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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #650 on: January 27, 2023, 08:59:02 PM »
Another perfect day around Thwaites
The new crack is approx 40 kilometers long
Another crack further north also freed a new iceberg
B22 still moving out at sea.
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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #651 on: January 27, 2023, 09:08:56 PM »
The SW end of B-22 has moved by another 8.5 km in the last five days. The speed keeps up to almost 2 km/day. The gap between B-22's SW end and B-29 has grown to 25 km. ...
Just a short update on B-22's journey into open waters to the north.
Since Jan 20 the SW end has moved 11.5 km which averages to 1.6 km/day. The gap between the SW end and B-29 has widened to almost 29 km. Now, as B-22's SW end is further away from B-29 than the SE end of the outer ice field, a further opening will not widen the gap anymore.
Still a lot of ice mélange is held back by old grounded icebergs, but numerous icebergs and sea ice have managed to flow through this barrier.
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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #652 on: January 28, 2023, 12:58:53 PM »
The polarview image of the new crack (zoomed in) . 28.01.2023
New cracks appearing also (arrow)

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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #653 on: January 28, 2023, 03:36:27 PM »
Chris, today the new big slice is breaking from the lower half of the fast ice curve across the Pine Island Bay, stops just above the large embedded iceberg (which is splitting?), which is just below where the new iceberg (single arrow) was on your 27.01.2023 image.
There are more icebergs breaking from the centre of the bay above the Bear Peninsular and appear to be new cracks forming in the lower part of that ice too. All falling apart behind the previously calved iceberg rafts (B45, etc.)??
« Last Edit: January 28, 2023, 08:59:59 PM by FredBear »

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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #654 on: January 28, 2023, 06:57:18 PM »
I saw that
I posted the Worldview daily image on the other thread
Here is the new Polarview (zoomed in) 28.01.2023
B22 moving out to sea rapidly, it seems
Lots of open water between B22 and the sea ice on the coast
What will happen next 3 weeks?

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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #655 on: January 28, 2023, 08:11:15 PM »
This is a superposition of B-22 in its actual position (Jan 27, 2023) and its position one year ago (Jan 22, 2022). Its contours have been drawn by the "measure area" tool in EOSDIS worldview.
It has now completely left its old position.

See attached picture, N is left, a little down. Size is ca. 180*90 km
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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #656 on: January 30, 2023, 07:54:17 PM »
The SW end of B-22 has moved by another 8.5 km in the last five days. The speed keeps up to almost 2 km/day. The gap between B-22's SW end and B-29 has grown to 25 km. ...
Just a short update on B-22's journey into open waters to the north.
Since Jan 20 the SW end has moved 11.5 km which averages to 1.6 km/day. The gap between the SW end and B-29 has widened to almost 29 km. Now, as B-22's SW end is further away from B-29 than the SE end of the outer ice field, a further opening will not widen the gap anymore.
Still a lot of ice mélange is held back by old grounded icebergs, but numerous icebergs and sea ice have managed to flow through this barrier.
Another update on B-22's journey into open waters.
Since Jan 20 the SW end has moved 22 km which averages to 2.2 km/day. The eastern part was even faster (31 km; there is still a slight counterclockwise pattern of its motion visible). The gap between the SW end of B-22 and B-29 is now almost 37 km wide.
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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #657 on: January 31, 2023, 08:44:04 AM »
We can see some clear shoals right underneath B-22's previous position. The icebergs marked with red in this screenshot is grounded, already trapped by the same shoals. Explains why B-22 stayed so still for so long, and why it was finally free to move once it drifted far enough north/west to clear those shoals.

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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #658 on: February 01, 2023, 02:51:53 PM »
New polarview image of B22
 01.02.2023
Moving fast now (wind?)

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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #659 on: February 01, 2023, 04:11:35 PM »
Interesting how fast B-22 is moving.  Just one point, isn't that the Outer Ice Field, not B-29?

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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #660 on: February 01, 2023, 04:30:05 PM »
Yes, absolutely, he considers "sea ice/fast ice" as an iceberg

See Stefan's post which contains the correct analysis:
https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,2245.msg357140.html#msg357140

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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #661 on: February 02, 2023, 11:55:05 AM »
A Worldview animation of B-22A's hasty escape, every 2 days since Jan 12th, with Dec 25th added in the beginning.
Click to animate.

BTW it would seem B-29 (if that's the correct name) is not really grounded, but moving slightly back and forth.

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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #662 on: February 02, 2023, 12:20:46 PM »
Excuse me if this is a silly question, but I really don't understand why the outer ice field west of (in oren's animation below) B-22 isn't moving at all.

It looks like it is grounded but I always thought that sea ice doesn't reach far under water. Also the huge iceberg B-22 - which in my understanding reaches to far deeper depths - is moving freely while being directly adjacent to it.

Can someone explain to me what exactly is holding the icefield in its place? I feel like I have fundamentally wrong assumptions about the dynamics at play here.

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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #663 on: February 02, 2023, 12:38:25 PM »
Clearly fast ice is not grounded, but it includes icebergs which are grounded

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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #664 on: February 02, 2023, 01:28:15 PM »
Can someone explain to me what exactly is holding the icefield in its place? I feel like I have fundamentally wrong assumptions about the dynamics at play here.

This region has a very complex subsurface topography. The underwater ridge which causes icebergs to get stuck also causes extreme up-welling. The region behind the ridge never fully freezes in winter.

In front of the ridge there is a region where currents get very weak and if ice freezes to an iceberg it's hard to break away. I attached a profile plot along the ridge high point (-250m) and another plot further north which has a gentler slope.

B22A is now moving along, in front of the ridge and slightly away.
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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #665 on: February 02, 2023, 04:10:08 PM »
Looking at radar images can help distinguish between icebergs and sea ice.

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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #666 on: February 02, 2023, 05:38:04 PM »
BTW it would seem B-29 (if that's the correct name) is not really grounded, but moving slightly back and forth.
B29 wriggling on the hook? Movement will erode the base and release it (one day)?
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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #667 on: February 02, 2023, 08:18:11 PM »
Baking is right, use the radar images (especially the high resolution S1 images) to distinguish between sea ice, fast ice and icebergs, also taking advantage of the fact that in this area, also in this season, the firm is not waterlogged and therefore the images are still easily usable.
You will find below a zoom of B22a with explanations

Concerning grounded icebergs, you will find, in this thread, several animations (see for example post 626) allowing you to detect them (especially by enlarging the images). In some cases these icebergs can be moved by the arrival of a large iceberg which pushes them a little further (like when B22a moved west, before retreating and freeing itself), but, once the push is over, they don't move anymore. In some cases they are only grounded for a few meters and they can move during high tides (one has to take into account that there are no peaks and that the slopes are very gentle (see the bathymetry in the animation of post 956, first and last image, the scale is at the bottom right)

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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #668 on: February 03, 2023, 09:27:14 AM »
New polarview image of B22
 03.02.2023
On the move, heading for the exit

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« Reply #669 on: February 03, 2023, 10:16:07 PM »
The SW end of B-22 has moved by another 8.5 km in the last five days. The speed keeps up to almost 2 km/day. The gap between B-22's SW end and B-29 has grown to 25 km. ...
Just a short update on B-22's journey into open waters to the north.
Since Jan 20 the SW end has moved 11.5 km which averages to 1.6 km/day. The gap between the SW end and B-29 has widened to almost 29 km. Now, as B-22's SW end is further away from B-29 than the SE end of the outer ice field, a further opening will not widen the gap anymore.
Still a lot of ice mélange is held back by old grounded icebergs, but numerous icebergs and sea ice have managed to flow through this barrier.
Another update on B-22's journey into open waters.
Since Jan 20 the SW end has moved 22 km which averages to 2.2 km/day. The eastern part was even faster (31 km; there is still a slight counterclockwise pattern of its motion visible). The gap between the SW end of B-22 and B-29 is now almost 37 km wide.
Update on B-22's journey into open waters.
Since Jan 20 the iceberg has moved 31-36 km northward (depending on the side you measure, there is still a certain anticlockwise momentum present). This averages to 2.2-2.5 km/day.
The gap between B-22's SW end and B-29 is now ca. 44 km wide (a little uncertainty due to partly cloud coverage). Some of the ice mélange S of B-22 made it through the barrier of grounded icebergs, some others are queuing there. The majority of it seem to follow B-22 northward. Once B-22 has passed the Outer Ice Field completely the ice mélange will reach open (and warmer) waters so it will melt completely within the next weeks.
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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #670 on: February 05, 2023, 11:09:50 AM »
Polarview 05.02.2023
B22 zoomed in 
(less damage along the coast)

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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #671 on: February 06, 2023, 04:49:40 PM »
Not news, but nonetheless stunning satellite video of A76 detaching from the Ronne Ice Shelf: https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Images/2021/05/A-76_The_world_s_largest_iceberg#YKZSqfD1MlV.link
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« Reply #672 on: February 06, 2023, 09:27:40 PM »
The SW end of B-22 has moved by another 8.5 km in the last five days. The speed keeps up to almost 2 km/day. The gap between B-22's SW end and B-29 has grown to 25 km. ...
Just a short update on B-22's journey into open waters to the north.
Since Jan 20 the SW end has moved 11.5 km which averages to 1.6 km/day. The gap between the SW end and B-29 has widened to almost 29 km. Now, as B-22's SW end is further away from B-29 than the SE end of the outer ice field, a further opening will not widen the gap anymore.
Still a lot of ice mélange is held back by old grounded icebergs, but numerous icebergs and sea ice have managed to flow through this barrier.
Another update on B-22's journey into open waters.
Since Jan 20 the SW end has moved 22 km which averages to 2.2 km/day. The eastern part was even faster (31 km; there is still a slight counterclockwise pattern of its motion visible). The gap between the SW end of B-22 and B-29 is now almost 37 km wide.
Update on B-22's journey into open waters.
Since Jan 20 the iceberg has moved 31-36 km northward (depending on the side you measure, there is still a certain anticlockwise momentum present). This averages to 2.2-2.5 km/day.
The gap between B-22's SW end and B-29 is now ca. 44 km wide (a little uncertainty due to partly cloud coverage). Some of the ice mélange S of B-22 made it through the barrier of grounded icebergs, some others are queuing there. The majority of it seem to follow B-22 northward. Once B-22 has passed the Outer Ice Field completely the ice mélange will reach open (and warmer) waters so it will melt completely within the next weeks.
Update on B-22's movement.
Since Jan 20 this iceberg has moved 43-51 km. Its average speed is at 2.5-3 km/day.
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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #673 on: February 06, 2023, 10:23:43 PM »
Update 06.02.2023 B22
Worldview zoomed in
Another day not too cloudy over the area
B22 is almost out at sea..

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« Reply #674 on: February 08, 2023, 02:01:52 PM »
Update 08.02.2023 B22
Polarview  zoomed in

B22 is almost out at sea..

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« Reply #675 on: February 09, 2023, 06:06:08 PM »
 The 09.02.2023 Polarview update

B22 is now free to move out
A very interesting  long new crack has appeared on B29 (arrow)
I checked...It wasn't there the 30.01.2023

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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #676 on: February 09, 2023, 06:39:52 PM »
Chris83,
as you were told before, do not mark as B29 a block of sea ice enclosing some small icebergs (the little white spots).
Follow Stephan's posts, very precise on the subject
And if possible, please don't drown the thread with almost daily posts with B22's daily pictures...

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« Reply #677 on: February 10, 2023, 12:40:09 AM »
Indeed, the region below B-22A's current location is called the Outer ice field, and is a large patch of sea ice anchored to grounded icebergs.
B-29 is one of the large (but much smaller than B-22A) icebergs remaining grounded nearer to the coast. Stephan's posts pinpoint it properly.

I also agree, daily photos of B-22A are too much of a good thing. I recommend to string a few of those in a GIF, it would be more useful to the audience. Or to provide one every week or so.
In addition, as B-22A goes out to sea, which will be completed soon, its impact on Thwaites strongly diminishes and the importance of its small movements also diminishes.

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« Reply #678 on: February 10, 2023, 03:18:02 AM »
With all this talk about B22-A moving out to sea, I thought it was appropriate to try to place it on a larger scale map.  Location is a little approximate, but it is close enough for this purpose.  The bathymetry shown is for the temperature of the deep currents.  Gray areas are too shallow for deep currents, but it doesn't necessarily mean that B22-A is likely to be grounded again.

Click on image to see B22-A.

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« Reply #679 on: February 12, 2023, 03:50:26 AM »
Regarding B-22A's move out to sea, what do we think it will look like?  I expect in the near term that it will turn to the west (and looks like it may already be making the turn) and quite possibly smack into the picket fence of bergy/fast ice that gets caught on the shoals to the NW of B-22A for quite a ways.  I don't think that'll stop B-22A but there could be some theatrics as it makes contact. 

Beyond that, according to BYU tracking map:

https://www.scp.byu.edu/iceberg/

No iceberg from this area has made it truly into the Ross Sea.  Some have made it to the eastern edge but then went north and truly out to sea.  Of course, in the satellite era there hasn't been anything the size of B-22 so it may have a chance to make it's own history.

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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #680 on: February 14, 2023, 01:17:04 AM »
Today we got a great view on A76A. It started drifting north again, now close to crossing 57S. With northern/western wind the temperature rises to +4-5C.

Attached are two images from the SUOMI satellite. First in true color and second in daytime brightness temperature. The iceberg creates a cold region to the east which is still measurable over 200km away.

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« Reply #681 on: February 15, 2023, 12:54:41 AM »
The position of B22 on February 01 and February 13 on the background of the PIB (Pine Island Bay) bathymetry map
For the bathymetry I used BedMachine Antarctica v3 (2022) data.

Bye bye, have a good last voyage

This was the last evidence of what the Thwaites Tongue once was, it was only twenty years ago, but looking at the current state of the Tongue it looks like a fossil from a long time ago  :( >:(

Very large image (3000x200 px) click to enlarge fully

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« Reply #682 on: February 15, 2023, 03:47:42 AM »
A subsequent smaller calving from the Thwaites Ice Tongue can be seen on Worldview (2012 Nov 09) passing to the east of B22. Although it starts off a bit less than half the size of B22, it breaks up and is grounded at times before it finally disappears in 2018.
More details can be found on Reply 599, Jan. 08 2023.
We should expect to see B22 around for some years unless it exits "stage north" but it won't be performing the blocking action we have seen for the past years unless it drifts back west towards the continent and gets grounded again.

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« Reply #683 on: February 15, 2023, 06:56:23 AM »
What you are referring to is the collapse of the whole western part of the Tongue, see for example the animation of the post https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,2245.msg357555.html#msg357555, between the image of 15/02/2012 and that of 20/01/2013.
This is also what shows, in this animation, the green front line (2008) and the other lines (2019 and after).

The western half of the Tongue was definitively lost at that time and, as far as the eastern part is concerned, there is a progressive degradation towards an aggregation of the blocks while waiting to disintegrate completely.

B22 was indeed the last solid and resistant block generated by the Tongue.
But in the attached image: 1966 Tricamera aerial photography from map "Bakutis Coast to Marie Byrd Land_USG(1968)", one can see what a healthy Tongue could produce as an iceberg. B22 compared to the "Thwaites Iceberg Tongue" is a dwarf...
In this picture I have only kept the front lines in 2008 (green) and 2022 (purple)

The journey of B22 and these times will be dictated by the currents that will push it (and I think we should not forget the strong winds blowing from a constant direction for several days in a row). As for the possibility of running aground, I have provided the bathymetry map and as you can see there is no possibility of running aground unless you are pushed against the coast or back towards the bank in front of Bear Peninsula (look at the "-300" lines)

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« Reply #684 on: February 15, 2023, 11:51:31 AM »
The B22 track already looks to be bending towards the west, following the BYU iceberg tracks (from post 679) which run parallel to the coastline but at a distance. However, we have limited history for icebergs from this area as most break up quickly. My memory of tracing the smaller Thwaites Tongue Iceberg as it was breaking up (using Worldview) says that it became frozen into fast ice (at least for a period) closer to the coast before it reached the Ross Sea     .     .

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« Reply #685 on: February 18, 2023, 08:32:54 PM »
Update on my pet iceberg B-22 and its - now former - surroundings.

1. Let's begin with B-22. It has completely left the scenery and is now beyond the Outer Ice Field in open waters. Its northward movement has now turned left into a NW-ward direction (red arrow), as FredBear already noticed some days ago.
2. The Outer Ice Field has undergone a massive destruction and eroded partly (orange box). Unfortunately it is partly covered by clouds. I hope for a clear day to do a more intensive investigation.
3. Iceberg B-45 has moved clearly northward (turquoise arrow) and will not come into conflict with the line of grounded icebergs ex-south of B-22 (circled in yellow).
4. The movement direction of the sea ice and fast ice, eroding from Thwaites Ice Tongue and its surroundings (see baking's latest post in the "Sea Ice in Amundsen..." thread) is NW-ward (violet arrow). Many smaller icebergs and sea/fast ice are now piling up against the line of grounded icebergs (circled in yellow).
5. While iceberg B-28A is grounded, its brother B-29 and surrounding parts of ex-B-28 are still mobile, but seem to be locked somehow in shallow waters.
6. A small portion of fast ice from Crosson Ice Shelf has detached (green circle). It may not be the last piece that leaves here in this Austral summer ?!?

See attached picture. N is left, a little down. It covers an area of ca. 280*140 km.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2023, 08:38:02 PM by Stephan »
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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #686 on: February 28, 2023, 02:07:52 PM »
The new AMSR2 animation of the Antarctic ice shows the anticlockwise coastal current drift nicely plus some of the larger icebergs.
In the future it should also provide a better picture of the flows in the Weddell Sea - here although there is the coastal current hugging the shore I am seeing a north flow from near the southeast which turns west when it gets as far up as the Brunt Ice Shelf. Looking at its recent behaviour I am rather expecting A74 to start following that track, then the route of A23 northwards   .     .     ?
The visible gap in the pack ice around A23 (at about 72oS in the Weddell Sea) wanders a lot more than the iceberg but in larger images from Worldview the iceberg is still progressing.

https://seaice.de/AMSR2_Antarctic_SIC-LEADS.gif
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« Reply #687 on: March 08, 2023, 09:52:11 AM »
Interesting iceberg movements may be coming up as we approach the freezing season?
D30A is just approaching the melting fringe of the pack ice in the Weddell Sea - just as the freezing season starts!
Of other icebergs A70 is now moving north after traveling round Larsen B Bay, A76B & A76C have been marking time nearby and are all outside of the main pack ice now.
What will all their movements tell us - whether they will continue to move north, be surrounded by new pack ice or even become entrained in the drifting pack ice?

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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #688 on: March 09, 2023, 04:06:59 PM »
A76A looks to be breaking up on its southeastern corner? (Worldview 08/9 Mar 2023).
Some long flakes yesterday but more bits visible through clouds today. Not surprising as it is heading into the region of South Georgia at last.
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« Reply #689 on: March 13, 2023, 07:23:25 PM »
The BBC has run an item on three icebergs from the Weddell Sea:-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-64919341

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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #690 on: April 07, 2023, 01:09:23 AM »
Iceberg D30A has continued its travels slowly northwards, 107Km in the last month.
What has surprised me is the sudden(?) retreat of the surrounding pack ice eastwards in the last few days leaving the iceberg in clear water apart from a veil of ice that has drifted against its western side.
If you run the day backwards and forwards in the following link you can see it happen!

https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/?v=-2560786.261977611,1216399.4605274692,-1677586.261977611,1712527.4605274692&p=antarctic&e=EONET_5390,2023-03-24&efs=true&efa=false&efd=2022-12-07,2023-04-06&efc=dustHaze,manmade,seaLakeIce,severeStorms,snow,volcanoes,waterColor,wildfires&l=MODIS_Terra_Sea_Ice(hidden),MODIS_Aqua_Sea_Ice(hidden),VIIRS_SNPP_Brightness_Temp_BandI5_Night(hidden),VIIRS_SNPP_Brightness_Temp_BandI5_Day(hidden),VIIRS_NOAA20_Brightness_Temp_BandI5_Night(hidden),VIIRS_NOAA20_Brightness_Temp_BandI5_Day(hidden),MODIS_Aqua_Brightness_Temp_Band31_Night(hidden),MODIS_Aqua_Brightness_Temp_Band31_Day(hidden),MODIS_Terra_Brightness_Temp_Band31_Day(hidden),VIIRS_SNPP_DayNightBand_ENCC(hidden),Graticule_15m(hidden),Coastlines_15m,AMSRU2_Sea_Ice_Concentration_12km(hidden),SSMIS_Sea_Ice_Concentration_Snow_Extent(hidden),MODIS_Terra_Brightness_Temp_Band31_Night(hidden),BlueMarble_NextGeneration(hidden),VIIRS_NOAA20_CorrectedReflectance_BandsM3-I3-M11(hidden),VIIRS_NOAA20_CorrectedReflectance_BandsM11-I2-I1(hidden),VIIRS_SNPP_CorrectedReflectance_BandsM3-I3-M11(hidden),VIIRS_SNPP_CorrectedReflectance_BandsM11-I2-I1(hidden),MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_Bands721(hidden),MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_Bands721(hidden),MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_Bands367(hidden),VIIRS_NOAA20_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),VIIRS_SNPP_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor&lg=false&t=2023-04-06-T00%3A00%3A00Z
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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #691 on: April 29, 2023, 01:57:02 AM »
Finally a worthy update on A76A.

On one side a ~135 km2 section has broken off. The image quality isn't good enough to measure exact edges or to distinct between solid ice and an ice debris field.

Overall the iceberg is heading towards South Georgia, the current position is 300km to the west. At 54.5S it is safely outside the freezing zone for the winter.

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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #692 on: May 09, 2023, 05:09:06 AM »
Looks like A76A will disintegrate completely. A crack formed exactly lengthwise in the center of the iceberg. At one end two pieces already broke off.


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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #693 on: May 12, 2023, 06:36:10 PM »
A76A continues to crumble (Worldview):-

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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #694 on: May 30, 2023, 01:52:10 PM »
Check out the movement of the until recently largest iceberg A76. Calved in May 2021 from the Ronne Ice Shelf, the iceberg retained its shape until its recent collapse. The animation from AMSR2 89 GHz data does not have the best resolution, but consists of twice daily images. The data is not filtered, so there is still some noisy weather patterns.

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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #695 on: June 18, 2023, 09:31:34 AM »
Looking at the AMSR2 animation of sea ice concentration and movement around Antarctica, courtesy of the Alfred Wegener institute (AWI), based on the SIC-LEADS algorithm:-

It appears that A23 has crossed the 70oS line heading north up the Weddell Sea.
Worldview iceberg tracking seems to confirm that but images are black at night!

Both of the largest icebergs left around Antartica have set sail in the past year yet ice concentrations are struggling badly!

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« Reply #696 on: July 15, 2023, 04:15:20 PM »
The remains of iceberg A76A have continued their anticlockwise travel around South Georgia, now most of the slivers are to the north of the island. There are also a couple of (large!) pieces of ice remaining to the south of the western end of the island.

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Re: Antarctic Icebergs
« Reply #697 on: August 11, 2023, 11:07:37 PM »
The sun rises over A23 as it crosses the "Antarctic Circle". It is at a distance beyond 1,000km from where it was 12 months ago. It traveled northward in excess of 600km during 4 months of sundown. Surface air temps fluctuating between above zero and below -30°C.

A23 calved from the Filchner Ice Shelf in the winter of 1986 at a section where the ice was thicker than most of the surrounding ocean. Movement was constrained by bathymetry for 3 decades to about 200km off shore before eventually thinning and gouging the seabed enough to force passage across shallower depths last year. Between 1990 to 1991, A24 from the same calving had made a similar trajectory around the gyre once in deeper water. From this point it headed north to warm water between the peninsula and South Orkney Islands breaking apart near the Falkland Islands. Originating from the deeper segment of the ice shelf to A23, it was thought to be close to 400m thick, with drift impacted by deeper currents than most bergs. A map tracks its path on this USGS page via underscored link within the body of text:
https://eros.usgs.gov/media-gallery/earthshot/the-1986-filchner-calving

A81 from the January Brunt calving has drifted down past Filchner close to where A74 was 12 months ago, which calved from Brunt in February 2021. A23 was perhaps quite significantly obstructing currents such as now rotate the Brunt bergs around with full pack momentum. The sea is less inclined to retain ice.

The quick clear out of icebergs also signals mass clear out of multi year ice as it follows the flows. According to AMSR2 ice age map, perhaps three quarters of ice 3 years old or more, spirals out high eastward through the early sunlight hours above the polar circle. Recent years seem to push a lot of MYI out of the zone of what remains at seasonal minimum extent. When strong winds move the pack north in the winter, new ice formation blocks strong winds pushing it back down southward. Freezing season has been quite damaging as well as slow in ice formation and it could leave the sea ice prone to go.

The strip of fast ice north of Berkner Island between Filchner and Ronne Ice Shelves, broke off as the sun went down late March. It had persisted through 2022. In recent years, the area in front of Filchner had tended to consist of older ice, slower to clear the bay or melt, and receiving MYI import from the Indian Ocean. For extended periods of time it consisted largely of fast ice while A23 staked its position in the bay. Now other than icebergs, it's filled with young ice. An extended cold surrounding anomaly now history. Future giant ice bergs are awaiting calving events.

A lot of icebergs have headed around the northern Weddell ice edge and perhaps they disturb surrounding ice formation rather than encourage it. More temps -30°C required. Time is short. If outer ice coverage is destined to shift from being a month behind in freeze, to being a month ahead in melt, an imminent bare ocean event outpacing the Arctic is far from inconceivable. Icebergs will be plain to see on dark seas.

I added an arrow to the bathymetry map to show roughly where A23 was caught up for so long. Original map found from here:
https://phys.org/news/2019-12-team-high-precision-antarctic-ice-sheet.html
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« Reply #698 on: August 14, 2023, 08:41:51 PM »
B-22 is back on stage.
But not at the place it used to be around for two decades.
It appears far northwest of Pine Island Bay (around 500 km from PIG), slowly moving with the currents in NNE direction.
As far as I can see my pet iceberg is still in good shape - please compare its solid structure with the mess that is nowadays emitted from Thwaites Ice Tongue...
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« Reply #699 on: August 16, 2023, 02:48:25 AM »
I believe the other two large icebergs that were swimming through the middle of the Weddell pack ahead of A23A were D28 from Amery West Antarctica calving September 2019, and D30A which it dislodged from Princess Raghild Coast in June 2021.

A76B and A76C from Ronne Ice Shelf calving of June 2021 haven't moved much, somewhat constrained by bathymetry near the old Larsen B embayment, though they are mobile. Sea ice has held reasonably fast in place with the spray of icebergs from inlet glaciers since April like a cheap imitation Larsen B of 25 years ago.
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