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Re: US intervention in foreign lands
« Reply #600 on: June 28, 2019, 09:37:34 AM »
Whoa! Pompeo agrees to US pullout of Afghanistan ?

"Pompeo confirmed that the US is prepared to remove its troops from Afghanistan"

https://news.antiwar.com/2019/06/25/pompeo-us-prepared-to-remove-troops-from-afghanistan/

Of course, he's a lying sack of shit ...

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« Reply #601 on: July 05, 2019, 05:42:30 PM »
Another step in escalation towards war against Iran:

Iranian official threatens to seize British oil tanker
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48882455

The Tl;DR:  A supertanker taking Iranian crude to Syria was seized by the UK government in Gibraltar, seemingly on orders from the White House.
The UK's justification was that the destination was a Syrian refinery under EU sanctions (and not, putatively, the US-only sanctions against Iran).  A distinction without a difference.

Hardliners on all sides are being empowered and emboldened by hardliners on the other side.

Iran inevitably will retaliate in some way.  Then the US will surely counter-retaliate.  A positive feedback loop seems to be in play.  The world marches toward a Middle East conflagration.

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« Reply #602 on: November 18, 2019, 02:49:15 PM »
Scott Ritter is arguably the most experienced American weapons inspector and in this interview with Dennis J. Bernstein he levels a frank assessment of U.S. government assertions about chemical weapons use in Douma, Syria.

https://consortiumnews.com/2018/04/27/weapons-inspector-refutes-u-s-syria-chemical-claims/

A second whistleblower has come out, claiming that the OPCW has suppressed evidence regarding the alleged gas attack in Douma. I don't think this is reported in mainstream news, so I thought I'd put it out here for those who follow only mainstream news:



I hope one day we'll hear what really happened, and can then compare to everything that has been alleged.
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« Reply #603 on: November 19, 2019, 12:36:12 AM »
Here's an even better interview by Maté with Jonathan Steele, the journalist who first interviewed the second whistleblower:



Steele: "These are professional scientists, they've worked for many years at the OPCW, they wouldn't have been sent to Syria to pick up evidence if they'd had strong political views of one kind or another. They just feel annoyed that their professional scientific conclusions have been rejected in favour of politically biased answers which favour the foreign policy agenda of certain powerful Western states. They feel that science is being corrupted."
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« Reply #604 on: November 19, 2019, 05:20:53 AM »
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Don't fall for it! These sycophantic so called "scientists" hold that Higgins' obviously objective observations are uncontestably untenable, that they're little more than the mad scribblings of an unemployed purveyor of ladies undergarments, observations he personally observed from his imaginary observatory secreted away in the bowels of his mother's modest abode.


Eliot's persistent predilection for playing online may have taken a toll on his musculature, his education and his employability, but all this time for solitary rumination allowed his unfettered fantasies to run rampant. He became capable of conceiving conspiracies deemed inconceivable by those more experienced, better educated, and hampered by their unfaltering grasp of reality.


Without the firsthand testimony of those that swore that there had been no chemical attack, that testified under oath how children had been snatched off the streets by strangers in White Hard Hats, then filmed as they were forcefully scrubbed and hosed off, these "scientists" would have nothing to offer but the results of their own tests, their own analysis of the site, and their years of experience to rely on.


Is the testimony of expert professionals who were "on site" judged as being more reliable than the word of an unemployed underwear salesman blogging from his doting mother's basement? Are verifiable facts now seen as more reliable than the words of the illustrious Atlantic Council?


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« Reply #605 on: November 19, 2019, 07:00:11 AM »
Marx at antiwar: no end in sight

"Our Southeast Asian misadventure was also very much like its evil twin, the disastrous war in Afghanistan – an illegal intervention to prop up a corrupt government, fueled on hubris, with no discernible end state. Still, US forces avoided calling the war in Vietnam unwinnable 50 years ago, as in Afghanistan today."

" Jean-Louis Bourgeois noted, "For Americans to withdraw from Afghanistan is not a reason for shame. This is not about America; in fact, this is where American exceptionalism gets us into trouble. The shame is to deny the reality of the situation."  "

https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2019/11/15/vietnam-vs-afghanistan-matched-mayhem-ceaseless-war/

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« Reply #606 on: December 07, 2019, 06:41:32 PM »
Six Saudis Said Questioned After Pensacola Navy Base Shooting
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/06/us/pensacola-florida-navy-shooting.html

A member of the Saudi Air Force armed with a handgun fatally shot three people and injured eight others on Friday morning during a bloody rampage in a classroom building at the Naval Air Station in Pensacola, Fla., where he was training to become a pilot.

... Six other Saudi nationals were detained for questioning near the scene of the shooting, including three who were seen filming the entire incident, according to a person briefed on the initial stages of the investigation. A group that monitors online jihadist activity said that shortly before the shooting, a Twitter account with a name matching the gunman’s posted  a “will” calling the United States a “nation of evil” and criticizing its support for Israel.

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Pentagon Moves Forward with Saudi Defense Mission
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/pentagon-moves-forward-with-saudi-defense-mission/2019/11/27/e1a36444-112a-11ea-b0fc-62cc38411ebb_story.html

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia — The United States is negotiating cost-sharing terms with Saudi Arabia for an expanding military mission aimed at ensuring the kingdom is protected from attacks on critical oil infrastructure, officials said.

Trump authorized a boost to the relatively light U.S. footprint in Saudi Arabia, from an advisory mission that stood around 800 to a force of about 3,000, following the Sept. 14 assault on Saudi oil facilities

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Trump Mulls Sending Additional 14,000 Troops to Middle East
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-administration-considers-14-000-more-troops-for-mideast-11575494228

WASHINGTON—The Trump administration is considering a significant expansion of the U.S. military footprint in the Middle East to counter Iran, including dozens more ships, other military hardware and as many as 14,000 additional troops, U.S. officials said.

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Pentagon Officials Struggle to Explain Plans for Middle East Deployments
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/05/american-troops-middle-east-iran-076369

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« Reply #607 on: December 09, 2019, 06:43:42 PM »
Documents Reveal Misleading Public Statements on War in Afghanistan
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/investigations/afghanistan-papers/afghanistan-war-confidential-documents/
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/09/world/asia/afghanistan-war-documents.html

A confidential trove of government documents obtained by The Washington Post reveals that senior U.S. officials failed to tell the truth about the war in Afghanistan throughout the 18-year campaign, making rosy pronouncements they knew to be false and hiding unmistakable evidence the war had become unwinnable. ...

Thousands of pages of documents detailing the war in Afghanistan released by The Washington Post on Monday paint a stark picture of missteps and failures — and delivered in the words of prominent American officials, many of whom publicly had said the mission was succeeding.
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« Reply #608 on: December 10, 2019, 12:42:08 AM »
from the wapo article:

"we didn't know what we were doing"

"With most speaking on the assumption that their remarks would not become public, U.S. officials acknowledged that their warfighting strategies were fatally flawed and that Washington wasted enormous sums of money trying to remake Afghanistan into a modern nation. "

“After the killing of Osama bin Laden, I said that Osama was probably laughing in his watery grave considering how much we have spent on Afghanistan.”

"we became a self-licking ice cream cone."

" “We don’t invade poor countries to make them rich,” James Dobbins, a former senior U.S. diplomat who served as a special envoy to Afghanistan under Bush and Obama, told government interviewers. “We don’t invade authoritarian countries to make them democratic. We invade violent countries to make them peaceful and we clearly failed in Afghanistan." "

“Our policy was to create a strong central government which was idiotic because Afghanistan does not have a history of a strong central government,”

“The timeframe for creating a strong central government is 100 years, which we didn’t have."

" We were given money, told to spend it and we did, without reason."

"expected to dole out $3 million daily for projects in a single Afghan district roughly the size of a U.S. county. "

"The gusher of aid that Washington spent on Afghanistan also gave rise to historic levels of corruption. "

"By allowing corruption to fester, U.S. officials told interviewers, they helped destroy the popular legitimacy of the wobbly Afghan government they were fighting to prop up. With judges and police chiefs and bureaucrats extorting bribes, many Afghans soured on democracy and turned to the Taliban to enforce order. "

"U.S. military trainers described the Afghan security forces as incompetent, unmotivated and rife with deserters ... None expressed confidence that the Afghan army and police could ever fend off, much less defeat, the Taliban on their own. "

"At first, Afghan poppy farmers were paid by the British to destroy their crops — which only encouraged them to grow more the next season. Later, the U.S. government eradicated poppy fields without compensation — which only infuriated farmers and encouraged them to side with the Taliban. "

"it may take a year or two. But we will prevail."

“We’re making some steady progress,”

“First, we are steadily making deliberate progress,”

“The past eight months have seen important but hard-fought progress,”

“The campaign, as I’ve pointed out before, I think has made significant progress,”

“We are seeing some progress,”

"constant pressure from the Obama White House and Pentagon to produce figures to show the troop surge of 2009 to 2011 was working, despite hard evidence to the contrary. "

"Suicide bombings in Kabul were portrayed as a sign of the Taliban’s desperation, that the insurgents were too weak to engage in direct combat. Meanwhile, a rise in U.S. troop deaths was cited as proof that American forces were taking the fight to the enemy. "

" “For example, attacks are getting worse? ‘That’s because there are more targets for them to fire at, so more attacks are a false indicator of instability.’ Then, three months later, attacks are still getting worse? ‘It’s because the Taliban are getting desperate, so it’s actually an indicator that we’re winning.’ ”  "

" they claimed they were making progress. "

"So if we are doing such a great job, why does it feel like we are losing?"

Last year, 3,804 Afghan civilians were killed in the war ...  the most in one year since the United Nations began tracking casualties a decade ago."

Read the whole thing. My fucking tax dollars at work.

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