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Elections 2020 USA
« on: November 07, 2018, 08:51:12 PM »
Kick this off by noting the 2018 elections show republicans retaining rural strength, democrats increasing share of suburban vote, and holding the cities. Turnout up in both, people are voting.

https://www.politico.com/election-results/2018/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/record-voter-turnout-in-2018-midterm-elections/

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Re: Elections 2020 USA
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2018, 09:03:23 AM »
Wow, haven't even recovered from the 2018 thread  ;D

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Re: Elections 2020 USA
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2018, 10:35:21 AM »
A bit off topic but quite instructive, Jesse Ventura's run for the governership of Minnesota 20 years ago. The Democrats clearly learned nothing from this.
https://www.rt.com/shows/watching-the-hawks/443301-jesse-ventura-governor-anniversary/

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Re: Elections 2020 USA
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2018, 01:01:41 AM »

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Re: Elections 2020 USA
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2018, 11:03:41 PM »

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Re: Elections 2020 USA
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2018, 02:20:20 AM »
You're wasting your time.

The system is rigged.

We live under a world wide autocratic empire.
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is contempt prior to investigation. - Herbert Spencer

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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2018, 04:20:11 AM »
"You assist an unjust administration most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. [...] A good person will resist an evil system with his whole soul. Disobedience of the laws of an evil state is therefore a duty."
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Re: Elections 2020 USA
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2018, 06:10:39 AM »
...
We live under a world wide autocratic empire.

"An autocracy is a system of government in which supreme power is concentrated in the hands of one person, whose decisions are subject to neither external legal restraints nor regularized mechanisms of popular control"

Didn't know Trump was that powerful?

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Re: Elections 2020 USA
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2018, 08:05:48 AM »
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We live under a world wide autocratic empire.

"An autocracy is a system of government in which supreme power is concentrated in the hands of one person, whose decisions are subject to neither external legal restraints nor regularized mechanisms of popular control"

Didn't know Trump was that powerful?

I'm talking about occult supranational powers that installed Trump, who is controlled opposition.

There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is contempt prior to investigation. - Herbert Spencer

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Re: Elections 2020 USA
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2018, 08:11:40 AM »
Clearly we need an "Occult Supranational Powers" thread.

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Re: Elections 2020 USA
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2018, 02:40:08 PM »
Is it 1984?

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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2018, 01:34:34 AM »
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is contempt prior to investigation. - Herbert Spencer

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Re: Elections 2020 USA
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2019, 05:33:56 AM »
America's Finest News Source: ‘We Will Not Repeat The Mistakes Of The 2016 Election’

"the U.S. populace vowed Wednesday not to repeat the errors of 2016"

https://politics.theonion.com/we-will-not-repeat-the-mistakes-of-the-2016-election-1832763775

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Re: Elections 2020 USA
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2019, 04:31:54 PM »
We shall see.

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Re: Elections 2020 USA
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2019, 11:12:34 PM »
Merry at the american conservative sees the possibility of a socialist president:

He doesn't like it of course:

"So it’s possible that the country could get, for the first time in its history, an experiment in socialist governance, mixed with a far-left push on high-voltage social issues such as immigration, political correctness, and racial politics. That would be a recipe for failure, leaving the country even more desperate for political leadership to restore stability."


https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-coming-socialist-president/

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« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2019, 01:24:41 AM »
Merry at the american conservative sees the possibility of a socialist president:

Not a chance. There are none currently in the running and there are none with the necessary popularity (or age--looking at you, AOC). We'll get a Corporate Democrat at best. Most likely, we'll need to suffer Trump for another four years. The Dem candidates that have declared so far are incredibly weak and in no way represent socialist platforms.

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Re: Elections 2020 USA
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2019, 09:09:10 AM »
Money, money, money: how the sausage is made

“Everyone at this point is for no PAC money, no super PACs, no oil money, no Wall Street money, no foreign money, and everyone is for overturning Citizens United,”

“Bernie basically funded an entire campaign with online and low-dollar contributions,”

"Harris, Gillibrand, and Booker are taking a hybrid approach, constructing robust grassroots operations while still enjoying the backing of fat cats ..."

“The only reason anyone ever gets out of a presidential race is because they ran out of money”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/02/elizabeth-warrens-rookie-mistake-foreshadows-a-2020-money-war

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Re: Elections 2020 USA
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2019, 08:40:14 AM »
For what it's worth: gallup sez iberals outnumbered by conservatives

https://news.gallup.com/poll/247016/conservatives-greatly-outnumber-liberals-states.aspx

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Re: Elections 2020 USA
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2019, 09:35:06 AM »
Oh. My. Gosh.  :-[

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« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2019, 10:30:07 AM »
Oh. My. Gosh.  :-[

Welcome to reality. It is what it is.
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Re: Elections 2020 USA
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2019, 11:50:31 AM »
Oh. My. Gosh.  :-[

Welcome to reality. It is what it is.

My hope was the pendulum would swing a little all things considered.

I am socially naive i have to admit.

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Re: Elections 2020 USA
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2019, 05:28:24 PM »
For what it's worth: gallup sez iberals outnumbered by conservatives

https://news.gallup.com/poll/247016/conservatives-greatly-outnumber-liberals-states.aspx

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It's deeply disheartening.  Of course, it's a global phenomenon, not US-specific.  Many, many places are turning conservative/neoliberal/authoritarian/nationalist. 
I suspect the greatest underlying cause is social media.
It's easy to spread fear/hate/xenophobia/nationalism in 124 characters at a time.  Progressive policies usually require deeper examination to support.

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Re: Elections 2020 USA
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2019, 06:38:02 PM »
Oh. My. Gosh.  :-[

Welcome to reality. It is what it is.

My hope was the pendulum would swing a little all things considered.

I am socially naive i have to admit.

Not at all, I wasn't having a dig at you. Most people do not understand how conservative right wing American society is on the ground. It's a good thing to be dis-illusioned and see things for what they truly are.

btw don't miss the grey states "average"  means they lean conservative, and those are considered the "swing states" - OK? This is how different the US is to Europe and other advanced nations.  The words and phrases used by US presidents and politicians often mean completely different things than the same words used elsewhere. 

It's why there is no universal healthcare, no long term unemployment benefit, only 2 weeks annual leave if lucky to have a full-time job, and the GND will be sunk no matter is the next president. This is the reality.
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« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2019, 10:39:39 PM »
Hopkins at consent factory predicts Muller report fizzle and Trump election narrative:

"The long-awaited Mueller report is due any day now, or so they keep telling us. Once it is delivered, and does not prove that Trump is a Russian intelligence asset, or that he personally conspired with Vladimir Putin to steal the presidency from Hillary Clinton, well, things are liable to get a bit awkward. "

" Trump is going to reach over, grab that report, roll it up tightly into a makeshift cudgel, and then beat the snot out of his opponents with it. He is going to explain to the American people that the Democrats, the corporate media, Hollywood, the liberal intelligentsia, and elements of the intelligence agencies conspired to try to force him out of office with an unprecedented propaganda campaign and a groundless special investigation. He is going to explain to the American people that Russiagate, from start to finish, was, in his words, a ridiculous “witch hunt,” a childish story based on nothing. Then he’s going to tell them a different story."

"That story goes a little something like this …"

"The American people did not care. They were so disgusted with being conned by arrogant, two-faced, establishment stooges like the Clintons, the Bushes, and Barack Obama that they chose to put Donald Trump in office, because, fuck it, what did they have to lose?"

"Every component of the ruling establishment (i.e., the government, the media, the intelligence agencies, the liberal intelligentsia, et al.) collaborated in an unprecedented effort to remove an American president from office based on a bunch of made-up horseshit … which kind of amounts to an attempted soft coup."

"This is the story Donald Trump is going to tell the American people."


https://consentfactory.org/2019/03/21/mueller-dammerung/

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Re: Elections 2020 USA
« Reply #24 on: Today at 12:16:11 AM »
"Every component of the ruling establishment (i.e., the government, the media, the intelligence agencies, the liberal intelligentsia, et al.) collaborated in an unprecedented effort to remove an American president from office based on a bunch of made-up horseshit … which kind of amounts to an attempted soft coup."

"This is the story Donald Trump is going to tell the American people."

Which is what I feared from the very start. Russiagate could very well be the primary reason for a Trump re-election. The other problem is that it has been used to smear progressives (aka Putin puppets or Kremlinbots). It is basically a double whammy, making Trump stronger and weakening progressive populism, the only thing that can beat Trump.

What a mess...
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« Reply #25 on: Today at 03:05:23 AM »
What a mess? Yep :)

Jimmy: " isn't it amazing that somehow at this
a dumb jagoff nightclub comedian can see
through this bullshit from day one from
day one and there's nobody who's less of
a fan of Trump than me of his policies
and we saw it from day one which just
goes to show you I don't know what it
goes to show you but it goes to show you
that maybe that's why the country's in
the state it's in because the
information you know an uninformed
electorate an informed electorate is
necessary for a functioning democracy we
don't have an informed electorate we
have a propagandize lied to and BS gas
lit and gas Litton gaslighted electorate
that's what we have and that's what that
and now they see through they don't
trust the media and now they see it
that's a lot of independence - by the
way that's not just Republicans
that's Democrats and independence and by
the way we warned you at the beginning
of this in January 2017 we warned you

that the big danger of the mainstream
news media pushing this Russia gate
without any evidence is that it's gonna
erode people's confidence in journalism
and the news and then when Trump
actually is doing stuff they won't
believe you we were right we were right
and guess who was wrong fucking
everybody else everybody except for a
handful of people and you know who
those are



This is a really good overview, Jimmy really nails that conga line of gullible irrational Conspiracy Theorists and those blatant Liars in the Press



Don't worry Neven. I'm sure that AbruptSLR, and Rob Dekker, and Martin Gisser, and Buddy, and sedziobs, and Susan Anderson, and Oren et al are all preparing their apology to you and to Jimmy Dore when the Mueller Report is finally tabled.  ;D

And their second apology if Trump gets re-elected in Nov 2020.
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