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Re: Floods
« Reply #200 on: August 17, 2018, 06:13:40 AM »
JH Christ, that's too much water!


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Re: Floods
« Reply #201 on: August 17, 2018, 11:49:49 AM »
.. meanwhile in Kerala India .. hundreds dead and hundreds of thousands (at least) homeless with more monsoon rain to come .. All major state and local national roads impassable . Ongoing flash flooding and mudslides suggest final death toll will be much higher . Worst flooding in over 100 years .. b.c.
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Re: Floods
« Reply #202 on: August 17, 2018, 01:05:18 PM »
JH Christ, that's too much water!


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« Reply #203 on: August 17, 2018, 09:14:51 PM »
.. meanwhile in Kerala India .. hundreds dead and hundreds of thousands (at least) homeless with more monsoon rain to come .. All major state and local national roads impassable . Ongoing flash flooding and mudslides suggest final death toll will be much higher . Worst flooding in over 100 years .. b.c.


Most recent and up to date link for those interested

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/17/kerala-floods-death-toll-rescue-effort-india

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Re: Floods
« Reply #204 on: August 17, 2018, 09:39:46 PM »
More on the India Monsoon flooding/weather.

India Flooding Death Toll Doubles Again in Kerala State; More Than 320 Killed
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More than 320 people have died in the last nine days in floods triggered by intense monsoon rainfall in the southern Indian state of Kerala, the latest tragic flooding event in what has been a devastating season for the country.  Officials told the Associated Press that the floods have left more than 220,000 people homeless over the course of several months. Schools and Cochin International Airport – one of the country's busiest – have been closed because of the disaster.  Many of the victims were killed in mudslides triggered by the heavy rainfall, according to BBC.com.

"We're witnessing something that has never happened before in the history of Kerala," Chief Minister Pinarayi Vijayan told the media. "Almost all dams are now opened. Most of our water treatment plants are submerged, motors are damaged."

Other officials have said this is Kerala's worst flooding since 1924, when more than 11 feet of rain fell during the monsoon and flooded much of the state, India Today reported. India's met department said the state has received nearly 7 feet of rain since June 1, all of which has been attributed to the monsoon season, the report added.


The state is trending some 30 percent above average, and forecasters fear Kerala will approach the 1924 rainfall total before the monsoon season ends in September, India Today also said. With more rain expected, India's met department placed the entire state under a red alert, and state officials held emergency meetings with Prime Minister Narendra Modi late Wednesday night, according to Al Jazeera.

"There are heavy rains every year, but the city has never been flooded so badly," district official Mini Eldho, who left her home in the city of Cochin and fled to a relief camp, told BBC.com.  Since the monsoon season began, more than 1,000 people have died in flooding and mudslides across India.  Kerala state, located in southern India, is home to some 35 million people.
https://weather.com/amp/news/news/2018-08-16-india-monsoon-rains-flooding-kerala.html
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Re: Floods
« Reply #205 on: August 17, 2018, 10:32:18 PM »
Kerala is a beautiful land. High rates of literacy, fine marijuana, and the local hooch (arack, made from coconut milk) is surprisingly palatable. Matriarchal society, and a communist state government.

The one saving grace here is that the people are natural watermen, the land has many rivers, and children grow up as much in the water as out. Even so the death toll is quite horrific.

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Re: Floods
« Reply #206 on: August 18, 2018, 01:13:22 AM »
horrific scenes in Kerala .. latest update .. 930 dead , 300,000 homeless . b.c.
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« Reply #207 on: August 18, 2018, 07:03:59 AM »
To fill in some detail, kerala is a sliver of the south west deccan peninsula facing the arabian sea. There is a ridge five to eight thousand feet parallel to the coast, against which the monsoon hurls itself yearly. Heavy rain is familiar, what set this event apart was the duration.

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Re: Floods
« Reply #208 on: August 18, 2018, 08:19:53 PM »
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/manila-rubbish-waves-monsoon-philippines-city-waste-rubbish-a8496401.html

Waves of rubbish crash into Manila after monsoon washes city garbage into sea
Footage shows tonnes of trash being swept back into coast-side streets
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Re: Floods
« Reply #209 on: August 21, 2018, 02:33:34 AM »
Similarly, from India:

“A friend from Kerala said, as the water recedes, this is how bridges look.. the river has thrown back at us what we have been putting into it for years”
https://twitter.com/tarunsingha/status/1030739617362796544
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« Reply #210 on: August 21, 2018, 03:46:49 AM »
Sadly I suspect that all of that will be unceremoniously tossed back into the river.


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« Reply #211 on: August 24, 2018, 06:58:58 AM »
Just reporting in from visiting family in Saalbach, Austria. After a record hot, dry summer, the promised thunderstorms arrived last night, flooding the valley and destroying stretches of the road; some villages are cut off. Luckily looks like no-one has been injured, at this stage, but numerous hotels must have been inundated along the banks. There are some Youtube videos appearing, like this one:


The damage is largely due to the long hot, dry spell leading to extremely rapid runoff resulting from unusually intense thunderstorms (torrential rain for around 5 hours, lightning everywhere, hail...). Based on how much mud is being carried, there's been a lot of erosion, and probably landslips. More heavy rain is promised for  the next three days, which is going to make rebuilding the road difficult.

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Re: Floods
« Reply #212 on: September 02, 2018, 10:33:03 PM »
"Houston, too close to New Orleans ...."

" ... savoring his $30,000 floodproofing investment ..."

"But if the water that had once sat on the golf course went downstream, where would it end up? "

"He used to work as a seismic engineer in oil and gas ..."

" ... rainfall is up 26 percent over the past 40 years—but runoff is up 204 percent. From 1996 to 2011, impervious surface in Harris County increased by a quarter, and from 1992 to 2010, the area lost almost a third of its wetlands—nearly 16,000 acres."

"Engineers who sign off on developments, assuring the public they will not contribute to flooding, bid for work from developers, who hire engineers who can make things pencil out. "

"the county must find a way to end this cozy relationship between engineers and their dual masters, developers and (according to state licensing) the public."

"Houston’s long-term strategy must simply be to evacuate the 100-year flood plain. It’s the equivalent of demolishing a midsize American city. "

https://slate.com/business/2018/08/houston-one-year-after-hurricane-harvey-is-at-a-crossroads.html

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Re: Floods
« Reply #213 on: September 02, 2018, 11:30:04 PM »
From Weather Underground's Cat 6:
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From the NWS in Houston: "Our local flash flood decision tree is indicating a high risk of flash flooding with maximum rainfall totals by Monday evening between 8-10 inches. What is worrisome is that the TT WRF is showing a boundary and training cells over Galveston/Brazoria and southern Harris counties Monday morning (09-18z). A Flash Flood Watch will be required tonight and Monday for a large part of SE TX."
NOAA's 7-day precipitation projection shows over 7" (18 cm) of rain near Houston.
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Re: Floods
« Reply #214 on: September 05, 2018, 10:12:26 PM »