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« Reply #550 on: January 26, 2019, 10:11:59 PM »
Monroe resurgent: Venezuela needs liberating, lapdogs of empire agree

Maduro:  “Don’t trust the gringos. They don’t have friends or loyalties. They only have interests, guts, and the ambition to take Venezuela’s oil, gas, and gold.”

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/01/24/trump-backs-overthrow-venezuelan-president-recognizes-right-wing-opposition-figure

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-47014322

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« Reply #552 on: January 29, 2019, 06:52:23 AM »
Victory into Defeat: Astore at tomdispatch on losing wars

" “We don’t win [wars] anymore,” said candidate Donald Trump in 2016 and he wasn’t wrong about that. "

"What’s made America’s leaders, civilian and military, quite so proficient when it comes to turning victories into defeats? And what does that tell us about them and their wars? "

" ... for so many in the Pentagon high command, it’s perfectly acceptable for Americans to face a “generational struggle” in Afghanistan (and elsewhere) ..."

" ...  according to them, often in testimony before Congress, whether in Iraq, Afghanistan, or elsewhere, that military is always making progress. Victory, so they claim, is invariably around the next corner, which they’re constantly turning or getting ready to turn."

I think the answer to Astore's question in the second quote is very simple and very venal: war makes money for the warmongers. The generals Astore excoriates are or will soon be very rich men and women as they move into the war industry. War is their business, and business is good. The costs of war, the deaths, the maiming, the rape, the loot, the starvation, the homeless are external costs, not borne by the warmongers. 

Read it anyway:

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/176520/tomgram%3A_william_astore%2C_turning_victory_into_defeat/

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« Reply #553 on: January 29, 2019, 08:30:35 PM »
Taliban-USA peace deal doubts on human rights: From America's Finest News Source

"we do have lingering concerns about whether human rights will be respected "

https://www.theonion.com/taliban-agrees-to-peace-deal-despite-concerns-about-ame-1832133149

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« Reply #554 on: January 29, 2019, 08:46:15 PM »
How the sausage is made: Blumenthal and Cohen at mintpress on the mechanics of regime change

https://www.mintpressnews.com/the-making-of-juan-guaido-how-the-us-regime-change-laboratory-created-venezuela-coup-leader/254387/

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« Reply #555 on: January 30, 2019, 05:07:27 AM »
How the sausage is made: Blumenthal and Cohen at mintpress on the mechanics of regime change

https://www.mintpressnews.com/the-making-of-juan-guaido-how-the-us-regime-change-laboratory-created-venezuela-coup-leader/254387/

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Wow!
What an uninspiring ass. ::)


Stringing steel wires across highways to decapitate unsuspecting motorcyclists is a form of non-violent protest that certainly deserves to be rewarded by the North American Democracies and England?


The Right Wing Koch Suckers, not content with crippling Venezuela's economy, anoint their blood stained puppet as the President, even though he's unknown to most Venezuelans, and is feared and reviled most that do recognize his name (unlike Secretary of State Pompano, who didn't even bother to learn the name of his chosen thug.)


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« Reply #556 on: January 30, 2019, 09:27:04 AM »
How the sausage is made: tomdispatch on the revolving door between Ministry of War and Industry of War

"Patrick Shanahan, who spent 30 years at Boeing, the Pentagon’s second largest contractor, as the Trump administration’s acting secretary of defense."

"William Lynn, President Obama’s first deputy secretary of defense, had been a Raytheon lobbyist. Ashton Carter, his successor, was a consultant for the same company. One of President George W. Bush’s deputies, Gordon England, had been president of the General Dynamics Fort Worth Aircraft Company (later sold to Lockheed Martin)."

"Charlie Wilson, head of General Motors, whom President Dwight Eisenhower appointed to lead the Department of Defense (DoD) more than 60 years ago, and John F. Kennedy’s first defense secretary, Robert McNamara, who ran the Ford Motor Company before joining the administration."

Now that I think about it Charlie Wilson is a recurring name. There was

wikipedia:

"Charles Erwin Wilson should not be confused with Charles Edward Wilson, who was the CEO of General Electric and served President Truman as the head of the Office of Defense Mobilization."

and then there was

Charles Nesbitt Wilson who engineered the afghanistan thing in the 80's for Zbig and his motley warmongering crew:

wikipedia:

"leading Congress into supporting Operation Cyclone, the largest-ever Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) covert operation, which, under the Carter and Reagan administration, supplied military equipment including weapons such as obsolete FIM-43 Redeye MANPADS surface-to-air anti-aircraft missiles and paramilitary officers from their Special Activities Division to the Afghan Mujahideen during the Soviet–Afghan War. "

But, nyhoo, back to tomdispatch:

"State Department Acting Assistant Secretary for Legislative Affairs Charles Faulkner, a former lobbyist for Raytheon, advocated giving Saudi Arabia a clean bill of health on its efforts to avoid hitting civilians in its air strikes in Yemen, lest Raytheon lose a lucrative bomb deal."

"Secretary of the Air Force Heather Wilson is a former lobbyist for Lockheed Martin. Ellen Lord, who heads procurement at the Pentagon, worked at Textron, a producer of bombs and military helicopters. Secretary of the Army Mark Esper -- rumored as a possible replacement for Shanahan as secretary of defense -- was once a top lobbyist at Raytheon. Undersecretary of Defense for Policy John Rood was a senior vice president at Lockheed Martin. And the latest addition to the club is Charles Kupperman, who has been tapped as deputy national security advisor. His career includes stints at both Boeing and Lockheed Martin. (His claim to fame: asserting that the United States could win a nuclear war.)"

"Retired Vice Admiral Jeffrey Wieringa, who led the Pentagon’s arms sales office, is a case in point. In that role, he helped promote sales of U.S. weaponry globally. Perhaps as a result, he “earned” himself a position as president for global services and support at Boeing less than a year after he retired. He’s far from alone. Retired Rear Admiral Donald Gaddis, a program officer for Navy air systems, also joined the company, as did retired Air Force Major General Jack Catton, Jr., who served as the director of requirements for the Air Combat Command before moving to Boeing. Retired Vice Admiral Mark Harnitchek, the former head of the Defense Logistics Agency, charged with managing $35 billion in goods and services across the DoD annually, similarly became a vice president at Boeing."

"lobbying restrictions on such former officials can be circumvented if they label themselves “consultants” or “business development executives.” Similarly, former Pentagon officials can go to work for an arms maker they once awarded a contract to as long as they’re hired by a different division of that company."

War is truly the self licking ice cream cone. Whats not to like ? we all get rich, right ? Someone else picks up the tab. All those collateral damage dead people dont write us any checks anyway.

Read the whole thing:

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/176521/tomgram%3A_smithberger_and_hartung%2C_the_pentagon%27s_revolving_door_spins_faster/

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« Reply #557 on: January 31, 2019, 04:26:15 PM »
Just how do foreigners rallying around an unelected (unelectable)? usurper further the cause of democracy?


I happened to be in Havana when Chavez and Castro announced their Doctors for Oil program. Those Venezuelans that flew to Miami for their check-ups were aghast at the give away The 90+% who had never before received quality any healthcare probably still cast their vote for The Revolution.


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« Reply #558 on: February 02, 2019, 07:24:59 AM »
Counterpunch has several articles on the curren attempts to topple the Maduro government in Venezuela:

Dolack with some context:

"It is also preposterous to assert that “socialism has failed” in Venezuela, when 70 percent of the country’s economy is in private hands, the country is completely integrated into the world capitalist system and it is (overly) dependent on a commodity with a price that wildly fluctuates on capitalist markets. Venezuela is a capitalist country that does far more than most to ameliorate the conditions of capitalism and in which socialism remains an aspiration. If something has “failed,” it is capitalism. Leaving much of the economy in the hands of capitalists leaves them with the ability to sabotage an economy, a lesson learned in painful fashion during the 1980s in Sandinista Nicaragua."

"The United States has militarily invaded Latin American and Caribbean countries 96 times, including 48 times in the 20th century. That total constitutes only direct interventions and doesn’t include coups fomented by the U.S. ..."

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/02/01/sorting-through-the-lies-about-venezuela/

Rangel points out that Guaido may be made a martyr:

"a collective fantasy all about liberating a subjugated people.:

“This is a siege. There’s a script. It’s the format they applied in Libya and we see the same actions rolling out now, one after the other,”

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/02/01/the-chain-of-command-is-clear-must-guaido-go-from-hero-to-martyr/

Leech could write for the onion:

"I, Garry Leech, declare myself president of the United States of America."

"In the same manner that the new self-declared president of Venezuela, Juan Guaidó, with the backing of the US government, is restoring democracy in Venezuela: through the ouster of a democratically elected leader."

"One thing that Guaidó does have going for him that I don’t at this point is foreign recognition of his self-declared presidency. But I intend to fix that by working covertly with the governments of Russia and China ..."

"There is also the need for humanitarian intervention to end the suffering endured by so many US Americans ...  some 44,000 people die annually in the United States due to a lack of access to affordable health care ... 23 percent of children in the world’s richest nation live in poverty ... incarcerates more of its own citizens than any other nation. With 2.3 million prisoners, the ‘land of the free’ has more people in prison than China ... despite constituting only 13 percent of the nation’s drug users, Blacks represented 58 percent of imprisoned drug offenders ..."

"I call on the heroic members of the US Armed Forces to no longer obey former president Trump and to instead recognize me as their new commander-in-chief. In fact, in the name of democracy, I ask all citizens of the world to recognize me as the new legitimate president of the United States of America."

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/02/01/i-declare-myself-president-of-the-united-states-of-america/

Pagliccia is more serious on the threats to Venezuela:

"appointing oneself president or prime minister of a country is unconstitutional"

"this was done with the full and overt interference from foreign countries. And this breaks all sorts of international laws. Principally, it goes against the UN Charter and the OAS 1948 Charter."

"sanctions can only be enforced by resolution of the UN Security Council. Any other sanction unilaterally imposed is illegal in the eyes of the community of nations according to the UN Charter"

"I was forbidden by the Canadian government to vote at the Venezuelan consulate together with all Venezuelans across Canada ... The Canadian government deemed the elections “fraudulent” even before they took place!"

"the Canadian government is complicit in a US sponsored coup attempt in Venezuela."

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/02/01/who-needs-elections-ask-the-us-about-the-government-your-country-should-have/

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« Reply #559 on: February 05, 2019, 12:34:10 AM »
Taibbi at rollingstone on US senate endorsement of war:

"But every Senate Democrat who’s even rumored to be running for president voted nay. The list included Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Kirsten Gillibrand, Amy Klobuchar and Jeff Merkley. Sherrod Brown did not vote.

Was it possible that their reluctance was connected to the fact that survey after survey shows the public has lost appetite for our Middle East wars ... "

" ... the Senate never demanded a vote on the presence of American troops ..."

"Yet when Trump decided he was going to withdraw forces from Syria and Afghanistan, suddenly it was We Are The World time on the Hill. Republicans and the non-presidential candidates on the Democrat side joined hands to renounce the executive branch for daring to withdraw troops from somewhere without permission."

"When Trump tried to withdraw troops from two countries, what happened? Congress, snoring on this issue since at least 2001, threw a fit ..."

"If Congress refuses to stop wars and the president isn’t allowed to, exactly where does the ordinary person have input on these questions? "

" ... they’ve lost confidence in Washington’s ability to avoid making these situations worse through military action ... "

read the whole thing:

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/syria-afghanistan-vote-788308/

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« Reply #560 on: February 05, 2019, 12:41:38 AM »
Wonders will never cease: chief warmongering publication reaches Kronstadt moment, recants

"Mr. Trump’s foreign policy ... is right ...  to scale back a global conflict that appears to have no outer bound."

Bet it hurt to say that. All this time you guys were for "Bellum sine fine," no matter which puppet was in power. And Trump could do no right.

" This page has been supportive of the war in Afghanistan since it began."

No shit.

"Events have shown us to have been overly optimistic ..."

You don't say ?

"The plan is failing. "

When did you come to this stunning revelation ?

"It is time to face the cruel truth that at best, the war is deadlocked, and at worst, it is hopeless. "

Alas !

"a negotiated capitulation"

Run away !

"The military has given honorable service. "

Never mind about the war crimes.

" It’s time to bring them home. "

What's the matter ? Mil-ind didn't buy enuf ads in your rag this quarter ?

I refuse to make it easy. Search for NYT editorial, if you really want to read yellow journalism.

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« Reply #561 on: February 06, 2019, 07:49:19 AM »
As does Empire, so do satraps: Ian Cobain at middleeasteye

" allowed soldiers to shoot unarmed civilians who were suspected of keeping them under surveillance"

" casualties included a number of children and teenage boys"

"infantrymen allege that they ...  were at one point told that they had permission to shoot anyone seen holding a mobile telephone, carrying a shovel, or acting in any way suspiciously."

"one of his officers confessed to his men ...  after the child’s father carried his body to the entrance ...and demanded an explanation."

" a cover-up was mounted after the fatal shooting of two unarmed teenage boys ... A pair of Soviet-era weapons were removed from a store at the British soldiers’ base, he said, and placed next to the bodies to give the false impression that the teenagers had been armed Taliban fighters."

" ... witnessed the fatal shootings of significant numbers of civilians in Basra, and does not believe that all the victims were keeping British troops under surveillance"

" ...  were promised that they would be protected in the event of any investigation .. Just say you genuinely thought your life was at risk ... "

“without ministers having to tell parliament and cause a big hullabaloo across the liberal sections of the media”

"under the new rules they could shoot anyone seen with a mobile telephone, carrying a shovel, or acting suspiciously, such as being on the roof of a building."

"soldiers say they were not expected to ask for permission before opening fire."

“Anyone you deem is a terrorist, you shoot them”

 “We were shooting old men, young men. This is what I witnessed. I have never seen such lawlessness.”

"talked repeatedly of how “they wanted a kill” before their tour ended. "

“We saw him working in his field, and when we came under fire we saw him running away. He wasn’t in the same direction as the Taliban, he had his back towards us, and he was just shot in the back.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/exclusive-british-army-permitted-shooting-civilians-iraq-and-afghanistan

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« Reply #562 on: February 06, 2019, 07:53:46 AM »
My, my. Karzai back in the game. I guess the Popalazai won't let him out as long as he sticks about in Afghanistan. If he stays, his people insist he is a power player.

"A new round of talks involving the Taliban will begin Tuesday in Moscow, and once again Afghanistan’s Ghani government is not invited."

"the negotiations will see the Taliban meeting with dozens of Afghan opposition figures. Among them is former President Hamid Karzai ..."

https://news.antiwar.com/2019/02/04/afghan-govt-furious-as-taliban-heads-to-russia-for-talks/

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« Reply #563 on: February 06, 2019, 07:55:59 AM »
Snider at antiwar takes a walk down memory lane: deja vu all over again, like yogi berra said

"A ... Venezuelan president with left leaning politics who clashed with conservatives and governed as a nationalist who was concerned with American power and influence in Latin America  ... taken out of power with US assistance. "

2019 ? no, 1908.

Read the whole thing:

https://original.antiwar.com/Ted_Snider/2019/02/03/what-the-media-wont-tell-you-about-the-venezuelan-coup/

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« Reply #564 on: February 06, 2019, 10:08:37 AM »
Pompeo seized the Venezuelan moneys for something else than Venezuela. I didn't know he wants a wall too, but it's a quick conclusion. Please prove me wrong. Do we see an internal republican fight over foreign moneys of a c. 0.7% of the cost of the wall. Will this break up the predator party.
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« Reply #565 on: February 06, 2019, 10:18:11 AM »
Some more from neocon psychopath Max Boot (in a normal, sane country, people like this wouldn't have such easy access to media):

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« Reply #566 on: February 08, 2019, 12:34:46 AM »

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« Reply #567 on: February 10, 2019, 01:54:23 AM »
Eliot Abrams up to his old trix again: Arms seized off US flagged plane in Venezuela from Miami.

The quantity is laughably small, the plane had made eight flights in all to Venezuela, so conceivably there were more. But this is exactly what you need for a Ukrainian style false flag attack on a mass gathering, and then blame the government ...

Another Maidan coming up is my guess. Sorta like the chemical attacks in Syria every time the US made noises about pulling out.

That airline companies involved have ties to CIA rendition flights.

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/latin-america/article225949200.html#cardLink=row4_card1

https://www.miamiherald.com/article226011940.html

This guy is connecting the dots:

https://twitter.com/steffanwatkins/status/1094008901618552833

Another interesting link is Freeland: Canadian Foreign Minister.

https://off-guardian.org/2019/02/07/how-chrystia-freeland-organized-donald-trumps-coup-in-venezuela/

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« Reply #568 on: February 10, 2019, 07:27:23 PM »
American hero:

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« Reply #569 on: February 11, 2019, 09:41:13 AM »
Scheer Intelligence has a very goot interview with Ron Kovic and Danny Sjursen. Ron Kovic is the man who is depicted in the Oliver Stone film "Born on the Fourth of July."

Sjursen: " And I would submit that between Vietnam and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, in one sense we, the collective we, this society has learned very little, and made some of the same mistakes. But then in another sense, the foreign policy elites have learned something rather profound. "

"the foreign policy elite, the militarists who run this government, learned a different lesson. And the lesson they learned is that if you conscript people, if you draft people, if you bring the American people along into a war, then there might be protests. There might be people who turn against that war when the time comes. But if you send a small group of volunteers over, and over, and over again, even to fruitless wars that are not in our national security interests—like Iraq, like Afghanistan, like Syria—you can maintain a war endlessly. "

"I went to Iraq first and then Afghanistan—really shattered those illusions that America was a humanitarian force for good. Instead, in Iraq, I saw us shatter a society that went into a civil war, in addition to attacking us. And watched how we had just completely destroyed that country through our ill-advised invasion. And then in Afghanistan, I found an unwinnable war that was probably more similar to Vietnam than the Iraq War was, in the sense that it turned out that all the Afghans were not Americans secretly waiting to jump out of their skins. They didn’t want the American version of government, and they did not see us as legitimate. "

"What I really saw was the results of American messianism in the world, of American exceptionalism, the notion that we could remake societies in our own image. What it really meant was a whole lot of dead children, a whole lot of car bombs, a whole lot of teenagers shooting each other in the night. And then of course, a whole lot of Americans getting killed as well, although less of us than the Iraqis. When I went to Afghanistan three years later, I no longer had any faith in the wars; I was just a professional. "

"what I found there was slightly different from Iraq. It wasn’t so much a civil war as it was a mass insurgency that we were never going to break. And it turns out, we only held the ground we stood on, which probably sounds very familiar to Mr. Kovic. "

Kovic: " I and other veterans who opposed that war [Vietnam] during that time, in the late sixties and early seventies, we knew that every day was important in trying to save lives. We were here back at home, we had come back from the war, but we knew how important it was that we protest that war, do everything possible to speak out until our voices were raw, against that war. And I remember, you know, sitting behind bars; I hated it, I didn’t like—I was already in a wheelchair for the rest of my life, and here I was inside of a jail cell. It wasn’t fun. But all I could think of was, whatever it takes, you know, to stop this war. I had been inspired while in the hospital by Martin Luther King and others. And I knew that that war that I had fought in and sacrificed in was wrong, and we had to do everything possible, and it was hurting my country deeply as well."

Sjursen: " When I was put in front of those cadets and asked to teach American history in the normal patriotic lens, I couldn’t do it. And I think that was the breaking point. And at that point, I decided to do what Ron Kovic decided to do, which is to speak out every day to try to minimize the number of Americans that die in these wars. And that’s where I’m at now, and I wish it would have happened sooner for me, but I can’t go back and change that. All I can do now is bring a new version of patriotism, and that is dissent against meaningless, harmful wars."

The whole article is very, very worth reading:

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-great-con-of-american-patriotism/

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« Reply #570 on: February 14, 2019, 09:54:09 AM »
From elsewhere:

More on the American-Military-Industrial-Congressional-Media-Think-Tank Complex



Phil Donahue on Democracy Now in 2013 reflecting on him being fired.
03:32
"What happened to me, the biggest lesson I think is the how corporate media shapes our opinions and our coverage. This was a decision, the decision to release me came from far above. This was not a system program director who decided to separate me from MSNBC. They were terrified of the anti-war voice and that is not an overstatement."


Jimmy Dore who annoys the crap out of some people here again speaks the truth of what happened by relaying the Historical Facts of the matter (the thing that Journalists are originally trained to do!) :
02:02
When Phil Donahue was fired they said it was for low ratings. He had the highest-rated show (on the network) and then a little while later guess what was revealed? There was a memo came out from the top brass at NBC that said: 'Phil Donahue against the war is a bad look for us, especially when we're selling war and we make a lot of money off a war' ..... because they're owned by General Electric at the time and General Electric makes you know (Military stuff) their biggest customer was the US Defense Department. Donald Rumsfeld was General Electrics biggest customer when Phil Donahue was talking against the war so they had to shut him up and they fired him.  Then it got revealed through that memo. Nobody ever talks about that!"


Now let's go bomb the crap out of Venezuela who are clearly EVIL because China, Russia and Turkey and Italy and Greece plus all the other sane rational non-psychopaths in the world say we shouldn't.

ref: https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,617.msg188933.html#msg188933
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« Reply #571 on: February 15, 2019, 06:27:44 AM »
America's Finest News Source: Everybody was doin the Abrams shuffle

"Elliott Abrams defended Wednesday the war crimes he committed in Latin America by pointing out that it was just something everyone was doing ... "

"You’d find a military force friendly to American business interests, get them to slaughter anyone who wasn’t, and then dismiss the victims as communist guerillas. "

" Hell, I knew people who would make fun of you if you hadn’t committed a war crime or two."

Plus ca change ...

https://politics.theonion.com/elliott-abrams-defends-war-crimes-as-happening-back-in-1832632902

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« Reply #572 on: February 19, 2019, 05:59:59 AM »
A long, sad history of the USA in Afghanistan by someone who was there: Hoh at antiwar echoes the War poets of yore

"If you compare Washington, DC and its suburbs to how they psychically existed prior to 9/11, you will most assuredly note the physical impact the wars and the benefiting military industrial complex has had on the city and its suburbs. The Pentagon is not confined to that five sided building alongside Interstate 395, but rather stretches for miles along the Potomac River; from the Key Bridge in Rosslyn, south through Arlington, and extending past Ronald Reagan National Airport into Alexandria, in office building after office building, are tens and tens of thousands of men and women working for war. Likewise in the suburbs, particularly west along Interstate 66 or north along the Baltimore-Washington Highway, hundreds of buildings exist to serve the war machine. It’s not just the defense industry or the contracting firms, but also the banks, hotels, restaurants, apartment complexes, high rise condominiums and near-million dollar McMansions that have risen to serve and support the Pentagon and its wars."

"Within these buildings are hundreds of thousands of men and women, the majority not wearing a uniform but working for a contracting firm or defense corporation, who often make salaries in the high five or six figures. "

"the Washington, DC metro area is the wealthiest part of the country, and has been for a number of years, beginning after these unending wars and their mass profits began."

"casualties only decreased as a result of a decrease in US presence."

"the only land they held was the land that was covered by their machine guns and mortars, the insurgency controlled the land and the population. In many places it was relayed to me that the Taliban welcomed the presence of US troops, because with the presence of the US troops came millions of dollars in US military and USAID spending, spending that went right into the pockets of the Taliban"

"only about 4% of the Afghan national army and police forces were composed of southern Pashtuns – the people from whom the Taliban received the base of their support "

" a Taliban that is composed of locally organized and recruited insurgent forces who are fighting against foreign occupation and a corrupt, predatory and non-representative government."

" the people we are fighting are fighting us because we are occupying their countries and supporting violent, repressive and corrupt governments."

"The idea of military success and hard won gains has been nothing but craven and homicidal war propaganda trumpeted by US generals and the world’s largest public relations operation, and bleated obediently by politicians and, shamefully, journalists"

" Every Afghan election has been thoroughly fraudulent and riddled with vote rigging and ballot theft on a mass scale. "

"When I was in Afghanistan the biggest drug baron in southern Afghanistan was President Karzai’s brother Ahmed Wali Karzai "

"the claim that we are supporting the guys in the white hats in Afghanistan even more criminally ludicrous, the Afghan security forces, be it the army, the police, or the intelligence services consistently torture prisoners as a matter of routine practice in addition to being themselves involved in the drug trade."

" the widespread keeping of child sex slaves by Afghan military and police officers. Some US military personnel, so disgusted by the overt keeping of child sex slaves, took matters into their own hands, only to be relieved of command and forced out of the military."

"US protestations for a willingness and a desire for peace may well have been the grandest and bloodiest lie of them all."

" none of this was necessary. It has all has been a waste."

Read the whole thing:

https://original.antiwar.com/matthew_hoh/2019/02/17/time-for-peace-in-afghanistan-and-an-end-to-the-lies/

Get the fuck out. Now.

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« Reply #573 on: February 22, 2019, 08:13:20 AM »
Savell at tomdispatch has some estimates: worth reading, though her colleague, Nick Turse, might call them underestimates. Note that these are overt interventions, not counting the covert cutthroats.

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/176529/tomgram%3A_stephanie_savell%2C_u.s._counterterror_missions_across_the_planet/

She has a map:

https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/files/cow/imce/papers/2019/US%20Counterterror%20War%20Locations%2C%202017-18%2C%20Smithsonian_Costs%20of%20War%20upright.pdf

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« Reply #574 on: February 23, 2019, 10:28:46 AM »
EBAY Pierre Omidyar’s Funding of Pro-Regime-Change Networks and Partnerships with CIA Cutouts
February 20th, 2019

"To [Omidyar] it’s … about … integrating things together to give technocrats, business executives and government officials a God’s-eye view of the world — to manage and control society more efficiently.” — Yasha Levine, author of “Surveillance Valley: The Military History of the Internet”
by Alexander Rubinstein and Max Blumenthal

https://www.mintpressnews.com/pierre-omidyar-funding-of-pro-regime-change-networks-and-partnerships-with-cia-cutouts/255337/ 




Ambassador Samantha Power: "And through his example, George has given definition to what it means to be a modern philanthropist, to be a doer, paving the way for Bill and Melinda Gates, Warren Buffet, Pam and Pierre Omidyar, and others. George was first."
http://web.archive.org/web/20160314205902/http://usun.state.gov/remarks/5869


How One of America’s Premier Data Monarchs is Funding a Global Information War and Shaping the Media Landscape
February 18th, 2019

Through his purchase of influence over the daily flow of information to American media consumers, a dizzying array of connections to the national security state, and a media empire that shields him from critical scrutiny, Pierre Omidyar has become one of the world’s most politically sophisticated data monarchs.
by Alexander Rubinstein and Max Blumenthal

https://www.mintpressnews.com/ebay-founder-pierre-omidyar-is-funding-a-global-media-information-war/255199/
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« Reply #575 on: February 25, 2019, 08:06:18 AM »
It was a common trope that in what used to be called the "Third World" police forces would harass the families of the accused until the accused relented to state power.

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article226690544.html

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« Reply #576 on: February 27, 2019, 01:18:53 AM »
Johnstone on US interventions: Each one is like Godzilla

"Nothing a bit of Godzilla couldn’t fix."

https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/02/25/if-every-debate-about-us-interventionism-was-about-godzilla-instead/

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« Reply #577 on: March 01, 2019, 11:19:11 PM »
Hullo there: USA-SKorea joint annual spring saber rattling cancelled

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/u-s-end-large-scale-military-drills-south-korea-n978111

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« Reply #578 on: March 12, 2019, 08:42:38 PM »
Carpenter at the american conservative: Central African Republic on deck for regime change:

"A lobbying effort now seems to be taking place for U.S. intervention to alleviate suffering in the Central African Republic ..."

"The media treatment would be familiar to anyone who recalls the preludes to U.S. military interventions in such places as Somalia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Libya, and Syria. There is extensive video of starving, disease-afflicted children and their anguished parents. International aid workers emphasize that the suffering was certain to get worse unless the “international community” (led, of course, by the United States) took immediate action. A U.S. diplomat on the scene or in Washington proceeds to echo that argument. The armed conflict causing the suffering is mentioned, but the treatment is brief and superficial, or it becomes a simplistic melodrama in which a designated villain is causing all the trouble ..."

“the United States is particularly concerned about the potential of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, or ISIS, capitalizing on the instability to establish a presence in the region.”

"If the ISIS menace was not enough to alarm viewers, NBC cited two other bogeymen: the Russians and the Chinese."

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-dogs-of-war-sniff-out-mission-in-central-africa/

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« Reply #579 on: March 20, 2019, 05:14:28 AM »
Astore at tomdispatch on unending war: No Exit

(Yes, that is a reference to Sartre's play, that's one of the things i thought of when reading this. In my twisted reading, those three generals quoted might be in that play. But if this is their hell, then we are in it also. )

"Washington’s invasions, occupations, and interventions in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and elsewhere in this century have never produced anything faintly like a single decisive and lasting victory."

"There is only war and more war in their (and so our) future."

Read the whole thing:

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/176540/tomgram%3A_william_astore%2C_the_death_of_peace/

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« Reply #580 on: March 21, 2019, 10:51:24 PM »
Solomon at the hill on Obama era State Department strongarm of Ukraine:  hands off those thugs, they be our thugs

Ukraine Prosecutor General:

“Unfortunately, from the first meeting with the U.S. ambassador in Kiev, [Yovanovitch] gave me a list of people whom we should not prosecute,”

Shorter: These our thugs

US State Department:

"The United States is not currently providing any assistance to the Prosecutor General’s Office (PGO), but did previously attempt to support fundamental justice sector reform, including in the PGO, in the aftermath of the 2014 Revolution of Dignity. When the political will for genuine reform by successive Prosecutors General proved lacking, we exercised our fiduciary responsibility to the American taxpayer and redirected assistance to more productive projects."

Shorter version: We bribed em, but they didnt stay bribed

Ukraine Prosecutor General:

“The portion of the funds namely 4.4 million U.S. dollars were designated and were foreseen for the recipient Prosecutor General's office. But we have never received it,”

Shorter: Give us the money anyway

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/434875-top-ukrainian-justice-official-says-us-ambassador-gave-him-a-do-not-prosecute

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/434875-top-ukrainian-justice-official-says-us-ambassador-gave-him-a-do-not-prosecute

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« Reply #581 on: April 03, 2019, 07:20:17 AM »
Biden shooting his mouth off about fired ukrainian prosecutor: who was investigating family deals

" Biden described how he threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin."

“Well, son of a bitch, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time,”

"The prosecutor he got fired was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into the natural gas firm Burisma Holdings that employed Biden’s younger son, Hunter, as a board member."

O dear.

"President Obama named Biden the administration’s point man on Ukraine in February 2014, after a popular revolution ousted Russia-friendly President Viktor Yanukovych"

"Vice President Biden met with Archer in April 2014 right as Archer was named to the board at Burisma. A month later, Hunter Biden was named to the board'

"Between April 2014 and October 2015, more than $3 million was paid out of Burisma accounts to an account linked to Biden’s and Archer’s Rosemont Seneca firm"

"on most months when Burisma money flowed, two wire transfers of $83,333.33 each were sent to the Rosemont Seneca–connected account on the same day. The same Rosemont Seneca–linked account typically then would pay Hunter Biden one or more payments ranging from $5,000 to $25,000 each"

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/436816-joe-bidens-2020-ukrainian-nightmare-a-closed-probe-is-revived

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« Reply #582 on: April 03, 2019, 07:26:53 AM »
Latin America resists Monroe: i wish em good luck, gonna need it

"Latin American states are mounting a challenge to the acceptance of a legal standard promoted by the US, UK and their allies to justify military operations in the Middle East, fearing the same standard could eventually be used to justify intervention in their own hemisphere."

"one of the most important questions in international law – when is it permissible to wage war on another country’s territory – is being settled by stealth, by a small group of military powers, with no global debate."

"States involved in the counter-Isis campaign and other foreign military operations have submitted letters of justification for their actions to the UN, citing self-defence against the threat of terrorism and arguing in many cases that the governments of the countries involved have been “unwilling or unable” to deal with the threat. "

"The evolution of the “unwilling or unable” standard reaches back to George W Bush’s “global war on terror” "

"President François Hollande cited Article 51 as justification for French military intervention in Mali in 2013. Over the past five years, most of the 13 countries have invoked the right of self-defence under the UN charter to launch attacks on groups deemed to be terrorist threats, most of them in Syria, without the consent of the Damascus government."

“But there is mounting concern in general that as the security council and the UN system grinds to a halt, it gives the US and others the leeway to just consistently flag Article 51 and bomb away.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/02/latin-americans-fear-precedent-set-by-legal-justification-for-syria-intervention

https://www.justsecurity.org/63415/an-insiders-view-of-the-life-cycle-of-self-defense-reports-by-u-n-member-states/

Sounds like "unable or unwilling" is the new "responsibility to protect" from the clinton era

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« Reply #583 on: April 05, 2019, 07:20:32 AM »
Peries interviews Engler at the real news network: NATO was designed to blunt the left in europe

" it was never designed primarily about countering the Soviet Union. From the beginning, even when it may be correct to say it was about countering communism, but that was communism internally."

"That was the objective of NATO, to stop a conquest within (i.e. a socialist or communist taking power internally)."

"The end of the Soviet Union didn’t end Washington’s desire to dominate the world. And so NATO as a tool for that domination has really continued on until today and in fact, become more belligerent since the end of the Cold War."

"what I have witnessed in the Aegean Sea is the NATO ships coasting the Aegean Sea, looking for immigrants that might come over to Europe"

"The effect of the NATO mission was to increase instability, was to increase Libya as a hub of migration in illegal human trafficking. It was also to destabilize not just Libya, but also much of the Sahel region of Africa. "

"now includes countries like Colombia and possibly Brazil. Colombia has a special status now with NATO and Brazil is also positioning itself to be some sort of affiliate. So they’re really expanding their wings as an alliance into Latin America. "

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https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-forgotten-anti-democratic-history-of-nato/

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« Reply #584 on: April 10, 2019, 09:41:33 PM »
Boots on the ground: US soldiers in Ukraine

"strictly for training and advising purposes "

https://defence-blog.com/army/u-s-soldiers-from-101st-airborne-division-will-deploy-to-ukraine-for-nine-months.html

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« Reply #585 on: April 10, 2019, 09:48:35 PM »
CIA use of polio vaccination campaign to find bin Laden is a gift that keeps on giving: another vaccination worker gunned down

"His killing was the latest of many attacks on vaccinators in Pakistan"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/04/09/polio-worker-gunned-pakistan-trying-persuade-families-vaccinate/

background:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/mar/02/aid-groups-cia-osama-bin-laden-polio-crisis



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« Reply #586 on: April 12, 2019, 10:34:40 PM »
More blowback from the CIA vaccination effort: Afghan Taliban ban Red Cross, WHO vaccination drive

"citing unspecified “suspicious” actions during vaccination campaigns"

"Afghanistan, one of the last countries in the world where polio is still endemic"

"they are acting suspiciously during vaccination campaigns"

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-afghanistan-taliban-aid/afghan-taliban-bans-who-and-red-cross-work-amid-vaccination-drive-idUKKCN1RN27Y

That CIA move has effectively sabotaged health efforts in Pakistan and Afghanistan for at least a generation, perhaps longer. Thanks, Obama.

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« Reply #588 on: April 18, 2019, 12:11:25 AM »
Sjursen at antiwar: Afganistan is already lost

" When America folds and negotiates a weak deal, or once the Taliban again marches on Kabul, all the casualties suffered in the intervening years will have been a tragic waste."

"There’s little left for the US military to do in Afghanistan besides to kill, die, and, ultimately, lose the whole war."

"who really cares about dead brown folks anyway? They’re not people "

"We’re through the looking glass, Alice. Our country no longer fights for any tangible, measurable goal. Wars aren’t linked to discernible threats."

"We don’t fight in Afghanistan because we must, but because we can; the Taliban doesn’t fight in Afghanistan [because] they hate us, but because we are there. It is the perfect formula for forever war."

"we are all complicit in a great crime against the troops we so celebrate"

Read and weep:

https://original.antiwar.com/Danny_Sjursen/2019/04/16/who-will-be-the-last-to-die-for-a-lie-the-afghan-war-drags-on/

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« Reply #589 on: April 18, 2019, 12:14:59 AM »
Cuba on deck: needs some sweet, sweet liberation

"lawsuits against foreign firms operating on properties Cuba seized from Americans after the 1959 revolution."

" gives Americans the right to sue companies that operate out of hotels, tobacco factories, distilleries and other properties Cuba nationalized after Fidel Castro took power. It allows lawsuits by Cubans who became U.S. citizens years after their properties were taken."

"claims have an estimated value of $8 billion: $2 billion in property and $6 billion in interest, she said. In addition, there are about 200,000 uncertified claims that could run into the tens of billions of dollars"

"Madrid would ask the European Union to challenge the U.S. move in the World Trade Organization."

"Businesses from Canada, France and Great Britain among other countries also conduct business in properties nationalized after Castro took power."

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/u-s-to-allow-lawsuits-over-properties-seized-by-castros-cuba/

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« Reply #590 on: April 18, 2019, 03:44:52 AM »
The US really needs to take over Venezuela already.

At this point, the country might actually benefit from an invasion. If the US learns from Iraq, plans for significant resistance, and uses overwhelming force and lots of aid (sticks and carrots) I think it could be great.

God wants the the US to add Venezuela to the empire. This is easily discernible by the perfect complimentary nature of our most valuable resources (oil). The US has tons of light crude. Venezuela has tons of heavy crude.

Our crudes need each other. The yearn to be combined and refined.

Plus, if the US isn't invading other countries, the enormity of the US military is a total waste of resources. How will we explain to our grandchildren how we spend so much money on the armed forces while taking over so few countries.
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« Reply #591 on: April 24, 2019, 11:03:15 PM »
Monsters, war crimes and cover ups: “Stop talking about it.”

Read if you have the stomach:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/23/us/navy-seals-crimes-of-war.html

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« Reply #592 on: April 25, 2019, 06:02:49 AM »
US and puppets kill more than terrorists in Afghanistan:

" U.S.-backed forces killed more Afghan civilians than the Taliban and other armed anti-government groups did in the first three months of this year."

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/04/24/unprecedented-un-finds-us-backed-forces-killed-more-afghan-civilians-taliban-and

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« Reply #593 on: May 02, 2019, 12:15:30 AM »
U.S. Military Stops Tracking Key Metric On Afghan War As Situation Deteriorates
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-afghanistan-military/us-military-stops-tracking-key-metric-on-afghan-war-as-situation-deteriorates-idUSKCN1S734C

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. military has stopped tracking the amount of territory controlled or influenced by the Afghan government and militants, a U.S. watchdog said on Tuesday, one of the last remaining public metrics that tracked the worsening security situation in the war-torn country.

Colonel David Butler, spokesman for U.S. Forces in Afghanistan, said that while Resolute Support was no longer doing the analyses, the intelligence community did its own classified assessment of districts controlled by the government and Taliban. He did not speculate on whether the intelligence community analyses would continue or not.

This much is clear: There’s even less information for American taxpayers to gauge whether their investment in Afghanistan is a success, or something else,” John Sopko, the head of SIGAR, told Reuters.

A January report put districts under government control or influence at 53.8 per cent covering 63.5 percent of the population by October 2018, with the rest of the country controlled or contested by the Taliban.
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« Reply #594 on: May 17, 2019, 02:07:50 AM »
After delivering Assange, Eucador allows USAID back in. One way to keep track of the CIA spies i suppose.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ecuador-agrees-return-usaid-relations-warm-194104788.html

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Big brudder, widdle brudder ...

Facebook busts Israeli influence campaign that targeted elections on 3 continents
Published time: 17 May, 2019

The social media platform has shut down 65 Facebook accounts, 161 pages, 23 groups, 12 events, and four Instagram accounts run out of Israel, citing its policy on “coordinated inauthentic behavior.” Some pages boasted as many as 2.8 million followers, while thousands of users had joined the groups and expressed interest in scheduled events – though Facebook isn’t sure whether those ever actually happened.

The fake accounts masqueraded as locals and local news outlets, pumping out glowing stories and smear jobs on candidates in local elections, including allegedly leaked information. The campaign primarily targeted Nigeria, Tunisia, Angola, Senegal, Togo, and Niger, though “some activity” focused on Southeast Asia and Latin America, according to a Facebook post by Nathaniel Gleicher, the company’s head of cybersecurity policy, on Thursday.

The Israelis had invested considerable time and money into the deception, dropping about $812,000 on ads over the past seven years in dollars, shekels, and Brazilian reals. This is compared to roughly $100,000 mainstream media claims was spent on ‘Russian bots’ to allegedly sway the 2016 US presidential election.

Facebook has been much less forthcoming about this particular campaign than some previous mass takedowns, perhaps because the culprits aren’t linked to Russia or Iran, while Facebook regularly cooperates with the Israeli government to have politically inconvenient accounts deleted.

https://www.rt.com/news/459542-facebook-israeli-influence-campaign-elections/

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 2 US destroyers enter Persian Gulf amid tensions with Iran
Published time: 17 May, 2019

Tehran, which called US saber-rattling “psychological warfare,” says the Islamic Republic stands ready to defend itself against any act of aggression but does not consider a war with the US and its allies as “an option.”

“We are not interested in the escalation of tensions in our region, because if something goes wrong, everybody will lose, including Iran, including the US, including all the countries in the region,” Iranian Ambassador to the United Nations Majid Takht-e Ravanchi told American outlet National Public Radio.

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 BDS = anti-Semitism? Germany passes motion against Palestinian protest movement
Published time: 17 May, 2019

Germany’s parliament has passed a motion defining the Boycott Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement as anti-Semitic. It calls on Berlin to cut funding to groups supporting BDS.

The Bundestag voted to adopt the non-binding motion backed by Chancellor Angela Merkel's CDU party on Friday, making it the first European parliament to do so.

The FDP motion supported by the CDU, CSU, SPD and Greens says the “arguments and methods of the BDS movement are anti-Semitic,” as it calls for the boycott of Israeli artists and because the BDS ‘don’t buy’ labels put on Israeli goods “recall the most terrible phase of German history,” referring to the Nazi slogan ‘Don’t buy from Jews’.

BDS is an international effort to use non-violence to pressure the state of Israel to end its occupation of Palestinian territories and give full equality to its Arab-Palestinian citizens. It also calls for the right of return for Palestinian refugees by encouraging a cultural, economic and political boycott. The movement is inspired by the international boycott of apartheid South Africa and was started by Palestinian groups in 2005.

The motion urges the German government not to fund or support groups “that question Israel's right to exist,” although that is not what the BDS movement sets out to do.

https://www.rt.com/news/459605-germany-bds-anti-semitism-motion/
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 Why is the US always 'stumbling' or 'sliding' into war? How the media misleads with language
Published time: 15 May, 2019

But there is another more subtle and unnoticeable way that the media deceives us. Even when they are not outright cheerleading for military action (as was the case in the lead up to the Iraq War), the language they use to describe events is designed to absolve Washington of blame.

Next time you read the news, notice how the US is always “stumbling into” war, or “drifting into” war or “sliding into” war — or even “sleepwalking into” war. To “stumble into” war seems to be a firm favorite among headline writers. The US has “stumbled” into war in Iraq and Syria and has been, at one time or another, at risk of “stumbling” into war with Russia, North Korea and most recently Iran.

With this narrative of the bumbling superpower, agency is always removed from the architects of war. Instead of enthusiastically banging the drums for war, we’re told the White House is always ‘reluctant’ to deploy its military, but is ‘forced’ into it . Then, once the war is in full-swing, when things are not panning out exactly as planned, the US can become the sacrificial hero, propelled into a deadly conflict not of its own making.
https://www.rt.com/usa/459429-us-media-language-war-propaganda/


"Abiding in the midst of ignorance, thinking themselves wise and learned, fools go aimlessly hither and thither, like blind led by the blind."    — The Katha Upanishad 1st millennium BCE.