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Re: The problem of Corporate Democrats and how to kick them out
« Reply #1950 on: September 04, 2019, 10:49:04 PM »
Sjursen pulls no punches in a scathing summation of Obama's presidency:

His concluding paragrafs:

"Though he had been a constitutional law professor, he flouted civil liberties, stretched the Constitution, spied on the citizenry and even executed an American citizen and his U.S.-citizen son via aerial drones, absent any transparency or legal due process. Furthermore, Obama knew about but chose to keep secret and maintain the Bush-era mass surveillance state that Edward Snowden eventually exposed. That Obama was so undoubtedly highly educated and informed on topics of constitutional law implies—disturbingly—that the man knew better but, in the interest of hoarding executive power and seeking political expediency, went forward anyway with this range of civil liberties violations. "

"His own Beltway centrism, interventionism and political opportunism, combined with the combative obstructionism of the tribal conservative opposition, ensured that Obama’s presidency would be mostly a failure. One expected as much from the unapologetic, and buffoonish, neoconservatism and imperialism of the George W. Bush team. That Obama was hardly better was far more discomfiting, challenging one’s capacity to believe in meaningful progress at all."

"Perhaps that’s the final rub: If there could have been no Obama without Bush, there most certainly would never have been a President Trump without establishment, African-American Barack Obama as his predecessor. "

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/american-history-for-truthdiggers-the-obama-disappointment/

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Re: The problem of Corporate Democrats and how to kick them out
« Reply #1953 on: September 06, 2019, 11:12:01 PM »
Democrats Say Their Climate Plans Will Create Jobs. It’s Not So Simple
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/04/climate/climate-job-creation.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fclimate
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Experts say Democrats’ assertions are accurate, to a point. Fighting climate change will create jobs. Yet the rosy net numbers, some warned, don’t tell the far more complicated story of what that green growth could look like.

“Some of the rhetoric around creating ‘green jobs’ is intended to rebut that false narrative that we sacrifice our economy if we try to become greener,” said Douglas W. Elmendorf, dean of the Harvard Kennedy School and a former director of the Congressional Budget Office.

But, he added, “In general, economists are skeptical of claims of big numbers of jobs gained or lost from policies that are really about shifting sectors.”
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« Reply #1954 on: September 11, 2019, 09:21:53 PM »
How Big Oil Blocked the Nation’s Greenest Governor on Climate Change
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/10092019/big-oil-money-blocked-jay-inslee-climate-change-policy-carbon-fee-bp-washington
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But one piece of Inslee's package stalled in the legislature: the Low Carbon Fuel Standard to curb pollution from the state's biggest greenhouse gas polluter—transportation—a sector almost entirely dependent on oil. BP was among the businesses opposing the standard.

Without a policy to curb gasoline and diesel emissions, Washington state is a long way from having the kind of comprehensive climate solution Inslee has been talking about since taking office six years ago.

Inslee did get his chance to draw up a blueprint for such a solution—the six-part climate plan he released over the course of his five-month presidential run. It includes a timeline for 100 percent clean electricity, like the program that has been adopted in Washington. But it also includes measures he has not yet been able to enact, like carbon pricing. Some of the remaining candidates, including Elizabeth Warren and Julian Castro, are openly adopting parts of his platform as a template for their own climate plans.

Having dropped out of the presidential race, Inslee is turning his attention back to Washington state, where he is running for a third term as governor. He acknowledges that he has more work to do there on climate policy.

"The science is clear—we have to transition away from fossil fuels and we have to do it soon," Inslee said in an email. "Every sector of our economy and every level of government plays a role in that transition. Our state is striding forward, and we will not be daunted or deterred from pursuing the policies necessary to protect Washingtonians and our planet from the ravages of climate change."
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Re: The problem of Corporate Democrats and how to kick them out
« Reply #1955 on: September 20, 2019, 11:38:16 PM »
Moderate Democrats' climate proposal highlights rift with progressives
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/sep/18/moderate-democrats-climate-proposal-rift-progressives
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Moderate congressional Democrats worried about the infeasibility of passing the kind of sweeping climate legislation their progressive counterparts are proposing, such as the Green New Deal, are laying out their own policies.

The New Democrat Coalition released an 11-page outline of principles on Wednesday, along with a list of bills to back them up, advocating for incremental and “pro-market” steps to cut pollution.
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Re: The problem of Corporate Democrats and how to kick them out
« Reply #1956 on: October 01, 2019, 06:03:11 AM »
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Re: The problem of Corporate Democrats and how to kick them out
« Reply #1957 on: October 01, 2019, 07:04:11 AM »
Don't forget that one:

Democrats Joe Manchin, Doug Jones and Kyrsten Sinema voted to confirm Barr and one Republican, Rand Paul, voted against Barr.

Link >> https://www.politico.com/interactives/2019/william-barr-senate-confirmation-vote-count/
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Re: The problem of Corporate Democrats and how to kick them out
« Reply #1958 on: October 01, 2019, 10:12:40 AM »
UkraineBidengate is the dumbest possible trigger for impeachment, because it puts (Corporate) Democrats in a bind and shows their hypocrisy. And of course, leftist hypocrisy is the number one thing for the right to cash in on.

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Re: The problem of Corporate Democrats and how to kick them out
« Reply #1959 on: October 01, 2019, 10:28:58 AM »
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Re: The problem of Corporate Democrats and how to kick them out
« Reply #1960 on: October 01, 2019, 11:08:04 AM »
UkraineBidengate is the dumbest possible trigger for impeachment, because it puts (Corporate) Democrats in a bind and shows their hypocrisy. And of course, leftist hypocrisy is the number one thing for the right to cash in on.

... which is a good thing! You can't point out corruption often enough. On all sides.

If this impeachment process exposes any corrupt Democratic politician, that's totally fine with me. I welcome it even because my fav candidate isn't corrupt. :)
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Re: The problem of Corporate Democrats and how to kick them out
« Reply #1961 on: October 14, 2019, 03:26:22 PM »
It's almost impossible to beat Trump, if enough people keep protecting Corporate Democrats and glossing over their corruption (because of tribalism and TDS):



The Clintons, Podesta, Pelosi, Obama, Schumer, Feinstein, Biden, and the list goes on. Keep shielding these people, and Trump has it super-easy. Not because they are opposites (they're in the same club), but because it allows him to deflect any attacks on his corruption. He knows that when he does that, people will start to stutter and answer like Rob Dekker does, and then they lose. That's what happens when all you have, is a tribal bubble and a rickety ethical framework.
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« Reply #1962 on: October 14, 2019, 07:41:31 PM »
Something that I like to repeat is that the

EVIL DOERS

have never had issues to unite, build up a single front against the rest until they reached
their evil goals and they tend to split and fight for their part of the cake after they got
in control or got what they wanted, while

Those with GOOD Intentions usually split their forces in tiny nitpicking starting at the very
first stages of finding ways. They rarely can build a strong counter party against the evil
doers except shortly before overrun and eliminated entirely. Only once the good people are
force into combat mode themselves are they willing and ready to wipe the evil doers of
the landscape and once that point is reached they usually prevail because they combine
a higher resource of intelligence than the simple minded faschists and criminals of the world.

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« Reply #1963 on: October 15, 2019, 02:29:42 PM »
It's almost impossible to beat Trump, if enough people keep protecting Corporate Democrats and glossing over their corruption (because of tribalism and TDS):



The Clintons, Podesta, Pelosi, Obama, Schumer, Feinstein, Biden, and the list goes on. Keep shielding these people, and Trump has it super-easy. Not because they are opposites (they're in the same club), but because it allows him to deflect any attacks on his corruption. He knows that when he does that, people will start to stutter and answer like Rob Dekker does, and then they lose. That's what happens when all you have, is a tribal bubble and a rickety ethical framework.

have been avoiding the theater lately, interesting to see wanna-be silverback Joe fiddler becoming a submissive male to mr Orangeback.. adopting his speech and all

'everybody looked at this, and every's body looked at it said nothing is there'


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Re: The problem of Corporate Democrats and how to kick them out
« Reply #1964 on: October 15, 2019, 09:45:19 PM »
America's Finest News Source: Hunter agonistes

" he conceded that he had made some significant mistakes, Hunter Biden admitted Tuesday it was poor judgment on his part"

"When you’re in that deep, sometimes you don’t see how bad things really are"

"I take full responsibility"

https://politics.theonion.com/hunter-biden-admits-it-was-poor-judgment-to-be-involved-1839064969

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« Reply #1965 on: November 15, 2019, 09:46:23 PM »
Screw the poor. What have they ever donated to my campaign ?

"trillions of dollars in cuts to Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, and other social programs"

"five members of the Senate Democratic caucus: Whitehouse, Mark Warner (Va.), Tim Kaine (Va.), Chris Coons (Del.), and Angus King (I-Maine)"

" House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Democrats must commit to so-called "pay-go" rules, which require all new spending to be offset with budget cuts or tax increases."

Remember those names.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/11/14/senate-democrats-join-gop-back-automatic-austerity-bill-would-gut-social-programs

Sanders came out against the senate measure.

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« Reply #1966 on: December 03, 2019, 10:21:12 PM »
Another Democratic committee, another bunch of corporate shills: gutting regulation to benefit oligarchy

"the 10-year CFTC reauthorization would preserve loopholes in derivatives regulation while leaving the agency under-resourced and vulnerable to industry lawsuits."

“The CFTC has become the Achilles’ heel of Dodd-Frank,”

"In the 2006 election cycle, the American Bankers Association and the four banks that dominate the swaps market — J.P. Morgan Chase, Bank of America, Citigroup, and Goldman Sachs — contributed $218,000 to agriculture committee members. The same group of donors gave more than $370,000 to committee members from 2011-2012. Since 2017, they have given more than $515,000 to current members."

"the agency now oversees are many types of the credit default swaps that fueled demand for subprime loans, as well as the notorious interest-rate swaps that banks peddled to hundreds of local governments and school districts, who then paid billions just to exit the highly unfavorable contracts."

"When Dodd-Frank passed in 2010, the Wall Street reform included a provision requiring federally insured banks to stop engaging in some of the riskiest types of trades and move their swap desks into separate affiliates."

"[December 2014] bank lobbyists reportedly worked with Republicans to slip a provision into the year-end appropriations bill that radically weakened the swaps pushout rule."

"Thanks to the change, major banks including J.P. Morgan Chase, Citibank, Goldman Sachs, and Bank of America were able to retain $10.5 trillion worth of swaps"

"Among the committee’s majority members, 14 representatives are aligned with the New Democrat Coalition, a group that fundraises heavily from Wall Street  ...  Eleven members of the House Financial Services Committee are part of the centrist coalition, and have drawn fire from progressives for backing deregulation ... Several Democratic members also received sizable donations from executives at the hedge fund Bain Capital"

Read the whole thing:

https://theintercept.com/2019/12/03/wall-street-house-democrats-financial-regulations-cftc/

Brokksley Born's comments on CFTC and regulation from twenty years ago are prescient.

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Re: The problem of Corporate Democrats and how to kick them out
« Reply #1967 on: December 14, 2019, 07:07:22 PM »
188 Democrats Vote for Trump's Bloated Defense Budget

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« Reply #1968 on: December 18, 2019, 08:19:53 AM »
Well, well, well. WaPo gives Sanders a platform:

" I’m talking about the fact that the $120 billion increase in Pentagon spending — compared with the final year of the Obama administration — could have made every public college, university, trade school and apprenticeship program in the United States tuition free, eliminated homelessness and provided universal school meals to every kid in our nation’s public schools."

"We need a government that represents all of us, not just the corporate elite."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/12/16/bernie-sanders-deficit-hawks-once-again-show-their-hypocrisy-military-spending/

With that and the afghanistan papers i wonder if Bezos is growing a conscience.

Naaa ... no chance. They'll go back to whacking Bernie in a hot new york second.

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« Reply #1969 on: December 18, 2019, 10:15:13 PM »
Hartmann at alternet on Democrats losing their roots:

"the 2020 election may be the last chance to save the marriage."

"The party of big government solutions had become the party of big corporate money."

"The Democratic Party now led by Clinton thus embraced a behavior that most working Americans knew would be a disaster for them"

"Putting the knife hilt-deep into the spine of LBJ’s Great Society, Clinton said, “Today we are ending welfare as we know it” "

"For the first time since LBJ’s Great Society in the 1960s, families in poverty were not guaranteed a lifeline. "

"The year Reagan was sworn into office, the United States was the largest importer of raw materials in the world, and the world’s largest exporter of finished, manufactured goods ... Today, things are totally reversed: We are now the world’s mining pit, the largest exporter of raw materials, and the world’s largest importer of finished, manufactured goods."

"Clinton and the “moderate” DLC Democrats embraced becoming Eisenhower Republicans, even as Eisenhower would have repudiated their policies."

“‘The good news is that we may elect a Republican president this year,’ said Republican consultant Alex Castellanos. ‘The bad news is that it may be Bill Clinton.’”

"The result was the beginning of the Great Uncoupling the Democratic Party experienced in the 1990s, with formerly Democratic-voting working-class and poor people going over to the GOP"

"Since 1981, not one American president has seriously challenged the neoliberal basis of Reaganomics. Billionaires and corporations now largely run our politics"

https://www.alternet.org/2019/12/how-america-broke-up-with-the-democratic-party/

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« Reply #1970 on: December 20, 2019, 05:50:38 PM »
^^
"Since 1981, not one American president has seriously challenged the neoliberal basis of Reaganomics. Billionaires and corporations now largely run our politics"

and I fear this won't have changed by 2021
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« Reply #1971 on: December 21, 2019, 02:13:50 AM »
How corporate democrats kill medical reform:

"Thanks to a last minute dispute between House Democrats, surprise billing legislation was cut entirely from the massive, year-end spending measures that passed this week."

"Despite overwhelming public desire for a fix, Democrats appear to have caved to the lobbying efforts of hospitals, doctors, and private equity groups, raising questions about their willingness to put patient interests above those of their donors, and whether their leaders in the House can be trusted with any significant health reforms going forward. "

"You can pay for insurance, pick a doctor carefully, make sure the hospital where you have scheduled your procedure takes your coverage, and still end up on the hook for more than $100,000 because an assistant surgeon who didn’t accept your insurance swooped in to the operating room while you were unconscious. "

"it seemed that Congress had settled on a bipartisan compromise"

"The public trouble started when, out of the blue, the House Ways and Means Committee, led by Massachusetts Democrat Richard Neal and Texas Republican Kevin Brady, introduced its own proposal"

" a story about the power of donors over some influential Democrats—particularly Neal, the Ways and Means chairman. Health care providers have long been some of his largest donors"

"Neal could not have scuttled this legislation without permission from other senior Democrats, such as Speaker Nancy Pelosi."

"How can progressives trust a politician like that when it comes time for bigger health care reform? And how can they trust party leaders that let him get away with it?"

https://slate.com/business/2019/12/surprise-medical-bills-legislation-congress-democrats.html

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« Reply #1972 on: December 21, 2019, 07:25:41 PM »
sidd


I had the best health care package available in Clark County Nevada, yet in 2 years of very serious problems managed to spend ~$40K in what undoubtedly would have been the last two years of my life, had my care been left in their hands.


Since then, here in Ontario, everything from gasoline to parking, even hotels and meals for myself and my spouse if treatment takes me out of my municipality has been paid for. Drugs cost a $4 minimum since I'm over 65, but anyone of any age who would be put out by drug costs gets them free.


Why America doesn't provide similar care for her citizens is a mystery, but nowhere as mysterious as why Americans aren't up in arms for not receiving care from their government.


Healthcare isn't a privilege, it's the right of every animal! If you allow your dog or a horse to suffer or die because you won't treat him you can end up behind bars. If the government has incarcerated you and you're injured or ill they must treat you. Don't they also have the duty to look after the health needs of every resident?


If your prefered candidate won't fight for your right to health care, find a candidate who will.


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« Reply #1974 on: December 26, 2019, 07:00:39 AM »
Do you have a less shady source than 'News Thud'?

Their headline focuses specifically on Schiff, but I don't see him mentioned in your other two sources.
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« Reply #1975 on: December 26, 2019, 09:55:46 PM »
While i dislike doing homework for anybody, lets take one example:

United for a Strong America is just one of the PACs to which Khwaja contributed. This is the child of Adam Schiff.

"Schiff has been showering his colleagues with campaign cash through his leadership PAC, United for a Strong America."

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/472247-adam-schiffs-star-rises-with-impeachment-hearings

Each of the PACs on the list at opensecrets can be followed at propublica and other sources.

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« Reply #1976 on: December 28, 2019, 11:21:34 PM »
Grant at newrepublic on democrats and class war:

" the class-war politics some thought would vanish with the Occupy encampments has, instead, become commonplace."

"A decade on, Occupy has helped mainstream that which they were ridiculed for at the outset: illustrating, in the streets and elsewhere, how economic inequality is poisonous to democracy"

"Occupy has already set the terms for the decade to come"

https://newrepublic.com/article/155989/democratic-party-learned-wage-class-warfare

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« Reply #1977 on: January 03, 2020, 09:27:45 AM »
Remember these names:

"188 Democrats in Congress have also voted for his NDAA with stripped a provision to prevent unauthorized war with Iran."

https://twitter.com/_nalexander/status/1212929024223252480

"Trump's NDAA passed in the Senate 86 - 8.  Check out the "not voting" - 6:
Booker (D-NJ)
Harris (D-CA)
Isakson (R-GA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Sanders (I-VT)
Warren (D-MA) "

https://twitter.com/sfu1m3r/status/1212875744004771840

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« Reply #1978 on: January 03, 2020, 09:32:37 AM »
Bernard, you fucked up big time with this one...
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« Reply #1979 on: January 03, 2020, 10:48:07 AM »
Remember these names:

"188 Democrats in Congress have also voted for his NDAA with stripped a provision to prevent unauthorized war with Iran."

https://twitter.com/_nalexander/status/1212929024223252480

"Trump's NDAA passed in the Senate 86 - 8.  Check out the "not voting" - 6:
Booker (D-NJ)
Harris (D-CA)
Isakson (R-GA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Sanders (I-VT)
Warren (D-MA) "

https://twitter.com/sfu1m3r/status/1212875744004771840

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Sorry. But let us do some fact checking on that.

For starters, it seems that this (NDAA) vote in the Senate was on bill  S. 1790 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2020 ), voted on June 27, 2019 :

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=116&session=1&vote=00188

As far as I can see, there is NOTHING in this bill that would have "stripped a provision to prevent unauthorized war with Iran.".

Please let me know if you find otherwise.

[edit] here is the full text of the bill :
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/1790/text
« Last Edit: January 03, 2020, 11:03:49 AM by Rob Dekker »
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« Reply #1980 on: January 04, 2020, 09:19:30 AM »
As a matter of fact, Bernie Sanders amended this bill with a very clear message to prevent war with Iran :
https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2019/06/19/senate-section/article/S3851-1
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« Reply #1981 on: January 04, 2020, 02:32:41 PM »
... let us do some fact checking on that.

Cool! Thanks a lot, Rob! Wanted to check that myself but forgot about it.
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« Reply #1982 on: January 04, 2020, 07:54:06 PM »
As a matter of fact, Bernie Sanders amended this bill with a very clear message to prevent war with Iran :
https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2019/06/19/senate-section/article/S3851-1

More precisely, Bernie proposed that amendment.  It wasn't one of the amendments that passed:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/1790/amendments?q=%7B"status"%3A"Senate+amendment+agreed+to"%7D

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« Reply #1983 on: January 05, 2020, 02:42:27 AM »
As a matter of fact, Bernie Sanders amended this bill with a very clear message to prevent war with Iran :
https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2019/06/19/senate-section/article/S3851-1

More precisely, Bernie proposed that amendment.  It wasn't one of the amendments that passed:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/1790/amendments?q=%7B"status"%3A"Senate+amendment+agreed+to"%7D

Correct. But at least he tried...
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« Reply #1984 on: January 09, 2020, 01:07:10 AM »
Pelosi refusing to send articles of impeachment to senate:

This is a move to lock Warren and Sanders into senate trial during campaign season, perhaps into the early state primaries, leaving Biden uncontested on the road.

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« Reply #1985 on: January 09, 2020, 11:15:49 AM »
Pelosi refusing to send articles of impeachment to senate:

Helping Trump yet again. How can people not see what is happening?
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« Reply #1986 on: January 11, 2020, 09:16:47 PM »
A corporate democrat par excellence:

"used his clout to push for the law’s passage and to defeat amendments to shield servicemembers, women, and children from its harsh treatment."

"Not only did the law discourage bankruptcy filings, but it made it harder to wipe out credit card debt and student loans in bankruptcy. "

"bankruptcy bill unleashed a glut of aggressive private student lending, which has contributed to the massive rise in student loan debt."

"he was so singularly committed to its success that he inserted it into a foreign-relations bill in 2000, and later was the sole Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee to vote for the bill."

"consistently voted against efforts to soften BAPCPA’s blow on vulnerable populations ... against three amendments to ease bankruptcy requirements for consumers whose financial troubles stem from medical expenses ... against an amendment that would have helped seniors keep their homes ... against exempting servicemembers and widows of servicemembers killed in action from the law’s eligibility restrictions ... against an amendment to exempt women whose financial troubles stemmed from deadbeat husbands’ failure to pay child support or alimony ... voted against an amendment that would have ensured that children of debtors could still be given birthday and Christmas presents ... voted against allowing debtors to pay their union dues during bankruptcy, "

"voted to enshrine a “millionaire’s loophole” that allows wealthy, well-counseled debtors to shield their assets "

https://prospect.org/politics/bidens-votes-on-the-bankruptcy-bill-middle-class-joe/

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« Reply #1987 on: January 11, 2020, 09:25:35 PM »
Oldie but a goodie: democrats gotta pay to play on capitol hill. They even got a price list.

"Under the new rules for the 2008 election cycle, the DCCC [Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee] asked rank-and-file members to contribute $125,000 in dues and to raise an additional $75,000 for the party. Subcommittee chairpersons must contribute $150,000 in dues and raise an additional $100,000. Members who sit on the most powerful committees … must contribute $200,000 and raise an additional $250,000. Subcommittee chairs on power committees and committee chairs of non-power committees must contribute $250,000 and raise $250,000. The five chairs of the power committees must contribute $500,000 and raise an additional $1 million. House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, Majority Whip James Clyburn, and Democratic Caucus Chair Rahm Emanuel must contribute $800,000 and raise $2.5 million. The four Democrats who serve as part of the extended leadership must contribute $450,000 and raise $500,000, and the nine Chief Deputy Whips must contribute $300,000 and raise $500,000. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi must contribute a staggering $800,000 and raise an additional $25 million."

https://dylanratigan.com/2011/10/18/tom-ferguson-posted-prices-the-dc-stalemate-machine/

https://washingtonspectator.org/posted-prices-and-the-capitol-hill-stalemate-machine/

With democrats like these, who needs republicans ?

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« Reply #1988 on: January 12, 2020, 07:58:48 AM »
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« Reply #1989 on: January 12, 2020, 05:22:54 PM »
I'll post some Malcolm X quotes later.

But first this:

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« Reply #1990 on: January 13, 2020, 10:17:06 PM »
Oldie but a goodie: democrats gotta pay to play on capitol hill. They even got a price list.

"Under the new rules for the 2008 election cycle, the DCCC [Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee] asked rank-and-file members to contribute $125,000 in dues and to raise an additional $75,000 for the party. Subcommittee chairpersons must contribute $150,000 in dues and raise an additional $100,000. Members who sit on the most powerful committees … must contribute $200,000 and raise an additional $250,000. Subcommittee chairs on power committees and committee chairs of non-power committees must contribute $250,000 and raise $250,000. The five chairs of the power committees must contribute $500,000 and raise an additional $1 million. House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, Majority Whip James Clyburn, and Democratic Caucus Chair Rahm Emanuel must contribute $800,000 and raise $2.5 million. The four Democrats who serve as part of the extended leadership must contribute $450,000 and raise $500,000, and the nine Chief Deputy Whips must contribute $300,000 and raise $500,000. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi must contribute a staggering $800,000 and raise an additional $25 million."

https://dylanratigan.com/2011/10/18/tom-ferguson-posted-prices-the-dc-stalemate-machine/

https://washingtonspectator.org/posted-prices-and-the-capitol-hill-stalemate-machine/

With democrats like these, who needs republicans ?

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It's almost surreal seeing oligarchy laid out so publically. Americans don't get the government they deserve, they get the government they paid for. Republican or Republican-Lite, with little light between them.


The Overton Window has shifted so far to the right that those that were defeated in the 1940's occupy the center stage in a duopoly that wields control, not with a velvet glove but with an iron fist.


I'm not convinced that when the grid does fail, that all will see "The end of the world as we know it" as the worst fate that must be faced.  :'(


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Re: The problem of Corporate Democrats and how to kick them out
« Reply #1991 on: January 27, 2020, 01:25:07 PM »
“I’m an introvert. I’m just different that’s all. I’m so sorry. I don’t have a gun. I don’t do that stuff... All I was trying to do was to become better. I’ll do it... You all are phenomenal. You are beautiful. And I love you. Try to forgive me. I’m sorry.”

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« Reply #1992 on: January 28, 2020, 12:06:15 PM »
Corporate Democrats and identity politics idiots coming out in full swing, because Sanders is surging and that might upset their apple cart:



What will they come up with next week?
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« Reply #1993 on: January 29, 2020, 01:48:10 AM »
Cheating in progress:



I'll repeat what I've said for years now: Corporate Democrats - politicians, lobbyists and consultants - are a huge problem and the biggest hindrance in truly defeating Trump and moving forward. They will cheat and lie to offer nothing more than a choice between two evils, one of them purportedly lesser than the other, because they know so many people fall for it (as we've seen repeatedly on this forum). And that will lead to things worse than Trump. But they don't care, as this will ensure more money and power coming their way.

If these cheaters get their way again this time, I truly believe that all hope is lost.
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« Reply #1994 on: February 02, 2020, 07:41:07 AM »
Money. It's the new black:

DNC changes rules to let bloomberg into debate. After 300K US$ wortha persuasion.

https://news.yahoo.com/sanders-campaign-blasts-dnc-debate-rules-change-as-an-attempt-to-let-bloomberg-buy-his-way-onto-the-stage-004640307.html

DNC ain't even trying to hide it anymore. Just get an auctioneer gys.

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« Reply #1995 on: February 02, 2020, 08:55:51 AM »
Let's talk about Bernie, his women, and the military...

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« Reply #1996 on: February 04, 2020, 01:03:35 AM »
Reich at the Guardian: an apparatchik confession

" a rebellion against the establishment."

"Trump galvanized millions of blue-collar voters living in communities that never recovered from the tidal wave of factory closings."

"Democrats did nothing to change the vicious cycle of wealth and power"

“Democrats don’t have a ‘white working-class’ problem. They have a ‘working class problem’ "

“The fact is that Democrats have lost support with all working-class voters across the electorate.”

" Clinton and Obama advocated free trade agreements without providing millions of blue-collar workers who consequently lost their jobs any means of getting new ones that paid at least as well. Clinton pushed for Nafta and for China joining the World Trade Organization, and Obama sought to restore the “confidence” of Wall Street instead of completely overhauling the banking system."

"Both stood by as corporations hammered trade unions, the backbone of the white working class. They failed to reform labor laws  ... to impose meaningful penalties on companies that violated labor protections. Clinton deregulated Wall Street before the crash; Obama allowed the Street to water down attempts to re-regulate it ... Obama protected Wall Street from the consequences ... but allowed millions of underwater homeowners to drown."

"Clinton and Obama turned their backs on campaign finance reform ... Obama was the first presidential nominee since Richard Nixon to reject public financing in his primary and general election campaigns, and he never followed up on his re-election promise to pursue a constitutional amendment overturning Citizens United"

" they could have rallied the working class and built a coalition to grab back power from the emerging oligarchy. Yet they chose not to. Why?"

" I directly witnessed much of it: it was because Clinton, Obama and many congressional Democrats sought the votes of the “suburban swing voter” ... and turned their backs on the working class. They also drank from the same campaign funding trough as the Republicans – big corporations, Wall Street and the very wealthy."

"since 2000 Republican presidential candidates have steadily gained strength in America’s poorer counties while Democrats have lost ground. In 2016, Trump won 58% of the vote in the counties with the poorest 10% of the population. His share was 31% in the richest."

"There’s no longer a moderate “center”. There’s either Trump’s authoritarian populism or democratic – small “d” – populism."

"Trump is not the cause of our divided nation. He is the symptom of a rigged system that was already dividing us."

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« Reply #1997 on: February 04, 2020, 01:09:06 AM »
America's Finest News Source: DNC mulls new candidate

"He’s obviously not our first choice, but ... has a track record of winning elections, not to mention he does well with the conservative voters we’ll need to swing some red states blue"

"we need somebody with name recognition and a built-in following"

"Plus, he’ll have the backing of the Democratic donor base, who generally prefer him "

"I think I speak for party leadership"

https://politics.theonion.com/dnc-mulls-asking-donald-trump-to-run-as-democrat-in-eff-1841432132

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« Reply #1998 on: February 04, 2020, 03:22:16 AM »
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Does Bernie seem to be gaining traction in flyover country?


He's popular as hell with white collar progressives and he's the only one who can beat Trump, but he needs the enthusiastic backing of those that Hillary dismissed as deplorables.


Do you think that Bernie's message will resonate? Will the "Deplorables" ever trust another democrat?


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« Reply #1999 on: February 04, 2020, 06:09:27 AM »
Dunno. Mebbe in Iowa, but i havent been thru there lately. In rural Trump country i been thru in the last few months (Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, PA, Kentucky, W Virginia)  nobody seems to want to talk politics lately. I dont blame em.

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