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« Reply #3800 on: March 10, 2018, 06:37:55 PM »
If Trump cuts a nuclear deal with North Korea, that would increase the probability that he would not recertify the nuclear deal with Iran (which would please his apocalyptic born-again backers).
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« Reply #3801 on: March 10, 2018, 07:49:49 PM »
Don't get your hopes up about a nuclear deal. This is a disaster in the making (I hope I'm wrong). As far as I can discern, KJU is quite a bit smarter than DJT. (His school buddies in Switzerland have much good to report!)

Re steel tariffs, expert opinion says China will benefit. It doesn't sell much steel to the US, but it will sell its steel to the rest of the world, cutting into our markets.

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« Reply #3802 on: March 11, 2018, 07:26:31 PM »
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Re steel tariffs, expert opinion says China will benefit. It doesn't sell much steel to the US, but it will sell its steel to the rest of the world, cutting into our markets.

Not likely. EU steel and iron tariffs on China's exports are still in effect and have been extended for at least another year. It is unlikely that EU will remove them anytime soon. It is more likely that other western countries (like Canada) will also impose steel and iron tariffs on China, following EU and US examples.

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« Reply #3803 on: March 11, 2018, 07:38:29 PM »
How much of the world can Traitor Donnie trash before he is given the boot?  Inquiring minds want to know....

EPA Considers Allowing Bee-Killing Pesticide to Be Sprayed on 165 Million Acres of U.S. Farmland

https://www.ecowatch.com/syngenta-neonicotinoids-2518688773.html
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« Reply #3804 on: March 11, 2018, 10:49:39 PM »
Trump ups the ante: will tax EU cars if EU retaliates for steel,aluminum tariffs:

http://www.dw.com/en/trump-threatens-with-tariffs-on-european-cars-as-trade-war-looms/a-42927704

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« Reply #3805 on: March 12, 2018, 02:50:09 AM »
Trump ups the ante: will tax EU cars if EU retaliates for steel,aluminum tariffs:

http://www.dw.com/en/trump-threatens-with-tariffs-on-european-cars-as-trade-war-looms/a-42927704

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I'm betting he doesn't know those EU car makers are producing their cars mostly in states that Trump won.

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« Reply #3806 on: March 12, 2018, 03:16:58 AM »
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Re steel tariffs, expert opinion says China will benefit. It doesn't sell much steel to the US, but it will sell its steel to the rest of the world, cutting into our markets.

Not likely. EU steel and iron tariffs on China's exports are still in effect and have been extended for at least another year. It is unlikely that EU will remove them anytime soon. It is more likely that other western countries (like Canada) will also impose steel and iron tariffs on China, following EU and US examples.

If you say so (maybe). I listened to an in-depth analysis on the steel situation, and may have misrepresented it, but I'm hardly an expert. Still, it makes sense to me that the rest of the world would be wary of dealing with us and China could easily benefit. Here's more:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/10/world/asia/china-north-korea-trump-tariffs.html

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« Reply #3807 on: March 12, 2018, 04:41:03 PM »
Hopefully, Pa. voters will learn what Trump really thinks about Rick Saccone before the vote in the March 13th special election:

Trump privately slamming GOP candidate in Pa. House race as 'weak': report

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/377871-trump-privately-slamming-gop-candidate-in-pa-house-race-as-weak-report

Extract: "President Trump has been privately attacking the GOP candidate in the Pennsylvania House special election, Axios reported Sunday."


Edit, see also:

Title: "Trump privately trashes Rick Saccone"

Extract: "Bottom line: Cook Political Report's Amy Walter emailed me this quick analysis: "My short answer is that one should never read too much into any one race but this is more than Saccone. This is a red congressional district that should go for the generic Republican. But the environment today is much worse than 'normal' for Republicans. That’s not because of Saccone or Lamb, but because of Trump.""
https://www.axios.com/scoop-trump-privately-trashes-rick-saccone-1520806446-c7033bad-f7a4-4d92-80a7-40113967a0e2.html
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« Reply #3808 on: March 12, 2018, 07:10:32 PM »
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After weeks of closing the gap with Pennsylvania Republican state Rep. Rick Saccone, Lamb has taken a commanding lead just a day before the special election on Tuesday. According to the Monmouth University poll, Lamb leads Saccone by a margin as large as 51 to 44 percent, depending on the turnout model.

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« Reply #3809 on: March 12, 2018, 09:47:57 PM »
My pal Sean....

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« Reply #3810 on: March 13, 2018, 02:25:59 PM »
If you want what Putin has..... and Traitor Don DEFINITELY does.... then you have to eventually control the vote:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/12/politics/secret-service-polling-places-white-house-elections/index.html
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« Reply #3811 on: March 13, 2018, 03:30:25 PM »
It looks to me like The Donald is getting ready to de-certify the Iran Nuclear deal (which will make the apocalyptic born-again voters happy):

Title: "Trump: I made decision to oust Tillerson "by myself""

https://www.axios.com/trump-tillerson-decision-by-myself-f521e122-2067-43bf-835d-1701ae84b507.html?source=sidebar

Extract: "President Trump told reporters as he left the White House Tuesday that he made the decision to fire Secretary of State Rex Tillerson "by myself" and admitted that he "didn't really discuss it much" with Tillerson before announcing it on Twitter.

His reasoning: Trump said that he appreciated Tillerson's commitment the position, but that the two "disagreed on things." The president said that he and Pompeo are much more aligned, adding, "From day one, I have gotten along with Mike Pompeo.""

See also:

Title: "The bad blood between Trump and Tillerson"

https://www.axios.com/the-history-of-feuding-between-tillerson-trump-1520946730-41f6637e-7909-4f33-b11d-71f4f59f5381.html?source=sidebar

Extract: "After Tillerson's firing, Trump brought up their differences over the Iran Nuclear deal. Tillerson has recommended that Trump re-certify Iran's compliance with the nuclear deal; while Trump has said the U.S. will pull out of the deal if big changes are not made."
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« Reply #3812 on: March 13, 2018, 04:33:37 PM »
It looks to me like The Donald is getting ready to de-certify the Iran Nuclear deal (which will make the apocalyptic born-again voters happy):

Title: "Trump: I made decision to oust Tillerson "by myself""

https://www.axios.com/trump-tillerson-decision-by-myself-f521e122-2067-43bf-835d-1701ae84b507.html?source=sidebar

Extract: "President Trump told reporters as he left the White House Tuesday that he made the decision to fire Secretary of State Rex Tillerson "by myself" and admitted that he "didn't really discuss it much" with Tillerson before announcing it on Twitter.

His reasoning: Trump said that he appreciated Tillerson's commitment the position, but that the two "disagreed on things." The president said that he and Pompeo are much more aligned, adding, "From day one, I have gotten along with Mike Pompeo.""

See also:

Title: "The bad blood between Trump and Tillerson"

https://www.axios.com/the-history-of-feuding-between-tillerson-trump-1520946730-41f6637e-7909-4f33-b11d-71f4f59f5381.html?source=sidebar

Extract: "After Tillerson's firing, Trump brought up their differences over the Iran Nuclear deal. Tillerson has recommended that Trump re-certify Iran's compliance with the nuclear deal; while Trump has said the U.S. will pull out of the deal if big changes are not made."

Yep.  This should really have us all quaking in our boots.  According to Wikipedia, Pompeo was a vocal opponent of the Iran nuclear deal.  I'd expect that deal to be dead soon.  I don't see that Trump, playing the tough guy, is going to end up with any acceptable option (in his own mind) other than a hot war with Iran.

Which makes me think that suddenly playing nice with NKorea is from a choice he made about which country he wants to wage war with.  NKorea would be a much messier war.  Trump can wage war on Iran from the air--no invasions in either direction.  A war made to order for a sociopath.

Of course, waging war with Iran would take all Iranian oil production off the world market, as well as all the oil that gets shipped through the Strait of Hormuz.  Crude oil at $200 - 400 per barrel strikes me as plausible, for weeks, maybe months.

Who would benefit? Russia, mostly.  The US frackers and other oil producers.  Saudi Arabia might not, with that large part of its shipments passing through the Strait.  Though the Saudis would likely be fine with a temporary lull in sales, in the interest of seeing Iran attacked.  Heaven help us.

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« Reply #3813 on: March 13, 2018, 04:54:49 PM »
Yep.  This should really have us all quaking in our boots.

80% of evangelicals voted for Trump, now it is payback time for Trump/Pence to give Armageddon a nudge by confronting Iran:

Title: "Postcards From Armageddon: Trump-touting Tourists Come Out in Droves to See the End of the World"

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/travel/.premium-at-armageddon-some-topics-are-best-avoided-around-jews-1.5791569

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•   Armageddon? Bring it on: The evangelical force behind Trump's Jerusalem speech
•   Lucky the Jews didn’t understand what Mike Pence was really saying
•   Let the left revile 'Preacher Pence'. The VP showed what sincere evangelical love for Israel looks like
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« Reply #3814 on: March 13, 2018, 05:11:31 PM »
Mind-boggling personnel incident at the White House today, McEntee this time.  Just read two headlines (!!!!):

Longtime Trump aide fired over financial crime investigation
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/13/politics/john-mcentee-white-house-security-clearance/index.html

McEntee was escorted off the White House grounds.  However, thing's aren't so bad for McEntee:

Trump fires White House assistant John McEntee, who promptly rejoins Trump’s campaign
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2018/03/13/trump-fires-white-house-assistant-john-mcentee-who-promptly-rejoins-trumps-campaign/?utm_term=.bf35ce216bb1

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“We need the help of proven leaders such as ... John to promote the President’s growing portfolio of achievements across the country,” campaign manager Brad Parscale said in a statement.

Unbelievable.

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« Reply #3815 on: March 13, 2018, 05:14:56 PM »
[...]
Title: "Trump: I made decision to oust Tillerson "by myself""

https://www.axios.com/trump-tillerson-decision-by-myself-f521e122-2067-43bf-835d-1701ae84b507.html?source=sidebar

Extract: "President Trump told reporters as he left the White House Tuesday that he made the decision to fire Secretary of State Rex Tillerson "by myself" and admitted that he "didn't really discuss it much" with Tillerson before announcing it on Twitter.

His reasoning: Trump said that he appreciated Tillerson's commitment the position, but that the two "disagreed on things." The president said that he and Pompeo are much more aligned, adding, "From day one, I have gotten along with Mike Pompeo.""

See also:

Title: "The bad blood between Trump and Tillerson"

https://www.axios.com/the-history-of-feuding-between-tillerson-trump-1520946730-41f6637e-7909-4f33-b11d-71f4f59f5381.html?source=sidebar

Extract: "After Tillerson's firing, Trump brought up their differences over the Iran Nuclear deal. Tillerson has recommended that Trump re-certify Iran's compliance with the nuclear deal; while Trump has said the U.S. will pull out of the deal if big changes are not made."

Yep.  This should really have us all quaking in our boots.  According to Wikipedia, Pompeo was a vocal opponent of the Iran nuclear deal.
Yes. This could lead into another ridiculous and deadly case of political abuse of the CIA, a la Iraq.
But I haven't looked into Pompeo yet.
Trump hasn't yet managed to weaken up the "deep state" (i.e. the professionals who make America something different to a Banana republic with nukes - after much failure and (some) learning last century) as much as GW Bush & Cheney.

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« Reply #3816 on: March 13, 2018, 05:31:14 PM »
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The now-former spokesman, James Schwab, told news outlets late Monday that his resignation stemmed from statements by Homan and Sessions that potentially hundreds of “criminal aliens” evaded ICE during a Northern California raid in February because Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf warned the immigrant community in advance.

Schwab said he pushed back on that characterization  — but said ICE instructed him to “deflect” questions from the news media.

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« Reply #3817 on: March 13, 2018, 05:58:29 PM »
I expect Trump to surround himself with ONLY LOYALISTS.  That is why I don't expect him to get rid of Devos, Ben Carson, and maybe even Kelly.

The 25th amendment may be in the back of his head.  I don't expect that it will come into play....but at this point, Traitor Don needs to KNOW that he won't be "taken out from the inside."  So he is likely to put up with the continued ineptness of anyone in his cabinet as long as they are loyal to him.



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« Reply #3818 on: March 13, 2018, 07:03:05 PM »
Arnold pretty much gives the Trump administration a F**K YOU with this suit...

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/schwarzenegger-planning-to-sue-oil-companies-for-knowingly-killing-people-all-over-the-world%E2%80%99/ar-BBK7Fxl?ocid=sf

And Rex is wishing he didn't get fired....because now he likely won't be pardoned for his part in lying to the world about global warming when he was with Exxon....

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« Reply #3819 on: March 13, 2018, 07:16:28 PM »
Yep.  This should really have us all quaking in our boots.

80% of evangelicals voted for Trump, now it is payback time for Trump/Pence to give Armageddon a nudge by confronting Iran:

Title: "Postcards From Armageddon: Trump-touting Tourists Come Out in Droves to See the End of the World"

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/travel/.premium-at-armageddon-some-topics-are-best-avoided-around-jews-1.5791569

Extract:
•   Armageddon? Bring it on: The evangelical force behind Trump's Jerusalem speech
•   Lucky the Jews didn’t understand what Mike Pence was really saying
•   Let the left revile 'Preacher Pence'. The VP showed what sincere evangelical love for Israel looks like



I have to agree with this. For me, this is a clear political move. Don't forget that November is approaching and over 80% of evangelicals (his base) and other strong conservatives voted for Trump, and we know what they think about "Obama's Iran deal". Now that Kim has "softened" and Jerusalem hype has gone down, you also have to get votes on Iran issue,(you always have gains and losses depending what is "trending") and Rex has simply become a surplus. He is not of use anymore. On the other hand, Pompeo is completely in that camp. So if you're going to fire him, now would be/is the right moment. It will calm down (another firing) until the elections, and he has enough time to gain/strengthen votes/popularity among his and supporters of action to come by doing something about Iran. I mean, right now his own rating isn't Trump's biggest concern, he doesn't have elections until 2020. What he has to do is to get people to vote for Republicans in November, so he can keep control in both house and senate in order to get his policies approved. And knowing something about people and propaganda this is one of the best ways to do it, regardless if it is a good geopolitical decision or not (we can argue about that).  In few months he will start talking about the wall constantly (and many other things like border security, HRC, etc.) and make some actions before elections to gain votes for Republicans.
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« Reply #3820 on: March 13, 2018, 07:52:38 PM »
If you don't lie for Traitor Don..... your days (hours) are numbered:

Top Tillerson aide fired after contradicting White House account of firing

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/378133-top-tillerson-aide-fired-after-giving-contradicting-account-of-ouster

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« Reply #3821 on: March 13, 2018, 08:21:39 PM »

Let's assume that YOU[/b] are president of the United States.  And let's assume that you SAY you are worth 10 billion dollars.....but in actuality, you are almost flat broke, because you are swimming in debt, and the fair market value of your assets is DROPPING.  And the only way you make money is by laundering money (primarily for Russians and east Europeans....but you'll do it for ANYONE for the right price).

But let's say that one Bob Mueller is moving in for the kill on his FBI investigation.  And it looks like you will be found guilty of some rather nasty crimes....both federal AND state (which can't be pardoned).

Further assume that you really don't give a rats ass about the United States....or anyone else other than YOURSELF and some of your family (but not your wife:).

What do you do?  What are your options?

1)  Stay in office and try to fight the charges as hard as you can.  If you somehow win...then GREAT.  Otherwise....you go straight to jail, and do NOT collect $200.  And you, your 3 oldest kids, and many of your friends go to the slammer.

2)  Quit....and then go to jail.  And the same ending as in #1 above.

3)  There is at LEAST one more option I can think of.  Think....."out of the box."  Think "crazy" and almost unthinkable.  And think....how could I escape "all of this."  If I were the FBI and CIA..... I would be keeping a CLOSE EYE on Donnie on any and all trips to countries that we do NOT have an extradition agreement with.  There are AT LEAST 100 countries that the US does NOT have an extradition agreement with.

Now....I'm NOT saying that is going to happen, or that it is likely.  But just remember....we are dealing with a 71 year old sociopath....that doesn't want to spend the last 10 years of his life in jail.  ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE....even this.

       
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« Reply #3822 on: March 14, 2018, 06:40:03 PM »
There are only a handful of provisional and military votes yet to be counted, much less than the 627 vote lead that Lamb currently commands.  So per the attached tweet, by March 20th Conor Lamb will likely be declared the official winner:
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« Reply #3823 on: March 14, 2018, 09:06:27 PM »
Good to see Trump and the Deep State getting more intimate...

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« Reply #3824 on: March 14, 2018, 09:55:34 PM »
Good to see Trump and the Deep State getting more intimate...

German prosecutors are deciding whether, or not, to issue an arrest warrant for Gina Haspel (Trump's pick to be the new CIA Director).

Title: "Prosecutors Reviewing Request to Issue Arrest Warrant for Trump’s New CIA Director"

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/prosecutors-reviewing-request-to-issue-arrest-warrant-for-trumps-new-cia-director/

Extract: "Federal prosecutors in Munich are currently reviewing a request to issue an arrest warrant for Gina Haspel, President Donald Trump‘s recently named director of the Central Intelligence Agency (“CIA”)."
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« Reply #3825 on: March 15, 2018, 10:35:02 AM »
Wrrr the torture discussion....
There is actually a very narrow case for torture: While it fails as a generic method to extract truth, there is one exception: The Quran (or whatever) allows Islamic terrorists to speak after some torture, when they have exercised/suffered sufficient jihad. Then they are no longer regarded a traitor. Allah is most merciful...  :o

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« Reply #3826 on: March 15, 2018, 01:12:04 PM »
Larry Kudlow is replacing the outgoing Gary Cohen.  Kudlow is an unabashed supporter of Arthur Laffer, a supply sider to the max.  Kudlow is also a tv commentator on CNBC where he has shown his inability to forecast the housing downturn, as well as recessions.

Smooth talker....and rarely correct, he will fit in perfectly with Traitor Trump.  He will go on the networks and be a willing liar for Trumps tax cuts..... 

There are two other rumored moves that Trump would like to make.... and I am not sure that either one would pass through the senate confirmation process:  (1) Fire Jeff Sessions and move Scott Pruitt over from the EPA to head the justice department, (2) Fire McMaster and replace with John Bolton.... who happens to make neocons look like nuns....because Bolton is such a war hawk.

I don't think Donnie can make those two rumored moves.  He is trying to get rid of anyone who is not a loyalist to him (as any good dictator would do 😳).  I think there would be a few Republican senators that would balk at Pruitt as the AG.... as well as Bolton.

Donnie is really getting himself boxed in a corner.... because there aren't many people who want to work with him.... but he wants to get rid of anyone who speaks policy that is different from his.



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« Reply #3827 on: March 15, 2018, 02:25:16 PM »
Uh oh......

Donald Trump Jr. and Wife Vanessa May Be Getting a Divorce: Reports

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-jr-wife-vanessa-210659306.html

If I am Traitor Junior's wife..... and I'm thinking about pulling the plug, I would certainly pull the plug BEFORE my dad is kicked out of office....and BEFORE the whole "shooting match" (Trump Inc) goes up in flames and into bankruptcy.  And get as much as she can UPFRONT...because there won't be anything left a couple years down the road.

I wonder if Venessa might have a chat with Bob Mueller. ;)  You never know what she may have overheard or known.  I sure hope that she doesn't talk.  ;)

This is going to be a very bad year for Trump Inc.  And just on que..... it is starting to really fall apart in March.



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« Reply #3828 on: March 15, 2018, 02:35:17 PM »
If Traitor Trump (Senior) fires Sessions AND tries to replace him with Scott Pruitt.....we know we're getting much closer to the end.

Remember.... pressure kills.... and pressure on Traitor Trump is getting pretty fierce.  The only thing that he could do that would be worse than trying to replace Sessions with Pruitt....would be firing Sessions AND Rosenstein and anyone else who WOULDN'T fire Mueller.

Donnie is running out of bullets.

After losing the District 18 race in Pennsylvania this week..... Donnie has his spin machine on overdrive.  He KNOWS that if those in Congress and his donors think his coattails are useless or toxic.... then so is he, and it brings impeachment that much closer.

Tick...tick....tick.... Donnie.  You are running out of time..... and the truth NEVER GOES AWAY.  EVER.



   
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« Reply #3829 on: March 15, 2018, 02:47:25 PM »
Things in the stock market could get dicey over the coming months.

https://finance.yahoo.com/m/67626e66-41e2-3e6f-80eb-c3a62a3931a4/this-could-get-%27very-ugly%2C.html

You have GE that has been on a 13 month losing streak.  Boeing looks to be in rough waters.  IBM...ditto.  XOM has been on a downward slide since 2014.

The DOW stocks are always the FIRST to head south....but they are eventually joined by the rest.  Are we headed for a nasty bear market?  I don't know for sure....but things are NOT looking good.

If you look back using that famous educator..... "HISTORY"..... you will see that "tops" in the market are formed DURING GOOD NEWS (ie low unemployment, relatively low inflation, etc).  They are NOT formed during times of BAD NEWS (that is when BOTTOMS are formed).  Of course....the problem always is "how good is good"....and "how bad is bad."  Tough to tell for sure.

But the rides can be VERY DIFFERENT.  If you look back after the "tech bubble"....that was almost a 3 year bear market before hitting bottom.  If you look at the recession during the early '90's (I think George Bush senior was president)....the market only dropped for 3 MONTHS before hitting bottom.

So....for the Trump administration....IF (big IF) the market does continue to show weakness....that will NOT be good news for him.



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« Reply #3830 on: March 15, 2018, 04:35:00 PM »
The press, and the public, should start holding this sociopath accountable for this lying:

Title: "Trump Openly Brags about Lying to Justin Trudeau's Face"

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/03/trump-openly-brags-about-lying-to-justin-trudeaus-face
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« Reply #3831 on: March 15, 2018, 05:21:05 PM »
Trump and the GOP are planning to a death for Dodd-Frank by thousand cuts:

Title: "1,000 Cuts to Dodd-Frank: Senate Bill Part of Deregulation Wave"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-15/1-000-cuts-to-dodd-frank-senate-bill-part-of-deregulation-wave

Extract: "Since President Donald Trump signed an executive order last year seeking ways to ease banking rules prompted by the global financial crisis, much has happened -- but not much has been completed.

On Wednesday, the U.S. Senate took the most concrete step so far, passing a bill that provides considerable regulatory relief to smaller lenders such as regional and community banks. Yet, it’s probably the least worrisome for defenders of the 2010 Dodd-Frank Act, the bedrock law enacted to prevent a future financial meltdown.

Much is still afoot: Some rules have been delayed and others enforced with less vigor, while a series of Treasury reports recommended hundreds of additional tweaks. Here’s a summary of what’s happened so far, or may happen in the weeks, months and years ahead."
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« Reply #3832 on: March 15, 2018, 07:38:52 PM »
It looks like Mueller is looking into every crooked corner of Trump's business activities.  It will be interesting to eventually learn what indictments (if any) come out of this line of investigation:

Title: "Mueller Subpoenas Trump Organization, Demanding Documents About Russia"

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/15/us/politics/trump-organization-subpoena-mueller-russia.html

Extract: "The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, has subpoenaed the Trump Organization to turn over documents, including some related to Russia, according to two people briefed on the matter. The order is the first known time that the special counsel demanded documents directly related to President Trump’s businesses, bringing the investigation closer to the president.

The breadth of the subpoena was not clear, nor was it clear why Mr. Mueller issued it instead of simply asking for the documents from the company, an umbrella organization that oversees Mr. Trump’s business ventures. In the subpoena, delivered in recent weeks, Mr. Mueller ordered the Trump Organization to hand over all documents related to Russia and other topics he is investigating, the people said."
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« Reply #3833 on: March 15, 2018, 10:12:27 PM »
Larry Kudlow has been wrong for a very long time ...

http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2018/03/larry-kudlow-is-usually-wrong.html

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« Reply #3834 on: March 15, 2018, 10:17:12 PM »
"There is actually a very narrow case for torture: While it fails as a generic method to extract truth, there is one exception: The Quran (or whatever) allows Islamic terrorists to speak after some torture, when they have exercised/suffered sufficient jihad. Then they are no longer regarded a traitor. Allah is most merciful..."

Am i really seeing an argument for using torture on "Islamic terrorists " on this forum ?

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« Reply #3835 on: March 15, 2018, 10:40:28 PM »
The Quran also presumably allows completely innocent Islamic bystanders (along with terrorists) to make up any old shite, as long as you stop torturing them...

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/taibbi-trumps-cia-pick-and-a-silenced-torture-suspect-w517867

Though ideally not before they've concocted enough baloney for you to justify invading somewhere on the basis of these fictions.

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« Reply #3836 on: March 15, 2018, 11:50:02 PM »
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« Reply #3837 on: March 16, 2018, 03:33:42 PM »
Am i really seeing an argument for using torture on "Islamic terrorists " on this forum ?

Yes, sounds like another great argument Fox news hosts could use:



I guess torture is okay because St Obama decided in all his wisdom to not prosecute any of the lowlifes (like Haspel is) who engaged in it:

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« Reply #3838 on: March 16, 2018, 04:51:43 PM »
Guess who was on the board of directors at VOX....the medical technology firm who's CEO was guilty of a huge and expensive fraud?

James Mattis is linked to a massive corporate fraud and nobody wants to talk about it

If you guessed General Mattis....you can go to the head of the class:

https://www.vox.com/2018/3/16/17124288/mattis-theranos-board-trump

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But perhaps none of these elite supporters was as valuable as Mattis.

As the SEC complaint describes, a main element of the fraud was that “Holmes, and Balwani claimed that Theranos’ products were deployed by the U.S. Department of Defense on the battlefield in Afghanistan and on medevac helicopters and that the company would generate more than $100 million in revenue in 2014.”

Holmes, the SEC alleged, “knew, or was reckless in not knowing, that these statements were false and misleading.” It’s easy to see, however, why investors might be fooled about this because one of the company’s board members, Mattis, joined Theranos in 2013 immediately after retiring from a long career of military service that concluded with a stint leading CENTCOM, the US combatant command that is responsible for, among other things, Afghanistan.

Mattis (who, obviously, has no expertise in medical testing) pushed for the military to use Theranos technology, but it was never actually used because it didn’t work.

Nonetheless, as of December 2015, Mattis was still vouching for the company, telling the Washington Post that he “had quickly seen tremendous potential in the technologies Theranos develops, and I have the greatest respect for the company’s mission and integrity.”

The technology, it is now clear, had no potential, and the company had no integrity.

Nobody has properly questioned Mattis about this
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« Reply #3839 on: March 16, 2018, 06:19:14 PM »
Trump ups the ante: will tax EU cars if EU retaliates for steel,aluminum tariffs:
Ah..... you mean some of the diesel cars which criminally polluted american cities, children & long-term residents? 
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« Reply #3840 on: March 16, 2018, 07:46:59 PM »
Where is the outrage over Haspel's appointment? Where is the resistance? I just heard in the interview below that her praises are being sung by all kinds of former intelligence pundits, on what is considered liberal media no less:

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« Reply #3841 on: March 16, 2018, 07:50:30 PM »
Maybe the Democrat can capture what was once thought to be a secure Senate seat in Mississippi

Title : "Could a Mississippi Mud Fight Cost the GOP a Senate Seat?"

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/03/could-a-mississippi-mud-fight-cost-the-gop-a-senate-seat.html

Extract: "Chris McDaniel ended one U.S. Senate campaign this week and began another. The Mississippi state senator and establishment GOP gadfly announced on Wednesday that he will no longer challenge Republican Sen. Roger Wicker in a June primary and will instead run for the seat that will open up once the state’s other GOP senator, Thad Cochran, retires next month.

The news is simultaneously great for Wicker and pretty horrible for his Republican friends, both in the Washington establishment and back home in Mississippi. McDaniel presents a Roy Moore–shaped conundrum for Mitch McConnell and the rest of the GOP establishment. McDaniel is a proud Tea Party type, whose penchant for saying controversial things and alienating those in his own party could theoretically put the seat in play.

That was a concern when McDaniel was challenging Wicker, but it’s a much bigger one now that he’s the front-runner to replace Cochran. Because the race is a special election, there is no Republican primary, meaning the GOP won’t have a chance to knock off McDaniel before November. Running an establishment-friendly Republican against McDaniel could serve to divide the vote and boost a Democratic candidate. And, in another quirk, the special election won’t have party lines on the ballot, which could make all this tough to sort out for voters."
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Where is the outrage over Haspel's appointment? Where is the resistance?
They will confirm her if she promises to be even more hawkish. The same for every new Trump appointee.

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« Reply #3843 on: March 16, 2018, 08:49:15 PM »
@Neven/Zheega. There is significant and continuing outrage and resistance over Haspel. We might even be able to stop her. But Pompeo is a monster, owned by the Kochs, and one of the worst climate deniers. He wants to bomb Iran (probably enabled through their (his and Trump's) BFF Netanyahu).

sheesh, you guys need a reality check. We are desperate, but we're not hawks, most of us. They're cheating, lying, bullying, jailing, shooting. We need to win to get some reasonable people in power. We're working on it. The kids are all right, and most women as well. We're gathering steam. Yes, it's horrible, but please stop blaming the majority, who have been cheated out of a voice. Even with the vote cheating, it's likely we'll get a voice to resist these horrors again by next January (when November elected take office). If we don't blow up before then.

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« Reply #3844 on: March 16, 2018, 09:32:49 PM »
....it's likely we'll get a voice to resist these horrors again by next January (when November elected take office). If we don't blow up before then.
  Meanwhile, "don'T rump" is disassembling the gov't as fast as he unilaterally can. As far as blowing up, you must live in Hawaii or the west coast where N.Korean nukes can hit. "don'T rump" don' care 'bout west coast.

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« Reply #3845 on: March 16, 2018, 09:37:47 PM »
Jee.... Ah missed da vote fer pressi-dent. I coulda doubled da vote fer "don'T rump".....ifn ah had miss cast my vote. Maybe the one voting for "don'T rump" miss cast their vote, too.

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« Reply #3846 on: March 16, 2018, 10:54:51 PM »
The truth hurts:
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« Reply #3847 on: March 17, 2018, 04:42:12 AM »
Treasonous Trump continues to move towards the firing of Mueller.  If Sessions hadn't fired McCabe tonight, Donnie likely would have fired Sessions this weekend.

Trump will fire Rosenstein and find someone to fire Mueller.  It is coming... Days?  Weeks?  Months?  I don't know.  Make no mistake.... it's coming.

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« Reply #3848 on: March 17, 2018, 07:27:05 AM »
sheesh, you guys need a reality check. We are desperate, but we're not hawks, most of us. They're cheating, lying, bullying, jailing, shooting. We need to win to get some reasonable people in power. We're working on it. The kids are all right, and most women as well. We're gathering steam. Yes, it's horrible, but please stop blaming the majority, who have been cheated out of a voice. Even with the vote cheating, it's likely we'll get a voice to resist these horrors again by next January (when November elected take office). If we don't blow up before then.

Thank you Susan.
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Let's not waste either.

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« Reply #3849 on: March 17, 2018, 11:32:33 AM »
No, Neven believes that it is important to take a step back and think about how you do things, instead of panicking and pushing the wrong buttons again. There are opportunities that can be seized to change the system, which takes precedence over simply fighting Trump/Putin/GOP no matter how, no matter what. Neven also doesn't believe that violence and pushing for war can accomplish anything, except for more violence and war.
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