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Re: Floods
« Reply #450 on: November 26, 2019, 08:50:20 AM »
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« Reply #451 on: December 08, 2019, 08:31:53 AM »
Wild wild weather.

New Zealand storms: tornado warning issued as floods cut off towns
North Island braces for severe storms after landslides and flooding cut communications and close roads in South Island

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/08/new-zealand-storms-tornado-warning-issued-as-floods-cut-off-towns
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Re: Floods
« Reply #452 on: December 19, 2019, 05:43:45 PM »
Saint Petersburg (video).
Storm surge vs the dam. Wind was up to 25-30 m/s this night.

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« Reply #453 on: December 23, 2019, 05:27:06 PM »
U.S.:  Charleston, South Carolina.  Flooding due to off-shore low.

Charleston Weather: "Not usually a fan of showing simulated radar from models here, but this illustrates the scenario pretty well, I feel. Firehose of rain continues into this evening. (GIF via @weathermodels_)”
https://mobile.twitter.com/chswx/status/1209121286246555648
Gif at the link.

Jed Christoph: "Flooded at all the usual spots downtown #chswx ... this video from my friend Jackson Burke is a few blocks down from the intersection of Calhoun and Smith streets. He definitely won’t be making it to work on time today! #turnarounddontdrown #chstrfc #chsnews”
https://mobile.twitter.com/jed_jc2/status/1209091476505997318
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« Reply #454 on: December 26, 2019, 04:40:00 PM »
AFTER THE WATER

When a flash flood ripped through Old Ellicott City in Maryland, U.S., residents thought it was a freak occurrence. Instead, it was a hint about the future. And adapting to that future has been painful.

https://apps.npr.org/ellicott-city/

Events, aftermath, then choosing the next steps to protect their town.
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« Reply #455 on: December 27, 2019, 06:18:55 PM »
^ That's some exceptional photos & videos! ++

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Missouri Fears More Catastrophic Flooding Next spring
https://www.kctv5.com/news/local_news/missouri-fears-of-more-catastrophic-flooding-next-spring/article_1f664264-2897-11ea-ab35-c3e188eb1818.html

Since March, when a "bomb cyclone" hit the upper plains and a 92-year-old dam broke in north-central Nebraska, people living in the Missouri River flood plain have struggled to clean up because so much of the area is still underwater.

In the corner where Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska and Iowa meet, roads are underwater, bridges are out and left in rubble, and ditches and farmland are covered in feet of mud and silt. In Holt County alone, 15,000 acres out of 95,000 total farm land acres are still underwater, Bullock told KCUR-FM.

And there are fears of more flooding next spring.

Kevin Low, a National Weather Service hydrologist with the Missouri Basin River Forecast Center, said the outlook is "grim."

Saturated ground, which will presumably freeze this winter, combined with high-running rivers, could exacerbate the problem, he said. Rivers were at flood stage until mid-December and that also increases the chance of ice jams, he said.

"I don't know that I've seen a worse set-up for flooding potential," ... I would say if we even have a normal precipitation spring we are going to be in trouble," Low said.

... "Especially little counties like us, we don't have the funds to put things back like they need to be," Bullock said. "If we don't get FEMA money, to help us put it back, we're in bad trouble."



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Inquiry Ordered Into Insufficient Insurance for Flood-Hit Homes
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/dec/27/inquiry-ordered-into-insufficient-insurance-for-flood-hit-homes

... Theresa Villiers, the UK environment secretary, said she was commissioning an inquiry into why some flooded communities were unable to get sufficient insurance, despite an agreement between insurers and the government in 2015 that was supposed to mean everyone would have access to affordable coverage.

Boris Johnson has been criticised for failing to visit any of the areas affected in the latest round of flooding. The prime minister spent Christmas in Downing Street with his partner, Carrie Symonds, and the pair are expected to fly to the exclusive private Caribbean island of Mustique to see in the new year.

Areas of southern England and north Lincolnshire are still at risk of groundwater flooding, with 88 warnings still in place and 100 properties having flooded since last Thursday.

Before that, 4,200 homes in South Yorkshire and surrounding counties were flooded during the election campaign in November.

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Re: Floods
« Reply #456 on: December 27, 2019, 10:24:09 PM »
Re:  corner where Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska and Iowa

I went through that area shortly after the floods. The article is right, 2020 might be worse.

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« Reply #457 on: December 29, 2019, 06:23:56 PM »
All up the Missouri watershed through Nebraska and the Dakotas will be flooded even worse than last year, come spring time, for all the same reasons this article mentions.  We were flooded in the spring and never really unflooded in the summer thanks to the wettest year on record in many South Dakota recording stations.  All that water and ground is frozen now, and winter is pummeling us with storm after storm.  When it all melts it will be disastrous.

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« Reply #458 on: December 30, 2019, 04:02:56 PM »
U.S. Seasonal Climate Outlook for Precipitation and Temperature, March-April-May 2020
https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/long_range/seasonal.php?lead=3
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Re: Floods
« Reply #459 on: January 01, 2020, 02:06:39 PM »
Nine Killed as Jakarta Hit by Worst Flooding Since 2013
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-01-01/overnight-rain-triggers-severe-flooding-in-indonesian-capital
https://dw.com/en/indonesia-jakarta-hit-with-deadly-floods/a-51851607
https://phys.org/news/2020-01-dead-indonesian-capital.html

Rains submerged homes and cars and shut one of Jakarta’s airports. More than 700 neighborhoods in greater Jakarta region suffered from power outages, according to state-run electricity company PT Perusahaan Listrik Negara. Commuter trains suspended some operations, said PT Kereta Commuter Indonesia.

... The Jakarta provincial government is prioritizing the safety of residents and instructed schools and some offices to be prepared in providing shelter as the country’s weather agency expects rainfall to continue in the next three days. The death toll was provided by the country’s disaster mitigation agency.

Flights were cancelled at Halim Perdanakusuma airport, which handles commercial and military planes, due to severe flooding on its runways, according to the transport ministry.
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« Reply #460 on: January 03, 2020, 03:12:21 AM »
”This is not ordinary rain.”

Jakarta floods: 02 January 2020
Thousands have been evacuated after flash floods on New Year's Eve
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At least 21 people have died in flooding in the Indonesian capital, Jakarta, after the city had its most intense rainfall for at least 24 years.

The Meteorology, Climatology and Geophysics Agency (BMKG) measured 377mm (14.8 inches) of rainfall in a day at an airport in East Jakarta. That's the most rain in a single day since at least 1996, when records supplied by the agency began.

"The rain falling on New Year's Eve... is not ordinary rain," said the agency. The agency said the intensity of the rain was due to several factors, including the monsoon season, as well as a high amount of water vapour in the air.

At least 62,000 people have been evacuated out of the city. Some people spent the night on the roofs of their buildings while awaiting rescue. The heavy rainfall is expected to continue until the weekend. The electricity has been switched off in many districts of Jakarta as a precaution, and some railway lines are also shut.

I have lived in West Jakarta for seven years. The capital is always prone to floods and no one thought this monsoon season was going to be a big deal.

How wrong everyone was.
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The death toll is the worst since 2013 , when 47 deaths were reported. In 2007, more than 50 were reported killed.
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Jakarta is one of the fastest-sinking cities in the world and experts say it could be entirely submerged by 2050.
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-50969418
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« Reply #461 on: January 12, 2020, 08:05:18 PM »
It’s not just Australia — Indonesia is facing its own climate disaster
https://grist.org/climate/its-not-just-australia-indonesia-is-facing-its-own-climate-disaster/?utm_content=bufferaf707&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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As of Tuesday, the torrential downpours have left at least 67 people dead as rising waters deluged more than 180 neighborhoods and landslides buried at least a dozen Indonesians. Search missions for survivors are still ongoing, and officials say the death toll is expected to rise as more bodies are found.

Indonesia’s national meteorological agency said the rainfall on New Year’s Day was the heaviest downpour in a 24-hour period since Dutch colonists began record-keeping in the 1860s. Although floodwaters are starting to subside, the Indonesian Red Cross Society warned people to expect more severe rainfall in the coming days.

And wastewater, with pathogens, is getting in all that floodwater.

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Re: Floods
« Reply #462 on: January 15, 2020, 04:03:29 PM »
Mississippi River expected to rapidly rise as dam threatens to fail
By Jamiel Lynch and Steve Almasy, CNN - Updated 7:35 AM ET, Wed January 15, 2020
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According to National Weather Service forecasts, the Mississippi River is expected to reach flood stage at the Arkansas City, Arkansas, and Greenville, Vicksburg and Natchez, Mississippi, gages by mid-January.

Extensive rain has extended flood warnings down the banks of the river about 700 miles. Daily rainfall records were broken Tuesday in Jackson, Meridian and Vicksburg, Mississippi. Jackson saw 4.5 inches, breaking the previous record of 1.48, Meridian had 2.06 inches breaking a 1.13 inch record and Vicksburg received 3.5 inches of rain after a .94 inch record.

The Oktibbeha County Lake Dam in eastern Mississippi is in imminent danger of failing and officials are warning residents to be ready to leave, county emergency management Director Kristen Campanella said Tuesday.
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2019 had significant Mississippi River flooding, and it looks like 2020 may be a repeat.
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« Reply #463 on: January 15, 2020, 06:03:00 PM »
Don’t forget, TB, that all that soil is still pretty saturated, so even if rainfall is less than last year the flooding might be even worse.

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« Reply #464 on: January 16, 2020, 03:50:21 PM »
RE Oktibbeha County Lake Dam failure.  Been awhile since camping in MS, I was further south normally, Desoto Natl Forest.  That dam might actually drain into the Pearl River.  Not easy for me to figure out the drainage from that dam. 

That dam was in hideous shape in 2016

https://www.cdispatch.com/news/article.asp?aid=47909
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County Engineer Clyde Pritchard told supervisors Monday.

Another major failure could take a portion of County Lake Road along with it, Pritchard said.

"The dam's in bad shape," he told supervisors as he noted other deficiencies could be discovered along the path. "The next (failure) might not be nice enough to fail at the guardrail. (A failure that takes the road), that's going to be a safety hazard. It might give us a bit of a warning - a crack or pavement settling - but then it might just occur over night."
 

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« Reply #465 on: January 22, 2020, 09:21:24 PM »
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FEMA and the North Dakota State Water Commission will be hosting a series of meetings to inform the public about the potential for 2020 spring flood threats, and steps people can take to prepare themselves and protect their property.

http://www.swc.nd.gov/info_edu/news_and_media/pdfs/2020_01_10_spring_flood_awareness_meetings.pdf

- The three meetings will include presentations from @fema and the @NWS as well as the @USACEHQ at the Jamestown meeting. Information will be provided on dam operations, current flood forecasts, flood preparedness and mitigation tips, and flood insurance.
https://twitter.com/femaregion8/status/1220056439454150656
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« Reply #466 on: January 22, 2020, 09:26:02 PM »
Pumps working to alleviate risk of Oktibbeha dam failure
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STARKVILLE, Miss. (WTVA) - Oktibbeha County EMA officials said they are making progress to reduce pressure on the dam at Oktibbeha County Lake.

Excessive rainfall early last week raised the lake’s water level, putting extra pressure on the dam. To prevent the dam from failing, the county is lowering the lake’s water level. Pumps continue to remove water from the lake.

District 3 Supervisor Marvell Howard said the lake is down 3.5 feet since last Tuesday. Their goal is to lower the water level by 5 feet.

With the additional pumps, Howard said the county’s long-term goal is to drain the lake completely in order to remove an outlet tower. ...
https://www.wlbt.com/2020/01/21/pumps-working-alleviate-risk-oktibbeha-dam-failure/
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« Reply #467 on: February 16, 2020, 09:08:22 AM »

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Re: Floods
« Reply #468 on: February 17, 2020, 12:04:51 AM »
From NWS Jackson MS:

The Pearl River at Jackson is currently at 36.42 ft and rising. This area has not seen the river this high since 1983 (37 years ago).

It is forecast to crest on Monday at 37.5 ft. #PearlFlood2020

https://mobile.twitter.com/NWSJacksonMS/status/1229082100772421633

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« Reply #469 on: February 17, 2020, 08:19:29 PM »
'Historic, unprecedented' flooding swamps southern USA; Mississippi and Tennessee hardest hit
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Jackson [Mississippi] resident Mark Wakefield knows what it takes to rebuild after flooding: His in-laws’ home in Jackson has flooded four times before. The worst was 1979 when the house was 8 feet underwater. The home has flooded again, he said, and this time they might not come back.

“It’s no fun,” Wakefield said. “Once the water’s in the house we’re looking at months of cleanup and reconstruction. It’s nothing life-threatening to us, we’re careful enough ... but it’s just extremely frustrating and disgusting to have to go through this.”

Nearly 2,400 structures across the three Mississippi counties closest to the Pearl River and its Barnett Reservoir – Hinds, Rankin and Madison – could get water indoors or be surrounded by floods, said Malary White, of the Mississippi Emergency Management Agency.

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Long-range flood forecasts issued last week by the National Weather Service said there is an above-average chance of widespread flooding this spring along stretches of the Mississippi River, Missouri River, Red River and other tributaries in the northern and central U.S.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/02/17/mississippi-flooding-swamps-southern-us/4784911002/
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« Reply #471 on: March 23, 2020, 04:45:55 PM »
US Weather Outlook Highlights Spring Flooding Risk
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/03/us-weather-outlook-highlights-spring-flooding-risk/


Minor flooding mainly impacts things like roads, while moderate and major flooding indicates risks to buildings.

... Combined with the outlook for snowmelt and precipitation, NOAA is highlighting flooding risks for about a third of the country, centered on the Mississippi River. There is a possibility of moderate or major flooding—high enough to impact buildings—in several regions including the Dakotas and Minnesota, the southern Missouri River, the upper Mississippi River, and across Alabama, Georgia, and Mississippi.

Drought, on the other hand, is likely to continue or develop from the Four Corners region across to California and up to Washington, as well as in southern Texas. The outlook also shows drought developing in Florida, which largely missed the heavy winter precipitation its northern neighbors received.

The start of spring means most places in the US are thawing out and greening up, but that comes with a new set of seasonal hazards—apart from the pandemic, of course.
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« Reply #472 on: April 05, 2020, 05:39:46 PM »
Bonnet Carre spillway opens for third straight year. Fifth time in last five years (twice in 2019, but not in 2017). Had only opened 10 times from 1937 to 2015. https://www.nola.com/multimedia/photos/collection_70985e02-75d0-11ea-809e-374bef1539c0.html#3

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« Reply #473 on: April 29, 2020, 01:13:38 AM »
This is not getting any coverage internationally, and not even very much in Canada.

Fort McMurray, Alberta faces "1 in 100 year" flood event, caused by an ice jam backing up three rivers. It has lead to the evacuation of about 13,000 people.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/fort-mcmurray-wood-buffalo-flooding-1.5547546

The town, which is located in Alberta's tar sands, was severely damaged by wildfires in 2016.

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« Reply #474 on: April 29, 2020, 01:33:18 AM »
Fires now floods, Fort McMurray is getting a hard time in recent years.

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« Reply #475 on: April 29, 2020, 01:05:58 PM »
Fires now floods, Fort McMurray is getting a hard time in recent years.

This will be true in increasingly more parts of the world. This is climate change. No, this flood is not climate change, but fires, followed by floods, followed by pandemics, followed by more fires in an increasingly catastrophic way.
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« Reply #476 on: May 20, 2020, 02:46:13 AM »
Dam failure in central Michigan (northern US) with another one imminent. Additional flood warnings for east central states.

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« Reply #477 on: May 20, 2020, 04:34:27 AM »
Dam failure in central Michigan (northern US) with another one imminent. Additional flood warnings for east central states.

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2020/05/19/Edenville-Dam-breaks-sparking-immediate-evacuations-in-Michigan/9161589933323/

The Edenville Dam structure broke in Gladwin County, Mich., which sparked immediate evacuations in the area Tuesday evening. Now, the Sanford Dam that is downstream is at risk of failure.

Areas around Midland reported 3 inches to 4 inches of rain since Sunday, which produced a "tremendous" amount of runoff and is causing significant rises on the river system, the National Weather Service said.

The Tittabawassee River in Midland entered major flood stage Tuesday morning when the river was observed at 28.46 feet, according to a Midland County news release. The flood stage is 24 feet, and the river is expected to crest at 30.6 feet early Wednesday before levels start to subside over the next couple of days.

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« Reply #478 on: May 20, 2020, 06:02:50 AM »
More on the Michigan flood:

Video footage of breached dam:
https://twitter.com/UrgentAlertNews/status/1262894788610789377

Outlook:
"The Tittabawassee River in Midland, Michigan is now forecasted to crest at a record height of 38ft. Numerous structures including a Dow Chemical Plant will likely be flooded in the coming hours and days."

https://twitter.com/UrgentAlertNews/status/1262913044809736193

EDIT:
A bridge that the state just purchased off of private owners (with plans to repair) has collapsed.
https://twitter.com/UrgentAlertNews/status/1262906162460209153

Second dam failure imminent:
https://www.ourmidland.com/news/article/Midland-City-residents-near-river-should-evacuate-15281857.php
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« Reply #479 on: May 20, 2020, 06:41:42 AM »
Dam Inundation map: https://twitter.com/highlyanne/status/1262938074117521409 (attached)

A Dow Chemical plant is in the inundation zone: https://twitter.com/highlyanne/status/1262938074117521409
"The plant is within the inundation zone, at least in part. No waste ponds that I see there. But the cogeneration plant has brine ponds labeled on Google Earth. They will also flood."

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« Reply #480 on: May 20, 2020, 10:15:20 PM »
Midland, Michigan and more:

Aging Dams, Changing Climate: A Dangerous Mix | Weather Underground
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The failure of two dams near Midland, Michigan, led to a flooding catastrophe Wednesday—one that highlighted the U.S. peril from the neglect of hundreds of aging dams coupled with the rise in intensified precipitation extremes from human-produced climate change. The collapse of the Edenville Dam on the Tittabawasse River, and the downstream overtopping of the Sanford Dam, led to massive flooding that swamped much of Midland (pop. 42,000) on Wednesday.
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A major Dow Chemical plant in Midland said in a statement that “there were floodwaters commingling with on-site containment ponds” as of 10 am CDT Wednesday. The facility includes a 53-year-old nuclear research reactor that was already closed because of the coronavirus pandemic. See the weather.com article for more on Midland-area flood impacts.

The FEMA catalog of flood policies by county shows that as of Feb. 29, 2020, there were only 337 federal flood insurance policies in effect for all of Midland County. Since only about 5% of U.S. flood policies are from the private sector, this implies that the vast majority of homeowners in Midland County are not flood-insured.

“We need to do a much better job at communicating to U.S. homeowners—before, not during, events—that their standard home insurance policy does not cover flood damage,” tweetedSteve Bowen (Aon).

The perilous state of aging, privately held U.S. dams
A U.S. Corps of Engineers database, the National Inventory of Dams, shows that the Edenville and Sanford dams were both built in 1925 and owned by Boyce Hydro Power (which also owns two other dams on the Tittabawasse River). Both the Edenville and Sanford dams were rated as “high hazard”, meaning that loss of human life is likely were the dam to fail. ...
https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/aging-dams-changing-climate-a-dangerous-mix
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« Reply #481 on: May 21, 2020, 02:41:52 AM »
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« Reply #482 on: May 21, 2020, 11:48:38 AM »
Midland, Michigan and more:

Aging Dams, Changing Climate: A Dangerous Mix | Weather Underground
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The failure of two dams near Midland, Michigan, led to a flooding catastrophe Wednesday—one that highlighted the U.S. peril from the neglect of hundreds of aging dams coupled with the rise in intensified precipitation extremes from human-produced climate change.
https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/aging-dams-changing-climate-a-dangerous-mix

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Many years ago I worked in an extremely impoverished ex Portuguese colony. Things often didn't work. When asked why, the standard answer was, yes, you've guessed it "Lacks Maintenance".
The country got loads of multilateral development assistance - but not one cent for maintenance. e.g. Shiny air-conditioned new schools, but no money for electricity, and no money for books.

In the US ageing dams can now be added to the "falta manutenção" list, that includes:
- roads,
- bridges,
- public hospitals,
- public schools,
- flood defences,
- gas pipelines,
- water systems,
- electricity grid.

Taxes in mainland Europe are much higher than in the USA, but not purely to give the undeserving poor handouts. Some goes to maintaining the infrastructure on which the economic, physical and social well-being of countries depend. The UK in recent years has done its best to catch up with the US in implementing "falta manutenção".

There is now loads of blah blah about developing resilience to combat the effects of climate change, and the opportunity for a post-covid green new deal. The dam failures are just another example of the way climate change is going to expose to daylight the rotten state of so much of that on which we depend.
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Re: Floods
« Reply #483 on: May 21, 2020, 12:56:41 PM »
In the case of the Michigan dam inadequacy, the dams are not even owned by the public.

https://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw-bay-city/2020/05/troubled-dam-breaks-sends-floodwaters-hurtling-toward-midland.html

The problem in the US is near complete regulatory capture and lack of ownership / responsibility for public welfare. The problems with the Edenville Dam were well documented, but the buck doesn't stop anywhere.

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« Reply #485 on: May 23, 2020, 07:54:57 PM »
In the case of the Michigan dam inadequacy, the dams are not even owned by the public.

https://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw-bay-city/2020/05/troubled-dam-breaks-sends-floodwaters-hurtling-toward-midland.html

The problem in the US is near complete regulatory capture and lack of ownership / responsibility for public welfare. The problems with the Edenville Dam were well documented, but the buck doesn't stop anywhere.
Sometimes it feels like that as we learn more & more about what needs fixing the less we are able to fix it.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/may/23/us-dams-michigan-report-infrastructure

Thousands of run-down US dams would kill people if they failed, study finds
17% of 91,000 US dams classified with ‘high hazard’ potential

Neglected infrastructure in focus after Michigan dam failures


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« Reply #486 on: May 23, 2020, 08:45:46 PM »
Privatise the profits Socialise the losses.
Socialism for the crony capitalists who have purchased the USA.
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« Reply #487 on: June 13, 2020, 06:23:44 PM »
At Least 18 Dead, 8 Missing in China Flooding
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Some 13,000 people were evacuated and more than 2,000 homes damaged in Zunyi in this week's round of rainstorms, a statement on the government's website said. Multiple sections of roads and three bridges were destroyed.

Guangxi’s crucial tourism sector, already hit hard by the coronavirus pandemic, has been set back further by the floods. The region is home to the city of Guilin, famous for its landscape of karst rock formations.

Seasonal flooding regularly strikes the lower regions of China’s major river systems, particularly those of the Yangtze and the Pearl to the south.

Authorities have sought to mitigate flooding through the construction of dams, such as the massive Three Gorges structure on the Yangtze. 
https://weather.com/news/news/2020-06-13-china-flooding-rain-storms-damage
Image below.

Video: the seasonal Meiyu Front explained
Meiyu Front Brings Flooding Rain to Southern China
https://weather.com/news/weather/video/meiyu-front-brings-flooding-rain-to-southern-china

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Video: Flash Flooding in Corsica Sweeps Away Cars, Damages Buildings
The monthly average of one inch of rain fell in one hour.
https://weather.com/news/weather/video/flash-flooding-in-corsica-sweeps-away-cars-damages-buildings
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« Reply #489 on: June 29, 2020, 01:29:10 PM »
The UK in recent years has done its best to catch up with the US in implementing "falta manutenção".

There is now loads of blah blah about developing resilience to combat the effects of climate change, and the opportunity for a post-covid green new deal. The dam failures are just another example of the way climate change is going to expose to daylight the rotten state of so much of that on which we depend.

The weekends downpours across Yorkshire, UK, again has me thinking of the issues our 'Flood Alleviation Works' will cause for the communities downstream of us that have had no such 'preparations' put in place for either increased rainfall events or the increase in flow that our works will feed into the channels downstream?

With the loss of the E.U. 'Regional Development Fund' to help with costs, augmented by the economic pressures our leaving the E.U. appears to have in store for us in the UK, I find it hard to envisage how works to beef up existing defences can occur...... no matter the needs of the communities impacted?
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« Reply #490 on: June 29, 2020, 04:27:35 PM »
Lots of flooding around Minnesota and Wisconsin, with some areas reportedly getting 9 inches (23 c) over night
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« Reply #491 on: July 12, 2020, 09:27:55 PM »

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« Reply #493 on: July 14, 2020, 07:08:42 PM »

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« Reply #494 on: July 14, 2020, 07:54:52 PM »
http://floodlist.com/ from Copernicus has got just about everything

e.g. http://floodlist.com/asia has reports from Turkey, NE India, Malaysia, Nepal, Indonesia, China, Mongolia, etc etc all in the last week or two.

& reports on studies, e.g.

http://floodlist.com/europe/report-floods-europe-increase-fivefold-2050
Report – Flood Losses in Europe to Increase Fivefold by 2050


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« Reply #495 on: July 21, 2020, 06:45:11 PM »
Worst Flooding in Decades Raises Concerns Over China’s Three Gorges Dam
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/worst-flooding-in-decades-raises-concerns-over-chinas-three-gorges-dam-11595337875

Water level in giant dam’s reservoir rises above flood-limit level after two months of heavy rain; 40 million people affected

BEIJING—Two months of unusually powerful rains in central and southern China have swelled the Yangtze River, triggering the worst flooding in decades and raising concerns about the Three Gorges Dam, the world’s largest hydroelectric facility.

Last week, several days of fresh rain brought the water level at the dam, located several hundred miles upstream from Wuhan in central Hubei province, to its highest point since construction was completed in 2009.

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Record China Flooding Impacts PPE Supply Chain to US
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/07/19/weather/china-flood-ppe-supply-chain/index.html

Residents of Wuhan, China stayed indoors last week not because of another lockdown posed by a reemerging coronavirus threat, but because the worst flooding in decades has threatened their city.

The flooding is also impacting US supply chains for personal protective equipment, crucial to fighting the pandemic.

Wuhan, the epicenter of the novel coronavirus, sits along the banks of the Yangtze River, where water levels reached their fourth-highest in recorded history.

West of Wuhan in Xiantao, sits China's largest manufacturer of nonwoven fabrics used in the production of PPE. Torrential rain has created additional barriers for exporting goods, including PPE, as some shipments may be delayed by up to three weeks, according to a report from Reuters.

"It's just creating another major roadblock here in terms of PPE getting into the United States -- it is the worst of times for it to happen but that's what we're dealing with right now," Michael Einhorn, president of Dealmed, told Reuters. Dealmed sources disposable lab coats and other products from Wuhan and nearby regions.

... According to state news agency Xinhua, flooding through last week had caused 82.23 billion yuan ($11.76 billion USD) of economic losses in China.

More flooding rain is in the forecast as an unusually strong, stationary weather boundary continues to dump additional precipitation over already ravaged areas.
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« Reply #496 on: July 21, 2020, 06:51:25 PM »
that's better than my post would have been .. rain is practically continuous from Nepal via China and Japan then all the way to W. Canada .. with some spinning into the Arctic . Just caught the news that a major dam was opened 24 hours ago to flood a huge area of central China to reduce/delay the impact further east . Flood warning raised today to red . b.c.
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« Reply #497 on: July 21, 2020, 07:44:32 PM »
Great minds think alike!   ;)
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« Reply #498 on: July 24, 2020, 11:32:46 PM »
Interesting article about strategies to respond to the increasing threat of heavy precipitation. Not really something new, but I think that it is worth to read.

https://www.yaleclimateconnections.org/2020/07/could-leaving-room-for-the-river-help-protect-communities-from-floods/
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« Reply #499 on: July 25, 2020, 07:42:38 PM »
 A few days ago, officials admitted that certain “peripheral” structures of the massive Three Gorges Dam deformed due to the building water pressure.
Stunning pictures of water being released to relieve pressure are raising the specter of whether the entire dam could fail (some good photos here). Some online satellite photos purporting to show the buckling of the dam, however, should be viewed with skepticism.

Still, the damage that has already occurred from the record deluge is significant, with numerous cities upriver from the dam already flooded. According to the Wall Street Journal:

    Some 40 million people in more than two dozen provinces have been affected by the flooding as of July 12, causing more than 80 billion yuan ($11.5 billion) of direct damage to the economy, according to China’s Ministry of Emergency Management. Around 28,000 homes have collapsed, while millions have been displaced and at least 141 people have been declared dead or missing in the floods.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-risks-of-chinas-three-gorges-dams-flooding/