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Re: US intervention in foreign lands
« Reply #550 on: January 07, 2019, 05:52:21 AM »
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Brain damage, loss of balance and "poor comprehension" by Americans.....

And that was their general state when they arrived! The crickets made it even worse ... hehehehe
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« Reply #551 on: January 08, 2019, 08:16:32 AM »
Something for the future, because it will be come an issue; ie Mexico the latest in the "Venezuela/Ecuador/Cuba" ilk.

The new govt ( President) there is an entirely new kettle of fish and the US will not like it one bit.

Nearly 1,000 Mexican soldiers were deployed by the president across facilities owned by state oil company Pemex on Monday to counter nationwide gasoline theft that has resulted in fuel shortages in the country.

Some 900 soldiers entered Petroleos Mexicanos (Pemex) facilities as part of the government’s plan to battle illegal petrol siphoning, Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador announced on Monday.

Overall, a total of 4,000 military and police personnel will be deployed at refineries to deal with fuel shortages plaguing the country. 


Just a heads up ... didn't take long for 'exceptional actions' to happen as they did promise to attempt to eradicate corruption and graft across the country.
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« Reply #552 on: January 09, 2019, 06:20:30 AM »
Nick Turse at commondreams: Pentagon a little coy about revealing number of foreign bases

And troop numbers. And number of countries undergoing liberation.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/01/08/bases-bases-everywhere-except-pentagons-report

C'mon, Pentagon. We know you're there. Your opposition knows you're there. We taxpayers employ you, how come you don't tell us ?

O silly me. We just pay you, but you don't answer to us. Just the oligarchs.

This kinda thing makes me wanna go full Amish.

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« Reply #553 on: January 11, 2019, 09:24:33 PM »
Democrats for War:

" what is remarkable about the new polling data on Syria is that the vast bulk of support for keeping troops there comes from Democratic Party voters, while Republicans and independents overwhelming favor their removal. "

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/11/as-democratic-elites-reunite-with-neocons-the-partys-voters-are-becoming-far-more-militaristic-and-pro-war-than-republicans/

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« Reply #554 on: January 11, 2019, 11:53:13 PM »
RW Neo-Nazi and newly appointed US Deputy Sheriff in the region, Poland has arrested a sales director for Chinese telecoms giant Huawei over allegations of working with Beijing’s intelligence services. Huawei is facing increased spying accusations from the US and its allies.

Has nothing at all to do with the looming global 5G build out of course. Commercial interests never ever influence Geo-political or national security imperatives ..... like never.

Besides, everyone knows China is the new Evil Empire who want to take over all the western spheres national telecoms to make it ever so much easier once the Invasions get under way.

Meanwhile in somewhat curiouser news Poland suddenly becomes the GO TO place for Global Summits about .... the Middle East & that Evil Iran ..... huh? WTF?

The United States plans to jointly host a global summit focused on the Middle East, particularly Iran, in Poland next month, the US State Department said on Friday. The gathering will take place in Warsaw on February 13-14. US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told Fox News in an interview to air on Friday that the meeting would “focus on Middle East stability and peace and freedom and security here in this region, and that includes an important element of making sure that Iran is not a destabilizing influence.” Pompeo said the meeting would bring together dozens of countries from around the world, Reuters reported.

Warsaw ~ is the new Zurich!
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« Reply #556 on: January 14, 2019, 10:49:16 AM »
I'm old enough to remember when sanctions and sporting blockades were put onto South Africa. Like most other sanctions regimes until lately there were never sanctions placed on nations a country traded with because they didn't also place sanctions on south africa. If that had been the case then half the nations of the world would have been placing trade and financing sanctions on the USA for a decade or more. But that didn't happen.

How does one deal with a school yard bully? Pretty much the same way one handles any bully. One approach is to always remember "To choose your friends, don't let your friends choose you."

What's the USA up to lately with it's "friends" in Europe? Oh only threatening them endlessly. Of course most well informed and thinking people already realize the USA is off with the faeries and off the planet bat shit crazy generally speaking. So no surprises here.

It's the US Ambassador to Germany turn again:

 ‘Consider the danger’: US ambassador threatens to sanction German Nord Stream 2 companies
Published time: 13 Jan, 2019

US Ambassador to Germany Richard Grenell warned companies based in the country that they may face sanctions from Washington over their participation in the Nord Stream 2 project.

“As you are aware, the United States strongly opposes Nord Stream 2… The pipeline poses serious geopolitical consequences to our European allies and partners,” he wrote in a letter obtained by Bild am Sonntag newspaper.

“We continue to stress that firms operating in the Russian energy export pipeline sector are engaging in activities that carry significant sanctions risk,” Grenell asserted.

Every German company contributing to Nord Stream 2 should “consider the danger this project represents to European energy security as well as reputational costs and sanctions risk associated with it,” he added.

https://www.rt.com/news/448696-us-ambassador-threat-nordstream/

Of course everyone should know the US seeks to export it's own LNG to Europe to replace that coming from Russia .... but no it must be because Russia is so evil and untrustworthy. But with friends like the USA who needs any enemies? No one. The Europeans have more than enough on their plate already. And they need cheap reliable Gas which is what Russia is providing.

But this is what "bullies" do. Treat everyone they meet like shit when they make their own choices in their own self-interest.

DW en report
US Ambassador Richard Grenell threatens German firms over Russian pipeline

The US ambassador to Berlin, Richard Grenell, has sent threatening letters to German companies working on the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, according to a German newspaper. Grenell reportedly warns of possible sanctions.
https://www.dw.com/en/us-ambassador-richard-grenell-threatens-german-firms-over-russian-pipeline/a-47062540

Original report @ bild paywalled
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bild.de%2Fbild-plus%2Fpolitik%2Ftrump%2Fpolitik-ausland%2Fus-botschafter-grenell-versucht-deutsche-firmen-zu-erpressen-59508930
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« Reply #557 on: January 14, 2019, 11:43:25 PM »
imho the U.S. bullying and belligerence is going to get a lot worse (and more hysterical than it already is) before it finally gets better and reason and respect returns to the discussion tables (but don't hold your breath.)

Response to US global bullying: Iran, India ditch dollar to continue trading oil despite sanctions

by Darius Shahtahmasebi a New Zealand-based legal and political analyst, currently specializing in immigration, refugee and humanitarian law.

Prior to Washington’s Iran-sanctions regime, Iran was India’s third largest supplier of crude oil (it is now about sixth place). It is no surprise therefore, that India’s Foreign Ministry spokesperson responded by saying that Haley had “her views, and our views on Iran are very clear.” He also warned that India would “take all necessary steps, including engagement with relevant stakeholders to ensure our energy security.”

It does seem like the days of foreign states being bullied into adopting a dangerous foreign policy are over. If Washington has any doubt about this, they need only turn to this exclusive Reuters report which revealed that India had begun paying Iran for its oil in rupees, according to a senior bank official, under the guise of a six-month waiver which was given to seven other countries (including China). According to the report, in a previous round of US-imposed sanctions, India settled approximately half of oil payments in rupees and the remainder in euros. However, this time around, all payments are to be made in rupees.

Furthermore, the agreement, worth $1.5 billion, reportedly hands Iran a tax break of $637 million. For its part, Iran will use its rupee supply to fund its imports of pharmaceuticals and other items from India, invest in Indian businesses and pay for Iranian missions and students in India.
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/448791-iran-india-oil-dollar-rupee/


Ditching Russian gas will be economic suicide for Europe

“The more the US puts pressure on Europeans, the more there is a risk that Europeans try to detach themselves from the US and try to make a better deal with Russia,” Thomann, who heads Eurocontinent geopolitical research, told RT.

“We cannot abandon the import of Russian gas, this will be economic suicide. So the Americans also have a limit of their pressure capacity,” the analyst stressed.

"The matter of European energy policy must be decided in Europe, not in the US,” said German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas.

“The US ambassador seems to give the impression he is a viceroy of the Washington emperor,” top Left Party MP Fabio De Masi said, urging the White House to reprimand Grenell.

“The US ambassador using direct threats towards German companies is a new unacceptable strengthening of tone in the transatlantic relationship, which the Federal Government should protest against,” said the German foreign policy spokesman for the CDU/CSU Party Juergen Hardt.

Nord Stream 2, a joint venture of Russia’s Gazprom and five European energy majors, is currently one third complete. The €9.5 billion pipeline is projected to double capacity of Russia’s gas exports to Germany via the Baltic Sea, and is supposed to come into operation by the end of the current year.

https://www.rt.com/business/448755-nord-stream-us-economic-suicide/

How many other nations in the last half of 2018 alone have been setting up alt-deals to stop trading in US dollars? I've lost count.
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« Reply #558 on: January 16, 2019, 08:15:25 AM »
Today's Democrats outdo Republicans WRT war mongering.

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/11/as-democratic-elites-reunite-with-neocons-the-partys-voters-are-becoming-far-more-militaristic-and-pro-war-than-republicans/

Trump was the last presidential candidate to run on a platform of "Peace in our time", perhaps Tulsi can bring the party to it's senses?
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« Reply #559 on: January 16, 2019, 10:24:13 AM »
Memo justifying half a million deaths: Amanpour's husband James Rubin making the case for gutting Syria

"Overthrowing Assad would be nothing less than “transformative,”  "

"Iran would be strategically isolated ... The resulting regime in Syria will see the United States as a friend, not an enemy. ... For Israel, the rationale for a bolt from the blue attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities would be eased ... "

https://consortiumnews.com/2019/01/13/the-memo-that-helped-kill-a-half-million-people-in-syria/

And a much more thoughtful article by Glass in Harper's, tho he does try to absolve the best and brightest in the Obama czarship:

"In fact, there was no strategy. "

" ... they wanted to do the right thing. In Rhodes’s case, anything. “Even though I had misgivings about our Syria policy,” he wrote, “I was glad we were doing something.” "

"on the assumption that “this guy [Assad] is toast"

"Lavrov also warned Clinton that removing Assad would lead to chaos and jihadism. “They had a fair point in saying we didn’t have a plan for Syria if we got rid of Assad,” Gordon admitted. “And, to be honest, I don’t think we were ever in a position to convincingly say, ‘No, no, no, if Assad falls, it won’t be like Iraq or Afghanistan.’ ” "

"General Dempsey urged Obama to act: “Up to this point, he had argued that Syria was a slippery slope where there was little chance of success. Now he said that something needed to be done even if we didn’t know what would happen after we took action.”  "

"There was no policy. They were making it up as they went along."

" ‘Tell me how this ends.’ No one could answer with confidence that we would not wind up on a slippery slope, getting in deeper and deeper than we intended. "

"The compromise between direct military involvement and staying out was the route taken by many presidents before Obama: a covert operation to raise an insurgent army and train it in nearby countries; provide weapons, sustenance, and communications; and oversee the military campaign. It was high-risk for the locals and casualty-­free for the Americans."

" It was a recipe for failure as much as for carnage."

confirms Hersh's ratline report: "A major source of weapons for the Syrian opposition was Libya ... supply chain became public after the September 11 murder of US ambassador Christopher Stevens in the Benghazi compound ... "

" the program was benefiting religious fanatics more than any moderate, secular oppositionists."

"A state of lunacy was reached when the respective insurgent bands of the CIA’s covert and the Defense Department’s overt programs turned their American weapons on each other. "

“No one was sure it would work, but we had to do something.”

"The result of US meddling in Syria was failure on all counts ... Syrian conspiracy theorists claim the US goal was to destroy Syria, as it did Iraq, to protect Israel. Only if that were true could the United States be said to have achieved any objective."

"Trump canceled Obama’s Title 50 program that armed Syrian oppositionists in July 2017."

" I think the original sin is getting on board for supporting an armed opposition that had little prospect of actually bringing about a political transition in a more stable Syria."

 “Once we topple the regime, are the stable moderates going to come to power and govern Syria? I don’t think so. And then you’ve just got a different form of chaos that we’re responsible for.”

"Obama’s foreign policy team had advanced degrees from Harvard, Yale, and Georgetown, as well as Rhodes scholarships, and better credentials than most Fortune 500 boards, university faculties, and think tanks. They were “the best and the brightest” of our time" ... they go on to think tanks and academe to await the call to serve again."

Read the whole thing:

https://harpers.org/archive/2019/02/american-involvement-in-syria/

I wouldn't trust those "best and brightest" to organize a beer bash in a brewery.

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« Reply #560 on: January 16, 2019, 05:46:22 PM »
Trump said the US troops would leave Syria (immediately?)as Isis was defeated.


https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/16/us-troops-reportedly-among-casualties-in-isis-claimed-syria-attack.html
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US troops killed in Syria, adding new doubt about Trump’s claim that ISIS is defeated
PUBLISHED 3 HOURS AGO | UPDATED AN HOUR AGO


The blast took place at 1:00 p.m. local time after a suicide bomber in civilian clothing approached coalition forces in the center of Manbij, according to the report.
ISIS claimed responsibility in a post via its Amaq news agency but did not produce evidence in support of the claim.

An attack in the northern Syrian town of Manbij has resulted in multiple casualties including U.S. troops, a senior Kurdish security official confirmed to NBC News.

The blast took place at 1:00 p.m. local time after a suicide bomber in civilian clothing approached coalition forces in the center of Manbij, according to the report. The security official wasn’t able to confirm the number of injured or dead. A U.S. official later told Reuters that four U.S. soldiers were killed and three wounded in the blast.

ISIS claimed responsibility in a post via its Amaq news agency but did not produce evidence in support of the claim.

U.S. troops have been stationed in Manbij in support of local partners, the Syrian Democratic Forces, as part of the anti-IS coalition and as a buffer between Kurdish militias within the SDF and Turkish forces, who view the Kurdish fighters as terrorists.

The attack comes less than a month after President Donald Trump’s surprise announcement to withdraw all U.S. troops from Syria, on the premise that ISIS had been defeated.
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