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Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« Reply #4900 on: December 11, 2018, 07:27:19 AM »
“Nobody in the world” should be afraid of the presence of Russian bombers in Venezuela because Caracas and Moscow “are builders of peace, not war,” Venezuelan Defense Minister, Vladimir Padrino Lopez said as cited by local El Universal paper.

A nice Orwellian phrase from the ministry of peace.  ::)
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« Reply #4901 on: December 11, 2018, 08:05:02 AM »
Isn't just.  :-\



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« Reply #4902 on: December 11, 2018, 09:05:36 AM »
Ooo, look! Russians ! They're behind the sans-culottes !

https://www.rt.com/news/446085-russian-influence-yellow-vests/

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« Reply #4903 on: December 11, 2018, 10:42:06 PM »
.....Caracas and Moscow “are builders of peace, not war,” .....
A nice Orwellian phrase from the ministry of peace. 
The propaganda was such a nice phrase that Convair called their cold war B-36 nuclear bomber from the 50's the "Peacemaker",  the prop including actor Jimmy Stewart:


The propaganda was so good that the U.S. developed the double sonic nuke bomber B-58, a large, cool looking F-106 on steroids. But the B-58 had problems & would only arrive at its target late (or probably wouldn't), in time only to stir the rubble that nuke ICBMs had already destroyed.
Anyhow, the U.S. Air Force generals, after 20 years of war game over-thinking, surmised that a nuke rubble-stirrer was a good idea. The 1970's B-1, B-1A, & B-1B were the new tech B-58, refurbished.
Now, back to the original story. Over-thinking Russian generals convinced themselves that Russia needed a rubble-stirrer too, thus the Tu-160. However, the Tu-160 is bigger, faster & has longer range than the B-1B. That's why the russians can fly all the way to Venezuela (maybe they got a drink of fuel from the accompanying An-124?).
Yeah, the Tu-160 does double duty..... as a rubble stirrer & good-looking headline maker.

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Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« Reply #4904 on: December 12, 2018, 09:44:01 PM »
The propaganda was such a nice phrase that Convair called their cold war B-36 nuclear bomber from the 50's the "Peacemaker",  the prop including actor Jimmy Stewart:

remember the first of it's kind that was a COLT "peacemaker" with very similar effects (somehow)
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« Reply #4905 on: December 15, 2018, 12:38:04 PM »
.....Convair...B-36 nuclear bomber "Peacemaker".......
....... COLT "peacemaker"......
The Colt made millions of "dead pieces" & never made peace. The jury is still debating about nukes. With authoritarian dictators (including "don'T rump") believing their self-righteousness, a final nuclear judgement will come, before the jury can huddle & quiver in the corner.

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Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« Reply #4906 on: December 15, 2018, 03:54:50 PM »
I'm still with Paul Jay:



Some quotes:

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We should not buy into feeding the chauvinist hysteria against Russia, which feels, you know, as I say, bringing up the ghosts of the Cold War. Russia is a mid-sized capitalist country; has an autocratic government that mostly came into being because the Soviet economy after 1990 was demolished, and to a large extent facilitated by the United States, that loved the idea of the rise of these oligarchs. So it’s a state that the Americans had a hand in creating. And yeah, it’s a competitor on the global stage. But it’s not an existential threat. And who is it a competitor with? It’s a competitor with the American oligarchy. It’s not a competitor with the American people.

(...)

When this thing first broke out, I said we should not side with either oligarchy. I don’t side with the Russian oligarchy and I don’t side with the American oligarchy. We the people here, we’ve got to deal with the American oligarchy, and I hope the Russian people deal with the Russian oligarchy.

(...)

It’s become a way to bring down Trump. So as a political story, sure it’s a good story. But it’s a political story because of the partisan politics of it, and the split within the American state; the fact that the FBI and sections of the American state want to bring down Trump. But to feed the idea that Russia is this existential threat that wants to take over the world, that we’re defending the world, we’re defending democracy from this big bad enemy, that’s all BS, and we should say so. And then after that, sure, let’s cover the Mueller investigation.

(...)

This is a global system. A capitalist global system, oligarchs in various countries, whose interests converge and diverge. Sometimes they diverge so much they go to war, and who pays the price? Working people with those countries. And then they converge again. So I mean, Germany, that was the great enemy for two great wars, is now the great ally. And who knows? Ten years of depression and the rise of a far-right nationalist government in Germany, it could happen again.

I mean, you know, the bottom line is us the people can’t think we’re in the same boat of the oligarchs. That’s what happened before World War One. Whole sections of the left started to support their own oligarchs, their own capitalist class, and rooted on World War I. We can’t fall into that.

(...)

The military Budget in this country is over a trillion dollars in reality. They say $700-800 billion. But it’s really over a trillion when you look at the pockets of money that are squirreled away for nuclear and Secret Service stuff, and all the rest. That’s money that should be paying for a Green New Deal. That’s money that should be paying for public education. You can’t justify the pillaging of the public treasury for the sake of this kind of arms buildup without an enemy. So you got to–you know, it’s critical that the kind of chauvinism that’s being built around this issue is separate it from the political story, the corruption story, even the election meddling story. It’s the–it’s very, very important that we–especially people that consider themselves progressives–don’t allow the Russiaphobia to take over the story. Then sure, go to town.

(...)

We don’t know that the Muellers stuff is going to turn out to BS. It may turn out that all the accusations are true. And I’ve been saying from the beginning, if they’re all true, it’s still small stuff. It’s minor stuff. In the scheme of what issues really face us as a people, this is such, such little stuff. They always interfere in each other’s elections. Everybody plays for their advantage. They all influence whatever they can. I mean, the Americans overtly trying to bring down governments in Venezuela and, and other parts of Latin America. It goes on and on.

This is normal, global capitalist system stuff. The Americans–the only reason it’s becoming this kind of issue, just to say it again, partisan advantage. It goes to the heart of the military-industrial complex narrative that we have an existential threat, and you’ve got to spend a trillion dollars a year.
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Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« Reply #4907 on: December 15, 2018, 09:05:22 PM »
.....Convair...B-36 nuclear bomber "Peacemaker".......
....... COLT "peacemaker"......
The Colt made millions of "dead pieces" & never made peace. The jury is still debating about nukes. With authoritarian dictators (including "don'T rump") believing their self-righteousness, a final nuclear judgement will come, before the jury can huddle & quiver in the corner.

after all law and order prevailed to a certain extent and as far as i know the sheriffs had those as well, hence if someone really wants to debate whether nukes make peace ( postpone war and give fundamental destruction more time to evolve IMO) then the colt made peace even more because that result is already final and documented while the day we know about the nukes for sure it will be the answer we least need while as long as we don't have a final answer we can discuss something we only know the hard way one day in the future or never (let's say very very far future)
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Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« Reply #4908 on: December 15, 2018, 11:30:47 PM »
An extension of the TRNN interview with Paul Jay above:

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« Reply #4909 on: December 16, 2018, 12:52:47 AM »
As the full extent of Russia's interference in the 2016 election is revealed to congressional investigators by Google's CEO, the $4,700 is compared to the $1.6 Billion raised for the Democratic candidate by Google employees and executives.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-13/google-ceo-exposes-shocking-full-extent-russian-meddling-2016

I wonder what the party will run on in 2020?
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« Reply #4910 on: December 21, 2018, 03:16:09 AM »
Jimmy Dore and crew tear the NYTs a new one - Russia Controls African Americans’ Minds Says NY Times
"Get this headline from The New York Times - Russia's 2016 influence operation targeted African-Americans on social media."

"It's not stopping. I thought that this would stop. It's not."

"Oh my god. They're blizzarding with energy and imagination over well an effort to sway American opinion and divide the country which the report authors say continues to this day."

"We're helpless. Russia is running us. We just admit it. We're helpless. We can't do anything in
America"

22 minutes taking the piss out of the NYTs, the US Military and others. Sock Puppet to me Baby!



Jimmy in closing: "You suck! And now you know why people get their news from Youtube."

In other related news sources:

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President Putin's end of year press conference 3hrs 40mins
TEXT http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/59455
VIDEO [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdqhYU1dfeM]

Russia's state-run (SIC it's no different to BBC/CBC/ABC being publicly funded) broadcaster  RT broke Britain's broadcasting code in its reporting about the March poisoning of a Russian former spy in England, Britain's media regulator says.

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Ofcom said on December 20 that RT broke impartiality rules in seven programs broadcast over a six-week period in March-April, calling them "a serious failure of compliance." It said the TV station failed to give due weight to a wide range of voices on a matter of major political controversy. The watchdog said it was considering a "statutory sanction," which could range from a fine to a license suspension.

RT said it was "extremely disappointed by Ofcom's conclusions."
https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-news-channel-rt-broke-impartiality-rules-u-k-regulator-says/29667828.html
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KYIV – Ukraine’s parliament has approved a bill that would force the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate (UOC-MP) to change its name.
The proposed law would require a religious organization whose governing center is based in a country waging war against Ukraine or occupying Ukrainian territory to change its name to reflect its affiliation. The bill would force the UOC-MP, which remains subordinate to Russia, to add "Russian" to its name.
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-lawmakers-ok-law-to-rename-moscow-loyal-orthodox-church/29667780.html
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Russian President Vladimir Putin said he was worried by what he described as democratic values falling apart in the "Anglo-Saxon world."
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-putin-saxons/29667458.html

As an old movie said "It's a mad, mad, mad, mad world."
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« Reply #4911 on: December 21, 2018, 07:04:53 AM »
A report of the White Helmets in Syria
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« Reply #4912 on: December 21, 2018, 02:03:49 PM »
(apparently) Russian operatives were promoting sex toys on Instagram to sow discord in the US
By Hanna Kozlowska December 18, 2018
https://qz.com/1498265/instagram-was-a-massively-important-tool-for-russian-operatives/

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/us/alabama-senate-roy-jones-russia.html

Gets funnier and funnier ... copy to social media threads :)

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How deep does Russiagate go? According to an NSA-linked research firm, Russian trolls penetrated American democracy by promoting dildos on Instagram. The Pearl Harbor-like attack on the US homeland has left Twitter shaking.

The Internet Research Agency (IRA), a St. Petersburg-based troll farm allegedly financed by the Kremlin and accused of meddling in the 2016 presidential election, promoted “LGBT-positive sex toys” on Instagram as part of its nefarious plot to “sow discord” in the US, according to a new report detailing the infinite terrors of Russian disinformation.

    When "Not the Onion:" can't do it anywhere close to justice: https://t.co/ztTXIft5ZO
    — Aaron Maté (@aaronjmate) December 20, 2018

New Knowledge, the private research firm caught manufacturing a fictitious “Russian troll” army to swing Alabama’s 2017 Senate race, disclosed the unsettling – but also delightfully titillating – detail in its 100-page report about the “tactics and tropes” used by the IRA. This is the smoking dildo that ‘woke’ #Resisters have been yearning for.

However, it’s not clear how deep this explosive sex-toy conspiracy goes: New Knowledge suggests the adult merchandise may have “provided the IRA with a source of revenue” – but no sales data exist. Ryan Mac, BuzzFeed’s tech reporter, wrote that “while it’s currently unknown if the IRA was actually selling sex toys, the fact that they were promoting them shows the org’s desire to build credibility in the LGBT community.”
https://www.rt.com/usa/447118-sex-toys-russiagate-russia-instagram/

I kid you not! So how "dumb" is this all going to get before it stops?

Yeah well, I am really sorry the IRA "troll farm" was only ever a money making spamming enterprise for selling products online using "faked up" Facebook accounts -- some of these types have even been advertising via RTs website. Total flakes, very manipulative bordering on "fraudulent" definitely "false advertising" or at least spin advertising techniques.

Pity. The conspiracy was ever so much more "exciting and titillating"  (sic).

Russians are not the only ones using multiple ID fake facebook accounts -- it's Facebooks primary Advertising MODEL no less .... same with all the other pinterest, instagram and soon enough twitter too. "Spamming" techniques work. It's all about access and volume..... which works by riding on the the most popular themes of the day. Simple really. 
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« Reply #4913 on: December 21, 2018, 05:49:39 PM »
Lurk
It appears that you may be guilty of participating in Putin's Humor Offensive.
My sincere apologies if your attempt was mere titillation.
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« Reply #4914 on: December 21, 2018, 09:59:45 PM »
Russian bots that disrupted American election identified by NYT

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-20/democrats-orchestrated-elaborate-false-flag-operation-posing-russian-bots-during

It turns out that they were just Democrats spending $100,000 linking Roy Moore to fake Russian bots.
While I suppose it's all legal, it certainly lowers the bar and begs us to question the stories that MSM has been breathlessly (and baselessly?) feeding us.

Democrats spend $100,000 aimed at influencing the outcome of an election.
Russians spend $4,700 trying to sell dildos during the election cycle.

I wonder how much Mueller has spent trying to discover why Hillary lost "her" election?
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« Reply #4915 on: December 21, 2018, 11:27:40 PM »
This stuff gets more crazy by the day...  ???
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« Reply #4916 on: December 22, 2018, 12:46:28 AM »
This stuff gets more crazy by the day...  ???

You asked elsewhere what to do about social media?

If it was up to me, I'd shut down the entire Internet. People would go back to being human beings again. Talking to people at banks and going to dances to meet up. The liars, the bullies, the gouging profiteers, the criminals, the disordered lunatics, and the abusers of power in corrupt institutions would be all cut off at the knees. The world would be a much better, much nicer, much safer, more sane and more caring, loving place to live in.
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« Reply #4917 on: December 22, 2018, 01:26:24 AM »
Outfoxed by the bear? America’s Losing Game Against Russia in the Near East
By:  Michael  A. Reynolds - a Senior Fellow in the Foreign Policy Research Institute’s Program on the Middle East  and an  Associate  Professor  in  Princeton’s  Department  of  Near  Eastern  Studies  where  he  teaches  courses  on  modern Middle Eastern and Eurasian history, comparative empire, military and ethnic conflict, and secularism.
https://www.fpri.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Reynolds2018.pdf

via Harvard Belfer centre & Carnegie "Russia Matters"

In 2007, Russian President Vladimir Putin’s famous Munich speech took stock of what Russia considered the failure of the post-Cold War détente with the West, specifically NATO’s eastward expansion and a European security architecture that excluded Russia. Today, almost 12 years later, Moscow is more isolated from its Western counterparts than at any time since the early 1980s, but also the most active and visible on the non-Western international scene that it’s been since then. This is no accident: In the atmosphere of deteriorated trust with the West, Moscow has progressively built a dual strategy of isolation and “Reconquista”—seeing and portraying itself at once as beleaguered and newly triumphant, a beacon of hope for those disappointed with the U.S.-led world order.
https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/isolation-and-reconquista-russias-toolkit-constrained-great-power
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« Reply #4918 on: December 22, 2018, 01:32:24 AM »
No, I don't think it will ever stop.

    FACT: @BBC goons (working with @ofcom) censored and re-edited my show (there) many times. Our BBC exec. Paul Gibbs told me, “BBC is state run telly, get used to it. The pretense of ‘impartiality’ is a farce.” No such problems with @RT_com https://t.co/mRAKkb1o4V
    — Max Keiser [Jan/3🔑] (@maxkeiser) December 21, 2018

Was ‘Institute for Statecraft’ behind Ofcom’s targeting of RT? Sleuths point to yes

 Documents that show the shadowy UK outfit ‘Institute for Statecraft’ previously filed complaints to Ofcom about RT raise the question if the impetus for the regulator’s most recent actions against RT came from the same source.

On Thursday, Ofcom announced it had found RT in breach of UK impartiality rules in seven instances, going back to March and April this year.

“RT is extremely disappointed by Ofcom's conclusions in what were almost all self-initiated investigations into RT by the regulator,” the network said in response.

Ofcom makes it public when a broadcast receives ten or more more complaints. Yet the purported complaints about RT shows are nowhere to be seen on its website, as former Scotland Yard detective Charles Shoebridge points out.

    It’s perhaps significant to note that @Ofcom lists programmes receiving ten or more complaints. No @RT_com broadcasts are listed, so its investigation was launched despite only a very small number of people having complained (see Audience Complaints: 2018)https://t.co/1O67P3FMZE
    — Charles Shoebridge (@ShoebridgeC) December 20, 2018

Shoebridge then did some old-fashioned detective work, and found that Ofcom might have actually received external complaints about RT – but not from members of the British public, but a government sock-puppet, the “Institute for Statecraft.” That shadowy outfit was recently unmasked by a trove of leaked documents, published by a group claiming to be the hacker collective Anonymous.
https://www.rt.com/news/447183-integrity-initiative-ofcom-rt/

also avail via UK news and twitter.

    Leaked docs show a function of the UK govt funded #IntegrityInitiative covert influence operation is to make @Ofcom complaints about @RT_com. This raises questions of where the very few complaints re RT (see tweet above) came fromhttps://t.co/VWZ2XtuVlb
    + https://t.co/DLxTVZ5tcIpic.twitter.com/wLxNvN9j2f
    — Charles Shoebridge (@ShoebridgeC) December 20, 2018


    Was @ofcom's report on @RT_com triggered by complaints filed by a propaganda mill covertly operated and funded by the UK's military and intelligence services? https://t.co/vW0kh017VM
    — Max Blumenthal (@MaxBlumenthal) December 20, 2018

    This is a big story, but only the tip of the iceberg, I’m sure. A UK govt (FCO) funded body forwarding complaints to @ofcom in 2016 and requesting that the media regulator launches a formal investigation into a tv station (@RT_com ) which hosts dissident views. cc @DerbyChrisWpic.twitter.com/iT3hXOfvgS
    — Neil Clark (@NeilClark66) December 20, 2018
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« Reply #4919 on: December 24, 2018, 08:20:21 AM »
An unusually long in depth article by RT

Integrity Initiative is the biggest story of 2018 – but not because of anything it did
Published time: 23 Dec, 2018
https://www.rt.com/news/447256-integrity-initiative-psyops-establishment-media/

Could easily fit in the The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism thread
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« Reply #4920 on: January 05, 2019, 10:20:34 AM »
New material keeps arising out of the Integrity Initiative drama.

for example:
Documents obtained and published by the hackers also show connections between Skripal’s recruiter and neighbor Pablo Miller, the Institute for Statecraft, and the so-called rescue group White Helmets, created in militant-held areas of Syria by a former British official in 2013.

and

    So: #IntegrityInitiative funded by the British Govt called for the arrest of people like me like @afshinrattansi @JohnWight1 @NeilClark66 et al in the event of an “incident” like the #Skripal affair. Written incidentally before the #Salisbury events. Makes you think...@RT_com
    — George Galloway (@georgegalloway) January 4, 2019

Previously published documents have revealed the Initiative and the Institute as being involved in widespread propaganda operations targeting not only foreign countries and media outlets – as one might expect from someone doing the bidding of the Foreign Office – but also domestic political figures, such as Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn.

https://www.rt.com/news/448103-integrity-initiative-new-documents/

Overlords recent hacking release of 9/11 documents sounds very, no, extremely interesting as well --- it's a new way of doing things which monetizes Wikileaks' MO. At least that material won't be blaming Russia or Donald Trumps hair for what happened. ;)
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« Reply #4921 on: January 09, 2019, 06:36:57 AM »
The "Integrity Initiative" and more

Maybe this 'subject' will need a new thread of it's own one day, but until then it very much is about Russia "hysteria/accusations" in this case by the UK secret services and their interrelationships with matters such as the Skripals case and similarities to the 2016 US elections Mueller inquiry.

From where I sit however I see this activity is very much all connected and interrelated - iow it is one issue, one subject, one coordinated activity globally - merely different arms of the one Octopus at work - as such the following threads all belong together under ONE SUBJECT:

1) Russia, Russia, Russia (incl. Syria/Iran)
2) The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
3) The problem of Corporate Democrats and how to kick them out
4) Empire - America and the future
5) Political theatre/wrestling (aka Mueller/Wikileaks/2016 Elections)
6) Elections 2018 USA
7) The Trump Presidency
8 ) Ukraine, Nazis and western support
9) The problem of social media
10) Elections 2020 USA
11) Russia in Ukraine (Crimea)
12) Human Stupidity (Human Mental Illness)

What should be obvious already is that until ALL the Above is "exposed", "solved" and "resolved" then next to nothing significant will ever be done collectively globally to address the fundamental causes of Global Warming, Emissions Reductions and long term solving of Climate Change dangers directly ahead.

The TWO SUBJECTS cannot be separated - because it all comes back to CORE VALUES, PRINCIPLES, JUSTICE, OPENNESS, & INTEGRITY of the very same players involved in both.
All are key character aspects sorely lacking in our current Global Leadership circles.
 
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The following info (to peruse at your leisure) digs a little deeper in some respects, please check prior posts above for more info if you're not yet aware of the UK based Integrity Initiative saga.


Moderate Rebels episode 32: Journalists Max Blumenthal and Ben Norton discuss Britain's Integrity Initiative and the information war it is waging on the public, with propaganda expert Professor David Miller. We address the scandal surrounding this UK government-funded think tank, which has attacked Jeremy Corbyn and the anti-war left and laundered disinformation through the corporate media under the guise of countering Russia.
58 min discussion





Around The Empire Published on 30 Dec 2018 1 hour  + 1 hour
Temple of Covert Propaganda (Part 1) feat Mohamed Elmaazi

In this two-part series investigative journalist Mohamed Elmaazi joins us from London. Mohamed has been working on what is potentially one of the most explosive international scandals in recent years. Hacked documents have exposed a secretive “charity” think tank, the Institute for Statecraft, which is funded by the British Foreign Office, the US State Department, NATO, Facebook, a neoconservative foundation and others.
Mohamed located their London office in a neo-gothic mansion, Two Temple Place, and later accompanied a British MP on an unwelcome visit. One of the Institute for Statecraft’s projects, The Integrity Initiative, possibly a front for military intelligence, is a covert propaganda network of politicians, journalists, academics, researchers and military officers engaged in smearing political leaders and interfering in the affairs of other allied governments.

Part 1 of 2 - 1 hour with Website Reference Links: in the 'See More' info section


Part 2 of 2 - 1 hour URL
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4CpZeyBmys]



Original Announcement 24 Nov 2018 - “Integrity Initiative” Exposed as UK Special Ops vs EU Countries. Message from The ANONYMOUS Charity -  5 mins
For now, Britain is capable of conducting such operations in the following states: Spain, France, Germany, Italy, Greece, The Netherlands, Lithuania, Norway, Serbia and Montenegro.
London’s near-term plans to create similar clusters include Latvia, Estonia, Portugal, Sweden, Belgium, Canada, Armenia, Ukraine, Moldova, Malta, Czechia, countries of the Middle East and North Africa, Poland, Slovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, Georgia, Hungary, Cyprus, Austria, Switzerland, Turkey, Finland, Iceland, Denmark, and the USA.
All the work is done under absolute secrecy via concealed contacts in British embassies, which gives rise to more suspicion that Britain uses plausible excuse to create a global system of information influence and political interference into affairs of other countries.





FOR HISTORICAL CONTEXT & PERSPECTIVE via Jimmy Dore and The Guardian from a 2011 report:
 
Revealed: U.S. Intel/Military/Spy Operation Manipulating Social Media! 13 mins
Automated software creates FAKE User profiles on Facebook and other Social Media platforms to promote and spread Pro-American Propaganda in other nations around the world.

The key question is : "The Innocent Victim OR the Original and the Best Perpetrator?"

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Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« Reply #4922 on: January 09, 2019, 07:06:28 AM »
George Galloway opens 2019 by talking about the Integrity Initiative, Russia and Fat Cat Friday

Transcript intro: 
2:00 ..... but now that I've got your attention let me inform you that the Integrity Initiative called for my arrest and the arrest of people like me!

They did so in a document written before the Skripal events but they predicted such an event or events and said that in the event of such an event or events every Russian agent should be immediately arrested not least their court agents of influence (unquote).

And which agents of influence did they court - yours truly and a good friend of mine Neal Clark - if he's listening might want to call us up because it seems it's been a narrow escape we might actually have been arrested at the behest of our government-funded Integrity Initiative
- the Temple of Integrity no less, so-called because it occupies the building beautifully constructed by the man who designed the Waldorf Astoria in London's Temple District which they
occupy rent and rates free at least in their accounts that they submit to the Foreign Office which have also been dumped. 

There's no provision for rent or rates so someone somewhere is a Grace and Favor Landlord for the Integrity Initiative much more importantly than threatening to arrest people like me and Neal Clark there's further evidence of a government funded attempt to undermine the leader of the Opposition in Parliament the right honourable Jeremy Corbyn PC MP - the leader of Her Majesty's
Loyal Opposition - being undermined by an Integrity Initiative funded by the Government he's opposing and indeed the Queen requires him to oppose otherwise we have no Democratic System at all.

The one thing that shocks me more than seeing my name in these papers is the fact that not a single Journalist in Britain gives a toss. Not a single one of them will give a toss. None of them will report it. None of them will ask me for a comment. That is the Briton we're living in in 2019.




On a side (but fundamental) issue for all George goes on to point out yet again:

6:15 - Now it's well-known to regular listeners I'm a follower not of Marx, not of Lenin, but of
Aristotle!
Aristotle's view that the richest in society should be no more than three times richer than the poorest for the perfect equilibrium in society is something that I support.
Not tomorrow or the day after but that ought to be the direction of travel. That's what I say. What do you say?
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Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« Reply #4923 on: January 09, 2019, 07:24:44 AM »
Professor David Miller gets reported on by Russia Today .... no other Fourth Estate MSM seem to think it's a "story" worth sharing with The People.

‘They made a mess & are fighting fires’: UK academic says Integrity Initiative fatally hurt by leaks - Published time: 8 Jan, 2019

 Despite being ignored by Western media, leaks from Integrity Initiative have paralyzed the operations of this UK-funded covert influence network, and could lead to its dismantling, says a leading British academic.

“This has made a mess of [Integrity Initiative’s] operations, they are spending most of their time now trying to fire-fight on the coverage this is getting. And they are not doing essentially what they are being paid to do, which is to counter the Russians,” David Miller, Professor of Political Sociology at the University of Bristol School for Policy Studies, told RT.

“The British government is getting bad value for money, if it was ever getting better value.”

As part of the Working Group on Syria, Propaganda and Media, which studies Western attempts to control media coverage of key international events, Miller has played a crucial role in studying the four tranches of data anonymously uploaded and sourced from the previously little-known group, which has been backed by the UK Foreign Office, NATO and Facebook, to the tune of over £1 million per year.

“Most of the people named are trying to pretend that this is not all of great significance, but the revelation of the involvement of the government in manipulating other countries, and the political process in the UK, is extremely damaging for them,” he said, via video link.

Miller bemoans the absence of coverage of what he calls a “real, genuine scandal” in top English-language news sources, which, he says, are themselves implicated in the fallout.

Integrity Initiative are beyond the realms of sense. The activities they are engaged in are morally and ethically dubious, and will certainly – as we can see already – backfire on them,” he said.

“This will result hopefully in the ending of this operation, and if we are lucky, a sensible discussion in parliament about controlling the future British covert operations.”

https://www.rt.com/news/448325-integrity-initiative-shut-down-leaks/
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Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« Reply #4924 on: January 10, 2019, 03:16:26 AM »
Russia/Syria/Israel/US ... accusation of a War Crime by Israel Military / Govt

Israel Uses Commercial Airliners As Cover For Bombings in Syria on Xmas Day

Quote "... Provocative acts by the Israeli Air Force endangered two passenger jets when six of their F-16s carried out airstrikes on Syria from Lebanese airspace."

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Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« Reply #4925 on: January 10, 2019, 05:59:00 AM »
security firm accused by FBI of spying actually helped FBI catch a spy in NSA: Kaspersky turned in Martin to FBI

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/09/russia-kaspersky-lab-nsa-cybersecurity-1089131

Those damn Russians !

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« Reply #4926 on: January 10, 2019, 06:53:41 AM »
Haha! U.S. incompetence levels have long been the highest in the world. Supreme incompetence in fact in the areas of military, intel services, financial regulation and politics overall, obviously.

Quoting from above:
It indicates that the government’s own internal monitoring systems and investigators had little to do with catching Martin, who prosecutors say took home an estimated 50 terabytes of data from the NSA and other government offices over a two-decade period, including some of the NSA’s most sophisticated and sensitive hacking tools.

Idiots! How did Chelsea Manning get her data to send to Wikileaks? She gets 30 years while the Idiots still have a Job, possibly a Promotion, and a Pension for life. It's got to be the worlds longest running Joke? 

As for Kapsersky the man, no way is he an active pro-anyone spy, and anything like that is definitely contrary to his Company Policy and their checks. Accusations against Kaspersky the Company are as irrationally insane as most of the crazy accusations that come pouring out of DC the Pentagon and the US media are.
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« Reply #4927 on: January 10, 2019, 07:26:21 AM »
‘West badly needs US leadership’

Despite the elected White House administration tentatively attempting a rapprochement with the Kremlin at the time, the group, effectively a foreign agent on US soil, suggests in the first document, dated to August 2017, that Washington needs to go in a radically different, if familiar, direction, “before it is too late.”

“The West is badly in need of a reassertion of US leadership. The EU has been unable to generate any strategic thinking or to exercise convincing leadership. Russia (& China) are successfully driving wedges between EU Member States and between Allies within NATO,” reads the plaintive precis.
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 Screenshot from the leaked US office proposal

But, luckily for America, it doesn’t have to fear foreign meddling, as “the cluster will work completely impartially and not become involved in US party politics.”

 Screenshot from leaked file

It’s not 'meddling' when Integrity Initiative does it

https://www.rt.com/news/448420-integrity-initiative-washington-cold-war/
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« Reply #4928 on: January 13, 2019, 11:09:27 PM »
Russia continues dollar dump: moves deeper into yuan and euro

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/russia-dumps-101-billion-dollar-085753166.html

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