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Re: The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
« Reply #900 on: March 11, 2019, 03:12:22 AM »
Lurk is always there offering a helping hand. :)

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Re: The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
« Reply #901 on: March 11, 2019, 03:50:50 AM »
   
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You have no evidence of who set the aid truck on fire and these photos indicate your guarimberos had a hand in it. pic.twitter.com/VsvMDo2XaS

    — Dan Cohen (@dancohen3000) February 24, 2019

    .@marcorubio’s lie debunked: This video shows an opposition protester throwing a Molotov cocktail at the aid truck on the Francisco de Paula Santander bridge connecting Venezuela and Colombia. pic.twitter.com/4IgTt2u4pJ

    — Dan Cohen (@dancohen3000) February 24, 2019

Those last two tweets – using video footage to debunk the lies spread by Marco Rubio, CNN and the U.S. Government – happen to be from a correspondent with RT America.

Please tell me: who was acting here as lying propagandists and agents of State TV, and who was acting like a journalist trying to understand and report the truth?

Specially I am asking Rob and Martin and Sterks for the answer to that question

I only it meant as a rhetorical question .. (but how would you know that ) .. I never expected an answer. Sorry about that :)
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Re: The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
« Reply #902 on: March 11, 2019, 09:52:58 AM »
   
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You have no evidence of who set the aid truck on fire and these photos indicate your guarimberos had a hand in it. pic.twitter.com/VsvMDo2XaS

    — Dan Cohen (@dancohen3000) February 24, 2019

    .@marcorubio’s lie debunked: This video shows an opposition protester throwing a Molotov cocktail at the aid truck on the Francisco de Paula Santander bridge connecting Venezuela and Colombia. pic.twitter.com/4IgTt2u4pJ

    — Dan Cohen (@dancohen3000) February 24, 2019

Those last two tweets – using video footage to debunk the lies spread by Marco Rubio, CNN and the U.S. Government – happen to be from a correspondent with RT America.

Please tell me: who was acting here as lying propagandists and agents of State TV, and who was acting like a journalist trying to understand and report the truth?

Specially I am asking Rob and Martin and Sterks for the answer to that question

Neven has just deleted my response to that question, as well as the OPCW response to the Syrian Douma chemical attack.
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Re: The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
« Reply #903 on: March 11, 2019, 09:58:08 AM »
It wasn't a response to the question, Rob, and you already posted that comment in the Venezuela thread.
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« Reply #904 on: March 11, 2019, 03:59:13 PM »
Some new news related to BDS, The Lobby, Israel and the uptick in hyperbolic smear accusations about 'anti-Semitism' on social media and 'politician' circles etc etc

Netanyahu reminds the world about the truth and reality as it really is

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Wonder Woman v Bibi? Gal Gadot comes to rescue of TV host berated by Israeli PM
Published time: 11 Mar, 2019

 Israeli Hollywood star Gal Gadot, best known for her role as Wonder Woman, has swooped in to defend a TV host who came under fire from Benjamin Netanyahu for suggesting Israel is not for Jews alone.

The movie star spoke out after the prime minister criticized Israeli television presenter Rotem Sela for expressing solidarity with Arab-Israelis and arguing that Israel is a country “for all its citizens.”

Netanyahu later issued a rebuke of Sela’s comments, stating that:

“Israel is not a state of all its citizens. According to the Nation-State Law that we passed, Israel is the nation-state of the Jewish people, and them alone.”

The prime minister’s assertion apparently didn’t sit well with Gadot, who shared her thoughts on the matter with her 28.3 million Instagram followers.

“Love thy neighbor as thyself,” Gadot wrote in Hebrew. “It’s not an issue of Right or Left, Jew or Arab, secular or religious. It’s an issue of dialogue, of dialogue for peace, for equality, for tolerance between one another.”

Gadot added that the “responsibility to grow hope and light for a better future for our children is on us. Rotem, my sister, you are an inspiration to us all.”

    Not a good idea to fight with #WonderWoman@netanyahu Gal Gadot supports TV presenter Rotem Sela: "Loving ur neighbor as ur self not a matter of right-left, Jewish-Arab, secular or religious, it is a matter of dialogue, of dialogue for peace, equality & tolerance for each other." pic.twitter.com/nkDwlpDfNN
    — Ruth Marks Eglash (@reglash) March 10, 2019

Her statement was applauded by like minded Israelis and Jewish activists.

“Israeli actresses Gal Gadot and Rotem Sela reminded Netanyahu that 20% of Israel’s population is Arab citizens who deserve respect and equality. And this is big news in Israel today. Imagine the potential if many leading actors, artists, academics etc. would consistently protest,” Israeli-American journalist Mairav Zonszein tweeted in response to the controversy.

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https://www.rt.com/news/453514-wonderwoman-netanyahu-gal-gadot-israel/
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« Reply #905 on: March 13, 2019, 06:40:39 AM »
 Defamed by media, Covington Catholic student sues CNN for $275 million
Published time: 13 Mar, 2019

https://www.rt.com/usa/453673-covington-sues-cnn-defamation/
"You assist an unjust administration most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. [...] A good person will resist an evil system with his whole soul. Disobedience of the laws of an evil state is therefore a duty."
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Re: The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
« Reply #906 on: March 13, 2019, 07:36:02 AM »
Some new news related to BDS, The Lobby, Israel and the uptick in hyperbolic smear accusations about 'anti-Semitism' on social media and 'politician' circles etc etc

Netanyahu reminds the world about the truth and reality as it really is

“Israel is not a state of all its citizens. According to the Nation-State Law that we passed, Israel is the nation-state of the Jewish people, and them alone.”

Why do I think about 'racism'  and 'apartheid' when I read these quotes?

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Re: The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
« Reply #907 on: March 14, 2019, 11:29:26 PM »
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« Reply #908 on: March 15, 2019, 02:41:42 AM »
 First Look Media, the parent company of the Intercept, announced it will shut access to the archive of documents leaked by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden to cut costs as it plans to layoff 4 percent of staff.

The news was met with outrage from high ranking staff member and filmmaker Laura Poitras, who went to Hong Kong to meet Snowden in 2013, just before the first revelations from his trove of National Security Agency documents were published. 

She said she was “sickened” by the decision to “eliminate the research team, which has been the beating heart of the newsroom since First Look Media was founded,” and slammed the company for making the decision without consulting her or other board members.

Poitras, Glenn Greenwald and Jeremy Scahill joined First Look Media at its founding, launching the Intercept in 2014 as a place to“aggressively report” on the Snowden documents. The company employed a research team to work on the huge trove of documents provided by Snowden.

    5 years ago I criticized Poitras-Greenwald deal to privatize Snowden NSA docs to a tech oligarch connected to the national security state—and was smeared as a CIA/COINTELPRO & worse. Now Poitras is mad that Omidyar is shutting down their fencing operation https://t.co/jYOUzGrQS5
    — Mark Ames (@MarkAmesExiled) March 14, 2019

    Potentially unpopular opinion: I think the Snowden archive would be better served elsewhere. Working with the Intercept was always ... challenging. There are a number of stories with important policy implications I'd like to do w/o those difficulties. https://t.co/o7RJsdchj5
    — emptywheel (@emptywheel) March 14, 2019

Five years later, it appears that First Look Media owner and Ebay founder Pierre Omidyar no longer wish to hold the trove of documents. CEO Michael Bloom sent an email to staff on Wednesday saying as other media outlets had “ceased reporting on it years ago,” it was going to “focus on other editorial priorities,” the Daily Beast reports.

This has been a source of contention for those who feel the entire cache of documents should have been released and published in a searchable format, like WikiLeaks’ releases.

Omidyar has been accused of sweeping in to fund the Snowden publishing in a bid to control what is released.

    On the Intercept and the Snowden archive: pic.twitter.com/clBWdkWlHl
    — Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) March 14, 2019

Greenwald said the decision was made because “the budget given to the Intercept by First Look media for 2019 forced editor-in-chief Betsy Reed, in consultation with the Intercept’s senior editors, to make extremely difficult decisions about how best to allocate these limited budgetary resources to maximise the impact and value to the Intercept’s journalism.”

Greenwald said the decision was also a by product of his own “intent to seek other partners – particularly academic institutions and research facilities to ensure continued publication of the remaining Snowden documents that are in the public interest.”

Greenwald received pushback on social media, with users claiming the information belongs in the public.

    You are a gatekeeper withholding information that is in the public interest.
    It shouldn’t matter which documents Snowden wanted selectively leaked and the fact that other organizations won’t publish means absolutely nothing.

    Publish in full!https://t.co/u87W0Kyu3Q
    — Free Thought (@FreeThought84) March 14, 2019

    You should have dumped the whole load into the public domain then you would have had millions of unpaid researchers combing through the stuff.
    — W Paul Blakey (@PblakeyW) March 14, 2019

    If the archives are not public they should be made as such.
    — Slo1 (@Bradypus9710) March 14, 2019

    Maybe those $350K to $500K salaries to the founders didn't help. And what's going to happen to the "Snowden Archive" and all those highly classified NSA documents you've been sitting on for 5 years? "Laura Poitras ‘Sickened’ By Layoffs at The Intercept." https://t.co/9AvqtjP8Pu
    — Tim Shorrock (@TimothyS) March 14, 2019

Reported by Russia Today
https://www.rt.com/news/453842-snowden-archive-shut-intercept/
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