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Re: The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
« Reply #850 on: February 19, 2019, 05:45:47 AM »
Hedges at truthdig: infantilization of dialogue

I will give one xtended quote from the article, but do read the whole thing:

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Postman, in his book “Amusing Ourselves to Death,” writes that after the development of the telegraph, “News took the form of slogans, to be noted with excitement, to be forgotten with dispatch.” Arguing that the 19th-century invention is the basis for communication in the digital age, he says, “Its language was also entirely discontinuous. One message had no connection to that which preceded or followed it. Each ‘headline’ stood alone as its own context. The receiver of the news had to provide a meaning if he could. The sender was under no obligation to do so. And because of all this, the world as depicted by the telegraph began to appear unmanageable, even undecipherable. The line-by-line, sequential, continuous form of the printed page slowly began to lose its resonance as a metaphor of how knowledge was to be acquired and how the world was to be understood. ‘Knowing’ the facts took on a new meaning, for it did not imply that one understood implications, background, or connections. Telegraphic discourse permitted no time for historical perspectives and gave no priority to the qualitative.”

Those who seek to communicate outside of digital structures to question or challenge the dominant narrative, to deal in ambiguity and nuance, to have discussions rooted in verifiable fact and historical context, are becoming incomprehensible to most of modern society. As soon as they employ a language that is not grounded in the dominant clichés and stereotypes, they are not understood. Television, computers and smartphones have addicted a generation and conditioned it to talk and think in the irrational, incoherent baby talk it is fed day after day. This cultural, historical, economic and social illiteracy delights the ruling elites ... "
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Re: The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
« Reply #851 on: February 19, 2019, 06:58:50 AM »
Well about time some sources to support the "claims" and opinions. Good stuff. Much appreciated :)

Did you catch the error where he incorrectly assumed the GND was to make the entire US ghg emissions net zero by 2030 ... and not only Electricity generation .. which is what the GND refers to for net zero emissions?
 
Yes. Jimmy Dore makes errors, says things that are not true or accurate. Sometimes. He also has a particular values bias. He's more left than the democrats are, he might even be more left than AOC and Tulsi. This is all obvious and upfront. He does have opinions .. he is not broadsheet newspaper whose reason for being is reporting all the news all over the place all the time.

RT has its preferred territory too. That's obvious and needs to be understood before "swallowing" their opinions and editorial bias "whole" without a thought or a cross check. :)

Let me know if you find any really serious "errors" in their reporting of the news facts, in quotes and so on.
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« Reply #852 on: February 19, 2019, 09:04:07 PM »
Meanwhile I have a WaPo subscription. The Dave Weigel piece mentioned above has a link to an RT piece and explains why it is BS.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/20/the-seth-rich-conspiracy-shows-how-fake-news-still-works/
Required reading for those who haven't yet sorted out the DNC-Bernie thing - and more evidence for my recent statement here about spreading Trumputin propaganda.
Quotes later.
(my striking out)
The article is incomplete on the DNC-Bernie thing, but that wasn't its purpose anyhow. What is missing is Donna Brazile's leaking of primary debate questions. But that is a nothingburger, too. (Who da thunk someone in Flint MI would ask about lead in water. Who da thunk someone would ask about death penalty. Anyhow the questions came out differently.)

Yet, RT makes a big thing about this frivolous lawsuit by some Berners:

‘Total blackout’: Lawyer suing DNC for fraud speaks out on lack of media coverage
https://www.rt.com/usa/388882-dnc-lawsuit-media-blackout/

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Another similar thing I might dig out from German RT: The case of Lisa F, an underage German-Russian girl supposedly abducted and raped. That was all over Russian media and sparked demonstrations in Germany by the Russian infiltrated right wing. (The AfD party even had it's crazy party program printed in Russian). German RT recently had a follow-up, to stir that crock again.

Else I simply don't follow RT (and Sputnik) anymore, as I have cleaned my Facebook feeds of trolls and weirdos. I even de-friend real.world friends of mine on FB if necessary.
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Back to Jimmy Dore. Once I used a swear word on him. Meanwhile the armchair psychiatrist has a diagnosis: Mediocre psychopathy. (*) That might explain why some non-Aspergers find him convincing. Here's is what triggered my finding.

Quoth WaPo's David Weigel:
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Briefly, before Wheeler recanted his story, the Young Turks network's “Jimmy Dore Show” chewed over the revelation that Rich was in contact with WikiLeaks.
(my emph. of the bone of contention.)

Below is Jimmy Dore's reply. Note the exact text of the tweet sarcastically dismissed by Weigel. Dore makes a whole long rant out of it. Great example of projection. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

(Yes, Amazon Web Services won a contract with the CIA in the same year Bezos bought the WaPo. But that is an entirely different thing. AWS were simply better than IBM and already widely used by govt. And sure the CIA isn't that stupid to let Bezos read their stuff. They have serious encryption at the very base of the technology.)

Washington Post Reporter Dave Weigel Caught Publicly Lying About Conflicts (Part 1)


It is said that Bezos did some internet-age tech overhaul of the WaPo. The mediocre search engine does not hint at that. And only goes back to 2005. (Where's all the yummy Iraq stuff? :) )

For the following it is good enough. This link gives 60 articles for "bezos cia cloud":
https://www.washingtonpost.com/newssearch/?query=bezos%20cia%20cloud&sort=Date&datefilter=All%20Since%202005&spellcheck
They are obviously not keeping silent about this deal.


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Re: The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
« Reply #853 on: February 19, 2019, 09:54:31 PM »
Malik at irishtimes argues that a crisis like Brexit was inevitable. And necessary.

"It feels like the last days in the compound of a cult that once flourished but is now finally and fatally besieged."

"The end of such a cult, that operates outside the bounds of common sense, is inevitable. Not only that, it should be welcomed. It is time. It is time for the country to come to terms with the fact that it has for too long been in denial about some of its fundamental flaws  ..."

"Brexit has kicked off important discussions about Britain that we were otherwise probably never going to have."

"We now realise that the business of serious politics in this country rewards those whose only skill is keeping up the appearance of having a skill."

"Also finally exposed is the unbridgeable gap, both economic and cultural, between centre and peripheries, between the winners and the losers"

" Once the question was asked – in or out? – all the grievances, justified or not, could be projected on it, with “in” being widely seen as a vote for the status quo. Within this frame, nothing else matters – not economic predictions, not warnings about medicines running out, nor threats of the need to stockpile foods. The remain campaign could not have done anything differently: it lost the moment the question was asked ..."

"And so, maybe, in the end, we will finally believe that immigration is necessary for an economy and an NHS to function, that the inequality between the south-east and the rest of Britain is unsustainable, that our political class is over-pedigreed and under-principled. We might even believe that other crises, such as climate change, are real, too."

Read the whole thing:

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/britain-needs-a-day-of-reckoning-brexit-will-provide-it-1.3797754

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« Reply #854 on: February 20, 2019, 04:22:31 AM »
Thanks again for the reply and the detailed information Martin. It helps.

Meanwhile I have a WaPo subscription. The Dave Weigel piece mentioned above has a link to an RT piece and explains why it is BS.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/20/the-seth-rich-conspiracy-shows-how-fake-news-still-works/
Required reading for those who haven't yet sorted out the DNC-Bernie thing - and more evidence for my recent statement here about spreading Trumputin propaganda.
Quotes later.
(my striking out)
The article is incomplete on the DNC-Bernie thing, but that wasn't its purpose anyhow. What is missing is Donna Brazile's leaking of primary debate questions. But that is a nothingburger, too. (Who da thunk someone in Flint MI would ask about lead in water. Who da thunk someone would ask about death penalty. Anyhow the questions came out differently.)

It happened. It was real news, right? It was accurate. But it's always up to the viewer/reader to decide how important it is to them. I don't see an issue there.

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Yet, RT makes a big thing about this frivolous lawsuit by some Berners:

‘Total blackout’: Lawyer suing DNC for fraud speaks out on lack of media coverage
https://www.rt.com/usa/388882-dnc-lawsuit-media-blackout/

A big thing? Seems to me it was lawyer doing that. Complaining about the silence of the MSM. Is that not another example of them doing just that? However, sure editors decide what gets through, and so the story never grew legs. RT is covering it, or rather the news comedy show on RT is covering it. They have an angle to pursue and that was pointing out the dishonest, back room deals and conspiracies within the DNC / Clinton campaigns to undermine Benrie unethically. If it was a nothing burger then how come the DNC chair lost her job?

It was an issue, it was real, it did happen and RT is pushing the story more than the MSM. Like all other alt-media sites did. But if it is of no importance to you that is fine as well. The thing is given the larger story about Russia Gate what else would you expect from RT in this case?

This is what happens in every media outlet from the NYTs to Fox to WaPo to Real News to Caitlin Johnston. They have their overriding focuses. If one is concerned about BS stories and Fake news isn't the real issue whether or not the story by RT was accurate and true, versus that they were actually covering it or why?

If you don't like Redacted tonight, then don't watch it. I don't. I do not subscribe to Jimmy Dores channel either. But 500K do. Did you know that Democrat leftie / socialist bent AOC a first term US Congresswoman has 3 million twitter followers? That Bernie sanders came with a few % points of beating Hillary in the 2016 Primaries before the DNC Gerrymandered  System got involved?

Last question on this is did NEVEN post info about this news story here alluding that it was a BIG story, or pushing you to pay attention to it?

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Another similar thing I might dig out from German RT: The case of Lisa F, an underage German-Russian girl supposedly abducted and raped. That was all over Russian media and sparked demonstrations in Germany by the Russian infiltrated right wing. (The AfD party even had it's crazy party program printed in Russian). German RT recently had a follow-up, to stir that crock again.

Else I simply don't follow RT (and Sputnik) anymore, as I have cleaned my Facebook feeds of trolls and weirdos. I even de-friend real.world friends of mine on FB if necessary.
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There is no doubt that RT (Russia in general) holds somewhat conservative social views. In some ways it's like the USA in the 1960s/70s - they are always providing stories about "western liberal" Identity politics and how "crazy" it is to those traditional views. It is what it is, they do have the bent, true.

But does that mean when RT does a story on Assad, quotes him interviews, or provides live feeds to Putins speeches or quotes Lavrov - or RUPTLY goes live feeds of the yellow Vests in Paris - that that amounts to a "distorted/fake/false" news service? etc etc

I think many people in the west forget that Putin and Lavrov do in fact represent he overall Russian people's polity and values. To present those values to the west vai a western based RT news outlet doesn't seem anathema to me.

No one is forcing anyone to watch it and if you watch it no one is forcing you or manipulating into believing 100% lock stock or barrel. YOU are the one that gets to decide what you accept, or reject. That works the same way in choosing breakfast cereal. :)

Anyway how does a % of crappy news stories make the rest of it trash? It doesn't. Besides I have never heard anyone here say to you that you MUST watch RT, or Jimmy Dore, or you MUST accept it or we will call you bad names or falsely accuse of DESTROYING THE FORUM???

See what I eamn? Do you see where I am coming from here? :)

But again, my question is -- did NEVEN (or I or anyone) push this story onto you here?
And if Neven did, did he also call you names and gaslight you if you disagreed with the content or you refused to look at it? Like what is the problem here? 

How does only saying RT is total garbage and NEVEN is 'a creep' etc etc add anything worthwhile to the ASIF or epople's awareness and knoweldge of what is happening in this world ... that does or might be affecting action on agw/cc?

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Back to Jimmy Dore. Once I used a swear word on him. Meanwhile the armchair psychiatrist has a diagnosis: Mediocre psychopathy. (*) That might explain why some non-Aspergers find him convincing. Here's is what triggered my finding.

Quoth WaPo's David Weigel:
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Briefly, before Wheeler recanted his story, the Young Turks network's “Jimmy Dore Show” chewed over the revelation that Rich was in contact with WikiLeaks.
(my emph. of the bone of contention.)

Below is Jimmy Dore's reply. Note the exact text of the tweet sarcastically dismissed by Weigel. Dore makes a whole long rant out of it. Great example of projection. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

(Yes, Amazon Web Services won a contract with the CIA in the same year Bezos bought the WaPo. But that is an entirely different thing. AWS were simply better than IBM and already widely used by govt. And sure the CIA isn't that stupid to let Bezos read their stuff. They have serious encryption at the very base of the technology.)

Washington Post Reporter Dave Weigel Caught Publicly Lying About Conflicts (Part 1)

Sure Jimmy Dore sure does get animated and hand wavingly a lot! (smile) Sometimes well over the top and over nothing much at all. He's an emotional guy. It is who he is.

I'll reverse my approach this time ... but did NEVEN post that video here and make it a big deal too?

If not then what does Neven have to do with what RT and Jimmy Dore are doing 24/7/365 days per year in toto?

I'll tell you - nothing! So who is getting emotionally animated and being hand wavy this time? :)

As to Seth Rich, I know the story, I have looked into the details and there are clear reasons why it became a an issue for some. Clearly so. Undeniably so. 

Was Jimmy really making hay about "non-disclosure" and beating it up over the top? Yes. But he was still being "factual" nevertheless. It's OPINION about it that pisses you off here. WEll tough martin, people have different opinions nthan you - that's life! Deal with it. What's Neven got to do about that?

Because here we are today and CNN/Facebook is making the same level of OVER THE TOP snide over the top HAND WAVY ACCUSATIONS THEMSELVES NO DIFFERENT THAN Jimmy Dore ...   https://www.rt.com/news/451872-facebook-private-company-censorship/

Isn't the real mature wise question is it an issue and is it dangerous or not? Look at Austrian history and get back to me will you?

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It is said that Bezos did some internet-age tech overhaul of the WaPo. The mediocre search engine does not hint at that. And only goes back to 2005. (Where's all the yummy Iraq stuff? :) )

For the following it is good enough. This link gives 60 articles for "bezos cia cloud":
https://www.washingtonpost.com/newssearch/?query=bezos%20cia%20cloud&sort=Date&datefilter=All%20Since%202005&spellcheck
They are obviously not keeping silent about this deal.


I get it. I hear what you're saying and can see what you are pointing to here. You do have a point for sure. I understand that. You've made your decisions as a result. Totally sane and rational to CULL your Facebook of bullshit stuff and the people/orgs you no longer want to hear from or about. You are taking responsibility for what you're willing to hear. That's just fine by me.


But why I can't I or anyone else also still post new videos by Jimmy Dore interviewing people who are actually on the ground in Venezuelan telling us things so completely different than what Donald Trump Scot Bolton and CNN and the WapPo and the NYTs are telling us?

What is so wrong and dangerous hearing voices recounting Venezuela history (or recent Democratic Party history, or GOP history, or USA history) that is different than other voices that permeate the airwaves?

Neven has been really really clear and repetitive of what he sees as the #1 Barrier to climate change action today. It's one mans opinion. What si there to be afriad of and what is so pathological or psychopathic about NEVEN presenting his own perosnal Point of Views on his very own Forum .. or even if he didn't own it and was just being another forum participant in discussions and sharing things that he LIKES?

Where is the psychological illness / personality disorder in that and what is there to FEAR about that?

Fuck, he might even be RIGHT! Like a voice in the wilderness, like Martin Luther King speaking truth to power and the cultural insanities of the 1960s and 1970s in the United States of America that persist to this day.


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Know it. been there and done that, bought the T-Shirt Martin. I think you are complaining about a pebble in your shoe while living in a world of Boulders but not seeing any of them!!! LOL :)

imho, fwiw, I think there are far too many people on the ASIF who are so stuck in their ways and beliefs and psychological conditioning they are still living here:



That song came out the year after the US/CIA orchestrated Chilean Coup happened! It was a special project that took several years coordinated actions to bring it about and get away with it as being justifiable and the cause celeb for Freedom of the People!

They have a "Manual" for these Operations. Regularly updated to take into account modern day variations like new technologies and social media for such things you know.

That's the FIRST nation to totally embrace Neocon Neoliberalism Economic rationalism and an Economy on Ayn Rand Steroids ... so much for Freedom and Democracy and the evils of Socialism.

Facts are it is Pinochet who was the murdering criminal Pathological Psychopath as were the CIA and Nixon, and the  Congress Politicians and behind the scenes Operatives with the help and total backing of the US media who pulled this off. 

This who refuse to learn from history are destined to repeat it.

( someone really smart first said that and other really smart people keep on repeating it hoping one day it will actually sink into the human consciousness. )

But have a nice day and I hope you enjoy the song! :)
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Re: The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
« Reply #855 on: February 20, 2019, 04:57:32 AM »
Funny. What is the thread title?

P.S.: The Russian girls I've met gave me totally different impression. :)
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« Reply #856 on: February 20, 2019, 07:32:48 AM »
Funny. What is the thread title?

 The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism

Both of us are on topic it seems. I wasn't complaining about anything or anyone. Nice chat. :)
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« Reply #857 on: February 20, 2019, 07:38:10 AM »
Who is the best?

If you’re a media professional writing hit-pieces about Russia and your latest bombshell piece turned out to be fake news, don't worry, it can still win an award in France. This story about Vladimir Putin on a ‘tiger hunt’ did.

Out of 15 initial candidates narrowed down by an online vote, the judges ultimately picked three. The international ‘golden hoax’ winner, in line with the spirit of the times, was a story connected to Russia – though in this particular case, Russia wasn’t accused of fabricating fake news, but vindicated as its victim.

The golden Pinocchio went to France 2 for a story it had released in August 2018 about world leaders’ extravagant holidaying habits and which claimed that Putin had gone on a “tiger hunt”. It even provided pictures to prove the point – Putin with his hand on a motionless tiger sprawled on the forest floor, as though boasting over a prized kill.

Except the truth wasn’t what the pictures were showing. The images were taken from a 2008 report on a national tiger preservation program and Putin was doing the exact opposite of killing an endangered species. In a gesture of support for the preservation effort, he was putting a GPS tracking collar on the animal.

Called out by RT France, the outlet quickly took down the story from its website, though not before a screenshot could be taken.

https://www.rt.com/news/451857-france2-putin-tiger-fake-news/

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« Reply #858 on: February 21, 2019, 04:42:42 AM »
(Looks like I have to purge another real.world friend from my Facebook feed. Thus: )

Surely people of good will can disagree about interpretations when a world away from actual events?


Real ‘obscene masquerade’: How BBC depicted staged hospital scenes as proof of Douma chemical attack

Vanessa Beeley is an independent investigative journalist and photographer. She is associate editor at 21st Century Wire.

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https://www.rt.com/op-ed/451623-bbc-staged-footage-douma-chemical-attack/

Vanessa Beeley... 21st Century Wire... Well-known bullshitter.


https://www.polygraph.info/a/russian-embassy-media-falsely-report-bbc-producer-s-claim-about-douma-hospital-video-/29779459.html
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Russian Embassy Misleads on BBC Producer’s Claim About Douma Hospital Video
February 20, 2019

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So, what do we know?

* Independent journalists and forensic experts conclude a chlorine canister was dropped on the apartment building.
* The OPCW in a preliminary report says chlorine was detected at the scene.
* Dalati alleges the scene at the hospital, well away from the apartment building, was staged.
* He further tweets "the ATTACK DID HAPPEN."
* The Russian Embassy in the UK omits that conclusion from its own Twitter account -- which leads to our "misleading" verdict.

It's important to consider the possibility Dalati's allegation that the hospital video was staged could be true, but so far he has provided no verifiable evidence for the claim, which he said he could "conclusively" prove. In the future, if he does provide such evidence, we will weigh that on its own merit.

Polygraph.info also sought information and comment from the BBC regarding Dalati's status with the BBC - whether he was posted in the Douma area at the time and if the findings that he tweeted were considered BBC reporting and discussed with editors. We have received no response, If we do so, we will update this fact check.



https://medium.com/@Brian_Whit/vanessa-beeley-the-syrian-conflicts-goddess-of-propaganda-2c84f850dba4
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Vanessa Beeley — the Syrian conflict’s goddess of propaganda
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Vanessa Beeley, a supporter of the Assad regime whose reports from Syria have turned her into a social media celebrity. The Russian propaganda channel, RT, describes her as “an independent investigative journalist” and, in addition to her Russian TV appearances, she is associate editor of 21st Century Wire, the conspiracy theory website that publishes most of her work.

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The truth, though, is that her reports from Syria are basically crap. To see why, let’s look in detail at one of her recent articles — a long one published by 21st Century Wire on April 8 and headed: “SYRIA: The Egregious Western Media ‘Chemical Weapon’ Fraud in Eastern Ghouta”.

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« Reply #859 on: February 21, 2019, 05:26:24 AM »
FLACK - aka Discrediting Journalists and Sources - This is Fourth Filter used to Manufacture Consent See here https://youtu.be/pf-tQYcZGM4?t=234 

This time the focus is upon Vanessa Beeley, the Journalist doing the reporting along with the default dismissing of RT as the publisher.

But what about the actual source of the story, the subject of the story being reported, the journalist that Vanessa Beeley is reporting on?

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Riam Dalati is on the BBC production team based in Beirut and describes himself, on his Twitter page, as an “esteemed colleague” of Quentin Sommerville, the BBC’s Middle East correspondent. Dalati broke ranks with his UK Government-aligned media, on Twitter, to announce that “after almost 6 months of investigation, I can prove, without a doubt, that the Douma hospital scene was staged.”

Has anyone analysed that "investigation" in detail? Looked at what is behind his claims? The basis of why he says "without a doubt"? I ahve not. Where does one go to read that "report" and "analysis"?

But, Riam Dalati is not the only source or legitimate credible journalist  that has questioned the legitimacy of the Douma attacks and the presented material and first hand accounts that also question the claims made by Bellingcat and other media and Govt sources.

So where is the details? There are none.
Previous memes are repeated as the only argument against Riam Dalati. Coupled with discrediting the source ops by the MSM media and those who believe a different story of events eg Vanessa Beeley using Ad hom attacks and Strawman arguments alone - logical fallacies is all one is left with here. 

People are left to "believe" this source or that sources opinions. Which boils down to a question like who to believe: the Christian Bible, the Koran or the Bhagavad Gita? 

So where are we now? Are we any closer to the facts and the whole truth yet? No we are not. The arguments and the social media HYPE continues.
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Re: The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
« Reply #860 on: February 21, 2019, 06:11:04 AM »
FLACK - aka Discrediting Journalists and Sources - This is Fourth Filter used to Manufacture Consent See here https://youtu.be/pf-tQYcZGM4?t=234 

This time the focus is upon Vanessa Beeley, the Journalist doing the reporting along with the default dismissing of RT as the publisher.
Nice case of projection!

Quoth Vanessa Beeley at RT loc. cit.
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On two significant occasions to date, Dalati appears to deviate from the BBC narrative road map in Syria. However, Dalati had participated in the corporate media lynching of journalists and academics who had dared to question the dominant “chemical attack” narrative, at the time of the alleged incident in Douma, dismissing them as conspiracy theorists.

Dalati himself tweets: "The ATTACK DID HAPPEN," (His uppercase)
Open source: https://web.archive.org/web/20190214082919/https:/twitter.com/Dalatrm

So, Vanessa makes something much more out of Dalati's criticism of staged hospital scenes AFTER the attack. This is the very definition of bullshit. (It is meanwhile practically beyond doubtability that Assad dropped chlorine. Not Sarin etc. Still, a chemical attack.)


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P.S: When I see polit bullshit, first I google, then I look at Neven's polit threads. I know it is bad to engage trolls or bone heads. But sometimes it is fun to make them scream. I learned that last century with Bundeswehr Feldwebels, thus my nom de guerre, Gissbo. A friend of mine was very likely a East German/KGB trained polit troll (or, how they were called back then: a paper tiger). He got out of this by faking hebephrenia (Jugendirresein).
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/german-english/jugendirresein

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« Reply #861 on: February 21, 2019, 07:40:18 AM »
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Dalati himself tweets: "The ATTACK DID HAPPEN,"

Here's a copy paste in full of that tweet.

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Truth is @James__Harkin got the basics right in terms of 's "propaganda" value.
The ATTACK DID HAPPEN, Sarin wasn't used, but we'll have to wait for @OPCW to prove Chlorine or otherwise.
However, everything else around the attack was manufactured for maximum effect.


Nothing to see there? Yet he Beeley are still being criticised.

Quote: "As a Journalist you should be questioning everyone."
https://theintercept.com/2019/02/09/douma-chemical-attack-evidence-syria/

Nothing to see here?

What else did he say via the RT news report?
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The July 2018 OPCW interim report has already discredited the early sensationalism of western media reporting. “No organophosphorus nerve agents or their degradation products were detected, either in the environmental samples or in plasma samples from the alleged casualties,” it stated. No Sarin.

Nothing to see there?

[ snipping the rest as it really makes no difference and only goes over old ground ]
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« Reply #862 on: February 21, 2019, 10:42:35 AM »
Ooops the secret 'collusion' is now totally out in the open .... 'Putin Puppet' Jimmy Dore is now an expert 'talking head' being called in to be 'interviewed' on Russia Today Cable TV.

Now what will (or can) Neven do about 'that'?

https://www.rt.com/news/452031-facebook-censorhip-jimmy-dore/



Maybe nothing Jimmy says now about any subject can be accepted as OK even when it's factually correct and logical. Which is fine. Personally I don't believe anyone. I make up my own mind, all things considered.  It depends ... :)
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« Reply #863 on: February 22, 2019, 12:14:07 AM »
Hickel at Jacobin savages Pinker's narrative of progress:

"the period 1820 to circa 1950 was one of violent dispossession across much of the Global South ... colonizers had immense difficulty getting people to work on their mines and plantations. As it turns out, people tended to prefer their subsistence lifestyles, and wages were not high enough to induce them to leave. Colonizers had to coerce people into the labor market: imposing taxes, enclosing commons and constraining access to food, or just outright forcing people off their land."

"The Maddison database on which you rely might tell us what the dispossessed gained in GDP per capita (eventually), but it does not tell us whether those gains offset their loss of lands, commons, supportive communities, stable local economies. And it tells us nothing about what Global South economies might be like today had they been free to industrialize on their own terms ..."

"Using the $1.90 line shows that only 700 million people live in poverty. But note that the UN’s Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) says that 815 million people do not have enough calories to sustain even “minimal” human activity. 1.5 billion are food insecure and do not have enough calories to sustain “normal” human activity. And 2.1 billion suffer from malnutrition. How can there be fewer poor people than hungry and malnourished people? "

" if we look at absolute numbers, the trend changes completely. The poverty rate has worsened dramatically since 1981, from 3.2 billion to 4.2 billion"

"What matters, rather, is the extent of global poverty vis-à-vis our capacity to end it. As I have pointed out before, our capacity to end poverty (e.g., the cost of ending poverty as a proportion of the income of the non-poor) has increased many times faster than the proportional poverty rate has decreased (to use your preferred measure again). By this metric we are doing worse than ever before. Indeed, our civilization is regressing. Why? Because the vast majority of the yields of our global economy are being captured by the world’s rich ... only 5 percent of new income from global growth goes to the poorest 60 percent of humanity"

"it will take more than one hundred years to end poverty at $1.90/day and over two hundred years to end it at $7.40/day. "

"We can end poverty right now simply by making the rules of our global economy fairer for the world’s majority "

"A higher life expectancy among the poor is no justification for condemning them to a tiny and ever-shrinking share of global income. That is not a morally defensible position."

"According to the FAO’s earlier methodology, both the number and proportion of people in hunger was higher in 2009 than in 1995 "

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https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/02/steven-pinker-global-poverty-neoliberalism-progress

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« Reply #864 on: February 22, 2019, 01:49:30 AM »
And in the vein of the last post, a charming Will Self aided by Rod Little eviscerates the position that our times are, historically, the best times. An hour and a half plus.



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« Reply #865 on: February 22, 2019, 02:59:51 AM »
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Contra my intentions I herewith propose yet another important category of journalism from beyond Good and Bad and the AND....

Hopefully some history in the making next week...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/21/opinion/mueller-report-trump-democrats-barr.html
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« Reply #866 on: February 22, 2019, 03:55:05 AM »

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« Reply #867 on: February 22, 2019, 05:16:21 AM »
Returning to topic, some excellent journalism from my favorite source, short enough to post in full: The House Takes on America’s Voting-Rights Problem: H.R. 1 is an ambitious set of responses to the most pressing challenges facing American democracy, almost all of which were brought into sharper focus by the 2016 election. (Jelani Cobb) https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/02/18/the-house-takes-on-americas-voting-rights-problem

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The crisis of democracy that has attended Donald Trump’s Presidency has visibly manifested itself in challenges to the free press, the judiciary, and the intelligence agencies, but among its more corrosive effects has been the corruption of basic mathematics. Since the 2016 election, Trump has periodically rage-tweeted about an alleged three million non-citizens whose ballots delivered the popular-vote majority to Hillary Clinton. His fulminations were a fanciful extension of the Republican Party’s concern, despite all evidence to the contrary, that American elections are riddled with voter fraud. The math does, however, support a different number—one that truthfully points to how American democracy is being undermined.

Nearly two million fewer African-Americans voted in the 2016 election than did in 2012. That decline can be attributed, in part, to the fact that it was the first election since 2008 in which Barack Obama was not on the ballot and, in part, to an ambivalence toward Clinton among certain black communities. Civil-rights groups and members of the Congressional Black Caucus point to another factor as well: 2016 was the first Presidential election since the Shelby County v. Holder Supreme Court decision, which eviscerated sections of the Voting Rights Act. Suppressive tactics, some old, some new, ensued—among them, voter-roll purges; discriminatory voter-I.D. rules; fewer polling places and voting machines; and reductions in early-voting periods. After an election in which some two million Americans went missing, the Administration concluded that three million too many had shown up at the polls. (The equation here is: reality minus delusion equals three million.)

Last week, with these events in mind, a hearing on H.R. 1, the For the People Act, took place in the House of Representatives. Elijah Cummings, Democrat of Maryland, the new chair of the Committee on Oversight and Reform, referred to the bill, in his opening remarks, as “one of the boldest reform packages to be considered in the history of this body.” He added, “This sweeping legislation will clean up corruption in government, fight secret money in politics, and make it easier for American citizens across this great country to vote.” That statement was not partisan hyperbole. The bill is a broad, imaginative, and ambitious set of responses to the most pressing challenges facing American democracy, many of which preceded the 2016 election, but almost all of which were brought into sharper focus by it.

Implicit in the choice to take up an electoral-reform bill as the first act of the new Democratic majority in the House was the decision to confront not only these injustices but, more fundamentally, the forces that have allowed them to come into existence. The bill contains provisions to insure access to paper ballots, in order to verify the accuracy of voting results; to establish early voting in all states for federal elections; and to launch independent redistricting commissions, to address the problem of partisan gerrymandering.

A federal matching system for small-dollar political contributions would serve as a counterbalance to the sums that wealthy individuals and corporations pour into spending for political elections. Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates would be required to release their tax returns. The bill also includes provisions for mandating transparency in digital-ad spending, strengthening disclosure policies regarding foreign gifts to officeholders, and strictly enforcing the Foreign Agents Registration Act.

A section focussing on voting rights is of particular interest. The Supreme Court’s ruling in Shelby essentially held that the Voting Rights Act was outmoded, relying on presumptions about racism, especially in Southern states, which didn’t reflect the progress that had been made since 1965, when the bill was signed. The Court, however, left open the possibility that Congress might bring it in line with more recent circumstances, if warranted. H.R. 1 could spur the creation of new formulas for determining which states should be subject to federal oversight. It might, for example, be possible to take into account recent voter-suppression efforts in Ohio, Wisconsin, North Dakota, and other states, thereby expanding the reach of the Act.

For those progressives who were wary of what the Democrats would do with their new majority in the House, H.R. 1 is as reassuring a start as anyone could have hoped for. But the civic fervor behind it has not been entirely welcomed on Capitol Hill. Mitch McConnell, the Senate Majority Leader, denounced H.R. 1 as “a power grab that’s smelling more and more like exactly what it is.” Setting aside the question of what a power grab smells like, McConnell’s outrage was striking, even in a period as cynical as this one. Taking aim at a provision that would make Election Day a day off for federal employees (with the idea that private companies would follow suit for their employees), McConnell said, “Just what America needs—another paid holiday,” then predicted that federal employees would use the time to volunteer for Democratic campaigns.

It’s not uncommon for a single bill to encompass such a wide range of concerns. But the concerns presented in H.R. 1 point to another unanswered question. For the past twenty months, public attention has been focussed on the special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into possible Russian interference in the 2016 election. Intelligence agencies, media outlets, and independent researchers have consistently pointed to Russian intentions to sway the electorate in Trump’s favor. Possible motivations for these efforts—from belated score-settling for the Cold War to alleviating sanctions—aren’t hard to discern. But we’ve seldom asked about American motivations in creating the conditions that facilitated such meddling. Russian attempts to influence American voters—including ad purchases on social media intended to foment racial division—coexisted with and benefitted from domestic attempts to discourage people from casting a vote.

American democracy is threatened by a hydra of vulnerabilities, most of them of our own making, but none of them beyond the notice of our adversaries. H.R. 1 is the most cogent corrective to these matters which we have yet seen. The calculations around it will most certainly be partisan, but it is the best hope for ending the corrosive practices that subtract citizens from the electorate. ♦

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« Reply #868 on: February 22, 2019, 05:20:58 AM »
So, according to the resident troll, Jimmy Dore has now officially defected to Russia Today. (Well, things can always get more hilarious according to Florifulgurator... (*) )

So (again) history. You shure don't want to hear from lesbian atomic war provocing Rachel Maddow, spanning the fathom from GHWB vs. Q to Saudi Arabia (not Russia, but fossil...). Alas leaving out the potatoe [sic] incident...

fuck, yet another category of journalism, meeting history in a Rachel Maddow Venn diagram.


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P.S.: For full appreciation of the joke, study Carlo Rovelli's Relational Quantum Mechanics - the possibly best resolution of the Einstein-Podolski-Rosen paradox.
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« Reply #869 on: February 22, 2019, 10:23:21 AM »
As everyone can guess Flori has meanwhile gone guerilla and fulgurated his own mainstream media (U.S. eng. sing. of lat. sing. "medium")...

(I will click "like" or whatever for the first correct guess at whose nemesis I'm cheering to and then frop the beer.)
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« Reply #870 on: February 22, 2019, 06:54:53 PM »
Kavanaugh at counterpunch: Imperialism is the new black

"elections don’t count unless you get the result the Serious People want."

“Juan Guaidó is a character that has been created for this circumstance”

" “We’ve got the power, so we’ll do what we want” actions, the Trump administration is wiping the lipstick off the imperial pig "

"When someone is being kidnapped, and your family is the home invasion gang, you do not get to make a statement that criticizes the hostage for being a poor housekeeper."

" the U.S. is the most anti-democratic force in the world. It always intervenes to prevent or destroy democracy—the empowerment of the mass of people—and to enforce the rule of a wealthy elite."

"Imperialism is the enterprise that anyone who will ever be allowed to be elected as President must accept, embrace, and captain ... The U.S. is an imperialist country and the Democratic and Republican parties are fully committed to that. "

" There’s that game, which liberals love so much and played so well with Iraq and Libya and Syria—and Chile—where you take a “nuanced” position on the aggression in progress, and wait a few years to admit the true horror of what actually happened, and then bemoan its unfortunate “excesses” ... "

"Imperialism is a project of capitalism, and therefore of class power."

“They just want the simple narrative that socialism failed.”

"And if AOC or Bernie or John Oliver stand with Trump and McConnell and Rubio on this, it’s not because they all stand for “democracy,” it’s because they are all standing with the same class."

Read the whole thing:

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/02/15/the-siege-of-venezuela-and-the-travails-of-empire/

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« Reply #871 on: February 22, 2019, 09:03:45 PM »
More good journalism: https://bylinetimes.com/2019/02/18/explosive-uk-parliamentary-report-exposes-the-molten-core-of-the-trump-brexit-russia-scandal/

Explosive UK Parliamentary Report Exposes the Molten Core of the Trump, Brexit, Russia Scandal

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The House of Commons’ Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee’s final report on Disinformation and “Fake News” reveals new evidence and calls for new investigations into dark data, dark money and Russian influence in British elections.

The day after Carole Cadwalladr in the Observer revealed Special Counsel Robert Mueller has subpoenaed Brittany Kaiser, director of the now-defunct data company Cambridge Analytica who worked on Nigel Farage’s Leave EU campaign, this landmark parliamentary report provides yet more evidence that the Trump Campaign, the EU referendum and Russian interference are all closely linked.

The report also reveals that the National Crime Agency, currently investigating potential illegal foreign funding of major Leave EU donor Arron Banks, has also been asked to look at potential collusion with Russia over data, following evidence submitted to it by the Information Commissioner’s office.

These revelations follow an exclusive report by the Byline Times last week that multiple investigations by the Metropolitan Police, into up to 14 political figures involved in potential election crimes, are currently stalled.

The report will intensify pressure on Prime Minister Theresa May to launch a full public inquiry into both dark money and dark data in British elections.

Labour MP David Lammy told the Byline Times that “the scale and depth of malicious disinformation and foreign interference this report uncovers demands an urgent response from the Prime Minister on behalf of the British Government”.

“It is now blindingly obvious that we need a criminal investigation – equivalent to the US’ Mueller inquiry – to investigate any possible links between the 2016 Leave campaign, Donald Trump’s campaign team and Russia,” Lammy said.
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The DCMS committee, chaired by conservative MP Damian Collins, has been sitting for two years and has provided the most comprehensive account so far of the impact of Russia’s hybrid warfare on Western democracies and its interaction with the populist movements associated with the Brexit vote in 2016 and the election of Donald Trump six months later.

It’s obviously of some concern to the Kremlin. According to the report published today, nearly two-thirds of the views of the interim report, published online last July, were from foreign IP addresses. (The average for most parliamentary publications is only a fifth.) Over half of these foreign views were from Russia. The July report was more popular in Moscow than in London.

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« Reply #872 on: February 22, 2019, 09:52:09 PM »
The New Yorker does a more interesting and complete job, including a lot of detailed information about Facebook and the [successful] attempt to influence Brexit voters.

Why the U.K. Condemned Facebook for Fuelling Fake News https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/why-the-uk-condemned-facebook-for-fuelling-fake-news

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Facebook was also used to surreptitiously influence the Brexit vote in the U.K. In arcane detail, the commission explains why it believes an obscure Canadian company called Aggregate I.Q. (A.I.Q.) harvested Facebook users’ profiles and linked them to voter files in order to “precisely target” them with pro-Leave messages. According to the report, “The work of [A.I.Q.] highlights the fact that data has been and is still being used extensively by private companies to target people, often in a political context, in order to influence their decisions. It is far more common that people think.” Indeed, in a ten-month period during 2018, an anonymous, “highly misleading,” pro-Brexit Web site called Mainstream Network spent an estimated two hundred and fifty-seven thousand pounds on Facebook ads that reached nearly eleven million users. “Mainstream Network is yet another, more recent example of an online organisation [sic] seeking to influence political debate . . . and there is no good case for [it] to hide behind anonymity”
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If a RICO prosecution seems unlikely, how will governments hold Facebook to account? Facebook is global and the Internet is borderless, but laws are not.
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While the big tech companies have stated publicly that they are open to regulation, in the United States they have deployed armies of lobbyists to block government oversight—or at least to neuter it.
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has unearthed incontrovertible evidence that propagandists intent on undermining social cohesion were largely enabled by the arrogance, irresponsibility, and rapaciousness of the executives of a single company.

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« Reply #873 on: February 22, 2019, 10:39:01 PM »
Oldie but a goodie. Surprising how many names are still familiar. If one is forced to watch mainstream media, it makes for an interesting game to pick out which ones are part of the Mighty Wurlitzer.

http://carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php

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« Reply #874 on: February 23, 2019, 01:38:09 AM »
Sorry I sometimes have to skim posts due to time and so I missed this classic the other day. Worthy of some attention now. ;)


Lurk's extraordinarily rich output hints he is paid for this waste of life time. Dollars or Rubles?


ROTFLMFAO .... now who's projecting?

The ASIF was such a big well known problem V. Putin ordered something be done about it - demanded they assign a case manager asap and so here I am! Pay is good. The work is tedious.

Gosh even when I am extraordinarily nice, respectful and polite they still can't help it with the ad hom abuse. (shrug)   

Then they wonder why it is anyone would say soemthing like this as a retort?

re "extraordinarily rich output" well at least you got one thing right Martin. But maybe even that was only an accident. Or a broken clock moment?  :)
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« Reply #875 on: February 23, 2019, 02:09:41 AM »
and the [successful] attempt to influence Brexit voters.

Please define [successful]

Please show me the objective research by qualified social scientists that determined people in the UK are so DUMB that they made their decision of how to Vote because they saw a STUPID MEME on Facebook or anywhere else. 

Who are you and who is the Nation to JUDGE that Voting for Brexit was the WRONG CHOICE for people to make?

It's like this Susan you do have any clue about what living in the UK is like nor the many reasons the Brexit Vote arose in the first place. If people were not dissatisfied and obviously so it would never have become a Referendum. 

And when was the last time the USA had a national Referendum about a critically important question that affects the entire nation?

Answer: Never - not once in your entire history as a Nation. Your pathetic American Democracy didn't suddenly go to shit in 2016. It's been like shit for Centuries.

Please borrow a few books from the Library about how Democracy really works in every Democratic nation except in America. Especially in those that sprung from British Colonial days.
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« Reply #876 on: February 23, 2019, 02:13:44 AM »
More good journalism: https://bylinetimes.com/2019/02/18/explosive-uk-parliamentary-report-exposes-the-molten-core-of-the-trump-brexit-russia-scandal/

Explosive UK Parliamentary Report Exposes the Molten Core of the Trump, Brexit, Russia Scandal


But but but, where is their UK report on FOX NEWS?

On Media Ownership in the USA?

On the infiltration by the US Intel Deep State Political Hacks and Think Tanks of the American media circus?
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« Reply #877 on: February 23, 2019, 05:35:34 AM »
Washington Post Bad Journalism

No one does it as good as WaPo (except for CNN, MSNBC, NYTs, CBS, Fox News, The Hill, National Enquirer .... )



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« Reply #878 on: February 26, 2019, 12:21:55 PM »
The Jimmy Dore Show
Published on 25 Feb 2019

Second Adpocalypse! (and Censorship etc.)
YouTube Holding Creators Responsible For Comments




OK, well this one might be a tricky issue to handle. Jimmy raises the critical issue of a company being the censor - it is either a Utility or is is not. The proper rules, regs and Laws are in place or they are not. Which of course always falls at the feet of Governments or in the US onto Congress in the first place. I suspect the above is related to this recent news report on RT America. It lifts the carpet on the claims Youtube makes about itself, and the larger issues beyond "censorship" and "advertising" that are less savoury and yet basically ignored - buy Google and Congress and all the rest of the social media techno asshats.


‘Soft child-porn’ or honest political debate? Take a guess which one YouTube failed to censor
Published time: 25 Feb, 2019
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/452364-child-porn-youtube-scandal/


The Real World on Youtube

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« Reply #879 on: February 26, 2019, 12:27:01 PM »
Everyday 1984 comes that little bit closer to us all.

Facebook unblocks RT-linked pages but makes them comply with rules ‘no one else’ has to follow
Published time: 25 Feb, 2019

 Social media giant Facebook has restored several RT-linked pages more than a week after it blocked them without prior notice. The pages were only freed-up after their administrators posted data about their management and funding.

The Facebook pages of InTheNow, Soapbox, Back Then and Waste-Ed – all operated by the Germany-based company Maffick Media, which is 51 percent owned by RT's video agency Ruptly – were made accessible again as of Monday evening.


All the accounts were previously suspended by Facebook, which issued no warning before taking action against the pages, even though their administration had not violated any of the social media giant’s existing regulations.

Maffick CEO Anissa Naouai said what Facebook had done was “blatant censorship.” She also said she believes that the move was prompted by the pages’ popularity and by their critical stance on several US policies, and the US-backed coup attempt in Venezuela in particular.

The blocking of the accounts had been slammed by journalists and popular social media commentators. The head of the world’s largest media union, the International Federation of Journalists (IFJ), denounced it as an “act of censorship opposed by the IFJ.”

Journalist Glenn Greenwald, co-founder of The Intercept, also criticized Facebook's actions as “highly disturbing.” Popular social and political commenter and stand-up comedian Jimmy Dore told RT that the “ultimate goal” of such actions is to “expand the security state’s control over social media.”

https://www.rt.com/news/452403-facebook-rt-linked-pages-unblocked/
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« Reply #880 on: February 26, 2019, 12:40:15 PM »
 Collusion & chill: WaPo unmasks everyone’s favorite streaming service as a stooge for Russia
Published time: 26 Feb, 2019

 The Washington Post has found another Russian secret agent in America’s own backyard, this time reprimanding US-based streaming service Netflix for doing the Kremlin’s bidding by showing a Russian historical drama.

The WaPo has sounded the alarm over perhaps the most unlikely Russian stooge yet, putting Netflix on a par with the usual suspects, like RT and the St. Petersburg 'troll factory', as supposed tools of the Moscow propaganda game.

However, the WaPo’s Luke Johnson has found hidden seeds of the Russian government’s propaganda planted in ‘Trotsky’s plot, calling on Netflix to “be explicit about the source of its content to viewers, rather than passing it off as just the latest television series.”

Johnson blames the series, and Netflix, of “taking contemporary Russia’s anti-revolutionary ideology global” by including scenes of a German agent helping Russian revolutionaries with money (incidentally, a well-known historical fact), and portraying the upheaval as a coup rather than a revolution.

Falling short of suggesting that Netflix should register as a foreign agent, the WaPo advises the media giant to “think carefully whether it wants to be in business…with Russia's propaganda channels.”

https://www.rt.com/news/452413-netflix-trotsky-propaganda-wapo/

Make that a lot closer to 1984 every hour.
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« Reply #881 on: February 26, 2019, 01:35:07 PM »
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« Reply #882 on: February 26, 2019, 11:40:37 PM »
It's such a subtle form of climate risk denial that establishment journalists push (because subconsciously they know that their paycheck depends on pleasing the masters):

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« Reply #883 on: February 27, 2019, 02:59:07 AM »
Neven, the NBC News video of Feinstein with the children I posted to the GND thread is "no longer available." By the look of it this seems to have been deleted by NBC itself.
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« Reply #884 on: February 27, 2019, 05:41:29 AM »
 For a civilization that considers freedom of speech one of its fundamental principles and universal human rights, the West sure does a lot of censorship – and no, farming it out to ‘private companies’ does not change what it is.

It happened again on Tuesday: British activist Tommy Robinson was erased from Facebook and Instagram. The social media behemoth said it has to act “when ideas and opinions cross the line and amount to hate speech that may create an environment of intimidation and exclusion for certain groups in society.”

As online polemicists are fond of saying, “citation needed!” Yet Facebook offers none: no evidence of specific violations, not even a definition of “hate speech,” just an arbitrary standard – and a threat of further bans for people who “support… hate figures.” Whatever that means.

    This is the part that is terrifying.

    Facebook has deemed Tommy Robinson a “hate figure” and says that “praise or support for these figures” is banned.

    So - if I criticize Facebook’s ban of Tommy Robinson, am I “supporting” a hate figure?” pic.twitter.com/2S1sB8faaC
    — Will Chamberlain 🇺🇸 (@willchamberlain) February 26, 2019



How did journalists – those paladins of free speech, the fabled Fourth Estate, the valiant protectors of values that would die in darkness without their intrepid efforts – greet this news? Did they object to a British citizen being muzzled and wax about the dangers to digital democracy? Oh no, they rejoiced: Finally, what took so long?!

The same process repeated itself later in the day, when Twitter banned Jacob Wohl. The self-described supporter of US President Donald Trump had reportedly boasted about setting up fake accounts to influence the 2020 election. That is regarded as the sin-above-all-sins by social media executives, terrified of Congress blaming them for Hillary Clinton losing the White House to Trump in 2016, even though 99 percent of US media considered it rightfully hers.

Here’s the thing, though: Twitter still hasn’t banned Jonathon Morgan, CEO of New Knowledge, a company that was proven to have set up thousands of fake accounts to swing the Senate race in Alabama to the Democrats, and later paid by the Senate to blame Russia for its tactics.

    So Twitter can suspend Jacob Wohl for allegedly "creating multiple accounts" but didn't ban Dem cyber disinformation "protection" firm CEO @jonathonmorgan that created hundreds of Russian bot accounts to manipulate a federal election under fraudulent pretenses.

    So suprising 🙄 pic.twitter.com/t5CR0olZ2Q
    — Mike Tokes (@MikeTokes) February 26, 2019

Let’s also remember the suspension of several Facebook pages belonging to Maffick Media, an outfit that partners with Ruptly, a RT subsidiary. After the “Twitter police” at the German Marshall Fund and CNN raised a fuss about these pages having “Kremlin ties,” Facebook blocked them until they agreed to put up a notice about being “funded by Russia.”So they did, even though there is no such rule that would be universally applied.

Surely it is entirely a coincidence that a CNN reporter went around actively badgering social media outlets to ban Alex Jones, way back in August 2018, and would not stop until they all did?

    YouTube Terminates Don Shipley's YouTube Channel That Exposed Nathan Phillips' Stolen Valor - One Angry Gamer https://t.co/H7CyE0uIsO
    — Robert J. O'Neill (@mchooyah) February 26, 2019

But wait, there is more!

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/452490-venezuela-guaido-us-false-flag/

I don't believe a word of it. How could you when it's from RT the biggest Russian Bot on the planet? :)
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« Reply #885 on: February 27, 2019, 05:44:46 AM »
 For a civilization that considers freedom of speech one of its fundamental principles and universal human rights, the West sure does a lot of censorship – and no, farming it out to ‘private companies’ does not change what it is.

It happened again on Tuesday: British activist Tommy Robinson was erased from Facebook and Instagram. The social media behemoth said it has to act “when ideas and opinions cross the line and amount to hate speech that may create an environment of intimidation and exclusion for certain groups in society.”

As online polemicists are fond of saying, “citation needed!” Yet Facebook offers none: no evidence of specific violations, not even a definition of “hate speech,” just an arbitrary standard – and a threat of further bans for people who “support… hate figures.” Whatever that means.

    This is the part that is terrifying.

    Facebook has deemed Tommy Robinson a “hate figure” and says that “praise or support for these figures” is banned.

    So - if I criticize Facebook’s ban of Tommy Robinson, am I “supporting” a hate figure?” pic.twitter.com/2S1sB8faaC
    — Will Chamberlain 🇺🇸 (@willchamberlain) February 26, 2019



How did journalists – those paladins of free speech, the fabled Fourth Estate, the valiant protectors of values that would die in darkness without their intrepid efforts – greet this news? Did they object to a British citizen being muzzled and wax about the dangers to digital democracy? Oh no, they rejoiced: Finally, what took so long?!

The same process repeated itself later in the day, when Twitter banned Jacob Wohl. The self-described supporter of US President Donald Trump had reportedly boasted about setting up fake accounts to influence the 2020 election. That is regarded as the sin-above-all-sins by social media executives, terrified of Congress blaming them for Hillary Clinton losing the White House to Trump in 2016, even though 99 percent of US media considered it rightfully hers.

Here’s the thing, though: Twitter still hasn’t banned Jonathon Morgan, CEO of New Knowledge, a company that was proven to have set up thousands of fake accounts to swing the Senate race in Alabama to the Democrats, and later paid by the Senate to blame Russia for its tactics.

    So Twitter can suspend Jacob Wohl for allegedly "creating multiple accounts" but didn't ban Dem cyber disinformation "protection" firm CEO @jonathonmorgan that created hundreds of Russian bot accounts to manipulate a federal election under fraudulent pretenses.

    So suprising 🙄 pic.twitter.com/t5CR0olZ2Q
    — Mike Tokes (@MikeTokes) February 26, 2019

Let’s also remember the suspension of several Facebook pages belonging to Maffick Media, an outfit that partners with Ruptly, a RT subsidiary. After the “Twitter police” at the German Marshall Fund and CNN raised a fuss about these pages having “Kremlin ties,” Facebook blocked them until they agreed to put up a notice about being “funded by Russia.”So they did, even though there is no such rule that would be universally applied.

Surely it is entirely a coincidence that a CNN reporter went around actively badgering social media outlets to ban Alex Jones, way back in August 2018, and would not stop until they all did?

    YouTube Terminates Don Shipley's YouTube Channel That Exposed Nathan Phillips' Stolen Valor - One Angry Gamer https://t.co/H7CyE0uIsO
    — Robert J. O'Neill (@mchooyah) February 26, 2019

But wait, there is more!

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/452490-venezuela-guaido-us-false-flag/

I don't believe a word of it. How could you when it's from RT the biggest Russian Bot on the planet? :)
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« Reply #886 on: February 28, 2019, 01:59:14 PM »
Jimmy Dore sucks?

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OMG! Jimmy you're killin' it with all these great guests! It also shows that people respect you and your crew, and the things that this channel is doing. Other 'progressive' hosts gonna hate/be jealous and attack your positions but I like how you stay above all these and just do your thing!

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This is, bar none, the tightest, most cogent, interview of my long time sage economist, Michael Hudson, I have ever witnessed. And I've been reading and watching Hudson for, well, fifteen years, maybe? Jimmy Dore, I thought I knew your relaxed, laid back style, sprinkled with indignation, which I enjoy. This is amazing, Brother!



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Re: The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
« Reply #887 on: March 01, 2019, 11:59:40 PM »
Frost at columbia journalism review on why she prefers FT to NYT:

"And when it comes to journalism, committed capitalists are always better materialists than the liberals. And that’s why I read FT. Sure, they’re rooting for the other team, but at least they know the game."

https://www.cjr.org/special_report/why-the-left-cant-stand-the-new-york-times.php/

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« Reply #888 on: March 02, 2019, 07:59:13 AM »
Scheer has a really nice interview with Morrison on Scheer Intelligence at truthdig: the glory days of journalism were quite seedy too, but they have hope in these internet days. They do bemoan the loss of smalltown coverage, as do i.

This is a wonderful slice of history of the press in the USA from two people who were there for a lot of it. I include a couple of excerpts for the flavour,  but anyone with an interest really ought read and listen to the whole thing.

"The paradox,” Morrison says, “is that [journalists] were always in the hands of rich people, because those were the people who owned the printing presses. Some of them were only comparatively rich, some of them were truly rich, like the Jeff Bezoses of the world."

"Only now are we seeing a more demotic turn—as newspapers are disappearing, what’s rushing in to fill the void is those voices we didn’t hear from before"

"That crowd that is allowed to take part now, thanks to the internet, can make reporting more honest, more diverse, and more reflective of what’s actually going on."

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-uncomfortable-truth-about-journalisms-glory-days/

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« Reply #889 on: March 04, 2019, 03:22:54 AM »
‘Trotsky’ unmistakably aligns with the Kremlin worldview. The show is taking contemporary Russia’s anti-revolutionary ideology global. RT is not CNN. The 2016 Facebook memes from the Internet Research Agency were not ordinary social media content. ‘Trotsky’ is not merely another Netflix show. Audiences should know what they’re watching. And Netflix should think carefully about whether it wants to be in business, however indirectly, with Russia’s propaganda channels,” the Washington Post in an article titled 'You might be binge-watching Russian propaganda on Netflix'.

WaPo seriously went Flat-earther over this one. Could they possibly be in favour of the USSRs pro-revolutionary ideology now? :)

I have finished binge watching that series. It's excellent albeit a little hard to follow at times as it darts back and forth in time, and if like me you don't already know the historical details of the events it;s portraying. Even so it is an excellent series that really gets into peoples 'psychology'.

My conclusions? It's fairly clear if the 'portrayals' are reasonably accurate that the guy who murdered Trotsky, a chap supposedly writing a book about him, and the Tsar, the Generals, Lenin, Stalin and Trotsky plus many many others were very disturbed pathological nutcases who no one should have trusted. 

Whoever wrote that WaPo article is certainly up there with them. Off with the faeries bat shit crazy (if they believed what they wrote.)
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« Reply #890 on: March 04, 2019, 03:40:31 AM »
Proof positive that even highly intelligent chess masters can become bat shit crazy to.

Proof positive that real estate moguls, Reality TV stars, and ex-chess masters need to realise their limitations and stay the hell away from Twitter, Journalism and Politics.

Proof positive that someone can be totally wrong and pretty well right all at the same time in one single opinionated article.

Proof positive that so called 'intelligent' and 'successful' people are just like everyone else when it comes to objectivity and reason and historical facts - next to useless. 

Proof positive that extreme Right Wing Nutjobs, Neocons and Neoliberals and right 'tools' come in all kinds of guises and backgrounds.

Proof positive how easily extreme biases, cognitive dissonance, the Dunning-Kruger effect, and illogical Conspiratorial thinking manifests in all strata of society and that above average 'intelligence' has nothing to do with it. 

Two sides of the globe, one painful lesson: Trump is debasing America
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https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-kasparov-korea-20190228-story.html
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Assange and WikiLeaks have been lockstep collaborators with Russian intelligence services for years and cannot be considered to act independently from Putin’s wishes.

Bat shit crazy!

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This is the same bank that was fined for laundering billions in Russian cash and was described by expert reporter Luke Harding as facilitating a “shuffle of money” between its business with Russians and its business with Trump.

Delusional writ large!

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The free world still requires U.S. leadership and strength against its many enemies.

Total Bollocks!
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« Reply #891 on: March 04, 2019, 09:06:07 AM »
Jimmy good, the rest?



The "May have ...."  collection

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The panel said in a statement that it had found “reasonable grounds to believe that Israeli snipers shot at journalists, health workers, children and persons with disabilities, knowing they were clearly recognisable as such”.

Thirty-five of those killed were children, three were clearly identifiable paramedics and two were clearly marked journalists, the report said.

Israel dismissed the report as “hostile, mendacious and slanted”.

"The Human Rights Council's Theatre of the Absurd has once again produced a report that is hostile, mendacious and biased against Israel,"
Israel Katz said.

"No-one can deny Israel the right to self-defence and the obligation to protect its citizens and its borders against violent attacks."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/28/gaza-israel-un-inquiry-killings-protest-war-crimes-army

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/un-report-on-gaza-says-israeli-forces-may-have-committed-war-crimes/2019/02/28/f7236282-3b4d-11e9-a06c-3ec8ed509d15_story.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-47399541

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/28/middleeast/israel-gaza-un-intl/

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/28/world/middleeast/israel-crimes-against-humanity-gaza-un.html

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-01/israel-security-forces-may-have-committed-war-crimes-gaza-un/10859854
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« Reply #892 on: March 04, 2019, 10:13:29 AM »
Jakes Flores comment on the video above.

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13:13 yeah I agree and you
know the narratives that are put
in place and implemented and spread
through like cable news and things like
that are a problem and they do reinforce
a lot of people's already held beliefs
that are wrong.

But you know, if you travel around
and you talk to people awake.
Half people in America don't vote.

A lot of that's voter
disenfranchisement but a lot of it is
just people know better than this.

There's actually you know a small
fraction of the American population

that really buys into this stuff and
believes it's true.

Most people just know it's bullshit
but they also know that they
probably don't have enough power to
fight against it. Which i think is
probably why they look at shows like
yours and all these other podcasts
and things like that.

And you know you realize that
you have a pretty dedicated fan
base because most people now
via technology are able to go:

 
"Yeah! I knew this Israel thing was
bullshit, right. But I didn't have
anyone to talk about it with."
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« Reply #893 on: March 05, 2019, 06:09:35 PM »
The Making of the Fox News White House
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/03/11/the-making-of-the-fox-news-white-house

Fox News has always been partisan. But has it become propaganda?

In January, during the longest government shutdown in America’s history, President Donald Trump rode in a motorcade through Hidalgo County, Texas, eventually stopping on a grassy bluff overlooking the Rio Grande. The White House wanted to dramatize what Trump was portraying as a national emergency: the need to build a wall along the Mexican border. The presence of armored vehicles, bales of confiscated marijuana, and federal agents in flak jackets underscored the message.

But the photo op dramatized something else about the Administration. After members of the press pool got out of vans and headed over to where the President was about to speak, they noticed that Sean Hannity, the Fox News host, was already on location. Unlike them, he hadn’t been confined by the Secret Service, and was mingling with Administration officials, at one point hugging Kirstjen Nielsen, the Secretary of Homeland Security. The pool report noted that Hannity was seen “huddling” with the White House communications director, Bill Shine. After the photo op, Hannity had an exclusive on-air interview with Trump. Politico later reported that it was Hannity’s seventh interview with the President, and Fox’s forty-second. Since then, Trump has given Fox two more. He has granted only ten to the three other main television networks combined, and none to CNN, which he denounces as “fake news.”

Hannity was treated in Texas like a member of the Administration because he virtually is one. The same can be said of Fox’s chairman, Rupert Murdoch. Fox has long been a bane of liberals, but in the past two years many people who watch the network closely, including some Fox alumni, say that it has evolved into something that hasn’t existed before in the United States. Nicole Hemmer, an assistant professor of Presidential studies at the University of Virginia’s Miller Center and the author of “Messengers of the Right,” a history of the conservative media’s impact on American politics, says of Fox, “It’s the closest we’ve come to having state TV.” ...

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Fox News’s Propaganda Isn’t Just Unethical — Research Shows It’s Enormously Influential
https://www.vox.com/2019/3/4/18249847/fox-news-effect-swing-elections

Fox’s propaganda broadcasting matters. It’s a somewhat underexplored topic in political science research, but the information that’s available suggests that right-wing propaganda broadcasting — led by Fox but also including Sinclair Broadcast Group — has a decisive influence on American politics.

A study by Emory University political scientist Gregory Martin and Stanford economist Ali Yurukoglu estimates that watching Fox News translates into a significantly greater willingness to vote for Republican candidates. ... they find that if Fox News hadn’t existed, the Republican presidential candidate’s share of the two-party vote would have been 3.59 points lower in 2004 and 6.34 points lower in 2008. Without Fox, in other words, the GOP’s only popular vote win since the 1980s would have been reversed and the 2008 election would have been an extinction-level landslide.
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« Reply #894 on: March 06, 2019, 11:22:58 AM »
Investigative journalism group Bellingcat has been awarded €500,000 of funding which it will use to set up an office and training centre in The Hague.

The publisher, which revealed the identity of the Salisbury poisoning suspects last year, was awarded the cash prize by the Dutch postcode lottery at the 2019 Goed Geld Gala yesterday.

https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/bellingcat-to-establish-new-office-in-the-hague-after-e500000-funding-win-through-dutch-postcode-lottery/
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« Reply #895 on: March 06, 2019, 11:57:26 AM »
2016 produced doco by Al Jazeera about the Israel govt influence in the UK
https://www.aljazeera.com/investigations/thelobby/

I came across an interesting connection @7:40 in part two regarding the Labour MP Joan Ryan. She is one of the 8 UK MPs who have very recently resigned/split from Labour to start their own "Independent Group" along with some Conservatives.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47300832   
https://www.bbc.com/news/topics/ckdkngd45nlt/labour-and-conservative-resignations

Ilhan Omar (@IlhanMN) is still under fire from within her own ranks, the media and in social media
https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,2273.msg191193.html#msg191193

While AOC is continually being pilloried in some sections over the GND etc etc
quick grab from RCP homepage

The Anti-Semitism of AOC, Omar, and Tlaib
David Catron, The American Spectator
 Dems' Resolution Condemning Anti-Semitism Is a Joke
David Harsanyi, The Federalist
Ilhan Omar Has a Point
Jordan Weissmann, Slate

Green New Deal Is Responsible. Climate Inaction Is Not
Zorn & Beachy, The Guardian
Why Green New Deal Is Unworkable & Unaffordable
Sen. John Barrasso, USA Today
Trump Signals a Great Debate on Socialism
New York Sun
Critics Must Do More Than Mock Green New Deal
USA Today
The Good News About a Green New Deal
John Cassidy, New Yorker
Environmental Radicalism Gets Murderous
Noah Rothman, Commentary


Can you imagine what it might be like in October 2020?
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« Reply #896 on: March 06, 2019, 12:56:27 PM »
Investigative journalism group Bellingcat has been awarded €500,000 of funding which it will use to set up an office and training centre in The Hague.

The publisher, which revealed the identity of the Salisbury poisoning suspects last year, was awarded the cash prize by the Dutch postcode lottery at the 2019 Goed Geld Gala yesterday.

https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/bellingcat-to-establish-new-office-in-the-hague-after-e500000-funding-win-through-dutch-postcode-lottery/

We already knew it pays well to push establishment narratives, thanks. Eliot Higgins has got what he wanted.
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« Reply #897 on: March 09, 2019, 03:09:29 PM »
I'm not letting you post that Bellingcat stuff, Rob. Bellingcat started with a conclusion and then worked backwards, an example of bad journalism. The amount of victims and their position makes no sense at all if it was just chlorine, never mind the coincidence that the gas canister landed like it did.
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« Reply #898 on: March 10, 2019, 09:05:12 PM »
Greenwald rips US media for warmongering lies:

"What we have here is classic Fake News – spread on Twitter, by U.S. officials and U.S. media stars – with the clear and malicious intent to start a war. But no western proponents of social media censorship will call for their accounts to be cancelled nor call for their posts to be deleted. That’s because “Fake News” and the war against it is strictly a means of combating propaganda by U.S. adversaries; the U.S. and its allies maintain extensive programs to spread Fake News online and none of those anti-Fake News crusaders call for those to be shut down."

"That’s not because U.S. media stars are ordered to do this. They don’t need to be ordered. They know propaganda is their job. More to the point, they are über-patriotic jingoists who revere U.S. officials "

https://theintercept.com/2019/03/10/nyts-expose-on-the-lies-about-burning-humanitarian-trucks-in-venezuela-shows-how-us-govt-and-media-spread-fake-news/

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« Reply #899 on: March 11, 2019, 03:06:35 AM »
Greenwald rips US media for warmongering lies:

"What we have here is classic Fake News – spread on Twitter, by U.S. officials and U.S. media stars – with the clear and malicious intent to start a war. But no western proponents of social media censorship will call for their accounts to be cancelled nor call for their posts to be deleted. That’s because “Fake News” and the war against it is strictly a means of combating propaganda by U.S. adversaries; the U.S. and its allies maintain extensive programs to spread Fake News online and none of those anti-Fake News crusaders call for those to be shut down."

"That’s not because U.S. media stars are ordered to do this. They don’t need to be ordered. They know propaganda is their job. More to the point, they are über-patriotic jingoists who revere U.S. officials "

https://theintercept.com/2019/03/10/nyts-expose-on-the-lies-about-burning-humanitarian-trucks-in-venezuela-shows-how-us-govt-and-media-spread-fake-news/

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"While the NYT’s article and video are perfectly good and necessary journalism, the credit they are implicitly claiming for themselves for exposing this lie is totally undeserved. That’s because independent journalists – the kind who question rather than mindlessly repeat government claims and are therefore mocked and marginalized and kept off mainstream television – used exactly this same evidence on the day of the incident to debunk the lies being told by Rubio, Pompeo, Bolton and CNN."

"You assist an unjust administration most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. [...] A good person will resist an evil system with his whole soul. Disobedience of the laws of an evil state is therefore a duty."
Mahatma Gandhi - Non-Violent Resistance