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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #650 on: September 08, 2017, 09:22:17 PM »
Two South Florida nuclear power plants lie in Irma’s path. Are they ready?
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/weather/hurricane/article171542692.html
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #651 on: September 08, 2017, 09:33:24 PM »
All the prep work for the hurricane happening in incredible heat as well. Heat index in Miami is 110. #IrmaHurricane2017
https://twitter.com/growingwisdom/status/906235600822554625
Image of current conditions at the link.

To the guy who keeps calling my office suggesting we should just drop dry ice into Irma...that ain't gonna work. #toobusy #wastemytime #Irma
https://twitter.com/WCM_Krissy/status/906236188297703425

You can't wait for more model runs and just hope things change. You have to prepare for a hurricane. It's as simple as that.
https://twitter.com/RyanNBC6/status/905991887215054849

For South Florida the time for hope has passed. A potentially catastrophic hurricane is headed your way. If ordered to leave, get out. #Irma
https://twitter.com/MichaelRLowry/status/905996129426386944


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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #652 on: September 08, 2017, 09:45:48 PM »
Top image: (the Grand Celebration usually sails to the Bahamas.)
they've got a sense of humor
https://twitter.com/TerpWeather/status/906235758058590219

Bottom image:
Most of the cruise ships (blue) near Miami are either headed to Cozumel, Mexico, or "port not identified."
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #653 on: September 08, 2017, 10:07:10 PM »
Traffic appears to be moving fairly well out of Florida.  The mandatory evacuation of Savannah, Georgia is being added to the often heavy Interstate 95 traffic, so no surprise at the slowness there.

Gas Buddy reports 186 of 7131 gas stations in Florida have fuel.  (The status of most stations is unknown.)  Results for stations in the Miami area is shown below.
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #654 on: September 08, 2017, 10:12:12 PM »
Catastrophic damage on #Barbuda can be seen from space. Entire island stripped of tropical foliage and left brown. #Irma
https://twitter.com/Cyclonebiskit/status/906234793381302273

Le ciel clair sur #Barbuda cet après-midi permet de constater l'ampleur du désastre même depuis le satellite MODIS/Aqua. #Irma
https://twitter.com/KeraunosObs/status/906233638488088576

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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #655 on: September 08, 2017, 10:33:38 PM »
Per WaPo: "Rush Limbaugh indicates he’s evacuating Palm Beach days after suggesting Hurricane Irma is fake news"  ;D ;D

And shouldn't all those cruise ships be helping to evacuate people? wtf?
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #656 on: September 08, 2017, 11:11:24 PM »
Latest wind map suggests Jose MAY veer SSW, and Hit Antigua, after, they evac'd Barbado. non-ironic.

If it were to go south of Cuba, could change whole dynamic for the following depression

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-70.17,20.74,2130

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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #657 on: September 08, 2017, 11:20:18 PM »
Scribbler provides a nice update on Irma risks:

Title: "Powerful Irma Threatens to Put South Florida Underwater, Spill Lake Okeechobee"

https://robertscribbler.com/2017/09/08/powerful-irma-threatens-to-put-south-florida-underwater-spill-lake-okeechobee/

Extract: "Near category five strength Irma represents a major flood threat from storm surge and rainfall to South Florida. Due to its large size, strong winds, its movement toward shore atop rising seas, and ability to push a tall and wide-ranging surge of water over far-flung coastlines, Irma has the potential to put major cities like Miami under water. In addition, expected 10-15 inch rainfall over Lake Okeechobee threatens the integrity of an aging dike which, if overtopped, could result in severe flooding of inland communities."
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #658 on: September 08, 2017, 11:48:00 PM »
 5 PM update extends hurricane watches and warnings (which our time based) as the storm approaches. Increasing concern for the West Coast of Florida, where a more gradual slope makes a higher risk for storm surge.  The many bridges between the islands of Key West pose the risk that if one bridge goes out, no evacuations from the south of it are possible by road.

NWS Key West:

***THIS IS AS REAL AS IT GETS***

***NOWHERE IN THE FLORIDA KEYS WILL BE SAFE***

***YOU STILL HAVE TIME TO EVACUATE***

Please RT. #Irma
https://twitter.com/nwskeywest/status/906266219304685568
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #659 on: September 08, 2017, 11:55:11 PM »

And shouldn't all those cruise ships be helping to evacuate people? wtf?

Not everyone in entire state has to be evacuated.  There are hurricane-safe buildings, particularly newer ones in Miami, and farther inland, away from the coast.  There are shelters in every county except in Key West.  They may not be fancy, but you will survive.  After the storm... that's a whole different question.
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #660 on: September 08, 2017, 11:56:44 PM »
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #661 on: September 08, 2017, 11:58:26 PM »
Cat4 #Irma's main center of circulation is roughly 224,000 square miles (I measured #GIS). Almost the size of Texas (268, 597). Image shows:
https://mobile.twitter.com/ryanmiller_wx/status/906173571566886913
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #662 on: September 09, 2017, 12:14:48 AM »
Potential storm surge, in feet (.3m) above ground.  Waves are on top of this.
6 to 12 feet storm surge in Naples, and Sanibel Island. (Later forecasts may intensify warnings in Tampa and the "Big Bend" coast of NW Florida.)
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #663 on: September 09, 2017, 12:22:44 AM »
Don't forget that in addition to the 150mph+ winds and 10-12 feet of storm surge, Irma will bring 1-2 feet of rain to most of Florida.
https://twitter.com/ericholthaus/status/906281086103244800
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #664 on: September 09, 2017, 12:24:01 AM »
As of 5:40pm EDT Irma is forecast to make landfall in Florida as a Cat 5 hurricane:

Title: "Hurricane Irma forecast to strike Florida Keys as Category 5"

http://abcnews.go.com/US/hurricane-irma-forecast-strike-florida-keys-category/story?id=49697542

Extract: "Hurricane Irma is now forecast to hit the Florida Keys as a Category 5 storm.
Meteorologists expect Irma to make landfall in the Keys between 5 a.m. and 7 a.m. ET on Sunday. Overnight projections of Irma's path showed less of a threat to the Carolinas as the monster storm appeared likely to move directly up the middle of Florida and curve inland."
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #665 on: September 09, 2017, 12:48:51 AM »
Florida nuclear plants to shut ahead of Hurricane Irma
•Electricity generator Florida Power & Light said it will shut its two nuclear power plants before Irma comes ashore as a very powerful hurricane.
•The Energy Department said late on Thursday that the Nuclear Regulatory Commission expects Turkey Point to close on Friday evening and St. Lucie to shut about 12 hours later, depending on the storm's path.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/08/florida-nuclear-plants-to-shut-ahead-of-hurricane-irma.html
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #666 on: September 09, 2017, 01:00:16 AM »
Sigmetnow, really thanks for all your posts.

Here is a link to the last post on Arctic News by Sam Carana. He mention the relation between Sandy hitting New York and major earthquakes hitting the coast off Vancouver in 2012.

http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2017/09/extreme-weather-is-upon-us.html

https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2012/11/did-sandy-trigger-major-earthquakes-off-vancouver.html



I don't think an association between tropical cyclones and earthquakes has been shown statistically, but maybe it should be revisited....


Mexico hit by 'strongest earthquake in a century' as magnitude 8.2 tremor triggers tsunami waves
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/08/mexico-earthquake-magnitude-8-tremor-rattles-buildings-capital/

How strong is Hurricane Irma? It’s registering on earthquake-detecting seismometers
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/article171359692.html

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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #667 on: September 09, 2017, 01:03:49 AM »
Kelvin Waves and the Madden-Julian Oscillation

"Two particularly important wave types are the Convectively Coupled Kelvin Wave (CCKW), which circumnavigates the equator in about 15 to 20 days, and the Madden-Julian Oscillation (MJO), which transits the globe in 30 to 60 days.  These waves are normally initiated by large areas of thunderstorm activity over tropical regions, especially near India and southeastern Asia.  These waves are different in both frequency and direction of motion from the more well-known tropical waves that originate over Africa and often spawn tropical cyclones as they move westward across the Atlantic and eastern North Pacific basins.

Tropical cyclone formation often accompanies the passage of the “active phase” of either the faster-moving CCKWs or the slower-moving MJO.   Figure 1 shows tropical cyclone tracks over a 37-year period in active and inactive phases of the MJO as the wave moves around the globe, along with increased or decreased rainfall anomalies associated with the two phases of the MJO (Zhang 2013).

https://noaanhc.wordpress.com/author/esherard8/

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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #668 on: September 09, 2017, 01:48:23 AM »
So when, exactly, would be a good time for you? ::)

EPA chief on Irma: The time to talk climate change isn't now
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/07/politics/scott-pruitt-hurricanes-climate-change-interview/index.html
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #669 on: September 09, 2017, 02:02:08 AM »
miki, thanks for the links!

We've discussed the possibility of string storms causing earthquakes before on the forum, such as here:
http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,323.msg70415.html#msg70415
... but I guess we have not yet found a convincing study of multiple events. :)
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #670 on: September 09, 2017, 02:22:25 AM »
Weather channels and such seem a bit shy of quoting maximum gust speeds now.

Have the hurricane chaser planes stopped flying?

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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #671 on: September 09, 2017, 02:40:32 AM »
Hurricane Irma: Fears over dike prompt evacuations south of Lake Okeechobee
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/weather/hurricane/fl-reg-scott-irma-okeechobee-20170908-story.html

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Florida officials prep Lake Okeechobee for Hurricane Irma rain
Rachel Maddow reports on how Florida officials are trying to make room in Lake Okeechobee for the potential rainfall that could come with Hurricane Irma to avoid overburdening its aging dike.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/florida-officials-prep-lake-okeechobee-for-hurricane-irma-rain-1042029123704
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #672 on: September 09, 2017, 02:47:07 AM »
OT
The precipitation map above lead me to check the weather in Primm Nevada, site of the huge Ivanpah solar thermal facility.


http://www.intellicast.com/Local/Forecast.aspx?location=USNV9866


Being located on a dry lake bed, in an area known for flash floods. tonight and tomorrows rains may give us an inkling of how the facility handles heavy runoff. 1.4" may not seem much in less desiccated locals, but if the rains fall in the right locations a wall of water could wash away much of the infrastructure.


Now back to the more important news from Florida.
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #673 on: September 09, 2017, 02:50:07 AM »
Weather channels and such seem a bit shy of quoting maximum gust speeds now.

Have the hurricane chaser planes stopped flying?

Per 5 pm update, "Irma's intensity continues to fluctuate, and the
winds are estimated at 135 kt. The last minimum central pressure
was 925 mb. Another reconnaissance plane will check Irma soon."

Now seeing this:

I see an unflagged 142 kt SFMR reading, and the VDM estimates 145 kt sfc winds.  Looks like Irma is probably a cat 5 again.
https://twitter.com/tlyzawx/status/906316510049828864

NHC data (ATCF) has made Irma a category 5 hurricane again.
https://twitter.com/codyyeary/status/906315791750107137

Edit:
No bueno.
Pressure dropping. Eye contracting to 35 miles. Winds increasing at flight level.
https://twitter.com/JohnMoralesNBC6/status/906316389845270528
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #674 on: September 09, 2017, 03:01:19 AM »
Eric Fisher, Chief Meteorologist @CBSBoston:
Cookies and beer for dinner. How was your week?
https://mobile.twitter.com/ericfisher/status/906316971876212737
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #675 on: September 09, 2017, 03:12:45 AM »
Depending on how many actually leave, Irma could now be the largest evacuation in U.S. history.
Previous: 3 million in Texas for Rita (2005)
https://twitter.com/EricHolthaus/status/906317595707691008

About 5.6 million Florida residents have been told to evacuate ahead of Irma
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About 5.6 million people have been asked to leave their homes as Hurricane Irma approaches Florida, state emergency officials told the Associated Press.

Many of those evacuations are concentrated along the state's coasts and southern half, but people living farther inland, in substandard housing, have been asked to leave because of the storm, Florida's hurricane program manager Andrew Sussman told the news agency.

That would mean more than a quarter of Florida's population has been asked to get out of the destructive path Irma is expected to cut through the state once it makes landfall this weekend.

Public officials have been urging people to heed evacuation orders.

The Florida Division of Emergency Management has included a list of evacuation orders across the state, http://www.floridadisaster.org/info/ 
https://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeednews/hurricane-irma
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #676 on: September 09, 2017, 03:31:07 AM »
Within Irma's cone of uncertainty, there are 11 nuclear power plants and hundreds of hospitals.

What Lies In Irma’s Path
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-lies-in-irmas-path/
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #677 on: September 09, 2017, 04:06:11 AM »
Dvorak ADT (3rd column) suggests late intensification:
http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/adt/goesrPG/11L-list-PG.txt
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #678 on: September 09, 2017, 04:09:45 AM »
This is an absolutely chilling quote from Ed Rappaport, acting director of the National Hurricane Center and veteran meteorologist.
https://twitter.com/ericholthaus/status/906332863297138688

NHC: "It's not clear that it's a survivable situation for anybody that is still there in the Keys"
https://twitter.com/stevencejas/status/906271647426113537
Video interview at the link.
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #679 on: September 09, 2017, 05:10:55 AM »
After the 5pm update yesterday on the NHC website, we decided to get out of dodge. Live in Zephyrhills, Fl. Left this morning at 5am and are now in Ocean Springs, MS to sit out the storm. We used secondary roads to reach I-10W. Traffic on the interstate was heavy with serious congestion off and on until we were well west of Tallahassee. Not bad after until we neared Mobile, AL. Upon arriving at our destination, we went to Chili's to eat and have a stiff drink!

P.S.: Several hours after leaving home I recalled that I left our lawnmower, bicycle and charcoal grill outside in the back of our place. Decided against going back, doh!

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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #680 on: September 09, 2017, 05:37:57 AM »
After the 5pm update yesterday on the NHC website, we decided to get out of dodge. Live in Zephyrhills, Fl. Left this morning at 5am and are now in Ocean Springs, MS to sit out the storm. We used secondary roads to reach I-10W. Traffic on the interstate was heavy with serious congestion off and on until we were well west of Tallahassee. Not bad after until we neared Mobile, AL. Upon arriving at our destination, we went to Chili's to eat and have a stiff drink!

P.S.: Several hours after leaving home I recalled that I left our lawnmower, bicycle and charcoal grill outside in the back of our place. Decided against going back, doh!

BudM
Time for an electric lawnmower!


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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #681 on: September 09, 2017, 07:49:44 AM »
After the 5pm update yesterday on the NHC website, we decided to get out of dodge. Live in Zephyrhills, Fl. Left this morning at 5am and are now in Ocean Springs, MS to sit out the storm. We used secondary roads to reach I-10W. Traffic on the interstate was heavy with serious congestion off and on until we were well west of Tallahassee. Not bad after until we neared Mobile, AL. Upon arriving at our destination, we went to Chili's to eat and have a stiff drink!

P.S.: Several hours after leaving home I recalled that I left our lawnmower, bicycle and charcoal grill outside in the back of our place. Decided against going back, doh!

BudM
Good for you BudM. Better safe than worried, especially as the track shifted westward again.

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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #682 on: September 09, 2017, 09:20:09 AM »
Live in Zephyrhills, Fl. Left this morning at 5am and are now in Ocean Springs, MS to sit out the storm.

Zephyrhills appears to be right on the path of the eye of Irma, so good for you getting out !
I'm not sure if you can find your lawn mower once you get back though.
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #683 on: September 09, 2017, 10:25:59 AM »
It is almost surprising how there was a brief moment when Irma wasn't causing major damage.
Now Cuba's turn is up...
There is a little place called Ragged Island that just took the worst Irma has to offer.
Population 72, all descendants from original settlers apparently.
I can't imagine much is left of it by now if anything.

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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #684 on: September 09, 2017, 10:39:24 AM »
Zephyrhills, Fl.

Zephyr - a gentle breeze. From Zephyrus, the Greek god of the West Wind.
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #685 on: September 09, 2017, 11:00:35 AM »
Everyone's probably seen this already, but if not, a short reminder of the situation after the hurricanes have passed: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2009228765754758&id=114517875225866
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #686 on: September 09, 2017, 11:52:12 AM »
A plea for help from a St. Maarten resident, one of many.
José will have to make quite a turn to avoid Barbuda and possibly St. Maarten.
Nailbiting stuff.

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Please try to get this in the news!!! Sept 11. Post Hurricane update: island is still in chaos, people are not poorly/not informed by government officials, no clear communication channels, no cars with megaphones trying to inform, help and advice, no water supply, no food supply, all supermarkets are compromised and empty by now. Although we see some marines at critical road junctions, security and safety is a major potential issue. People will do anything to get foods and water, even if this means to rob houses!! This WILL happen if we don't get more help from police/marines. They need to secure entrances of all areas and resorts!! It's also adviced to have food packages air drops from airplanes. The sooner, the better. Also I don't see any help from medical care and advice on how to deal with sanitair and waste, this WILL CAUSE epidemics if not managed and controlled. Is not clear to all (who dont have communication) what the next Hurricane José is about and how to prepare. We try to spread the news because due to all the debris, broken houses and expected heavy rain, this can be even worst than Irma. About us: we are still good and we will be for at least another week due to good supply. I am helping neighbours with their houses, safety and information distribution. I am trying to get hold of government to see if I can help organizing and prioritising. If someone reeds this, I have all the skills and spirit, I want to do MORE to help the people of Sint Maarten. I try to be online every day around this time so please PM me. With good spirit and Hugs for now and again, know I am triving and excelling in these situation.

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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #687 on: September 09, 2017, 12:13:00 PM »
Road Town airport BVI.

I spent some time there back in the 90's. There were chickens on the runway then.

Just how you come back from this sort of impact I just can't imagine.....



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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #688 on: September 09, 2017, 12:36:19 PM »
Replies to this tweet are heartbreaking. Keys are likely to get a direct hit & some don't have the means to leave. 
https://twitter.com/ericholthaus/status/906415370248052743

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***THIS IS AS REAL AS IT GETS***

***NOWHERE IN THE FLORIDA KEYS WILL BE SAFE***

***YOU STILL HAVE TIME TO EVACUATE***

Please RT. #Irma
https://twitter.com/nwskeywest/status/906266219304685568



NWS Key West:
 We are still here and we're safe, our office is rated to withstand a category 5 hurricane.
https://twitter.com/nwskeywest/status/906441740642607104

 We will be here for the duration, watching over the Keys.
https://twitter.com/nwskeywest/status/906441879213895680

5am:
A @FlKeysMosquito sensor on Lower Matecumbe Key recently recorded a wind gust of 66 mph (57 knots). #Irma #FLwx #FLKeys
https://twitter.com/nwskeywest/status/906441763556089856

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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #689 on: September 09, 2017, 12:40:16 PM »
During times of high tide, water levels will be rising higher due to #Irma's approach @wsvn
https://twitter.com/PhilFerro7/status/906462761458257920
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #690 on: September 09, 2017, 12:43:20 PM »
5am update. Slight westward jog to the official track.
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #691 on: September 09, 2017, 12:45:39 PM »
A drive through the streets of Barbuda. The damage is truly horrendous
https://twitter.com/BBCLBicker/status/906182294129565697
Brief video at the link.
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #692 on: September 09, 2017, 12:50:07 PM »
Charleston, South Carolina:

Surge #flooding in #Charleston harbor Monday could top that from #Matthew, only exceeded by Hugo, despite #Irma weakening by that time.
https://twitter.com/wxjerdman/status/906458907941523456
Data on top three historic crests at the link.

Today, high tide will occur ~ 10:40 AM (SC) & 10:50 AM (GA). Shallow coastal flooding will be possible 1-2 hours before & after high tide.
https://twitter.com/NWSCharlestonSC/status/906457245264859136
Tide gauge graphs at the link.
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #693 on: September 09, 2017, 12:56:18 PM »
While the threat of winds has decreased, there is now an increased risk of flooding #Irma @wsvn
https://twitter.com/PhilFerro7/status/906461438465769472
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #694 on: September 09, 2017, 12:59:28 PM »
If sheltering in place, gather your family in a safe, interior room with no windows #FLPrepares
https://twitter.com/FLSERT/status/906370340070313986
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #695 on: September 09, 2017, 01:07:07 PM »
[7 hours ago]: @FLGovScott urges people in west coast evacuation zones - from Manatee to Collier - to leave by noon tomorrow or find shelter.
https://twitter.com/MaryEllenKlas/status/906356438896922624



Florida Governor Rick Scott’s evacuation order hits close to home
Gov. Rick Scott’s $15 million waterfront mansion is along a Naples coast that could get up to 12 feet of storm surge. He evacuated his family to Tallahassee on Friday. Naples Daily News
http://amp.miamiherald.com/news/weather/hurricane/article172221727.html


Gov's office confirmed this morning that Scott's family *did* evac w/ him to gov's mansion in Tallahassee.
https://twitter.com/ByKristenMClark/status/906462054294462465

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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #696 on: September 09, 2017, 01:33:20 PM »
One has to ponder how the effects of Hurricane Irma might have been lessened if this climate change denying administration had acted differently.

Is man-made climate change real? Florida’s top GOP leaders won’t say
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article154026974.html
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Fun times at a Florida Senate budget subcommittee.

Awkward: Watch as Florida lawmaker mocks Rick Scott official for refusing to say ‘climate change’
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/03/awkward-watch-as-florida-lawmaker-mocks-rick-scott-official-for-refusing-to-say-climate-change/
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #697 on: September 09, 2017, 03:14:52 PM »
A plea for help from a St. Maarten resident, one of many.

I sent it to a Netherlands english language newspaper NLtimes.nl
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #698 on: September 09, 2017, 03:25:25 PM »
A plea for help from a St. Maarten resident, one of many.

I sent it to a Netherlands english language newspaper NLtimes.nl

Well done!
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Re: Hurricane season 2017
« Reply #699 on: September 09, 2017, 04:10:55 PM »
2.5 hours ago.

#Irma is located 225 miles south of Miami, but has already brought wind gusts of 50 mph to Miami. Dangerous weather already impacting S. FL
https://twitter.com/tropicaltidbits/status/906496248248758272
Radar GIF at the link.
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