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« Reply #400 on: March 28, 2020, 03:40:18 AM »
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Vital Vegas (@VitalVegas) 3/27/20, 2:35 PM
In brighter news, the Las Vegas Convention Center expansion has hit two new milestones, including start of a second tunnel for @elonmusk's underground transportation system.
https://twitter.com/vitalvegas/status/1243607706553860097

Las Vegas Convention Center Expansion Hits Major Milestones
https://vitalvegas.com/las-vegas-convention-center-expansion-hits-major-milestones/

The photo below was probably taken a few weeks ago.  Large bins of dirt are being brought up from that section of the dig.
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« Reply #401 on: May 14, 2020, 06:02:47 PM »
“The Loop is an ‘amenity’ for the convention center, not a public transportation option.”

Elon Musk’s Boring Company finishes digging Las Vegas tunnels
May 14, 2020
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Elon Musk’s Boring Company has completed digging a second tunnel underneath the Las Vegas Convention Center, marking the end of the first phase of the $52.5 million project to build a “people-mover” system to shuttle visitors from one side of the venue to the other. The first of the two tunnels was finished in February.

Workers will now turn their attention to completing the above-ground passenger stations on either end of the tunnels, as well as a third underground station in the middle of the system. The people-mover, which is being formally called the Convention Center Loop, is still scheduled to open to the public in January 2021 in time for the next Consumer Electronics Show — if CES happens, that is.
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Hill also said that the project has so far not been affected by the novel coronavirus pandemic. But if the 2021 Consumer Electronics show is canceled or delayed, Hill said the LVCVA and The Boring Company will wait until the next available trade show to open the Loop up to the public. (Though he says there “might be a car or two available if necessary” to move “employees of LVCVA from one end of the campus” in the meantime.) ...
https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/14/21257849/elon-musk-boring-company-las-vegas-tunnel-finished-digging
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« Reply #402 on: June 05, 2020, 05:53:21 PM »
The TBM is already there, so....

Elon Musk’s Boring Company applies to extend Las Vegas Loop to the Strip
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Last month, The Boring Company announced that it completed the excavation of both tunnels for the [LV Convention Center] project.

They are now seeking approval to move beyond the convention center and connect to a first casino: Encore At Wynn.

Clark County Commissioner Richard “Tick” L. Segerblom made the announcement and shared this image of the planned expansion: [Image below.]

Wynn’s hotel and casino is the closest hotel on the strip to the convention center.
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[The Convention Center system] is going to be owned and operated by the convention center, but Musk has always had the ambition to expand it to the Las Vegas Strip and even the airport, which would also increase the value of the convention center’s own Loop.

Musk recently said that The Boring Company would expand to the rest of Vegas, and he wasn’t kidding. ...
https://electrek.co/2020/06/05/elon-musk-boring-company-applies-to-extend-las-vegas-loop-to-strip/
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« Reply #403 on: June 05, 2020, 06:10:08 PM »
“They are the leading edge in underground technologies. They are very rapid and very inexpensive compared to other routes.”

Ontario, California.  May 28, 2020
Elon Musk’s Boring Co. proposes tunnel to Ontario airport [ONT] as alternative to light-rail
The project would use Teslas traveling underground from Rancho Cucamonga to ONT
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Elon Musk’s The Boring Co. proposes digging a 2.8-mile underground tunnel linking Rancho Cucamonga with Ontario International Airport as an alternative to extending a light-rail system from Pomona, San Bernardino County transportation officials said.

The sub-surface people-mover project would be the first of its kind in San Bernardino County and could replace stalled plans to construct an above-ground extension of the L Line (formerly Gold Line) light-rail that currently ends in Los Angeles County. Other projects on a preliminary list of alternatives to the L Line include a zero-emission train from a Metrolink Station off the San Bernardino Line or a connection from the Riverside Metrolink Line, which has a stop south of Ontario airport.

At $60 million, the proposed tunnel from Rancho to ONT would cost considerably less than the $1- to $1.5-billion light-rail extension from Pomona and could be built in three to four years rather than the 10 years it would take to bring the L Line to the airport, according to the San Bernardino County Transportation Authority.

Musk’s Hawthorne-based company sent an unsolicited proposal to the SBCTA sometime in April or early May, the agency said. In mid-May, the SBCTA Transit Committee warmly embraced the project. The committee also voted unanimously to place a $3 million study of ONT rail access alternatives on hold, so the staff could flesh out Musk’s proposal and move it forward.

The SBCTA governing board will take up the item at its regular meeting June 3, said Otis Greer, spokesman. The committee will hear more details in August or September.

“This is a really compelling idea that we need to seriously look at,” Ray Wolfe, SBCTA executive director, said at the May 14 committee meeting, the first time Musk’s ONT tunnel system was publicly discussed.
“I am very confident this is something we should do,” Wolfe told the committee, made up of local mayors.
“I absolutely support this,” said Ontario City Councilman Alan Wapner, a committee member who is president of the Ontario International Airport Authority.

The proposal for ONT, known as a transportation loop, would involve a narrow tunnel that would transport passengers from the San Bernardino Metrolink train line at a new loop station to be built at the Day Creek flood control channel to Terminal 2 at ONT and back.

Passengers would get into modified Tesla Model X electric vehicles that would drop 35 feet underground into the tunnel. Cars at first would be operated by drivers, but plans are to use autonomous vehicles that can travel at more than 100 mph.
The ride would take about two to three minutes, county officials said.

Wolfe said The Boring Co. would operate the system. Other routes could include boring tunnels under either Archibald Avenue or Haven Avenue, he said. “We are exploring other options to give us easy access to the airport property,” he said.

The capacity of a loop system is 4,000 vehicles/hour at 155 mph, according to The Boring Co. website. This is not to be confused with the Hyperloop, also proposed by Musk, that would move people 600 mph in a vacuum-sealed tube. ...
https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/05/28/elon-musks-boring-co-proposes-tunnel-to-ontario-airport-as-alternative-to-light-rail/
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« Reply #404 on: June 05, 2020, 07:34:32 PM »
Ontario, CA airport tunnel update:  The June 3 vote was unanimous to proceed.

Elon Musk-backed tunnel to Ontario airport gets go-ahead
San Bernardino County transportation officials drop study of light-rail expansion
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By a unanimous vote, the San Bernardino County Transportation Authority’s Board of Directors supported the idea, directing staff to flesh out the proposal and postpone a $3 million study of other airport-rail connections.
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“I think it is a great way to inexpensively improve transportation corridors,” said 1st District Supervisor Robert Lovingood, an SBCTA board member, shortly after the vote. He said he’d like to consider The Boring Co. for transportation needs in the high desert.
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Originally, the proposal called for specially designed Tesla cars. But Hagman said the company is working with Tesla to develop electric vans that can seat up to 12 people and their luggage, enlarging the capacity to 1,200 people per day, or 10 million-plus per year.

Known as the Ontario Airport Loop, the project has a cost range of between $45 million and $60 million, said Carrie Schindler, SBCTA director of transit and rail. That could jump to $75 million when adding an operations center, management services and paying operators prevailing wages, Schindler said.

At $60 million, the Loop would cost considerably less than the $1- to $1.5-billion light-rail extension from Pomona and could be built in three to four years rather than the 10 years it would take to extend the light-rail, according to the SBCTA.

“It is much more cost-effective,” Schindler said. “I do anticipate the need for outside funding but at a reduced level” as compared to building surface projects.

Hagman said the agency could use the $40 million or so set aside for the Gold Line extension to build the  Loop, with grant monies from state, federal or the South Coast Air Quality Management District making up the difference. ...
https://www.dailynews.com/2020/06/03/elon-musk-backed-tunnel-to-ontario-airport-gets-go-ahead/
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« Reply #405 on: June 05, 2020, 07:40:11 PM »
Assuming one tunnel in each direction, 4000 vehicles per hour is more than one every second. And at a crazy speed to boot. How are they loaded? How is their multiplexing into the stream working? Synchronized braking? Offloading? Color me very skeptical about the feasibility of it all.
Or maybe it's 4000 persons per hour??
I hope the SBCTA makes its decisions based on real world throughput rather than pie in the sky. Certainly $60M is way cheaper than $1B and needs to be looked at seriously, but the comparison should include how many real people can travel the loop, and at what ticket price.

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« Reply #406 on: June 05, 2020, 07:43:10 PM »
Having read the update, suddenly things are much different.

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enlarging the capacity to 1,200 people per day, or 10 million-plus per year.
Something in the math here is seriously wrong. But 1200 people per day is not a replacement for light rail.

Could they have meant 1200 per hour?

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« Reply #407 on: June 05, 2020, 07:48:29 PM »
Having read the update, suddenly things are much different.

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enlarging the capacity to 1,200 people per day, or 10 million-plus per year.
Something in the math here is seriously wrong. But 1200 people per day is not a replacement for light rail.

Could they have meant 1200 per hour?

Yes, 1,200 people per day seems wrong.  1,200 people per hour (100 vehicles per hour) seems like a viable capacity.
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« Reply #408 on: June 05, 2020, 07:57:33 PM »
TBC’s FAQ says:
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What is the ridership capacity of Loop?
Loop is targeting 4,000 vehicles/hour at 155mph (250km/h) for each Main Artery Tunnel.
https://www.boringcompany.com/faq

So this would seem to mean multiple stations (or multiple lines from a BIG station) feeding one tunnel.
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« Reply #409 on: June 05, 2020, 08:41:55 PM »
So these vehicles merge at sub-second intervals from multiple feeders into the main artery, and then travel at 250 km/h with a 60m distance between each other. Whatever could go wrong? I shudder at the thought.
Meanwhile, real life dictates much lower rates. Hopefully it's really 1200 per hour and not per day, or the project is a total waste of time.

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« Reply #410 on: June 05, 2020, 09:43:16 PM »
So these vehicles merge at sub-second intervals from multiple feeders into the main artery, and then travel at 250 km/h with a 60m distance between each other. Whatever could go wrong? I shudder at the thought.
Meanwhile, real life dictates much lower rates. Hopefully it's really 1200 per hour and not per day, or the project is a total waste of time.

We’ll see autonomous truck caravans on highways, first, at slower speeds (and higher weights), contending with mistake-prone human drivers and poor-maintenanced vehicles in their surroundings.

A one-lane tunnel is easy in comparison:  all the vehicles would have sensors, and be communicating to each other and to the mothership.  With drivers, at first.  These short tunnels will never see that top speed.

Spacecraft have maneuvered to dock with the International Space Station for 20 years, while both are traveling at 17,500 mph.  No major mishaps yet.


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P.S.:  Difficult to believe the county commissioners would vote unanimously to drop all other projects (and spend the $40 million they set aside for rail) for a system that would only move 1,200 people per day.  Easy to believe that’s just a typo.
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« Reply #411 on: June 13, 2020, 02:07:32 AM »
Las Vegas tunnel extensions are in the works.  The LVCC project is “85% finished.”

“This is a great step to take this from the Convention Center campus out into the community. We’re talking to resorts throughout the community. It’s more than two that want to do this. These are the first two that make sense.”

Elon Musk has two Las Vegas casinos asking for Boring Company tunnels
Jun 12, 2020
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Wynn Las Vegas and the under-construction Resorts World Las Vegas announced today they are seeking Clark County approval for projects linking to the Convention Center transit system, which is expected to be finished early next year.
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Earlier this month, Wynn and Elon Musk’s Boring Company submitted a land-use application to the county for the project’s design, officials said.


The $52.5 million Convention Center tunneling project, part of a $980 million campus expansion, is expected to be complete by January. As of June 1, the total project was 85% finished, LVCVA officials said.


Pending approval from the county, construction on the tunnel extension to Resorts World could begin sometime later this year, officials said. Resorts World is scheduled to open next summer.

Hill said the greater vision for the underground transportation system is to eventually have stops at McCarran International Airport, Allegiant Stadium and downtown Las Vegas.


Hill said LVCVA officials have been in contact in recent days with downtown Las Vegas casino operators about possibly expanding the underground system there.

One obstacle for a tunnel system that would take riders to additional stops along the Strip is a noncompete clause with the Las Vegas Monorail for the area in operates within the resort corridor.

An exception to the agreement is transportation systems that carry passengers from point to point without a stop, Hill said.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/12/21285741/elon-musk-boring-company-las-vegas-wynn-encore-resorts-world-casinos


Wynn, Resorts World plan tunnels to link to Las Vegas Convention Center
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The projects differ from the Convention Center Loop in that those rides won’t be free. Steve Hill, the president and CEO of the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority, told CNN that each trip would cost between $3 and $5. That’s either at or slightly cheaper than the cost of a ticket for the Las Vegas Monorail — which connects the LVCC to a number of hotels and casinos that line the Las Vegas Strip but doesn’t reach the Wynn, the Encore, or Resorts World.

The new tunnels would also have to be financed by the companies, as opposed to the $52.5 million Convention Center Loop, which was paid for by the Convention and Visitors Authority. Both Wynn Resorts and Resorts World say that they’re still negotiating the terms of their agreements with The Boring Company, according to the proposals filed with Clark County. …
https://lasvegassun.com/news/2020/jun/09/wynn-resorts-world-plan-tunnels-to-link-to-las-veg/
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« Reply #412 on: June 16, 2020, 02:41:17 AM »
Las Vegas airport to downtown would be huge.
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Vital Vegas (@VitalVegas) 6/15/20, 6:35 PM
Per well-placed sources, @elonmusk's Boring Company is confident it will expand underground transportation system to include tunnels between airport and downtown Las Vegas, in addition to proposed stops at Wynn and Resorts World.
https://twitter.com/vitalvegas/status/1272659094290104320

Elon Musk (@elonmusk) 6/15/20, 7:30 PM

Looking likely

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1272672762046197760
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« Reply #413 on: June 23, 2020, 08:31:00 PM »
Las Vegas airport to downtown would be huge.

Actually the tunnels are smaller! It is very innovative.
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« Reply #414 on: June 26, 2020, 07:12:26 PM »
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« Reply #415 on: July 07, 2020, 10:25:14 PM »
Gigafactory?  So boring.  TBC is considering a “Dig-A-Factory” competition.

Not-a-Boring Competition — The Boring Company
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The Boring Company’s goal is to build the tunnel infrastructure necessary to enable fast, safe, and comfortable transportation, including Loop and Hyperloop. To feasibly build a large network of tunnels, one must first rapidly innovate to increase tunneling speed and reduce tunneling costs.

This competition challenges teams to come up with tunneling solutions and answer the question, “Can you beat the snail?”. The Boring Company is gauging interest from everyone (students, companies, hobbyists, etc.) from around the world to design, build, and race their own tunneling solution at The Boring Company’s Dig-a-Factory in the first Not-a-Boring Competition in Spring 2021.

Teams will compete to bore a 30-meter tunnel with a cross-sectional area of 0.2 square meters (equivalent to a circle with a 0.5-meter diameter).  Winning categories will include:
   ◦   Fastest to complete tunnel
   ◦   Fastest to complete tunnel and a driving surface (we will drive a Tesla remote controlled car through the tunnel)
   ◦   Most accurate guidance system – how far away is the tunnel from its target?

I’m Interested!
We are currently gauging interest for the Not-a-Boring Competition. If you are interested in participating in the Competition, please complete the form below. ...
https://www.boringcompany.com/competition
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« Reply #416 on: July 07, 2020, 11:56:33 PM »
fake company. 10x faker than the next fakest competition
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« Reply #417 on: July 08, 2020, 12:37:43 PM »
So these vehicles merge at sub-second intervals from multiple feeders into the main artery, and then travel at 250 km/h with a 60m distance between each other. Whatever could go wrong? I shudder at the thought.
Meanwhile, real life dictates much lower rates. Hopefully it's really 1200 per hour and not per day, or the project is a total waste of time.
Let's assume 4000 vehicles/hour is the whole system, meaning 2000/h per direction. This is 1.8 seconds between vehicles moving at 250 km/h or 70 m/s. 126 meters between vehicles moving 70 m/s does not give much room for error.

This may be doable in theory but is the system really able to handle sustained volumes in such speed and interval? How to efficiently on and offload so many cars? Just like a rifle can shoot 700 shots / minute but there is only 30 rounds in the magazine.

How much is 4000 vehicles/h? With full 5 persons per vehicle the theoretical max capacity is 20000 people/h or 10000 one way. This is a bit more than light rail, and appr. 10% of an efficient metro line.

On the plus side TBC doesn't really need stations which are the most expensive part of an underground rail line. It's also flexible for the passengers if they can continue to their final destinations.

The downside is extremely expensive rolling stock. And then there is the underlying physical fact that it is just awfully expensive, energy- space- and moneywise, to move a handful of people in a 1 ton metal shell.

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« Reply #418 on: July 08, 2020, 09:30:33 PM »
Let's assume 4000 vehicles/hour is the whole system, meaning 2000/h per direction. This is 1.8 seconds between vehicles moving at 250 km/h or 70 m/s. 126 meters between vehicles moving 70 m/s does not give much room for error.

This may be doable in theory but is the system really able to handle sustained volumes in such speed and interval? How to efficiently on and offload so many cars? Just like a rifle can shoot 700 shots / minute but there is only 30 rounds in the magazine.

No need to assume.
From the TBC FAQ:
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Loop is targeting 4,000 vehicles/hour at 155mph (250km/h) for each Main Artery Tunnel.  If a second tunnel is added below the first, this value doubles. 

(Emphasis mine.)  A “practically unlimited” number of branch tunnels, entrances, exits and stations will feed the main tunnel:
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Unlike a subway, there is no practical upper limit to the number of stations that can be built along the tunnel route, as stations can be as small as two parking spaces.

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The electric vehicles descend into a "spur" or side tunnel before quickly merging into a Main Artery Tunnel. Since stations require such a small footprint, they can be easily integrated in busy city-centers, parking garages, and residential communities. The high density of stations will help reduce congestion by distributing traffic across many access points and by providing more convenient entry and exit locations. At the same time, larger stations can be built to increase ridership capacity to a specific central location.

There is also no practical upper limit on the number of layers of tunnels, allowing the Loop system itself to always have capacity available to service each station.


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How much is 4000 vehicles/h? With full 5 persons per vehicle the theoretical max capacity is 20000 people/h or 10000 one way. This is a bit more than light rail, and appr. 10% of an efficient metro line.

On the plus side TBC doesn't really need stations which are the most expensive part of an underground rail line. It's also flexible for the passengers if they can continue to their final destinations.

More from the FAQ:
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How is Loop different from a subway?

Loop is an “express” public transportation system and more resembles an underground highway than a subway system.  Through the use of a Main Artery Tunnel with side tunnels for entry/exit, passengers travel directly to their final destination without stopping.

As an example, if a train-line had 100 stops, the train would typically stop at each one, so the trip from Stop 1 to Stop 100 would be long.  For Loop, passengers would travel directly from Stop 1 to Stop 100 without stopping at the intermediate stations. 

Equivalently, a Loop vehicle’s average speed is close to its maximum speed, while a train’s average speed is much less than its maximum speed.  A subway car might be capable of traveling 65 mph, but its average speed might be 20 mph, decreasing further as more intermediate stations are added.

Additionally, autonomous electric vehicles are generally faster than conventional subway cars (150 mph vs. 65 mph), and, because of Loop’s architecture of high-quantity, small-footprint stations, Loop can get passengers physically closer to their final desired destination.
https://www.boringcompany.com/faq

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The downside is extremely expensive rolling stock. And then there is the underlying physical fact that it is just awfully expensive, energy- space- and moneywise, to move a handful of people in a 1 ton metal shell.

Compare the efficiency of a big heavy rail car when it carries only a handful of passengers, or is even empty, but must maintain its schedule.  Needing to waste energy coming to a full stop at each passenger’s station, then start up again.  More noise pollution, as well as oil and grease deposits from the equipment.

In the age of COVID, consider the benefits of traveling in smaller groups, being enclosed for a shorter time, plus the ability to disinfect each car quickly and automatically between rides, on a side track.  The Loop’s flexible scheduling and smaller stations means fewer people crowded together waiting to board a train at one specified time.  Fewer passengers exiting and entering through the same limited door-space.

“Passenger throughput” is but one measurement of many needed to judge a Loop’s worth.

Edit: 
Forgot to mention that weather like snow, freezing rain, flooding, or heat high enough to warp metal rails will not stop a Loop, while it can bring trains to a standstill.
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« Reply #419 on: July 09, 2020, 06:20:27 AM »
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Unlike a subway, there is no practical upper limit to the number of stations that can be built along the tunnel route, as stations can be as small as two parking spaces.

I believe this refers to the station's footprint above ground, not to the actual station itself.

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The electric vehicles descend into a "spur" or side tunnel before quickly merging into a Main Artery Tunnel. Since stations require such a small footprint, they can be easily integrated in busy city-centers, parking garages, and residential communities.

I do wonder how the vehicles merge from these stations into the 250 km/h main artery, and what is the length and angle of "spur" tunnel required. I hope passengers won't need a g-suit.
Assuming 10 seconds to reach 250 km/h at constant acceleration, the track length is ~350m.

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« Reply #420 on: July 09, 2020, 12:09:46 PM »
Entry points for the vehicles could be two vehicles wide but exit points will need stacking capability to handle ground side congestion.

This will need something, the most obvious is space but I could envision something like a paternoster lift,  two, side by side, could possibly provide the required buffer.

Otherwise you could find yourself going many stops past your desired stop without an available exit.

The deeper it is, the faster you can join as accelerating whilst falling is optimal although pulling out would have to be longer.

There are benefits and drawbacks on the energy use for personal vehicles. For instance it removes a whole raft of ground side infrastructure which spends most of its time virtually empty. As in everything, there needs to be a balance and neither solution is 100% viable.
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« Reply #421 on: July 09, 2020, 04:01:15 PM »
Entry points for the vehicles could be two vehicles wide but exit points will need stacking capability to handle ground side congestion.
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Remember, the central computer knows where every car is going.  A group of cars can be slowed as needed, and the moment of entry onto the main tunnel can be calculated and timed so it gets the car to its destination with minimal congestion or delay.

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I do wonder how the vehicles merge from these stations into the 250 km/h main artery, and what is the length and angle of "spur" tunnel required. I hope passengers won't need a g-suit.
Assuming 10 seconds to reach 250 km/h at constant acceleration, the track length is ~350m.
Simple: create the required buffer zone by slowing, or speeding up, the approaching cars slightly, or delaying nearby traffic’s entry into the tunnel for a few seconds to facilitate a merge into the flow.

Besides, “Tesla does not make slow cars.” ;) Although we don’t want to see passengers pasted against the rear window, fitting into traffic should not be a problem.  Side tunnels and branches serving many “stations” at lower speed will feed into the main tunnel.
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« Reply #422 on: August 06, 2020, 02:59:46 PM »
Las Vegas tunnel project clears last major hurdle for expansion
Aug 5 2020
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On Wednesday, county officials unanimously approved designs for two additional tunnels connecting hotels with the Las Vegas Convention Center, clearing the way for Musk’s Boring Co. to expand its first commercial underground transportation system.

Approval form the Clark County commission is one of the last hurdles to a proposed expansion of a Boring Co. project burrowing underneath the convention center, which was largely finished in May but has yet to open for rides. One of the hotels connecting to the Loop, Resorts World, said it expects construction on the expansion to begin by the end of this year, Scott Sibella, president of Resorts World Las Vegas, said in an emailed statement.

In May, Musk tweeted that Boring Co. would “also connect Vegas hotels & airport.” Airport officials have held introductory conversations with the Boring Co. in recent weeks, according to Chris Jones, a spokesman for McCarran International Airport.

With the coronavirus pandemic curbing travel, including to Las Vegas, Boring Co. and its hotel partners may benefit from some extra time to get their projects ready. Boring Co. has said it’s on track to finish the Vegas convention center Loop by January, in time for the massive Consumer Electronics Show, though conference organizers said last week that the event will be held exclusively online. A Boring Co. Loop to Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles is still mired in the city’s environmental review process and missed a deadline for opening this year that had been set by the baseball team’s financial chief. ...
https://fortune.com/2020/08/05/elon-musk-las-vegas-tunnel-project-expansion/
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« Reply #423 on: August 09, 2020, 03:56:54 AM »
Elon Musk has a secret Boring Company station between LA to Vegas in the works
August 3, 2020
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Elon Musk’s Boring Company appears to have something brewing in between Los Angeles and Las Vegas, and it could have to deal with the company’s plans to link the two cities with a tunnel.

Photos showed a Boring Company machine, along with large tents set up in the middle of the desert in Adelanto, California. The presence of machinery and storage tents hints toward the possibility that the Boring Company could be gearing up for the prospective link between Los Angeles and Las Vegas. ...
https://www.teslarati.com/boring-company-station-adelanto-lv-la-connection/
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« Reply #424 on: August 19, 2020, 11:23:51 PM »
A long Twitter thread by Nafnlaus on The Boring Company as a public transportation company:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1295317060877266945.html

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1/Recently, there's been another surge of "Elon Musk is Trying to Kill Public Transit" on Twitter (thanks, @doctorow!). Pointing out that Musk *literally runs a public transit company* (@boringcompany) just brings us to the "volumes are too low, so it can't work" line.

[...]

Getting the picture? Public is not about "how many people you can fit onto a train at once"; it's about how much money you have to spend...
... per unit passenger capacity (we'll set aside all issues of comfort and convenience for now). Which means that *you cannot eliminate departure rates, how direct routes are, and construction costs from the picture*; they're an integral part.

So how what about Boring Company?
First off, Boring Company is Personal Rapid Transit:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_rapid_transit

While this is normally focused on for comfort and convenience, it's also about capacity: everyone goes directly to their destination; nobody heads in the wrong direction.

Secondly, it's focused on *radical* cost reductions for tunneling, particular to its design elements.

[...]

Is TBC "there" already? Of course not; it takes years to decades to radically transform any given type of...
... technology.

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« Reply #425 on: October 13, 2020, 10:42:02 PM »
Boring Company expands Las Vegas’ Tesla vehicles Loop system
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Earlier this year, they completed the excavation of both tunnels for the [Convention Center] project, and now they are working on the electric transportation system and stations for the launch in just a few months.

Over the last few months, we have been hearing that The Boring Company was looking into expanding the Loop beyond the convention center and throughout the entire city.

Today, LVCVA boss Steve Hill confirmed that The Boring Company has taken the first step to expand the transportation system:

”During the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority’s (LVCVA) Board of Directors meeting today, Steve Hill, LVCVA president and CEO, shared that Musk’s tunneling company recently submitted its special use permit application to the City of Las Vegas and intends to file a land use (design review) application in Clark County shortly, the first steps in the process to construct the system across Las Vegas.”

Here’s the new map of the proposed expansion of The Boring Company Las Vegas Loop: [⬇️ Image below.]

The Boring Company and Vegas Loop President Steve Davis commented on the application:
“We are very excited about the future of Loop transportation in Las Vegas and are grateful for the enthusiasm shown by Clark County, the City of Las Vegas, the LVCVA, the resorts, and attractions.”


The company is expected to move fast and has already applied to expand the system from the LVCVA to a few resorts, like Resorts World Las Vegas, a new casino resort to launch next year, and Encore At Wynn.
https://electrek.co/2020/10/13/elon-musk-boring-company-expands-loop-system-tesla-las-vegas/

Below: Newly revised Vegas Loop proposal map. (Click to embiggen.)
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« Reply #426 on: November 09, 2020, 09:12:38 PM »
Boring Co. launches hiring spree in Austin, home of Tesla’s Giga Texas
November 9, 2020
It is unknown whether the Boring Company is simply setting up an office in Texas as Elon Musk has hinted that he will move Tesla to the Lone Star State in the future, or if the underground tunneling company is planning to set up a new transportation system for the massive number of employees who will work at the Giga Texas site.
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« Reply #427 on: November 13, 2020, 07:24:18 PM »
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City of Las Vegas (@CityOfLasVegas) 11/10/20, 7:21 PM
The @boringcompany has submitted an application for the possible expansion of their underground Tesla shuttle system into downtown Las Vegas.
It is scheduled to go before the Planning Commission tonight at 6 p.m. and we will carry it live here.
https://twitter.com/cityoflasvegas/status/1326319114118258688
⬇️ Map below; Station renders at the link.

Boring Company asked to add more stops to Vegas Loop tunnels
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Elon Musk’s Boring Company received its first official “approval” for the expansion of its Vegas Loop. The city’s Planning Commission openly showed support for the Boring Co.’s project, recommending an approval for the expansion of the Vegas Loop to the City Council. Before the recommendation, the Planning Commission suggested adding a stop to the loop in the Arts District as well.

The Las Vegas Arts District—known as 18b—is a cultural hub, filled with enticing creative opportunities and sights to titillate imaginative, adventurous minds. It offers a different sort of entertainment than the casinos and resorts in Sin City. The Planning Commission seemed eager to support a stop in the Arts District for the Vegas Loop.
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The Vegas Loop’s expansion will be added to the City Council’s agenda on December 16, 2020. If passed, the tunneling startup’s Loop will run through some of Sin City’s popular destinations, including casinos along the Strip, Allegiant Stadium, and downtown Las Vegas as well as the McCarran International Airport. The Vegas Loop will also be connected to Boring Company’s Las Vegas Convention Center Loop.  ... 
https://www.teslarati.com/elon-musk-boring-company-arts-district-station-vegas-loop-expansion-approval-video/
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« Reply #428 on: December 18, 2020, 06:33:17 PM »
Boring Co. Vegas Loop gets unanimous approval from Las Vegas City Council
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The Boring Company’s Special Use Permit application for its proposed Vegas Loop project was approved by the Las Vegas City Council. The Vegas Loop will connect with the tunneling company’s Las Vegas Convention Center (LVCC) Loop and any other service extensions.

The Las Vegas City Council discussed, voted, and approved the Boring Company’s request on Wednesday in a 7-0 vote. The request was listed as Agenda Item 85 with a recommendation for approval from the Las Vegas Planning Commission.

The approval opens the door for Elon Musk’s Boring Company to begin establishing more stops in the Vegas Loop, which was originally developed by the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Association. Earlier this month, a Licence and Maintenance Agreement for the tunnel to expand to the Encore at Wynn Las Vegas was approved by Clark County, Nevada officials.

Now, an even more robust expansion has been approved by the Las Vegas City Council.
Steve Davis, President of the Boring Company, was the representative who presented the project to the Las Vegas City Council. Davis stated that the project will require zero tax dollars or public funds and would be completely funded by the Boring Company.


The tunneling company plans to connect the Vegas Loop to several notable places in Sin City, including The Strip, Allegiant Stadium, McCarran International Airport, as well as resorts and casinos. The Boring Company recently submitted applications to Clark County, Nevada, which has jurisdiction over the Las Vegas Strip.

The application requested the approval of additional service extensions in the Vegas Loop. One line would connect to several Caesars Entertainment properties like Caesars Palace, Planet Hollywood Resort, and Paris Las Vegas. Another line would connect the Strip to downtown Las Vegas.
https://www.teslarati.com/elon-musk-boring-company-las-vegas-tunnel-unanimous-approval/

The Planning Commission document:
https://lasvegas.primegov.com/meetings/ItemWithTemplateType?id=13510&meetingTemplateType=2

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https://twitter.com/boringcompany/status/1334763332029464577
12 sec. vid: Enclosed Las Vegas station, with colored lights & music
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« Reply #429 on: December 18, 2020, 07:14:40 PM »
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Details from one of the presentation slides:

Loop safety
Vehicles
Loop uses production Tesla vehicles, which are NHTSA 5-star rated
Lowest probability of injury of any vehicles ever tested by NHTSA

System
Wide walkway for emergency egress
Real time gas and smoke detection
Ventilation system designed to NFPA standards
Direct communications within tunnel to Control Center via tunnel intercom, cell service, and Wi-Fi

Drive surface
No third rail or touch hazards
Minimal fire load due to use of batteries
Highly resistant to water damage
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« Reply #430 on: January 15, 2021, 09:03:23 PM »
The Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority (LVCVA) board agreed to pay The Boring Company (TBC) up to $6.25 million for the operation and management of the Las Vegas Convention Center (LVCC) Loop, beginning February 1, 2021. 

The Boring Company gets $6.25M for LVCC Loop & permission to dig more tunnels
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The LVCC Loop will not charge fares as part of the agreement with the board. Revenue will be generated by the LVCVA through advertising, sponsorships, and facility rentals. The board agreed to pay the tunneling company $167,000 per month as a management fee to maintain operations and test the underground people-mover.

The document also stated: “The Agreement provides for an additional fee in the form of a Base Operations and Maintenance (O&M) Fee for full operation of the System. The Base O&M Fee is scaled for show size, with a maximum daily fee of $30,000 for the largest sized facility shows.”

Tesla vehicles with drivers will move people through the tunnels at the beginning of the system’s operations. However, the board expects autonomous operations with Tesla cars “no later than December 31 2021,” and has agreed to provide a renegotiation fee once the shift takes place.

Vegas Loop Agreement
The board also gave Elon Musk’s Boring Co. permission to dig more tunnels to connect the LVCC with the Encore Resort campus with the Vegas Loop. The company also attained permission to extend and create more “connectivity” in the city’s Resort Corridor.

Unlike the LVCC Loop, the Vegas Loop will be fully funded and operated by TBC.
https://www.teslarati.com/elon-musk-boring-company-las-vegas-loop-new-funding/
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« Reply #431 on: January 18, 2021, 07:16:31 PM »
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"Cars & trucks stuck in traffic generate megatons of toxic gases & particulate, but
@boringcompany
 road tunnels under Miami would solve traffic & be an example to the world.

Spoke with
@RonDeSantisFL
 about tunnels last week. If Governor & Mayor want this done, we will do it."



This is your hero. Solving traffic congestion - not through bike lanes and public transit..... no....Let's drill tunnels under a below-sea-level swap and drive electric cars through them.

It's so embarrassing and pathetic that people think he's a genius.... Or at least someone that gives a shit about sustainability.

This is one of the many faces of the worldwide shift into sustainability in a capitalist society. littered with people like musk scamming goverments into sexy projects built for the rich while public infrastructure crumbles. Charging stations and private tunnels for the mcmansions and piss-stained decrepit busses for the poor (if they're lucky to have a route).

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« Reply #432 on: January 18, 2021, 08:39:59 PM »
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1351091106805645312
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"Cars & trucks stuck in traffic generate megatons of toxic gases & particulate, but
@boringcompany
 road tunnels under Miami would solve traffic & be an example to the world.

Spoke with
@RonDeSantisFL
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Building an underground transit system in Miami seems a bit dumb.

Pourquoi ?
Miami is doomed from sea level rise no matter how well or badly humanity sorts out CO2 emissions.

Miami does not have an underground transit system for a very good reason.

The geology of Miami and Florida
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The surface bedrock under the Miami area is called Miami oolite or Miami limestone. This bedrock is covered by a thin layer of soil, and is no more than 50 feet (15 m) thick. Miami limestone formed as the result of the drastic changes in sea level associated with recent glacial periods, or ice ages. Beginning some 130,000 years ago, the Sangamonian Stage raised sea levels to approximately 25 feet (8 m) above the current level. All of southern Florida was covered by a shallow sea. Several parallel lines of reef formed along the edge of the submerged Florida plateau, stretching from the present Miami area to what is now the Dry Tortugas. The area behind this reef line was in effect a large lagoon, and the Miami limestone formed throughout the area from the deposition of oolites and the shells of bryozoans. Starting about 100,000 years ago, the Wisconsin glaciation began lowering sea levels, exposing the floor of the lagoon. By 15,000 years ago, the sea level had dropped 300 to 350 feet (90 to 110 m) below the current level. The sea level rose quickly after that, stabilizing at the current level about 4,000 years ago, leaving the mainland of South Florida just above sea level.[34]

Beneath the plain lies the Biscayne Aquifer, a natural underground source of fresh water that extends from southern Palm Beach County to Florida Bay. It comes closest to the surface around the cities of Miami Springs and Hialeah.[35] Most of the Miami metropolitan area obtains its drinking water from the Biscayne Aquifer. As a result of the aquifer, it is not possible to dig more than 15 to 20 ft (5 to 6 m) beneath the city without hitting water, which impedes underground construction, though some underground parking garages exist. For this reason, the mass transit systems in and around Miami are elevated or at-grade.[34]
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« Reply #433 on: January 21, 2021, 02:46:12 AM »
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Miami does not have an underground transit system for a very good reason.

The geology of Miami and Florida
As a result of the aquifer, it is not possible to dig more than 15 to 20 ft (5 to 6 m) beneath the city without hitting water, which impedes underground construction, though some underground parking garages exist. For this reason, the mass transit systems in and around Miami are elevated or at-grade.


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@truth_tesla  1/18/21, 4:22 AM
How does the Netherlands have tunnels, if much of the country is below sea level?
The answer: tunnel concrete walls are waterproof, and tunnels are probably also excellent emergency shelters during hurricanes as well.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_t…
https://twitter.com/truth_tesla/status/1351097608547278852
@truth_tesla :
 Fun fact: about 50% of Netherlands' surface is at or below 1m above sea level - and a majority of their underground tunnels are below sea level.
info at the link

Portions of the Boring Company LVCC Loop are below the water table.

The Boring Company ramps vehicle testing for LVCC Loop [video]
January 19, 2021
https://www.teslarati.com/elon-musk-the-boring-company-las-vegas-loop-video/

Low frame-rate, fixed webcam vid, ~5 min:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8tv-P1g7JY&feature=youtu.be

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< What about Gary the snail? Is he still faster than the tunneling machines?
Elon Musk (@elonmusk)1/9/21, 1:59 PM
Yes, but not for long
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1347981380710383616
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« Reply #434 on: January 21, 2021, 03:10:27 AM »
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Low frame-rate, fixed webcam vid, ~5 min:
Having watched, now I know why it's called the boring company (even at speedx2) :P

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« Reply #435 on: January 21, 2021, 01:36:09 PM »
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Miami does not have an underground transit system for a very good reason.

The geology of Miami and Florida
As a result of the aquifer, it is not possible to dig more than 15 to 20 ft (5 to 6 m) beneath the city without hitting water, which impedes underground construction, though some underground parking garages exist. For this reason, the mass transit systems in and around Miami are elevated or at-grade.


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@truth_tesla  1/18/21, 4:22 AM
How does the Netherlands have tunnels, if much of the country is below sea level?
The answer: tunnel concrete walls are waterproof, and tunnels are probably also excellent emergency shelters during hurricanes as well.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_t…
https://twitter.com/truth_tesla/status/1351097608547278852
@truth_tesla :
 Fun fact: about 50% of Netherlands' surface is at or below 1m above sea level - and a majority of their underground tunnels are below sea level.
info at the link

Completely different set of problems.
Netherlands
"The recent Netherlands geology is formed by Pleistocene and Holocene age sediments as result of (glacio)-fluvial, eolian and marine sedimentation." (wikipedia) i.e. the near surface geology is probably relatively easy to tunnel.

Miami - built on limestone
Limestone dissolves especially below the water table. It is full of underground channels, vast caves, streams, rivers, and sinkholes.

It is not a good idea to bore tunnels through the metropolitan area's main source of freshwater.
After the tunnels are finished maybe the tunnels are entirely watertight - but during construction?

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Sigmetnow - you live there don't you? Do you want Musk and his machines to smash their way through what is a pretty much unique physical environment and eco-system?
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« Reply #436 on: January 21, 2021, 01:58:57 PM »
There are tunnelling techniques.  The Swiss tunnelled through the Alps where rocks, in places, ran like water.  Many countries have undersea coal mines where they have used freezing techniques to stop water ingress from fractured fissured rock structures.

However the main water sources is an issue.  Not something you would want to be running construction equipment in.
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« Reply #437 on: January 21, 2021, 03:46:57 PM »
I do not live in Las Vegas, the Netherlands, nor Miami.

Given that bridges remain stable in substance as light as air, and tunnels are built underwater, and that Miami has both, I’d say the odds of the Boring Company being able to do what they say are rather good.

How about an opinion from a professor of underground construction and tunneling, on this very subject?
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South Florida is largely on a foundation of limestone, which is sponge-like, allowing water to move through it easily. But tunneling through limestone and beneath groundwater is common, said Michael Mooney, a professor of underground construction and tunneling at the Colorado School of Mines.

Mooney said that rising sea levels would increase the pressure on a finally designed tunnel, but that can be accommodated by design
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/florida/os-neelon-musk-dig-tunnels-as-solution-for-miami-traffic-jams-20210120-vuvhmg3lhfa7zchgf4b7p2bc4y-story.html

Port Miami Tunnel - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Miami_Tunnel
The Port of Miami Tunnel (also State Road 887) is a 4,200-foot (1,300 m) bored, undersea tunnel in Miami, Florida. It consists of two parallel tunnels (one in each direction) that travel beneath Biscayne Bay, connecting the MacArthur Causeway on Watson Island with PortMiami on Dodge Island.


As to whether the environment is better protected by emissions-free transport through tunnels, as opposed to millions of vehicles polluting the air, I would not reject the former without knowing more about their protective construction methods.  But that’s just me.

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Come work with us in Las Vegas – lots of boring jobs available!
boringcompany.com/jobs
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« Reply #438 on: January 24, 2021, 09:48:13 PM »
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Under Vegas in @boringcompany tunnel yesterday with my boys

< Can’t wait for official @boringcompany opening rave
Elon Musk:
Fallout-themed opening party for Vegas Loop happening as soon as allowed
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« Reply #439 on: January 25, 2021, 04:52:31 PM »
The Las Vegas Monorail went bankrupt last year.  Boring Co. partner LVCVA bought it, and its territorial rights, making more of the city available to TBC’s individualized mass transportation system.
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Not only did Vegas take a big hit financially in 2020 due to the COVID-19 pandemic, but some of the passenger transportation options also fell victim to the lack of visitation from tourists. The notorious Las Vegas Monorail filed for bankruptcy in 2020, only to be bought out by the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Association, a main partner in the Boring Co. project.

This effectively allowed the Boring Co. Vegas Loop the opportunity to expand to unforeseen areas of Las Vegas as the Monorail owned specific rights to certain regions of the City. The closure and eventual buyout by the LVCVA gave leeway to the Boring Co. project, especially as the company’s executives pushed for more approvals with other entities. The Encore at the Wynn Las Vegas was the first resort to approve a Boring Co. Vegas Loop stop at its facility, but the project isn’t stopping there. After receiving unanimous approval from the Las Vegas City Council in late December, expansion to other areas seems more likely moving forward, making the possibility of a full-scale boring project available in the coming years.
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« Reply #440 on: January 26, 2021, 07:18:17 PM »
The Las Vegas Monorail went bankrupt last year.  Boring Co. partner LVCVA bought it, and its territorial rights, making more of the city available to TBC’s individualized mass transportation system.
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Not only did Vegas take a big hit financially in 2020 due to the COVID-19 pandemic, but some of the passenger transportation options also fell victim to the lack of visitation from tourists. The notorious Las Vegas Monorail filed for bankruptcy in 2020, only to be bought out by the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Association, a main partner in the Boring Co. project.

This effectively allowed the Boring Co. Vegas Loop the opportunity to expand to unforeseen areas of Las Vegas as the Monorail owned specific rights to certain regions of the City. The closure and eventual buyout by the LVCVA gave leeway to the Boring Co. project, especially as the company’s executives pushed for more approvals with other entities. The Encore at the Wynn Las Vegas was the first resort to approve a Boring Co. Vegas Loop stop at its facility, but the project isn’t stopping there. After receiving unanimous approval from the Las Vegas City Council in late December, expansion to other areas seems more likely moving forward, making the possibility of a full-scale boring project available in the coming years.
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-vegas-loop-branded-model-x-boring-company/



Just like when General Motors helped usher the decline of public transit in the 20th century, replacing electric streetcars with buses and lobbying for the auto-centered city planning throughout the states, Tesla (and ride hailing/autonomous cars) will do the same but with a modern 21st century touch.

Cities are already pulling funds away from public transit and relying on neo-feudal companies like Uber to meet their transit needs. Tesla is doing the same, except they rob public coffers for techno-dystopian underground personalized transport designed just for the rich.

So long as Uber and Tesla continue their success, they may be the final nail in the coffin for the rotting public transit systems in America.

You never answer my question Sig, how much Tesla stock do you own?

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« Reply #441 on: February 03, 2021, 02:35:26 AM »
The Boring Company gets approval for LVCC Loop extension to Resorts World
February 2, 2021
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The Clark County Board of Commissioners recently approved a license and maintenance agreement that allowed The Boring Company (TBC) to use a portion of the right-of-way in Las Vegas Boulevard. It also allowed TBC to construct, maintain, and operate a point-to-point underground tunnel transit system between the Las Vegas Convention Center and Resorts World.

On Tuesday, the Board unanimously approved the license and maintenance agreement, reported the Las Vegas Review-Journal. According to director of comprehensive planning Nancy Amundsen, The Boring Company also submitted excavation and construction permits for the LVCC Loop extension between the convention center’s new West Hall and Resorts World. The LVCC Loop has already started ramping vehicle tests in one of its stations.

The Resorts World station will be underground, while the LVCC Loop station is above ground on convention center grounds. The Resorts World stations will be part of The Boring Company’s Vegas Loop. Last month, the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority (LVCVA) board gave TBC permission to dig more tunnels to connect the connection center with the Encore Resort campus via the Vegas Loop. LVCVA gave Boring Company the permission to extend and create more connections in Sin City’s Resort Corridor, too.

The LVCVA board also agreed to pay The Boring Company up to $6.5 million to operate and manage the LVCC Loop. The tunneling company will not charge fares for rides in the transport tunnel system as part of its agreement with the board. TBC will fully fund the operation and management of the Vegas Loop.
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« Reply #442 on: February 05, 2021, 01:47:46 AM »
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Driving underground and under water today with The Boring Company.

Tunneling under the water table and Vegas hard rock, they delivered a >10x cost (and 2.5x time) savings vs. the alternatives! Same #'s for Ontario Airport Loop.

Hiring in Austin & Vegas    boringcompany.com/jobs 
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The Boring Company Moves Forward with Vegas Clark County
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The commissioners have given the go-ahead for The Boring Company to build two new tunnels, for two resorts, to add to the large Las Vegas  Loop project. The LVCC Loop, a Loop of the Vegas Loop, recently finished.

Another new tunnel proposal was also submitted for a Circus Circus Resort project tunnel.
Total, the Vegas Loop will connect approximately 50 stations on the Loop.
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The Resort World tunnel project will finish with the coinciding of the resort’s grand opening summer 2021. A run down description of the tunnel projects is given by The Boring Company below.

“The project will provide the quick, environmentally friendly and efficient movement of people within Clark County and its surroundings without disrupting activities occurring above ground.

This transportation system will provide benefits to the surrounding community by increasing the ease in which the public moves between key destinations within the greater resort corridor and beyond, while alleviating surface traffic. The project will be harmonious and compatible with existing and planned development in the area, and will provide visitors to the greater Las Vegas area with an innovative transportation system worthy of their expectations.”

 
— The Boring Company
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https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmanian-blog/the-boring-co-clark-county
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« Reply #443 on: February 11, 2021, 12:37:16 AM »
Further talks regarding an approximately two-mile tunnel in Miami, Florida, which has long been discussed as a solution to the Brickell Avenue Drawbridge, which causes downtown Miami traffic to come to a halt every time it goes up.
Using the PortMiami tunnel as a cost basis, and adjusted for inflation and complexity, the proposed tunnel priced out at $1 billion and would require four years to complete.  Musk thinks The Boring Company could do it for about $30 million and in six months.

February 8, 2021
Elon Musk Says He Can Build Brickell Tunnel In Six Months, For Around $30M
https://www.thenextmiami.com/elon-musk-says-he-can-build-brickell-tunnel-in-six-months-for-around-30m/

February 5, 2021
‘Unique Opportunity To Create Signature Project’: Miami Mayor Francis Suarez Talks To Elon Musk About Tunnel Transit
https://miami.cbslocal.com/2021/02/05/miami-mayor-francis-suarez-elon-musk-tunnel-transit/
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« Reply #444 on: February 13, 2021, 10:18:13 PM »
Beat the snail!

The First Not A Boring Company Competition
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The Not-A-Boring Company competition started out with roughly four hundred teams. Twelve teams are left advancing, “The Digging Dozen”, whittled down from the applicants, with the goal to dig faster than a snail, which is 14 times faster than the current machinery. ...

Teams will compete to bore a 30-meter tunnel with a cross-sectional area of 0.2 square meters (equivalent to a circle with a 0.5-meter diameter). 

The three winning categories will include:
   •   Fastest to complete tunnel
   •   Fastest to complete tunnel and a driving surface (we will drive a Tesla remote controlled car through the tunnel)
   •   Most accurate guidance system – how far away is the tunnel from its target?
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« Reply #445 on: February 16, 2021, 05:55:21 PM »
area = pi x r^2
0.200/pi = r^2
r = .252 m (minimum)
How does one drive a Model 3 through a tunnel about 1/2 meter wide?  The cars are about a meter wide.  If the hole is an oval a meter wide, its height will be considerably less than 1/2 meter, and the car is over 1/2 meter 'tall'.

Or is the "Tesla" in question a soapbox derby sized vehicle?

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« Reply #446 on: February 16, 2021, 10:12:25 PM »
area = pi x r^2
0.200/pi = r^2
r = .252 m (minimum)
How does one drive a Model 3 through a tunnel about 1/2 meter wide?  The cars are about a meter wide.  If the hole is an oval a meter wide, its height will be considerably less than 1/2 meter, and the car is over 1/2 meter 'tall'.

Or is the "Tesla" in question a soapbox derby sized vehicle?  ...

This is a student competition. As noted above:
...(we will drive a Tesla remote controlled car through the tunnel)...

Tesla's Cybertruck is now a $400 remote control car thanks to Mattel
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/21/teslas-cybertruck-is-now-a-400-remote-control-car-thanks-to-mattel.html

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