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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #5850 on: January 13, 2020, 11:18:26 PM »
I believe that the US publicly apologised for having mislabeled hideouts as "hospitals".
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« Reply #5851 on: January 14, 2020, 06:46:58 AM »
I believe that the US publicly apologised for having mislabeled hideouts as "hospitals".
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I'm sure you "believe" that, but that does not make it so.

Here in the world where we have references to our claims, the Russians have been bombing hundreds of hospitals, schools and mosques in Syria (as a war strategy), and lied about it verifiably and consistently, ever since they came to help Assad in 2015.

This is well documented on the Wiki page for it, with links to many reports from organizations like the ICRC (Red Cross) and MSF (Doctors Without Borders) and the UN. Russia even bombed hospitals that the UN had given them coordinates to as being health facilities, and suppressed UN investigations into these war crimes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian%E2%80%93Syrian_hospital_bombing_campaign

The NYT article is another report about these hospital bombings by the Russian Air Force, but this time with an extraordinary amount of evidence presented. Just read the report and listen to the Russian pilots before and after they strike their target and be amazed as to how detailed the NYT has researched this issue :
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/world/middleeast/russia-bombing-syrian-hospitals.html

There is a LOT more I'd like to say about Russia's war crimes in Syria, and the denial of them by some members of this forum, but I suggest we move that discussion to the "Russia" thread.

Back on topic for this thread :

Trump's threats of war crimes (strikes against Iranian cultural sites) and war-mongering (threatening FAST and HARD retaliations against Iran) is having real deadly consequences as Iran military, on critical alert, mistakenly shot down a civilian airliner.

<snip, don't go off-topic after saying 'back on topic', and take it to the Syria thread. While at it you might want to discuss the OPCW whistleblower scandal, but probably not; N.>
« Last Edit: January 14, 2020, 08:57:37 PM by Neven »
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« Reply #5852 on: January 15, 2020, 07:57:38 AM »
Hunter on deck:

"Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) says Republicans could subpoena Hunter Biden to testify about his business dealings with a Ukrainian gas company if Democrats insist on having witnesses"

"Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) on Monday night said he will force a vote on subpoenaing Hunter Biden if Democrats insist on hearing from senior administration officials "

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/478210-mcconnell-opens-door-for-hunter-biden-testimony-at-trump-trial

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« Reply #5853 on: January 15, 2020, 10:47:55 PM »
Tonight on the Rachel Maddow show: Lev Parnas himself!

(If you don't have that cable TV stuff, try this: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html )

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« Reply #5854 on: January 16, 2020, 08:35:47 AM »
One thing i hadn't thought of is that if the republicans subpoena Joe Biden, he will lose road time as well.

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« Reply #5855 on: January 17, 2020, 07:26:09 AM »
The FBI arrested three members of a neo-Nazi hate group who had weapons and discussed traveling to a pro-gun rally on Monday in Richmond, Virginia, in anticipation of a “possible race war.” The NRA has yet to disavow the rally.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/16/us/politics/fbi-arrest-virginia-gun-rally.html

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« Reply #5856 on: January 17, 2020, 04:50:49 PM »
What does that have to do with the topic at hand?
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« Reply #5857 on: January 17, 2020, 05:06:07 PM »
NAZIs feel entitled to do NAZI things because the president is a NAZI also and thinks 'NAZIs are fine people'.

I think it's this what Rob means.
“I’m an introvert. I’m just different that’s all. I’m so sorry. I don’t have a gun. I don’t do that stuff... All I was trying to do was to become better. I’ll do it... You all are phenomenal. You are beautiful. And I love you. Try to forgive me. I’m sorry.”

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« Reply #5858 on: January 17, 2020, 05:10:30 PM »
Oh well, in that case, all we have to do, is get rid of that nasty nazi president, and leave the system just as is, and all will be wonderful again.
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« Reply #5859 on: January 17, 2020, 06:08:05 PM »
I certainly never implied that, and i think Rob didn't either, Neven.

You know that i want the system to be crushed just as badly as you.
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« Reply #5860 on: January 20, 2020, 04:10:02 PM »
Comment not needed....
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« Reply #5861 on: January 29, 2020, 01:10:16 PM »
“I’m an introvert. I’m just different that’s all. I’m so sorry. I don’t have a gun. I don’t do that stuff... All I was trying to do was to become better. I’ll do it... You all are phenomenal. You are beautiful. And I love you. Try to forgive me. I’m sorry.”

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« Reply #5862 on: January 29, 2020, 01:32:48 PM »
The Republicans are in a bad spot.  I always said they would have to make choice of either throwing Trump overboard, or suffering retribution come election time.  I thought (mistakenly) that enough of them would choose to throw him out.  So far, I am wrong on that count.

But if the Republicans choose to keep the rotten head, they may very well end up losing BOTH the Senate AND the administration.

There is a LOT of “rotten wood” on the Republican side that has to go.  Some on the Dem side as well, but not NEARLY the amount of corrupt wood that the “Lobbyist Party” (R’s) have.

We COULD have an election where Lindsay Graham, Mitch McConnell, AND Trump lose.

There is SO MUCH MORE that can come out in coming weeks and months ...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/parnas-lawyer-giuliani-delivered-graham-092514589.html
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« Reply #5863 on: January 29, 2020, 02:07:55 PM »
Congrats on 3333 posts, Buddy. :)
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« Reply #5864 on: January 29, 2020, 03:05:35 PM »
Damn .... I better buy a lottery ticket!  :)
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« Reply #5865 on: January 30, 2020, 05:40:23 AM »
I'm not a regular visitor to the "Trump" section of the ASIF. No doubt Neven will correct me if this is the wrong place for the news I bring, or it's already been mentioned elsewhere?

I read "The Fifth Risk" by Michael Lewis when it first became available in paperback. Now a Vox article by Sean Illing expands on one of the points Michael made:

“Flood the zone with shit”: How misinformation overwhelmed our democracy

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The core challenge we’re facing today is information saturation and a hackable media system. If you follow politics at all, you know how exhausting the environment is. The sheer volume of content, the dizzying number of narratives and counternarratives, and the pace of the news cycle are too much for anyone to process.

One response to this situation is to walk away and tune everything out. After all, it takes real effort to comb through the bullshit, and most people have busy lives and limited bandwidth. Another reaction is to retreat into tribal allegiances. There’s Team Liberal and Team Conservative, and pretty much everyone knows which side they’re on. So you stick to the places that feed you the information you most want to hear.....

We’re in an age of manufactured nihilism.

The issue for many people isn’t exactly a denial of truth as such. It’s more a growing weariness over the process of finding the truth at all. And that weariness leads more and more people to abandon the idea that the truth is knowable.

I call this “manufactured” because it’s the consequence of a deliberate strategy. It was distilled almost perfectly by Steve Bannon, the former head of Breitbart News and chief strategist for Donald Trump. “The Democrats don’t matter,” Bannon reportedly said in 2018. “The real opposition is the media. And the way to deal with them is to flood the zone with shit.”

Meanwhile back in the "climate change" zone, the "shit flooding" continues as per usual. Archived from the GWPF:

Thwaites Glacier: Why Did The BBC Fail To Mention The Volcanoes Underneath?

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For more balanced coverage of the International Thwaites Glacier Collaboration please see the Arctic Sea Ice Forum:

https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1760.msg246751.html#msg246751

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« Reply #5866 on: January 30, 2020, 06:17:07 AM »
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One response to this situation is to walk away and tune everything out. After all, it takes real effort to comb through the bullshit, and most people have busy lives and limited bandwidth. Another reaction is to retreat into tribal allegiances.[...]
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Below some material on Truth Decay from RAND and from Yuval Harari.

First response: Know thyself. Recognize when it is your gut, not evidence based rationality that does the thinking.

Truth Decay is an old phenomenon. Nothing new. The difference today is that we can google. Look for the facts first. If it takes too long to get to the bottom, just forget about it and dont waste more time and neurons.





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« Reply #5867 on: January 30, 2020, 09:53:31 AM »
Funny!

Trump never managed to build 'a wall', but the new segment he actually did was just blown over by high winds. Mexican trees prevented it from tipping over.

If you are into symbolism, this must be a special event for you. :D

Link >> https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1222717360865456133
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« Reply #5868 on: January 30, 2020, 12:33:49 PM »
Out of the Loop?

What is going on with the search term "untreated syphilis" coming up with Donald Trump's picture?

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Syphilis, when untreated, can eventually spread to the nervous system. This can cause significant brain damage, and can occur years after the initial infection, with no other symptoms present. It is referred to as late or tertiary infection syphilis. Donald Trump's behaviour is widely considered to be "bizarre" at best, and demonstrative of brain damage or declining neurological function at worst. Due to this, many people have speculated on the cause of his cognitive decline, and a long-running theory is that he had syphilis, was not treated, and it is now causing brain damage. Other symptoms of late state syphilis include damage to the eyes causing people to squint, patchy hair loss, irritability, and inability to concentrate, which correlate with observations of Trump. An alternative theory is that Trump's issues also correlate with symptoms of dementia and aging in general. The syphilis theory has not been confirmed, though, and remains simply a theory as to the cause of his mental state, not any accurate diagnosis.



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« Reply #5869 on: January 30, 2020, 12:57:03 PM »
FACTS are one of Donald Trump’s and FOX News’ worst enemies.  The other ... is PUBLICLY DISPLAYING those facts.

That is why something so obvious as “watching witnesses testify on national TV” is such a big deal.

There are people who don’t bother, either because of time constraints or they hate all the hubbub, to follow this stuff.  But when it makes the National News of the non cable channels, it has a much broader reach, especially to important INDEPENDENTS.

FACTS never go away.  But people like Rick Scott, Donald Trump, Allen Dershowitz and others will spend a LOT of time and money to keep those facts hidden or muddied.
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« Reply #5870 on: January 30, 2020, 07:40:40 PM »
Someone compiled a list that should be here as well. Beware, it's not at all complete though.

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Because there are so many other things that people don’t know what to focus on.
How do you pick when he’s a lying, unqualified, draft dodging, gold star family disrespecting, POW attacking, US General insulting, racist, sexist, vulgar, confirmed sexual assaulting, trillion dollars to the rich tax cutting, own daughter creeping, wife cheating with a pornstar after birth of son and paying for campaign-finance-violating silencing, $413 million dollar inheritance getting, teen pageant dressing room invading, baby and mother separating, breast feeding mother shaming, fat-shaming while being fat, 17 women accusing him of sexual assaulting, accusers are not attractive enough for him to assault implying, university student defrauding, bankrupt casino causing, kids cancer charity stealing, taped detailed accusation of rape of a minor having, wife-beating, popular vote losing, anti-vaxxing, Christianity-faking, publicist impersonating, tax dodging, friends’ wives pursuing, impeached, foreign aid bribing, 1/3 of the presidency golf playing, free press assaulting, Hannity coordinating, Cambridge Analytica using, Ivanka is a “piece of ass” approving, loan application asset inflating, historically low polling, college achievement faking, unqualified judge appointing, unqualified cabinet member appointing, 9/11 victims funds immorally accepting, Christianity Today verbal-thrashing receiving, chronically-ill infant nephew inheritance cutting then medical coverage canceling, foreign influence on our election welcoming, tax release avoiding, birther conspiracy spreading, Ukraine ambassador targeting, Russian money taking, Kurdish ally abandoning, soldier brain injury downplaying, full morning “executive time” taking, Epstein befriending, Putin bowing, Kim Jong Un praising, North Korean general saluting, US intelligence denying, tallest building in lower Manhattan after 9/11 boasting, congress obstructing, nuclear non-proliferation deal ending, Justice obstructing, unqualified daughter and son-in-law appointing, healthcare cut targeting, pedophile candidate supporting, trump tower Moscow denying, mail-bomber inspiring, 4 out of top 5 largest protests in US history causing, green energy stifling, clean water regulation destroying, healthy school lunch ending, climate change denying, congressional and judicial branch attacking, economy does better under democrats saying, Goldman Sachs appointing, food stamp removing, emissions standards lowering, press conference avoiding, emoluments clause breaking, longest govt shutdown record holding, Saudi Arabia nuclear tech selling, golf cheating, time magazine cover faking, El Paso mass shooter inspiring, paying legal bills for roughing up protestors promising, killed soldier “knew what he signed up for” saying, pardon abusing, scumbag?
Sources:
* lying, https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/16/president-trump-has-made-false-or-misleading-claims-over-days/
* unqualified, https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/11/13587532/donald-trump-no-experience
* draft dodging, https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/12/27/trump-vietnam-war-bone-spur-diagnosis/2420475002/
* gold star family disrespecting, https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/31/us/politics/donald-trump-khizr-khan-wife-ghazala.html
* POW attacking, https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/07/18/424169549/trump-lashes-out-at-mccain-i-like-people-who-werent-captured
* US General insulting, https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/01/17/trump-blasted-top-military-generals-as-a-bunch-of-dopes-and-babies-according-to-new-book/
* racist, https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/trump-racism-comments/588067/
* sexist, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50563106
* vulgar, https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/donald-trump-tape-transcript.html
* confirmed sexual assaulting, https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/donald-trump-tape-transcript.html
* trillion dollars to the rich tax cutting, https://budget.house.gov/publications/publication/gop-tax-law-showers-benefits-wealthy-and-large-corporations-while
* own daughter creeping, https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-creepiest-most-unsettling-comments-a-roundup-a7353876.html
* wife cheating with a pornstar after birth of son and paying for campaign-finance-violating silencing, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43334326
* $413 million dollar inheritance getting, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2018/10/04/the-new-york-times-revealed-how-fred-trump-funneled-413-million-to-his-son-donald-will-that-change-american-opinion/
* teen pageant dressing room invading, https://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/article/2016/oct/18/allegations-about-donald-trump-and-miss-teen-usa-c/
* baby and mother separating, https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/14/the-weekly/trump-immigration-border-separation-family.html
* breast feeding mother shaming, https://www.parents.com/baby/all-about-babies/fighting-words-donald-trump-called-a-breastfeeding-mom-disgusting/
* fat-shaming while being fat, http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/08/trump-fat-shames-own-supporter-frank-dawson-new-hampshire-rally.html
* 17 women accusing him of sexual assaulting, https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/list-trumps-accusers-allegations-sexual-misconduct/story?id=51956410
* accusers are not attractive enough for him to assault implying, https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/10/donald-trump-insults-accusers-ugly
* university student defrauding, https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-finalizes-25-million-settlement-victims-donald-trumps/story?id=54347237
* bankrupt casino causing, https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/live-updates/general-election/real-time-fact-checking-and-analysis-of-the-first-presidential-debate/fact-check-has-trump-declared-bankruptcy-four-or-six-times/
* kids cancer charity stealing, https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2019/12/23/best-stories-of-the-decade-how-donald-trump-shifted-kids-cancer-charity-money-into-his-business/
* taped detailed accusation of rape of a minor having, https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/
* wife-beating, https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/24/documenting-trumps-abuse-of-women
* popular vote losing, https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-lost-popular-vote-hillary-clinton-us-election-president-history-a7470116.html
* anti-vaxxing, https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/449525268529815552?lang=en
* Christianity-faking, https://www.kentucky.com/opinion/op-ed/article216494035.html
* publicist impersonating, https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/05/13/donald-trump-people-magazine-washington/84333614/
* tax dodging, https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/2/17929774/donald-trump-tax-evasion-fred-trump-new-york-times
* friends’ wives pursuing, https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-sex-friends-wives-are-book-claims-true-michael-wolff-fire-fury-white-house-bannon-a8142011.html
* impeached, https://time.com/5552679/impeached-presidents/
* foreign aid bribing, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49800181
* 1/3 of the presidency golf playing, https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/30/nearly-third-days-hes-been-president-trumps-visited-trump-branded-property/
* free press assaulting, https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/29/18037894/donald-trump-twitter-media-enemy-pittsburgh
* Hannity coordinating, https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/emmaloop/sean-hannity-trump-allies-mueller-memos-fox-news
* Cambridge Analytica using, https://www.wired.com/story/what-did-cambridge-analytica-really-do-for-trumps-campaign/
* Ivanka is a “piece of ass” approving, https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/trump-ivanka-piece-of-ass-howard-stern-229376
* loan application asset inflating, https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/27/business/donald-trump-buffalo-bills-deutsche-bank.html
* historically low polling, https://theweek.com/speedreads/890683/trumps-approval-rating-pace-lowest-ever-among-independents-gallup-poll-shows
* college achievement faking, https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherrim/2019/02/28/heres-why-donald-trump-doesnt-want-anyone-to-know-his-grades-or-sat-scores/
* unqualified judge appointing, https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/confirmation-expected-for-another-unqualified-trump-judge-pick
* unqualified cabinet member appointing, https://www.latimes.com/local/education/la-me-eli-broad-opposes-devos-20170201-story.html
* 9/11 victims funds immorally accepting, https://fortune.com/2016/05/29/trump-911-grant/
* Christianity Today verbal-thrashing receiving, https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/december-web-only/trump-should-be-removed-from-office.html
* chronically-ill infant nephew inheritance-cutting then medical coverage canceling, https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/donald-trumps-cruel-streak/501554/

* foreign influence on our election welcoming, https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/06/trump-welcomes-foreign-interference-2020-campaign/591589/
* tax release avoiding, https://www.post-gazette.com/news/politics-nation/2019/05/06/donald-trump-taxes-presidential-tax-law-ways-means-committee/stories/201904250114
* birther conspiracy spreading, https://mobile.twitter.com/i/moments/776795610817007616?lang=en
* Ukraine ambassador targeting, https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lev-parnas-recording-trump-is-heard-saying-take-her-out-about-ukrainian-ambassador-marie-yovanovitch-2020-01-25/
* Russian money taking, https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2019/12/13/why-trumps-tax-returns-are-so-important-this-week-in-impeachment/
* Kurdish ally abandoning, https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/former-u-s-officials-criticize-trump-s-decision-abandon-kurds-n1084156
* soldier brain injury downplaying, https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/01/26/vfw-commander-calls-trump-apologize-headaches-remark-about-injured-troops.html
* full morning “executive time” taking, https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/2/4/18210345/trump-executive-time-axios-private-schedule-leak
* Epstein befriending, https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/jeffrey-epstein-had-14-phone-numbers-connected-to-trump-in-his-contacts/ar-AAE8IIi
* Putin bowing, https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2019/12/20/trumps-alarming-deference-to-putin-and-lindsay-grahams-weird-deference-to-trump-this-week-in-impeachment/
* Kim Jong Un praising, https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/409245-trumps-comments-on-falling-in-love-with-kim-jong-un-are-shocking-and-appalling
* North Korean general saluting, https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/06/14/trumps-salute-north-korean-general-video/701740002/
* US intelligence denying, https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/30/us/politics/trump-intelligence-agencies.html
* tallest building in lower Manhattan after 9/11 boasting, https://www.indy100.com/article/trump-911-anniversary-trump-tower-height-video-interview-bragging-9100271
* congress obstructing, https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/trump-impeached-house-abuse-power-n1104196
* nuclear non-proliferation deal ending, https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-calls-nuclear-deal-bashing-misinformation/story?id=68148374
* Justice obstructing, https://qz.com/1670783/all-the-evidence-of-obstruction-of-justice-in-muellers-report/
* unqualified daughter and son-in-law appointing, https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/01/donald-trump-ivanka-g20-north-korea-nepotism
* healthcare cut targeting, https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/trump-proposes-big-cuts-to-health-programs-for-poor-elderly-and-disabled/2019/03/11/55e42a56-440c-11e9-aaf8-4512a6fe3439_story.html
* pedophile candidate supporting, https://www.npr.org/2017/12/04/568274917/removing-any-qualifications-trump-endorses-roy-moore
* trump tower Moscow denying, https://qz.com/1670783/all-the-evidence-of-obstruction-of-justice-in-muellers-report/
* mail-bomber inspiring, https://abcnews.go.com/US/mail-bomber-cesar-sayoc-obsessed-trump-fox-news/story?id=64500598
* 4 out of top 5 largest protests in US history causing, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_protests_in_the_United_States_by_size
* green energy stifling, https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-solar-wind-power-criticism-scientists-trump-dangerous-evil-1371108
* clean water regulation destroying, https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/trump-administration-set-to-remove-protections-against-water-pollution
* healthy school lunch ending, https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/17/us/politics/michelle-obama-school-nutrition-trump.html
* climate change denying, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51213003
* congressional and judicial branch attacking, https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/27/politics/judge-curiel-trump-border-wall/index.html
* economy does better under democrats saying, https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2016/11/07/trump-is-right-about-one-thing-the-economy-does-better-under-the-democrats/
* Goldman Sachs appointing, https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/324027-trump-names-another-goldman-sachs-exec-to-senior-administration-role
* food stamp removing, https://www.cbsnews.com/news/14-states-sue-to-block-the-trump-administrations-food-stamp-cuts/
* emissions standards lowering, https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/climate/trump-environment-rollbacks.html
* press conference avoiding, https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/trump-says-he-instructed-sarah-sanders-to-stop-doing-white-house-press-briefings
* emoluments clause breaking, https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/21/donald-trump-mocks-constitution-emoluments-clause-phony/4055162002/
* longest govt shutdown record holding, https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/11/government-shutdown-breaks-record-for-longest-ever-amid-border-wall-fight.html
* Saudi Arabia nuclear tech selling, https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-administration-approved-nuclear-deals-saudi-arabia-khashoggi/story?id=63492793
* golf cheating, https://www.golf.com/news/features/2019/04/02/how-why-president-trump-cheats-golf-playing-tiger-woods/
* time magazine cover faking, https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/time-asks-donald-trump-s-golf-clubs-remove-phony-magazine-n777546
* El Paso mass shooter inspiring, https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/04/us/politics/trump-mass-shootings.html
* paying legal bills for roughing up protestors promising, https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/back-trump-comments-perceived-encouraging-violence/story?id=48415766
* killed soldier “knew what he signed up for” saying, https://www.ajc.com/news/national/sgt-david-johnson-widow-trump-said-knew-what-signed-for/fY9xBSJBda6usczKrbH5RL/
* pardon abusing, https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/11/29/18117745/trump-manafort-pardon-dangle-abuse-power
* scumbag, https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump
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« Reply #5871 on: January 31, 2020, 12:24:53 PM »
Truth Decay is an old phenomenon.

Thanks for the video from Davos Martin. I'm sure it will be extremely interesting when I find the time to watch it the way through.

The "moderator" doesn't seem suitably sharp in the brief bit I've watched though. Perhaps she'd had a bit too much gluhwein the night before?
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« Reply #5872 on: January 31, 2020, 11:41:25 PM »
America's Finest News Source: fighting authoritarianism is a lot of work

"we can state with a high degree of certainty that meaningfully resisting the erosion of equality and personal freedoms would probably be super exhausting"

"The majority of American citizens are very sleepy and want to get back to their beds as soon as possible"

"the report concluded it would be so much easier to simply march in unthinking lockstep to an all-powerful ruler. "

https://politics.theonion.com/report-fighting-rising-tide-of-authoritarianism-sounds-1841390886

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« Reply #5873 on: February 01, 2020, 07:36:56 AM »


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« Reply #5874 on: February 02, 2020, 01:33:15 AM »
“There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.” ― Leonardo da Vinci

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« Reply #5875 on: February 02, 2020, 08:37:06 AM »
It looks like Senate Republicans do not want justice to be served by preventing witnesses on select hearings. Too bad to see a nuclear nation descend to lawlessness.
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« Reply #5876 on: February 03, 2020, 05:33:30 AM »
America's Finest News Source: fighting authoritarianism is a lot of work

"we can state with a high degree of certainty that meaningfully resisting the erosion of equality and personal freedoms would probably be super exhausting"

"The majority of American citizens are very sleepy and want to get back to their beds as soon as possible"

"the report concluded it would be so much easier to simply march in unthinking lockstep to an all-powerful ruler. "

https://politics.theonion.com/report-fighting-rising-tide-of-authoritarianism-sounds-1841390886

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« Reply #5878 on: February 05, 2020, 03:41:36 AM »
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"the report concluded it would be so much easier to simply march in unthinking lockstep to an all-powerful ruler. "

https://politics.theonion.com/report-fighting-rising-tide-of-authoritarianism-sounds-1841390886

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Real news of Senate Republicans shouldn't be masqueraded as humor.
Actually it is general human psychology. When there's a big leader, the brains reduce critical thinking. (Should dig up some examples from experimantal psychology. - But it suffices to watch Mussolini or Trump speaking BS to the masses.)
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« Reply #5879 on: February 05, 2020, 06:30:04 AM »
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« Reply #5880 on: February 05, 2020, 06:39:12 AM »
Seriously, why was she there? Why was any democrat there?
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« Reply #5881 on: February 05, 2020, 06:49:52 AM »
The Donald makes Rush Limbaugh's jaw drop at SOTU, but a little girl yawns at the BS...

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« Reply #5882 on: February 05, 2020, 06:53:59 AM »
Seriously, why was she there?
To let the Donald not shake her hand.
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« Reply #5883 on: February 05, 2020, 06:56:35 AM »
Yeah, that's exactly what she does. Not doing things.
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« Reply #5884 on: February 05, 2020, 07:49:17 AM »
Wörd of the last day: Stanktuary

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« Reply #5885 on: February 05, 2020, 07:56:20 AM »
One of America’s most prominent racists just received the Presidential Medal of Freedom

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« Reply #5886 on: February 05, 2020, 10:51:13 AM »
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« Reply #5887 on: February 05, 2020, 12:51:11 PM »
The psychology of lying ... and repeating a lie has been known for a long time.  Hitler used it effectively.  Trump and his crime syndicate also use it effectively.

Part of the problem has been an inept press, and a press that started to call out lies WAY TOO LATE.

They also do a horrible job of asking questions.  The questions need to be asked in a manner like the NPR reporter asked Mike Pompeo. You have to be a bull dog. 

If you think this is ugly now .... give it a few months.  The one thing that I’m sure is that Donnie has NO BOTTOM.  NONE.  A sociopath like Trump will once again get out over the tips of his skis.  We will find out to what horrible lengths Republicans will go to.

Rand Paul has already shown he doesn’t care about the law.  Same with Lindsay Graham and Mitch McConnell.

Buckle up ..
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« Reply #5888 on: February 05, 2020, 01:08:44 PM »
You should see how many 'oh look, how respectless he danced to the national anthem' articles there are.

Not one article about the parallels to NAZI Germany though...

No article about his obvious mental decline...

US media is entertainment, not news or pieces of information.
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« Reply #5889 on: February 06, 2020, 11:08:41 AM »
After the impeachment trial :

In Private, Republicans Admit They Acquitted Trump Out of Fear

One journalist remarked, “How in the world can these senators walk around here upright when they have no backbone?”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/05/opinion/trump-senate-acquittal-impeachment.html
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« Reply #5890 on: February 07, 2020, 10:12:07 AM »
Kirk Douglas on Hitler:

"I was 16 when that man came to power in 1933.  For almost a decade before his rise he was laughed at ― not taken seriously.  He was seen as a buffoon who couldn’t possibly deceive an educated, civilized population with his nationalistic, hateful rhetoric"

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« Reply #5891 on: February 07, 2020, 12:53:01 PM »
Well, if this isn't the news of the decade, i don't know what could be. The President of the United States of America is now officially declared as bad for America. In fact, as bad as ISIS.

The FBI Just Put White Nationalists and Neo-Nazis on the Same Threat Level as ISIS

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« Reply #5892 on: February 07, 2020, 01:39:12 PM »
Well, if this isn't the news of the decade, i don't know what could be. The President of the United States of America is now officially declared as bad for America. In fact, as bad as ISIS.

The FBI Just Put White Nationalists and Neo-Nazis on the Same Threat Level as ISIS

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« Reply #5893 on: February 07, 2020, 01:52:30 PM »
Bigger than the US president being a literally national threat? A declared terrorist in the White House?

I really don't want to know anything about this decade then! ;)
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« Reply #5894 on: February 07, 2020, 02:52:27 PM »
Rob Decker:

One of the significant differences between Hitler and Trump .... is that Hitler didn’t have a media company that had been lying to its audience for 25 years BEFORE Hitler came to power.

Trump has the advantage of FOX viewers mindlessly believing whatever FOX says.

The US doesn’t have a BROAD educated populace.  At least 35% or so believe the trash advanced by FOX/Hannity/Carlson/etc.  They have already been brainwashed and waiting for someone they can worship.  That audience has no use for facts ... no use for science ... no use for economics.

But at least Hillary isn’t in office.  🤣🤣
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« Reply #5895 on: February 07, 2020, 03:22:05 PM »
One of the significant differences between Hitler and Trump .... is that Hitler didn’t have a media company that had been lying to its audience for 25 years BEFORE Hitler came to power.

Erm, Hitler was the first using the Radio as a propaganda machine. So you are right he didn't own the system he brainwashed with, but he did a huge amount of brainwashing nonetheless.

Just as FoxNews.
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« Reply #5896 on: February 07, 2020, 03:28:03 PM »
There wasn’t TV.  Yes ... Hitler CERTAINLY used brainwashing.  That wasn’t my point.  Imagine if he had 24 x 7 VISUAL brainwashing for the 25 years BEFORE he came to power.

Imagine how effective he could have been.

Now .... fast forward to the US and the lies spewed by FOX News over the last 30 years.

The “fields” (brains) have already been tilled (brainwashed) for him.  Trump has it easier in that respect than Hitler.
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« Reply #5897 on: February 07, 2020, 03:32:29 PM »
You have a point, Buddy.

May i throw Berlusconi into the debate? He owned most of the mainstream media in Italy and presto, he became president ...
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« Reply #5898 on: February 07, 2020, 03:48:01 PM »
If you ever get a chance to do any research/reading into “bias”, I encourage you to do so.  Creating bias is at the heart of advertising, political promotion, recruiting, etc.

It’s one of the reasons I keep saying that humans have got SUCH a long way to go before we EVER become an “advanced civilization.”

TV/media can create TREMENDOUS bias (in any direction).  That is why we humans have to keep looking for FACTS and TRUTH in our decision making process.  I see BAD decision making processes in business ALL THE TIME. 

Without good decisions, it’s hard to improve.  And without good FACTS, it’s hard to make good decisions. 🤷🏻‍♂️
FOX (RT) News....."The Trump Channel.....where truth and journalism are dead."

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #5899 on: February 07, 2020, 06:49:50 PM »
Every time trump tweets "America first" just remember where he got that slogan from...


[picture of KKK members holding an "America first" sign]
“I’m an introvert. I’m just different that’s all. I’m so sorry. I don’t have a gun. I don’t do that stuff... All I was trying to do was to become better. I’ll do it... You all are phenomenal. You are beautiful. And I love you. Try to forgive me. I’m sorry.”

Elijah McClain