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Re: Arctic Café
« Reply #850 on: February 14, 2017, 01:04:30 PM »
Today walked the short river path (~1.5mi.) and back home. This is though a somewhat controlled river so these two images aren't 'entirely natural'. Still some features occurring also in free-flowing rivers can be seen. Southfacing northbank has lost almost all snow and the meltwater has started to gnaw the northern shore of the riverside. As this has been quite dry start of the winter the water levels are low, this leads the ice to be lowest in the middle of the river and the meltwater gathers there on the other pic.
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« Reply #851 on: February 15, 2017, 02:31:47 PM »
In memory of the 84 men of the Ocean Ranger.
All hands were lost when the rig capsized
in a terrible winter storm 270km east of Newfoundland
35 years ago today,
15 February 1982.

http://www.heritage.nf.ca/articles/economy/ocean-ranger.php

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_Ranger

I remember it like yesterday. We were living in Twillingate on the NE coast of the Rock, and the wind that night howled like I'd never heard it before, a living screaming gale from the west. So odd, because our worst winds are nearly always nor-easterlies. We woke to find everything buried in huge drifts and the prospect of a day shovelling out, as everything was closed. But it was all put aside when we turned on the news. Everyone spent that terrible day glued to the TV in trembling disbelief. Newfoundland is tight-knit: the tragedy affected dozens of communities in the province. Everyone knew someone who had lost someone.

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« Reply #852 on: February 17, 2017, 08:57:58 AM »
The lake few messages and a couple of foehn and other warm days later starts to look like a dream plane for long-distance iceskating. Phone camera contrast at maximum.
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Re: Arctic Café
« Reply #853 on: February 17, 2017, 03:24:38 PM »
The lake few messages and a couple of foehn and other warm days later starts to look like a dream plane for long-distance iceskating. Phone camera contrast at maximum.

any coordinates or something that would hint to location? assuming it's somewhere in the US it's still nice to know what one is looking at a bit more precisely. not important, just a personal suggestion :-)
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« Reply #854 on: February 20, 2017, 08:33:16 PM »
These days I prefer the company of people who are unaware of or don't care enough to speak about AGW and what we are doing to this planet.
I don't have patience anymore when I hear someone mention these things again and again but do nothing to reduce their contribution.
Reducing our own contribution is so easy and opens so many new and exciting doors.
It's heartbreaking to me that the people living near me who currently contribute the most to destroying this planet are the ones who speak most often about it.

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« Reply #855 on: February 20, 2017, 08:46:06 PM »

OrganicSu, thank you for all what you and your family are doing. We appreciate.
My family of 4 live with < 1k eur per month. Anyway, we and you will find a way .. a human one.

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« Reply #856 on: February 20, 2017, 09:51:14 PM »
Couldn't resist, not because of the graph - we know that, because of the comment bellow.
It's my impression, many who knows about such graph are not aware of what that might bring.



"This is also an ecosystem EKG. That spike at the end is a major arrhythmia before the heart..."

ooo

"There are more of us than there are them" - who said that?

I am only one. Imagine others. 7B+ of such.

uuu ?

oioioi

Do you know that left glove turned inside-out fits on the right hand ?
Some Bell believers seems to have a problem with mathematical description of that fact, amazing.  (~1500 comments there, might take some time to load ;) )
More for math/academic types, which I'm not - at least not in view of society based on profit for some-. pdf here

Let's play, what else we can do?

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« Reply #857 on: February 20, 2017, 10:02:34 PM »
Couldn't resist, not because of the graph - we know that, because of the comment bellow.
It's my impression, many who knows about such graph are not aware of what that might bring.



"This is also an ecosystem EKG. That spike at the end is a major arrhythmia before the heart..."

ooo

"There are more of us than there are them" - who said that?

I am only one. Imagine others. 7B+ of such.

uuu ?

oioioi

Do you know that left glove turned inside-out fits on the right hand ?
Some Bell believers seems to have a problem with mathematical description of that fact, amazing.  (~1500 comments there, might take some time to load ;) )
More for math/academic types, which I'm not - at least not in view of society based on profit for some-. pdf here

Let's play, what else we can do?
. However the inside and outside of the glove are two different worlds not ever in contact with each other...
“You can know the name of a bird in all the languages of the world, but when you're finished, you'll know absolutely nothing whatever about the bird... So let's look at the bird and see what it's doing -- that's what counts.”
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« Reply #858 on: February 21, 2017, 12:04:57 AM »
Couldn't resist, not because of the graph - we know that, because of the comment bellow.
It's my impression, many who knows about such graph are not aware of what that might bring.



"This is also an ecosystem EKG. That spike at the end is a major arrhythmia before the heart..."

ooo

"There are more of us than there are them" - who said that?

I am only one. Imagine others. 7B+ of such.

uuu ?

oioioi

Do you know that left glove turned inside-out fits on the right hand ?
Some Bell believers seems to have a problem with mathematical description of that fact, amazing.  (~1500 comments there, might take some time to load ;) )
More for math/academic types, which I'm not - at least not in view of society based on profit for some-. pdf here

Let's play, what else we can do?
. However the inside and outside of the glove are two different worlds not ever in contact with each other...


. However the inside and outside of the glove are two different worlds not ever in contact with each other...

?? what? are you saying that just at a vo-doo distance might be a world ruled by a humans, not psychopaths?

If so, please, explain that to us in a dedicated thread, not here - in café, (ssssh: i'm a bit suspicuous about our current barteneder, might be a ruskie;) ).

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« Reply #859 on: February 21, 2017, 12:14:49 AM »
If so, please, explain that to us in a dedicated thread, not here - in café, (ssssh: i'm a bit suspicuous about our current barteneder, might be a ruskie;) ).

Comrades, I deny this allegation.

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« Reply #860 on: February 21, 2017, 12:22:07 AM »
If so, please, explain that to us in a dedicated thread, not here - in café, (ssssh: i'm a bit suspicuous about our current barteneder, might be a ruskie;) ).

Comrades, I deny this allegation.

Vodka is on the house.

and after that you are gonna need to take a lot of coffee, trust me -  i know what i'm saying (not sledge hammer). Thats on me. ;)
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« Reply #861 on: February 21, 2017, 12:48:00 AM »
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« Reply #862 on: February 23, 2017, 05:02:04 PM »
I like this millennial (a son I can only dream off, but I have daughters so who knows :) ), watch here.
I disagree with him on AGW/climate_change issue but I disagree with my self of (recalling) that age too. In short, he is much more aware of society/social situation than I was (or willing to be!) at that age.  And after all, all of it is about *their* future...
Isn't it ?

so, for God's sake, no wars please.
not more in my southyard, don't even think about starting some at my eastyard.
keep this planet inhabitable, not yust for me      

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« Reply #863 on: February 23, 2017, 09:09:53 PM »
Ivica


Thanks for the above link. The "millennial" is a new voice to me, but he now has my ear.


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« Reply #864 on: February 24, 2017, 09:38:34 AM »
Continuing occasional visits to the lake shore...

"We live between clouds and water", or ice where applicable.
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« Reply #865 on: February 25, 2017, 04:41:42 PM »
Couldn't resist after reading above about the topology of a glove.

The sleeping bag, a poem.

On the outside grows the furside; on the inside grows the skinside.
So the furside is the outside, and the skinside is the inside.
One side likes the skinside inside, and the furside on the outside.
Others like the skinside outside, and the furside on the inside.
If you turn the skinside outside, thinking you will side with that side,
then the soft side, furside's inside, which, some argue, is the wrong side.
If you turn the furside outside, as, you say, it grows on that side,
then your outside's next the skinside, which for comfort's not the right side.
For the skinside is the cold side, and your outside's not your warm side.
And two cold sides side by side are not right-side when side to side!
If you decide to side with that side, turn the topside furside inside.
Then the cold side furside skinside's, beyond all question, inside out!

Herbert George Ponting, photographer on Scott's last expedition.

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« Reply #866 on: February 25, 2017, 05:34:17 PM »
Couldn't resist after reading above about the topology of a glove.

The sleeping bag, a poem.

On the outside grows the furside; on the inside grows the skinside.
So the furside is the outside, and the skinside is the inside.
One side likes the skinside inside, and the furside on the outside.
Others like the skinside outside, and the furside on the inside.
If you turn the skinside outside, thinking you will side with that side,
then the soft side, furside's inside, which, some argue, is the wrong side.
If you turn the furside outside, as, you say, it grows on that side,
then your outside's next the skinside, which for comfort's not the right side.
For the skinside is the cold side, and your outside's not your warm side.
And two cold sides side by side are not right-side when side to side!
If you decide to side with that side, turn the topside furside inside.
Then the cold side furside skinside's, beyond all question, inside out!

Herbert George Ponting, photographer on Scott's last expedition.

I'm off now to warp a space ship into a Klein bottle.

and one more quote, from H2G2 I believe  ;)

Arthur cleared his throat, and then did it again.

''Where,'' he said, ''did you ...?''

''Find a gin and tonic?'' said Ford brightly. ''I found a small lake
that  thought  it  was  a gin and tonic, and jumped in and out of
that. At least, I think it thought it was a gin and tonic.''

''I may,'' he added with a grin which  would  have  sent  sane  men
scampering into trees, ''have been imagining it.''

He waited for a reaction from Arthur, but Arthur knew better than that.

With left action expressed as right action and averaged, and with "." standing for inner product: E(a,b) = -a.b
 ?
If so, then our physical space might have some spinorial properties. Isn't it exciting?
(Even if math is ok, we still should wait for experimental confirmation - but those fellows/experimentors are clever ones, not like what we see with leaderships of our soc/academia)



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« Reply #867 on: March 02, 2017, 02:16:39 PM »
Riverside after the rains which melted most of the snow. The extra water helped the small rapid clear its downstream off ice which stack on top and under the still stuck ice.
More to the downstream, water flows on top of ice.
I couldn't continue the lowest path beside the river since i didn't want to fall in there again.
Weather prediction promises freezing temperatures once more, the annual count of people drowned in weak ice hereabouts isn't yet final.
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« Reply #868 on: March 03, 2017, 08:24:10 AM »
If anyone knows whether A-Team is healthy and OK I would dearly appreciate knowing it.

My life and how I live it have been affected by some of the words written by A-Team and Bruce. No-one else's contributions on this forum have had any noticeable or conscious effect. If A-Team punched me in the face and spat at me I would take it. Why? He has the abilities of a great teacher. A student takes what a teacher dispenses and hopefully, with time, comes to understand why.

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« Reply #869 on: March 03, 2017, 09:00:37 AM »
If anyone knows whether A-Team is healthy and OK I would dearly appreciate knowing it.

My life and how I live it have been affected by some of the words written by A-Team and Bruce. No-one else's contributions on this forum have had any noticeable or conscious effect. If A-Team punched me in the face and spat at me I would take it. Why? He has the abilities of a great teacher. A student takes what a teacher dispenses and hopefully, with time, comes to understand why.

It's of course possible s/he's on a position in which the Trumpistan goverment may give him/her a gag order to be silent. At least s/he complained of the lack of general public interest a few times before disappearance. As currently the 'public' is only the Trumpistan supporters in government circles i guess, this is no surprise.

Of course it's also possible s/he's been promoted 'with new set of responsibilities' or moved to another job description with 'access to classified data sources'.
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« Reply #870 on: March 06, 2017, 01:19:04 PM »
Next batch of images of ice disturbed by changing sea levels and ship wave action. The floes are c.15cm (6in.) thick but the refrozen stuff is only about 3-4cm (1.5in.) needles to say we didn't try to walk there.

The public beach (3rd image)has received a bit of additional damage.
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« Reply #871 on: March 06, 2017, 01:35:10 PM »
Working.
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« Reply #872 on: March 07, 2017, 01:50:39 AM »
Geese returned to Winnipeg, MB today.  Possibly call them French-Canadian Geese because these first few go to the Seine River.  Not that much earlier, I've seen them in colder and more deep snow on the 12th.  Peace out,

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« Reply #873 on: March 07, 2017, 11:01:47 PM »
Ice-related story: dramatic rescue of the crew of a sealing vessel out of Summerford,  Newfoundland, which ran into trouble in high winds and heavy ice-infested seas NE of St John's on Sunday. This was a first-time real-life rescue for the crew of the chopper, which was ably flown by one Captain Nicole Lively. :D

Check out the video in the story.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/summerford-skipper-safe-at-home-after-rescue-at-sea-1.4011611

This is the time of year when Newfoundlanders have traditionally taken to the ice around our shores to harvest seals---harp seals, which whelp on the pack ice that drifts down from the Arctic on the Labrador Current. The hunt is not what it used to be, in the wake of animal rights campaigning, and nowadays no whitecoats are taken, but sealing is still an important economic contributor to many Newfoundland households. The entire animal in used, the carcase and hide, in traditional Newfoundland culture.

And yes. I miss A-Team too.

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« Reply #874 on: March 08, 2017, 12:21:49 AM »
Couldn't resist after reading above about the topology of a glove.

The sleeping bag, a poem.

On the outside grows the furside; on the inside grows the skinside.
So the furside is the outside, and the skinside is the inside.
One side likes the skinside inside, and the furside on the outside.
Others like the skinside outside, and the furside on the inside.
If you turn the skinside outside, thinking you will side with that side,
then the soft side, furside's inside, which, some argue, is the wrong side.
If you turn the furside outside, as, you say, it grows on that side,
then your outside's next the skinside, which for comfort's not the right side.
For the skinside is the cold side, and your outside's not your warm side.
And two cold sides side by side are not right-side when side to side!
If you decide to side with that side, turn the topside furside inside.
Then the cold side furside skinside's, beyond all question, inside out!

Herbert George Ponting, photographer on Scott's last expedition.

I'm off now to warp a space ship into a Klein bottle.


*giggling*....and....cue "The Modern Hiawatha" by George A Strong:

 "He killed the noble Mudjokivis.
 Of the skin he made him mittens,
 Made them with the fur side inside,
 Made them with the skin side outside.
 He, to get the warm side inside,
 Put the inside skin side outside.
 He, to get the cold side outside,
 Put the warm side fur side inside.
 That's why he put the fur side inside,
 Why he put the skin side outside,
 Why he turned them inside outside."

http://wonderingminstrels.blogspot.ca/2000/09/modern-hiawatha-george-strong.html

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« Reply #875 on: March 10, 2017, 11:12:43 PM »
Once upon a time ;) I became good with student from Panama, which, more or less, always had a guitar with him, he teached me "Guantanamera is a village", "guajira/quahira? means a girl". Girl from Guantanamo.

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« Reply #876 on: March 10, 2017, 11:28:56 PM »
I love that rendition of Thunderstruck!
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« Reply #877 on: March 12, 2017, 07:23:41 AM »
That's not melt pooling. I had to throw in a piece of wood to see if it splashes. Mind you, the shores had water, runoff from land.
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« Reply #878 on: March 19, 2017, 03:46:14 PM »
Those of you, like me, who think your days of getting up into the high latitudes may be over, or who have never been where it really is cold, might find this novel pretty damn good.

It is Miss Smilla's Feeling for Snow or Smilla's Sense of Snow (Danish: Frøken Smillas fornemmelse for sne). A 1992 novel by Danish author Peter Høeg. It was translated into English by Tiina Nunnally (credited as "F. David" in the British edition).

Read all about it at:-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Smilla's_Feeling_for_Snow

The author knows his subject.


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« Reply #879 on: March 20, 2017, 10:45:13 PM »
(Because a) I'd feel sheepish putting this in the main IJIS thread, b) I wanted somewhere to link to from the main blog, and c) this is a home for random offtopicness...)

The first in a likely short lived series, 'Arctic charts that resemble album covers', I give you my IJIS / Unknown Pleasures mashup.

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« Reply #880 on: March 20, 2017, 11:06:26 PM »
How about another series, 'Album covers that resemble Arctic maps':



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« Reply #881 on: March 26, 2017, 09:46:31 AM »
Mind you, these are of fresh ice melting in-place. If the river wasn't controlled that would have left for sea alredy. The lake instead is rather natural wrt ice. Tried to record sound of ice cracking but something went wrong. Nice to hear spring is progresaing, though. I haven't visited Baltic shore since the latest imges so don't know what's up in there.
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« Reply #882 on: March 26, 2017, 01:31:58 PM »
Mind you, these are of fresh ice melting in-place. If the river wasn't controlled that would have left for sea alredy. The lake instead is rather natural wrt ice. Tried to record sound of ice cracking but something went wrong. Nice to hear spring is progresaing, though. I haven't visited Baltic shore since the latest imges so don't know what's up in there.

I would love to hear those sounds. Will be much more noticeable at night..
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« Reply #883 on: March 26, 2017, 02:04:58 PM »
I would love to hear those sounds. Will be much more noticeable at night..
I think a pretty good imitation cn be achieved by taking a trayful of ice cubes, go to  really quiet place, record it. Then apply various legnths of echo to individual cracks...up to 4 secs, and amp up something like tenfold... I had to stop the recording early since akid asked her mother something 40 meters away. Possibly cannot try again this spring it's in the low 50s F here today

That I can confirm that the harbour is free of ice.
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« Reply #884 on: April 21, 2017, 08:42:00 PM »
Apparently, after Leonardo DiCaprio had to travel half the World in order to find proper snow for ”The Revenant”, Hollywood has decided to follow up on the cold theme and engaged an arch crook to play the leading role in a new Arctic drama (see http://deadline.com/2017/04/mads-mikkelsen-arctic-armory-films-1202071899/ ). He will face the choice of either staying in the Arctic or flee towards lower latitudes, when the shit hits the fan. It will be interesting to see what the directors wants him to do in order to keep the audiences happy.

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« Reply #885 on: April 23, 2017, 02:46:34 PM »
Think more about mediterra & its past... if you, (our blood) overseas, do not understand mediterra how are you going to understand others... neighbors as example...

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Read this. Read it again. Then read it again.

Then realize that while YOU do the first part, you never bother to do the second part.

YES! I second this comment, a hundred times over.

Also, people REALLY need to learn to separate their ideas from their personal identity. For example, I would be shocked to learn that climate change isn't real, but I wouldn't be DISAPPOINTED. The *idea* is not part of who *I* am.

This is also why I wish we wouldn't call people climate deniers. By identifying *who* someone is according to their ideas, you obviously are conflating their ideas with their personal identity. And then you call it/them a piece of crap. I wonder why they become so resistant to change???

     "This is also why I wish we wouldn't call people climate deniers"

True. On the other hand if we would call them what they really are (i.e. "willfully obtuse scientifically illiterate morons") doesn't sound any better. At least 'science deniers' gives them the benefit of the doubt about all the other areas of their lives.
:) back to gardening...

---night time

If we allow imbeciles to lead us, what does that tell about us?

To decoy, use - for example this  (just watching) - i.e. move focus somewhere far.. to anything but MSM. (so sick of destruction this society does cant wait for the morning to check how life still progresses in my garden) .
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Plse, dont mix science with social aferes under which we live. Da Te Mogu Pismom Zvati https://youtu.be/7qwY7MGwpXc ~  ˇ

Allium ursinum: Do you've experience with that plant? (to share with us, not here, other thread) ?

! .. ~

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Stepped on it by chance. A film, Russian one, icebreaker captured by ice, awful translation, perfect for Café.
Interesting NYT article from other times, one quote:
Another operation that captured the public imagination was an operation earlier this year in which the icebreaker Moskva was sent to the Soviet Far East to break a channel for thousands of white beluga whales that were threatened by ice off the coast.
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The difficulty is not so great to die for a friend, as to find a friend worth dying for. – Homer

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Terry is not only one!
Poem by Bruce Steele, here:

It will come from below
 and we will no more know than the trilobites
 our place in it
Brachiopods and bryozoans
 turned to rock
 like before
Cnidarian nightmares
 sulfur, floating fish
It would take a time machine
 to turn this back
And believe me
 It was us
!?!
 
--ivica ~

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« Reply #886 on: April 23, 2017, 03:40:20 PM »
[quote from elsewhere]
    "I live for being wrong," said Lajoie. "That's where we learn."
Read this. Read it again. Then read it again.

Then realize that while YOU do the first part, you never bother to do the second part.

[quote from elsewhere]
Also, people REALLY need to learn to separate their ideas from their personal identity. For example, I would be shocked to learn that climate change isn't real, but I wouldn't be DISAPPOINTED. The *idea* is not part of who *I* am.
Yes. Yes. Yes!

Anger, there's been a lot of late.
I analyse my anger to know who *I* am.
It can take days or weeks (sometimes never) of sniffing around it, asking it's true source to understand really why I became angry. Once understood the remnants of that anger vanishes. I cannot speak for anyone else but I have been angry, so fxxking angry, for the needless consumption and waste which leads to the destruction of this planet. Eventually I understood I was angry at myself for not doing what I could do to stop my contribution.
Anger. It's my mirror.
I would cry with joy if AGW was untrue. I would not regret the choices I have made (unfortunately only recently) to reduce my contribution to AGW. Those choices have led to happiness, spirituality and peace.

Poems are in vogue but I'm no poet. I love Bruce's. I love Ivica - she seems to have a very strong 6th sense and knows exactly what's going on. I love nature.
I like to sing this poem repeatedly, like a mantra, emphasizing the last word (does that mean it's a song?)
  You are nature
  And there is no death
  You will come again
  Just in a different form

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« Reply #887 on: April 25, 2017, 01:47:55 PM »
I sincerely thank Bruce and Ateam and AbruptSLR, my angels, who have helped  guide my path and Neven for enabling the connection.
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« Reply #888 on: April 25, 2017, 03:00:28 PM »
I sincerely thank Bruce and Ateam and AbruptSLR, my angels, who have helped  guide my path and Neven for enabling the connection.

OrganicSu,

Thank you, and all of the posters in Neven's ASIF for bringing focus to important issues.

Best,
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« Reply #889 on: April 26, 2017, 10:27:33 PM »
... tuning in progress, aparatchiks please, stay away!

Don't do *that*, or else: #1

!!            /gonna stoppin' here ?/
tun-ing in progress, plse, stay aware!  be sure, i'm not only one!

In life of MSM there is nothing then hypes, lies and kleveta i.e.
aspersion, calumny, defamation, detraction, libel, slander, slur, vilification.

--ivica :I love you all:

its up to you from now on, at least for a while :)
(meanwhile, i've to do some gardening - to survive)

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« Reply #890 on: April 27, 2017, 01:58:37 AM »
... tuning in progress, aparatchiks please, stay away!

Don't do *that*, or else: #1

!!            /gonna stoppin' here ?/
tun-ing in progress, plse, stay aware!  be sure, i'm not only one!

In life of MSM there is nothing then hypes, lies and kleveta i.e.
aspersion, calumny, defamation, detraction, libel, slander, slur, vilification.

--ivica :I love you all:

its up to you from now on, at least for a while :)
(meanwhile, i've to do some gardening - to survive)


Hopefully it's the garden's survival that's in doubt. :)
Terry

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« Reply #891 on: April 29, 2017, 10:26:21 AM »
Of possible interest to ASIF: Season Two of "Fortitude" is now on Amazon Prime. Story set in Svalbard (though it's shot in Iceland). Retreating ice is causing some problems for the fine people of Svalbard but now in Season two they have Dennis Quaid.

https://www.amazon.com/Fortitude-Season-2-Official-Trailer/dp/B06XNKVQVZ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493452380&sr=8-1&keywords=fortitude

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« Reply #892 on: May 14, 2017, 04:17:37 AM »
... tuning in progress, aparatchiks please, stay away!

Don't do *that*, or else: #1

!!            /gonna stoppin' here ?/
tun-ing in progress, plse, stay aware!  be sure, i'm not only one!

In life of MSM there is nothing then hypes, lies and kleveta i.e.
aspersion, calumny, defamation, detraction, libel, slander, slur, vilification.

--ivica :I love you all:

its up to you from now on, at least for a while :)
(meanwhile, i've to do some gardening - to survive)



Hopefully it's the garden's survival that's in doubt. :)
Terry

:)

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There is one more saying: ... but there’s more of us than there is of them ...

BTW: A message to eric s.: you will never be president of us ! !

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The Vineyard Saker blog celebrates its 10th anniversary
When I wrote that first blog entry I would never have imagined that one day there would be a multi-lingual and multi-national “Saker community of blogs”, that about 100 volunteers worldwide would be helping us and that it was possible to unite under one conceptual roof libertarians, communists, monarchists, Christians, Muslims, agnostics, anarchists and many others.  And yet here we all are, working together without compromising our values, without having to silence the voice of our consciences.


-- Saturday evening: the 1%, false flag, deep state

Easy folks, i've to raise some carrots. destructive way of thinking do not helps.

The Saker on April 17, 2017  ·  at 3:50 pm UTC
   "How do you destroy evil?
   By refusing to take part in it. At any cost. Any."

prev at Café:
“Let us get it into our heads: with the devil there is no dialogue,” Pope Francis.

Don't negotiate with evil!              If you do - you lose.   

RIP Groth.

We Are Everywhere

We Are Everywhere


/eol/

Now please tell us (don't pollute Café plse - else, else) what do you think about "voting  for lesser evil" ? .-

Want save the world? start with yourself!
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//i've read what sidd wrote a several times before - but tonight it striked me as powerfull poetry. what i felt i can not describe, what i can do is say "thank you" sidd, my/our friend. !

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Interesting comparison between Assange and Zuckerberg:



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Mehdi Hasan Retweeted The New Yorker
  Invading Iraq, collaborating in rendition, demonizing asylum-seekers and letting the banks run wild...yes...all very 'centrist'.
Mehdi Hasan added,
  The New YorkerVerified account @NewYorker
  After a decade away, Tony Blair is back with a plan to restore Britain's lost center: http://nyer.cm/UPHtcli

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Glenn Greenwald Retweeted
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Despite warnings, @NSAGov built dangerous attack tools that could target Western software. Today we see the cost:

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« Reply #893 on: May 18, 2017, 11:09:08 AM »
Anyone read Drawdown?
http://www.drawdown.org/

"Project Drawdown is the most comprehensive plan ever proposed to reverse global warming."

worth a read?

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« Reply #894 on: May 18, 2017, 08:02:12 PM »
Sometimes this soc looks to me like one run by dice - no intellect used. Loaded dice, by greed.

Good read, Ugo Bardi, here:

But the human colony doesn't have a brain, it can react to external stimuli but it can't plan ahead. Those large human colonies called "states" don't show an intelligent behavior; not more than ant colonies do. States explore their environment, compete for resources, occasionally fight each other, at times very destructively. But these are behaviors that ant colonies engage in as well.


Dictators, kings, emperors, and the like are normally just as clueless about the system they are supposed to manage as their subject.

ps: don't miss comments.

Making ppl "unaware & compliant"  do not helps, not at all. How patheticaly primitive.
What about making ppl aware ??

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« Reply #895 on: May 18, 2017, 09:45:35 PM »
Anyone read Drawdown?
http://www.drawdown.org/

"Project Drawdown is the most comprehensive plan ever proposed to reverse global warming."

worth a read?


Looks very interesting. I just read this interview with the author on Vox. I like how they went about it. It seems like worth a read to me, but I don't have time to read.
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Re: Arctic Café
« Reply #896 on: June 05, 2017, 05:47:34 AM »
Anybody have viewing plans? (non-arctic, but hey, this is the cafe)

http://www.eclipse2017.org/

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« Reply #897 on: June 05, 2017, 10:07:19 PM »
Anybody have viewing plans? (non-arctic, but hey, this is the cafe)

Definitely. I have primary plans (Tennessee), plus two backups (Wyoming and Nebraska) just in case. Three ground-mounted cameras, plus two UAVs.

And my brother's spread in Texas lies almost exactly in the center of the path of totality for the slightly longer 2024 event, so I'm already covered there. So long as he doesn't sell. ;-)

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« Reply #898 on: June 06, 2017, 08:48:40 AM »
My plans mirror yours, Jim, in that I have multiple motel reservations lined up along the path of the eclipse, from Nebraska to Tennessee, will drive toward clear weather as required. (Tennessee forecasts for that time of year are often "partly cloudy with 30% chance of afternoon showers")

Three ground-mounted cameras, plus two UAVs.

But you've got to share about the UAVs. UAVs? To look back down at the ground and see the shadow crossing beneath?

(Okay FWIW I am going to go start a new thread here in "The Rest" for people to share eclipse plans, eclipse-viewing equipment, and, after the eclipse, pictures and other data)
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« Reply #899 on: June 11, 2017, 11:27:00 AM »
Oops. Anthropomorphisms should probably be here

Pacific:"hey Arctic, could I shove this hot air and water to you?"
Arctic:"oh dear, why do you have to be so hot? I'd rather not."
Pacific:"it's nice you think I'm hot, here's a hug of hot air"
Arctic:"you're kind of warm hearted, but I'm not sure..."
Pacific:"enough talk, i'm ready, here i come".
Pacific then proceeds to inject warm waters to Arctic and Arctic shouts:"careful I'm pretty sensitive!"
5 months later Arctics father Atlantic says to her daughter,"i don't recognize you anymore, why are you so hot and fat and warm to strange animals?"
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