's lonely... His support from repukes and his rich "friends" - that were only using him to get even richer - must be dwindling behind closed doors...

MSNBC couldn't watch it anymore... The man that made them all so much money is falling apart before their very own eyes, and so it's better to turn off the TV... LOSERS!!!!
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« Reply #5978 on: June 18, 2020, 11:31:33 PM »
Facebook Removes Trump Ads With Nazi Iconography
https://gizmodo.com/facebook-removes-trump-ads-with-nazi-iconography-1844084039

Measured against its peers, Facebook has been particularly soft on Donald Trump and his administration’s penchant for spewing violent rhetoric, misinformation, and outright lies. It seems, after no shortage of pressure, the social media company has found where it draws the line for a sitting president: the extraordinarily low bar of invoking symbols used in Nazi concentration camps.



These ads—an estimated 88 of them, according to Media Matters—asked for Facebook users to “stand with your President and his decision to declare ANTIFA a Terrorist Organization.” First of all, no such designation exists under the current law, but we already knew the gooey center of Trump’s mind palace has no grasp of how government functions. More importantly, these ads were all appended with a red, inverted triangle.



While not as immediately familiar in its affiliation to the Nazis, the red triangle was one of a litany of different badges which were sewn onto the uniforms of prisoners in concentration camps. This one historically connoted left-wingers: socialists, unionists, communists, other members of opposition parties, and those who had helped to rescue Jews.



That context being what it is, one would imagine it would be hard to argue the overlap in description was purely accidental. Instead, Trump’s team is claiming that the inverted red triangle is “an emoji” and “a symbol widely used by Antifa.” (Only one of those things is true.)

These ads—which, let’s not lose sight of the present danger, proposed classifying political dissidents as terrorists—began running on Facebook yesterday. But it wasn’t until today, in the middle of Facebook head of security policy Nathaniel Gleicher’s testimony before Congress that the ads were removed. “We don’t allow symbols that represent hateful organizations or ideologies unless they’re put up with context or condemnation,” Gleicher said when questioned by Rep. Eric Swalwell. “You obviously want to be careful to allow someone to put a symbol to condemn it or to discuss it.”

... For unrelated reasons, if you would like to delete your Facebook account, here’s the link to do that.

https://www.facebook.com/help/delete_account
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« Reply #5979 on: June 20, 2020, 05:19:27 AM »
It's late Friday night, so the knives come out ...

U.S. Attorney Who Investigated Trump Associates Is Abruptly Ousted
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/19/nyregion/us-attorney-manhattan-trump.html

The United States attorney in Manhattan, Geoffrey Berman, had been leading the investigation into Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer.

The Justice Department on Friday abruptly ousted the United States attorney in Manhattan, Geoffrey S. Berman, the powerful federal prosecutor whose office sent President Trump’s former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, to prison and who has been investigating Mr. Trump’s current personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani.

The announcement that Mr. Berman would be replaced was made with no notice by Attorney General William P. Barr, who said the president intended to nominate as Mr. Berman’s successor Jay Clayton, current chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Mr. Barr asked Mr. Berman to resign but he refused so Mr. Barr fired him, according to a person familiar with the matter. Mr. Trump had been discussing removing Mr. Berman for some time with a small group of advisers, the person said.

Mr. Berman has taken an aggressive approach in a number of cases that have vexed the Trump administration, from the prosecution and guilty pleas obtained from Mr. Cohen to a broader investigation, growing out of that inquiry, which focused on Mr. Trump’s private company and others close to him.

Over the last year, Mr. Berman’s office brought indictments against two close associates of the president’s current lawyer, Mr. Giuliani, and began an investigation into Mr. Giuliani himself, focusing on whether his efforts to dig up dirt in Ukraine on the president’s political rivals violated laws on lobbying for foreign entities.

Mr. Berman’s office also conducted an investigation into Mr. Trump’s inaugural committee, subpoenaing financial and other records as part of a broad inquiry into possible illegal contributions from foreigners.

Mr. Berman’s abrupt removal came just days after Mr. Trump’s former National Security adviser, John Bolton, alleged in his new book that Mr. Trump sought to interfere in an investigation by Mr. Berman’s office into a Turkish bank, in a bid to cut deals with the Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.

.... U.S. attorneys are typically replaced by their first assistants, but Mr. Berman is being replaced by an outsider who has never worked in that office.

It is a highly unusual decision, but it is not the first time this has happened under Mr. Trump. When Jessie K. Liu left the United States Attorney’s Office in Washington, she was replaced by an ally of Mr. Barr, Timothy Shea, rather than her first assistant.

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They Shoot Lawyers Dont They?: Law In the Third Reich and the Global Threat to the Independence of the Judiciary
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://scholarlycommons.law.cwsl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi%3Farticle%3D1378%26context%3Dcwilj&ved=2ahUKEwio5bChu4_qAhX0oXIEHQgADcUQFjAEegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw0oLK3nF_loTjQ-v0JVBOAr&cshid=1592624519010

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After taking power in 1933, the Nazis quickly moved to remove internal opposition to the Nazi regime in Germany. The legal system became one of many tools for this aim and the Nazis gradually supplanted the normal justice system with political courts with wide-ranging powers. The function of the special courts was to intimidate the German public.

A more permanent national network of Special Courts came into being during 1933, soon after the passage of the Reichstag Fire Decree, which all but eliminated civil liberties. The scope of its power was successively augmented by

- the "Decree to Protect the Government of the National Socialist Revolution from Treacherous Attacks" (21 March 1933),
- the "Law of 20 December 1934 against insidious Attacks upon the State and Party and for the Protection of the Party Uniform",
- the "Law for the Guarantee of Peace Based on Law" of 13 October 1933
- and a number of extensions when World War II commenced.

A special court had three judges, and the defense counsel was appointed by the court. Even as heavy-handed as justice was in Nazi Germany, defendants were afforded at least nominal protections under the regular courts' rules and procedures. These protections were swept away in the special courts, since they existed outside the ordinary judicial system. There was no possibility of appeal, and verdicts could be executed at once. The court decided the extent of evidence to consider, and "the defense attorneys couldn't question the proof of the charges".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sondergericht
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« Reply #5980 on: June 24, 2020, 07:59:13 PM »
Putin is holding a military parade, 10 days before Americannot independence...
Who do you think gets irritated by that?

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Bolton on CNN now!
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #5982 on: June 27, 2020, 02:32:30 AM »
I don't think Biden will be running against Trump. It looks like Trump has given up. Joe Scarborough had a good theory this morning, that Trump doesn't really want a second term. That's why he's preaching to his hard core supporters. If they stay with him, he'll have a lot of customers for his new TV station that he can make money with. And I think he could be right. Trump doesn't really want this this job anymore. He never wanted it in the first place, so I think Joe is right; Trump will soon resign, because he hates losing, and the way it looks right now, he'll get his ass kicked badly.

Take with that the SARS2 catastrophe that's happening now, with a wrecked economy and no end in sight for the virus, I think people will start to begin to ask for his resignation.

So shall we place a bet? Will Trump run? Run for president, or run away from his responsibility? I say he will be forced to resign soon. If not resign, then he'll lose badly and blame it on a rigged election. He already started doing that, so... Biden vs Pence?
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #5983 on: June 27, 2020, 01:25:08 PM »
I don't think Biden will be running against Trump. It looks like Trump has given up. Joe Scarborough had a good theory this morning, that Trump doesn't really want a second term. That's why he's preaching to his hard core supporters. If they stay with him, he'll have a lot of customers for his new TV station that he can make money with. And I think he could be right. Trump doesn't really want this this job anymore. He never wanted it in the first place, so I think Joe is right; Trump will soon resign, because he hates losing, and the way it looks right now, he'll get his ass kicked badly.

Take with that the SARS2 catastrophe that's happening now, with a wrecked economy and no end in sight for the virus, I think people will start to begin to ask for his resignation.

So shall we place a bet? Will Trump run? Run for president, or run away from his responsibility? I say he will be forced to resign soon. If not resign, then he'll lose badly and blame it on a rigged election. He already started doing that, so... Biden vs Pence?
Why resign ?  it's all over on the 20th Jan 2021 anyway.

The Twentieth Amendment (Amendment XX) to the United States Constitution moved the beginning and ending of the terms of the president and vice president from March 4 to January 20, and of members of Congress from March 4 to January 3.

Why try for another 4 years?
There are a number of court cases out there - some carrying potential time in The Big House - with a statute of limitations ending after Jan 2021 and before Jan 2025. But a man who thinks he's invincible might ignore that.

So, maybe Trump will just not run for a 2nd term. After all, "The Best President That The USA Has Ever Had" might want to leave at the top. And how to do that? Wait until the last moment before announcing he is not a candidate for President. Blame the GOP for being a bunch of girlies for not supporting him, and even betraying him. And how can even the heroic magisterial Trump win with the voting system rigged against him by The Dark State aided and abetted by Fake News leftie antifa commies? That would satisfy his destructive instincts and his need, craving, lust for bigly headlines.

I must admit that scenario would be super duper. Shall I write to him and ask to be his script writer?
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #5984 on: June 27, 2020, 01:34:43 PM »
He will run. Such narcissists are rarely aware when their situation is worsening (if indeed it is).

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #5985 on: June 27, 2020, 01:37:20 PM »
He will run. Such narcissists are rarely aware when their situation is worsening (if indeed it is).
Spoiler. If Trump can ignore reality then so can I, at least on this thread.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #5986 on: June 30, 2020, 04:13:21 PM »

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #5987 on: July 01, 2020, 11:01:38 AM »
Bless whoever did this.


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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #5988 on: July 04, 2020, 09:55:32 AM »
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #5989 on: July 06, 2020, 05:40:52 AM »
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #5990 on: July 07, 2020, 03:01:06 AM »
Fox News Edits Comrade Trump Out of Photo With Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell at Mar-a-Lago
https://gizmodo.com/fox-news-edits-trump-out-of-photo-with-jeffrey-epstein-1844276574



Fox News broadcast a segment on Sunday about Ghislane Maxwell, the 58-year-old British socialite who was arrested by the FBI in New Hampshire last week and charged with the sex trafficking of children in the 1990s. Maxwell was a close friend of deceased pedophile Jeffrey Epstein and Fox aired a photo of Maxwell that should look familiar to anyone who followed reports of Epstein’s abuse of teenage girls. But there was one thing missing from the image that Fox put on screen: President Donald Trump.

The photo was taken at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach, Florida on February 12, 2000. Twitter users were the first to spot the strange edit by Fox News.

The news clip from Sunday, which is available on YouTube, shows the selective editing by Fox News to delete President Trump from the photo.



President Pedophile

Trump supporters are often reluctant to acknowledge Epstein’s ties weren’t just to well-known Democrats like Clinton and Richardson. Trump has extensive connections to Jeffrey Epstein and there are many photos and videos of the two men together over the years. Getty Images has a photo of Epstein with Trump at Mar-a-Lago in 1997, taken just a few years after one anonymous woman alleged she was raped by Trump when she was 13 at Epstein’s mansion.

What happens next with Maxwell’s case? A lot of people are predicting that she might meet a similar fate to Epstein, dying of “suicide,” before she can talk about her defense. And there’s one new fact that might rise the eyebrows of conspiracy theorists around the world: According to the New York Daily News, Maxwell might soon be sent to the same jail where Epstein died.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #5991 on: July 07, 2020, 06:20:21 AM »
"President Pedophile child rapist"

Mysoped would be better. This is not about love but about control and power. Loveless lust and feeling good about being a bad boy among your bad boy friends groups (i.e. older very rich 'supreme' or 'aristocratic' men).

It would be an enormous win for truth and public understanding if it became really clear what perverse and heinous secret acts are performed by aforementioned groups. It may disgust even President Trump's supporters. And aristocracy supporters.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #5992 on: July 08, 2020, 10:07:42 AM »

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #5993 on: July 08, 2020, 11:08:40 AM »
Or ignore because it´s Facebook...


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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #5994 on: July 08, 2020, 11:25:02 AM »
Polling from a divided country:

Trump's overall approval sits at 38%, 3% above his lowest on record of 35%, and 8% lower than in Jan to May this year.  And there's a massive partisan gap within these figures - his approval stats among Republican voters sit at 91%, vs 33% among Independent voters and 2% among Democrat voters.  "The current 89-point difference between Republicans' and Democrats' ratings of Trump is the largest partisan gap Gallup has ever measured for a presidential approval rating in a single survey."

https://news.gallup.com/poll/313454/trump-job-approval-rating-steady-lower-level.aspx

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #5995 on: July 08, 2020, 03:23:46 PM »
Or ignore because it´s Facebook...

Examples always limp I know but if facebook contains a video that is explaining let's say the event horizon of blackholes in a correct way, why would you have to ignore it.

This kind of generalization is never a good idea, it's fragmenting society and and at the end have the verious "religious" groups clash.

If you dislike the video, then why, if it's fitting into this thread and understood the way it is meant, please refreain from ridiculing either facebook or other users with such replies.

Posting a link i received via email that links to facebook does neither make the content wrong here, wrong at all, nor does it make me a facebook fanboy or regular user.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #5996 on: July 08, 2020, 04:12:40 PM »
Some people just abhor Facebook.

If you care about sharing you could locate the original link to the video and post that.

And barring that why not mention what it is about. Is it an text article (probably not since no quotes). If it is a video and it´s long provide a time stamp.

You have watched it but we have not provided it is new to us.

I would just like a clearer description of what i get when going to a link because my time is precious. Or maybe think about it in another way. If you post a link you tell people why they should read it. I only post text so i use short relevant quotes.

They are enough to see if the subject interests you. With videos you cannot even skip paragraphs so then time stamps become more important.

If you think there is something worth sharing just tell us what it is you are sharing. 
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #5997 on: July 08, 2020, 05:31:34 PM »
Some people just abhor Facebook.

If you care about sharing you could locate the original link to the video and post that.

And barring that why not mention what it is about. Is it an text article (probably not since no quotes). If it is a video and it´s long provide a time stamp.

You have watched it but we have not provided it is new to us.
I would just like a clearer description of what i get when going to a link because my time is precious. Or maybe think about it in another way. If you post a link you tell people why they should read it. I only post text so i use short relevant quotes.
They are enough to see if the subject interests you. With videos you cannot even skip paragraphs so then time stamps become more important.
If you think there is something worth sharing just tell us what it is you are sharing.


On one hand I understand what you're saying and I'm not that far from it. I got the link from a person who would never ever send me real trash.

The idea with following up to the original link is good, question remains whether we have to do unnecessary work to please as many as possible or if in the long run we should more clean in front of our on doorstep and stay authentic/ourselves.

However that may be, I cannot say that I generally disagree with your point, in fact, generally I would share your standpoint.

Thanks for explanation, if i find a future facebook content important, I'll probably take the path you proposed to avoid anymosities, in this case I probably wouldn't because it's just funny/sad bywork.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #5998 on: July 09, 2020, 03:03:57 AM »
Supreme Court set to decide who can see Trump’s tax returns, financial records
https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/07/08/supreme-court-trump-tax-returns-financial-records-353428


The Supreme Court is set to unveil its decision on Thursday about whether Congress gets to see President Donald Trump’s tax returns and financial records, a ruling that could reshape the balance of power between lawmakers and the White House in the most dramatic way since Watergate.

The court’s final opinion day of its 2019-20 term also includes a related dispute about whether New York prosecutors can similarly access Trump’s financial records, held by his accounting firm and banks.

A decision to reject Trump’s legal challenges could result in voters getting to see the tax returns he has resisted disclosing since launching his presidential campaign in 2015. The justices are also set to rule on grand jury subpoenas that a Manhattan prosecutor is using to demand many of the same tax and financial records in a criminal investigation that appears to be focused on the tax practices of Trump’s business empire.

While the New York prosecutor’s investigation could be considered more urgent legally, since it involves a criminal investigation, the House inquiries may pack more of a political punch. That’s because while records turned over under a grand jury subpoena are required to be kept secret at least until charges are filed, lawmakers are under no such obligation and could release the Trump financial files in the lead-up to the election.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #5999 on: July 09, 2020, 03:33:54 PM »
The USA in a nutshell: