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Tom_Mazanec

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #6350 on: January 14, 2021, 12:36:40 PM »
Five people died in the Capitol riot last week.
At least nineteen people died in George Floyd protests:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_and_controversies_during_the_George_Floyd_protests

If the USA falls into a Second Civil War, it will be because people on both sides say "Your violence is Evil, my violence is Good."
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #6351 on: January 14, 2021, 01:34:06 PM »
Disgruntled Employee Changed The State Department’s Website To Say That Trump’s Term Ends Today

This story doesnt add up for multiple reasons.

The page didnt exist before the day it was supposed to have been changed.
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://state.gov/biographies/donald-j-trump/

There was no links to the page from the website, either through a menu or hyperlink.

The page was updated multiple times with the only change being the time of the change.

If you try the pages now they redirect to the home page
http://state.gov/biographies/donald-j-trump/


My suspicion is that an employee was creating new pages in advance of Biden taking over and accidentally exposed it so it was found by a google search.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #6352 on: January 14, 2021, 02:56:31 PM »
If it's shown that members in capital hill helped protestors to case the joint the day before then this could be explosive.

https://sherrill.house.gov/sites/sherrill.house.gov/files/wysiwyg_uploaded/2020.01.13_Sherrill%20Letter%20to%20USCP%20and%20SAA.pdf
« Last Edit: January 14, 2021, 03:06:37 PM by BeeKnees »

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #6353 on: January 14, 2021, 06:35:25 PM »
Dear Tom,
You wrote:
'be cause & gerontocrat:
I notice that the most cogent arguments you can make against my linked article are, basically, to foam at the mouth
.'
While it is true that you have engendered a certain amount of gnashing of teeth and foaming at mouths, the reasons do not include acknowledgement and frustration by the devastating strength of your argument.
Indeed, quite the opposite.
I draw to your attention the concept of Logical Fallacies, linked here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
In the interests of saving time, I direct you to the fallacy of 'False Equivalence:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence

Equating BLM protests against extra judicial killings of an identified group with a mass insurrection based on anger against a legal election is an example of a false equivalency.

It is an easy trap to fall into, one that you are regularly ensnared by, but the moderators of this forum have wisely requested we do not take it up with you.

Regards,
Sebastian

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #6354 on: January 14, 2021, 07:37:06 PM »
Sebastian:
Quote
"The Deepwater Horizon oil spill is no more harmful than when your neighbor drips some oil on the ground when changing his car's oil."
The comparison is between things differing by many orders of magnitude: Deepwater Horizon spilled 210 million US gal (790 million L) of oil; one's neighbor might spill perhaps 1 US pt (0.47 L).
"They're both living animals that metabolize chemical energy. Therefore there's little difference between having a pet cat and a pet snail."
The "equivalence" is in factors that are not relevant to the animals' suitability as pets.
From your citation.
The magnitude is clearly the same...19 deaths vs 5. The magnitude actually was larger in the George Floyd protests.
As for the second example, the Left says they are fighting for the Human Rights of Minorities. The Right says they are fighting for the God-Given rights our Founding Fathers risked their lives for, and millions of soldiers have died for.
Both sides, as I said, are saying "My violence Good, your violence bad."
I renounce all violence.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #6355 on: January 14, 2021, 10:21:52 PM »
But no one in the GF protests stormed the capitol.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #6356 on: January 14, 2021, 11:05:40 PM »
A classic false equivalence.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #6357 on: January 15, 2021, 12:07:48 AM »
US police three times as likely to use force against leftwing protesters, data finds

Law enforcement responses to more than 13,000 protests show a clear disparity in responses, new statistics show

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/13/us-police-use-of-force-protests-black-lives-matter-far-right
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #6358 on: January 15, 2021, 02:20:45 AM »
Better late than never...
MUST SEE!

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #6359 on: January 15, 2021, 12:09:53 PM »
What I really appreciate @ Arnie is how he chose to spend the millions gifted to him by DT. in the millionaires tax bonanza . He saw the campaign for better access to voting in the southern states even as polling stations and drop-boxes were being removed by his fellow republicans . He spent $10 million in states like Georgia (where a dear friend of mine was among the campaigners . Sadly she died before she could witness the result of her efforts . ). It is reckoned his actions increased Democratic voter participation by as many as 30 ,000 votes in Georgia alone . Thank you , Arnie . b.c.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #6360 on: January 15, 2021, 11:33:42 PM »
“There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.” ― Leonardo da Vinci

Insensible before the wave so soon released by callous fate. Affected most, they understand the least, and understanding, when it comes, invariably arrives too late