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Re: Arctic Café
« Reply #850 on: February 14, 2017, 01:04:30 PM »
Today walked the short river path (~1.5mi.) and back home. This is though a somewhat controlled river so these two images aren't 'entirely natural'. Still some features occurring also in free-flowing rivers can be seen. Southfacing northbank has lost almost all snow and the meltwater has started to gnaw the northern shore of the riverside. As this has been quite dry start of the winter the water levels are low, this leads the ice to be lowest in the middle of the river and the meltwater gathers there on the other pic.
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« Reply #851 on: February 15, 2017, 02:31:47 PM »
In memory of the 84 men of the Ocean Ranger.
All hands were lost when the rig capsized
in a terrible winter storm 270km east of Newfoundland
35 years ago today,
15 February 1982.

http://www.heritage.nf.ca/articles/economy/ocean-ranger.php

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_Ranger

I remember it like yesterday. We were living in Twillingate on the NE coast of the Rock, and the wind that night howled like I'd never heard it before, a living screaming gale from the west. So odd, because our worst winds are nearly always nor-easterlies. We woke to find everything buried in huge drifts and the prospect of a day shovelling out, as everything was closed. But it was all put aside when we turned on the news. Everyone spent that terrible day glued to the TV in trembling disbelief. Newfoundland is tight-knit: the tragedy affected dozens of communities in the province. Everyone knew someone who had lost someone.

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« Reply #852 on: February 17, 2017, 08:57:58 AM »
The lake few messages and a couple of foehn and other warm days later starts to look like a dream plane for long-distance iceskating. Phone camera contrast at maximum.
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Re: Arctic Café
« Reply #853 on: February 17, 2017, 03:24:38 PM »
The lake few messages and a couple of foehn and other warm days later starts to look like a dream plane for long-distance iceskating. Phone camera contrast at maximum.

any coordinates or something that would hint to location? assuming it's somewhere in the US it's still nice to know what one is looking at a bit more precisely. not important, just a personal suggestion :-)
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« Reply #854 on: February 20, 2017, 08:33:16 PM »
These days I prefer the company of people who are unaware of or don't care enough to speak about AGW and what we are doing to this planet.
I don't have patience anymore when I hear someone mention these things again and again but do nothing to reduce their contribution.
Reducing our own contribution is so easy and opens so many new and exciting doors.
It's heartbreaking to me that the people living near me who currently contribute the most to destroying this planet are the ones who speak most often about it.

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« Reply #855 on: February 20, 2017, 08:46:06 PM »

OrganicSu, thank you for all what you and your family are doing. We appreciate.
My family of 4 live with < 1k eur per month. Anyway, we and you will find a way .. a human one.

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« Reply #856 on: February 20, 2017, 09:51:14 PM »
Couldn't resist, not because of the graph - we know that, because of the comment bellow.
It's my impression, many who knows about such graph are not aware of what that might bring.



"This is also an ecosystem EKG. That spike at the end is a major arrhythmia before the heart..."

ooo

"There are more of us than there are them" - who said that?

I am only one. Imagine others. 7B+ of such.

uuu ?

oioioi

Do you know that left glove turned inside-out fits on the right hand ?
Some Bell believers seems to have a problem with mathematical description of that fact, amazing.  (~1500 comments there, might take some time to load ;) )
More for math/academic types, which I'm not - at least not in view of society based on profit for some-. pdf here

Let's play, what else we can do?

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« Reply #857 on: February 20, 2017, 10:02:34 PM »
Couldn't resist, not because of the graph - we know that, because of the comment bellow.
It's my impression, many who knows about such graph are not aware of what that might bring.



"This is also an ecosystem EKG. That spike at the end is a major arrhythmia before the heart..."

ooo

"There are more of us than there are them" - who said that?

I am only one. Imagine others. 7B+ of such.

uuu ?

oioioi

Do you know that left glove turned inside-out fits on the right hand ?
Some Bell believers seems to have a problem with mathematical description of that fact, amazing.  (~1500 comments there, might take some time to load ;) )
More for math/academic types, which I'm not - at least not in view of society based on profit for some-. pdf here

Let's play, what else we can do?
. However the inside and outside of the glove are two different worlds not ever in contact with each other...
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« Reply #858 on: February 21, 2017, 12:04:57 AM »
Couldn't resist, not because of the graph - we know that, because of the comment bellow.
It's my impression, many who knows about such graph are not aware of what that might bring.



"This is also an ecosystem EKG. That spike at the end is a major arrhythmia before the heart..."

ooo

"There are more of us than there are them" - who said that?

I am only one. Imagine others. 7B+ of such.

uuu ?

oioioi

Do you know that left glove turned inside-out fits on the right hand ?
Some Bell believers seems to have a problem with mathematical description of that fact, amazing.  (~1500 comments there, might take some time to load ;) )
More for math/academic types, which I'm not - at least not in view of society based on profit for some-. pdf here

Let's play, what else we can do?
. However the inside and outside of the glove are two different worlds not ever in contact with each other...


. However the inside and outside of the glove are two different worlds not ever in contact with each other...

?? what? are you saying that just at a vo-doo distance might be a world ruled by a humans, not psychopaths?

If so, please, explain that to us in a dedicated thread, not here - in café, (ssssh: i'm a bit suspicuous about our current barteneder, might be a ruskie;) ).

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« Reply #859 on: February 21, 2017, 12:14:49 AM »
If so, please, explain that to us in a dedicated thread, not here - in café, (ssssh: i'm a bit suspicuous about our current barteneder, might be a ruskie;) ).

Comrades, I deny this allegation.

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« Reply #860 on: February 21, 2017, 12:22:07 AM »
If so, please, explain that to us in a dedicated thread, not here - in café, (ssssh: i'm a bit suspicuous about our current barteneder, might be a ruskie;) ).

Comrades, I deny this allegation.

Vodka is on the house.

and after that you are gonna need to take a lot of coffee, trust me -  i know what i'm saying (not sledge hammer). Thats on me. ;)
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« Reply #861 on: February 21, 2017, 12:48:00 AM »
Zazdarovje Tovarishch
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« Reply #862 on: February 23, 2017, 05:02:04 PM »
I like this millennial (a son I can only dream off, but I have daughters so who knows :) ), watch here.
I disagree with him on AGW/climate_change issue but I disagree with my self of (recalling) that age too. In short, he is much more aware of society/social situation than I was (or willing to be!) at that age.  And after all, all of it is about *their* future...
Isn't it ?

so, for God's sake, no wars please.
not more in my southyard, don't even think about starting some at my eastyard.
keep this planet inhabitable, not yust for me      

Mediterra, eh. my love. my past. my future.

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Re: Arctic Café
« Reply #863 on: February 23, 2017, 09:09:53 PM »
Ivica


Thanks for the above link. The "millennial" is a new voice to me, but he now has my ear.


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« Reply #864 on: February 24, 2017, 09:38:34 AM »
Continuing occasional visits to the lake shore...

"We live between clouds and water", or ice where applicable.
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« Reply #865 on: February 25, 2017, 04:41:42 PM »
Couldn't resist after reading above about the topology of a glove.

The sleeping bag, a poem.

On the outside grows the furside; on the inside grows the skinside.
So the furside is the outside, and the skinside is the inside.
One side likes the skinside inside, and the furside on the outside.
Others like the skinside outside, and the furside on the inside.
If you turn the skinside outside, thinking you will side with that side,
then the soft side, furside's inside, which, some argue, is the wrong side.
If you turn the furside outside, as, you say, it grows on that side,
then your outside's next the skinside, which for comfort's not the right side.
For the skinside is the cold side, and your outside's not your warm side.
And two cold sides side by side are not right-side when side to side!
If you decide to side with that side, turn the topside furside inside.
Then the cold side furside skinside's, beyond all question, inside out!

Herbert George Ponting, photographer on Scott's last expedition.

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« Reply #866 on: February 25, 2017, 05:34:17 PM »
Couldn't resist after reading above about the topology of a glove.

The sleeping bag, a poem.

On the outside grows the furside; on the inside grows the skinside.
So the furside is the outside, and the skinside is the inside.
One side likes the skinside inside, and the furside on the outside.
Others like the skinside outside, and the furside on the inside.
If you turn the skinside outside, thinking you will side with that side,
then the soft side, furside's inside, which, some argue, is the wrong side.
If you turn the furside outside, as, you say, it grows on that side,
then your outside's next the skinside, which for comfort's not the right side.
For the skinside is the cold side, and your outside's not your warm side.
And two cold sides side by side are not right-side when side to side!
If you decide to side with that side, turn the topside furside inside.
Then the cold side furside skinside's, beyond all question, inside out!

Herbert George Ponting, photographer on Scott's last expedition.

I'm off now to warp a space ship into a Klein bottle.

and one more quote, from H2G2 I believe  ;)

Arthur cleared his throat, and then did it again.

''Where,'' he said, ''did you ...?''

''Find a gin and tonic?'' said Ford brightly. ''I found a small lake
that  thought  it  was  a gin and tonic, and jumped in and out of
that. At least, I think it thought it was a gin and tonic.''

''I may,'' he added with a grin which  would  have  sent  sane  men
scampering into trees, ''have been imagining it.''

He waited for a reaction from Arthur, but Arthur knew better than that.

With left action expressed as right action and averaged, and with "." standing for inner product: E(a,b) = -a.b
 ?
If so, then our physical space might have some spinorial properties. Isn't it exciting?
(Even if math is ok, we still should wait for experimental confirmation - but those fellows/experimentors are clever ones, not like what we see with leaderships of our soc/academia)



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« Reply #867 on: March 02, 2017, 02:16:39 PM »
Riverside after the rains which melted most of the snow. The extra water helped the small rapid clear its downstream off ice which stack on top and under the still stuck ice.
More to the downstream, water flows on top of ice.
I couldn't continue the lowest path beside the river since i didn't want to fall in there again.
Weather prediction promises freezing temperatures once more, the annual count of people drowned in weak ice hereabouts isn't yet final.
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« Reply #868 on: March 03, 2017, 08:24:10 AM »
If anyone knows whether A-Team is healthy and OK I would dearly appreciate knowing it.

My life and how I live it have been affected by some of the words written by A-Team and Bruce. No-one else's contributions on this forum have had any noticeable or conscious effect. If A-Team punched me in the face and spat at me I would take it. Why? He has the abilities of a great teacher. A student takes what a teacher dispenses and hopefully, with time, comes to understand why.

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« Reply #869 on: March 03, 2017, 09:00:37 AM »
If anyone knows whether A-Team is healthy and OK I would dearly appreciate knowing it.

My life and how I live it have been affected by some of the words written by A-Team and Bruce. No-one else's contributions on this forum have had any noticeable or conscious effect. If A-Team punched me in the face and spat at me I would take it. Why? He has the abilities of a great teacher. A student takes what a teacher dispenses and hopefully, with time, comes to understand why.

It's of course possible s/he's on a position in which the Trumpistan goverment may give him/her a gag order to be silent. At least s/he complained of the lack of general public interest a few times before disappearance. As currently the 'public' is only the Trumpistan supporters in government circles i guess, this is no surprise.

Of course it's also possible s/he's been promoted 'with new set of responsibilities' or moved to another job description with 'access to classified data sources'.
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« Reply #870 on: March 06, 2017, 01:19:04 PM »
Next batch of images of ice disturbed by changing sea levels and ship wave action. The floes are c.15cm (6in.) thick but the refrozen stuff is only about 3-4cm (1.5in.) needles to say we didn't try to walk there.

The public beach (3rd image)has received a bit of additional damage.
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« Reply #871 on: March 06, 2017, 01:35:10 PM »
Working.
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« Reply #872 on: March 07, 2017, 01:50:39 AM »
Geese returned to Winnipeg, MB today.  Possibly call them French-Canadian Geese because these first few go to the Seine River.  Not that much earlier, I've seen them in colder and more deep snow on the 12th.  Peace out,

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« Reply #873 on: March 07, 2017, 11:01:47 PM »
Ice-related story: dramatic rescue of the crew of a sealing vessel out of Summerford,  Newfoundland, which ran into trouble in high winds and heavy ice-infested seas NE of St John's on Sunday. This was a first-time real-life rescue for the crew of the chopper, which was ably flown by one Captain Nicole Lively. :D

Check out the video in the story.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/summerford-skipper-safe-at-home-after-rescue-at-sea-1.4011611

This is the time of year when Newfoundlanders have traditionally taken to the ice around our shores to harvest seals---harp seals, which whelp on the pack ice that drifts down from the Arctic on the Labrador Current. The hunt is not what it used to be, in the wake of animal rights campaigning, and nowadays no whitecoats are taken, but sealing is still an important economic contributor to many Newfoundland households. The entire animal in used, the carcase and hide, in traditional Newfoundland culture.

And yes. I miss A-Team too.

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« Reply #874 on: March 08, 2017, 12:21:49 AM »
Couldn't resist after reading above about the topology of a glove.

The sleeping bag, a poem.

On the outside grows the furside; on the inside grows the skinside.
So the furside is the outside, and the skinside is the inside.
One side likes the skinside inside, and the furside on the outside.
Others like the skinside outside, and the furside on the inside.
If you turn the skinside outside, thinking you will side with that side,
then the soft side, furside's inside, which, some argue, is the wrong side.
If you turn the furside outside, as, you say, it grows on that side,
then your outside's next the skinside, which for comfort's not the right side.
For the skinside is the cold side, and your outside's not your warm side.
And two cold sides side by side are not right-side when side to side!
If you decide to side with that side, turn the topside furside inside.
Then the cold side furside skinside's, beyond all question, inside out!

Herbert George Ponting, photographer on Scott's last expedition.

I'm off now to warp a space ship into a Klein bottle.


*giggling*....and....cue "The Modern Hiawatha" by George A Strong:

 "He killed the noble Mudjokivis.
 Of the skin he made him mittens,
 Made them with the fur side inside,
 Made them with the skin side outside.
 He, to get the warm side inside,
 Put the inside skin side outside.
 He, to get the cold side outside,
 Put the warm side fur side inside.
 That's why he put the fur side inside,
 Why he put the skin side outside,
 Why he turned them inside outside."

http://wonderingminstrels.blogspot.ca/2000/09/modern-hiawatha-george-strong.html

 ;D


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« Reply #875 on: March 10, 2017, 11:12:43 PM »
Once upon a time ;) I became good with student from Panama, which, more or less, always had a guitar with him, he teached me "Guantanamera is a village", "guajira/quahira? means a girl". Girl from Guantanamo.

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« Reply #876 on: March 10, 2017, 11:28:56 PM »
I love that rendition of Thunderstruck!
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« Reply #877 on: March 12, 2017, 07:23:41 AM »
That's not melt pooling. I had to throw in a piece of wood to see if it splashes. Mind you, the shores had water, runoff from land.
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« Reply #878 on: March 17, 2017, 10:10:17 PM »
Think more about mediterra & its past... if you, (our blood) overseas, do not understand mediterra how are you going to understand others... neighbors as example...

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« Reply #879 on: March 19, 2017, 03:46:14 PM »
Those of you, like me, who think your days of getting up into the high latitudes may be over, or who have never been where it really is cold, might find this novel pretty damn good.

It is Miss Smilla's Feeling for Snow or Smilla's Sense of Snow (Danish: Frøken Smillas fornemmelse for sne). A 1992 novel by Danish author Peter Høeg. It was translated into English by Tiina Nunnally (credited as "F. David" in the British edition).

Read all about it at:-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Smilla's_Feeling_for_Snow

The author knows his subject.


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« Reply #880 on: March 20, 2017, 10:45:13 PM »
(Because a) I'd feel sheepish putting this in the main IJIS thread, b) I wanted somewhere to link to from the main blog, and c) this is a home for random offtopicness...)

The first in a likely short lived series, 'Arctic charts that resemble album covers', I give you my IJIS / Unknown Pleasures mashup.


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« Reply #881 on: March 20, 2017, 11:06:26 PM »
How about another series, 'Album covers that resemble Arctic maps':



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« Reply #882 on: March 26, 2017, 09:46:31 AM »
Mind you, these are of fresh ice melting in-place. If the river wasn't controlled that would have left for sea alredy. The lake instead is rather natural wrt ice. Tried to record sound of ice cracking but something went wrong. Nice to hear spring is progresaing, though. I haven't visited Baltic shore since the latest imges so don't know what's up in there.
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« Reply #883 on: March 26, 2017, 01:31:58 PM »
Mind you, these are of fresh ice melting in-place. If the river wasn't controlled that would have left for sea alredy. The lake instead is rather natural wrt ice. Tried to record sound of ice cracking but something went wrong. Nice to hear spring is progresaing, though. I haven't visited Baltic shore since the latest imges so don't know what's up in there.

I would love to hear those sounds. Will be much more noticeable at night..
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« Reply #884 on: March 26, 2017, 02:04:58 PM »
I would love to hear those sounds. Will be much more noticeable at night..
I think a pretty good imitation cn be achieved by taking a trayful of ice cubes, go to  really quiet place, record it. Then apply various legnths of echo to individual cracks...up to 4 secs, and amp up something like tenfold... I had to stop the recording early since akid asked her mother something 40 meters away. Possibly cannot try again this spring it's in the low 50s F here today

That I can confirm that the harbour is free of ice.
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