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Re: Mueller Investigation & Cohen Investigation
« Reply #900 on: October 17, 2018, 09:25:52 PM »
God, when will this end.

People who have patience do better in life (even after correcting for socioeconomic circumstances):

Title: "We learned the wrong lesson about self-control from the famous marshmallow test"

https://qz.com/1295538/the-marshmallow-test-taught-the-world-the-wrong-lesson-about-delayed-gratification/

Extract: "A seminal 1990 study, conducted by Stanford psychologist Walter Mischel and his colleagues, described what happened when preschoolers were brought face-to-face with delectable marshmallows or another comparable treat. The children were offered a deal: The experimenter was going to leave the room. If they could hold off gobbling down one marshmallow until the experimenter returned, they would get two marshmallows. Some kids resisted the temptation; others couldn’t wait that long."

See also:

Tyler W. Watts et al. (2018), "Revisiting the Marshmallow Test: A Conceptual Replication Investigating Links Between Early Delay of Gratification and Later Outcomes", Psychological Science, https://doi.org/10.1177/0956797618761661

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0956797618761661

Abstract: "We replicated and extended Shoda, Mischel, and Peake’s (1990) famous marshmallow study, which showed strong bivariate correlations between a child’s ability to delay gratification just before entering school and both adolescent achievement and socioemotional behaviors. Concentrating on children whose mothers had not completed college, we found that an additional minute waited at age 4 predicted a gain of approximately one tenth of a standard deviation in achievement at age 15. But this bivariate correlation was only half the size of those reported in the original studies and was reduced by two thirds in the presence of controls for family background, early cognitive ability, and the home environment. Most of the variation in adolescent achievement came from being able to wait at least 20 s. Associations between delay time and measures of behavioral outcomes at age 15 were much smaller and rarely statistically significant."
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« Reply #901 on: October 18, 2018, 12:26:53 AM »
The midterms are likely a referendum on how America feels about Trump:

Title: "Leaked RNC Poll Reveals the Midterms Are All About Trump"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-17/leaked-rnc-poll-reveals-the-midterms-are-all-about-trump

Extract: "President Donald Trump told the Associated Press on Tuesday that he won’t be to blame if the GOP loses big on Nov. 6, but a private Republican Party survey leaked to Bloomberg Businessweek concludes that he will. The internal report, conducted last month for the Republican National Committee by the polling firm Public Opinion Strategies, states explicitly that “research indicates the determining factor in this election is how voters feel about President Trump.”"
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« Reply #902 on: October 18, 2018, 03:49:06 PM »
I think that unless Stone cuts a plea deal before the midterms, he could soon be facing an indictment and potentially serious prison time:

Title: "Mueller's team asking Manafort about Roger Stone: report"

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/411960-muellers-team-asking-manafort-about-roger-stone-report

Extract: "Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has been asking former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort about his former business partner Roger Stone, according to ABC News.

Mueller in recent months has interviewed multiple people linked to Stone, a former Trump campaign adviser. Some of those people have also testified before the grand jury."
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« Reply #903 on: October 19, 2018, 12:24:14 AM »
It looks like Mueller is getting ready to kick butt after the midterms:

Title: "Mueller's quiet period has not been very quiet"

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/17/politics/muellers-quiet-period-has-not-been-very-quiet/index.html

Extract: "Ever since reaching a deal with special counsel Robert Mueller, Paul Manafort has kept the Russia prosecutors busy.

The former Trump campaign chairman and his lawyers have visited Mueller's office in Washington at least nine times in the last four weeks, a strong indication that the special counsel is moving at a steady clip.

September and October at first glance appear to be quiet periods for the investigation, under the Justice Department's guidelines to avoid public political acts before the midterm elections. But the quiet period has seen a persistent murmur of activity, based on near-daily sightings of Mueller's prosecutors and sources involved in the investigation."
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« Reply #904 on: October 19, 2018, 09:15:11 AM »
Ragarding khashoggi :

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/18/world/middleeast/jamal-khashoggi-mohammed-bin-salman-turkey-saudi-arabia.html

It's pretty clear that Maher Abdulaziz (one of the suspects in the Khashoggi killing) is a personal guard of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.
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« Reply #905 on: October 19, 2018, 06:29:43 PM »
I get the impression that many posters on this forum are not aware that Khashoggi was originally blackballed by the Saudi royal family for writing criticisms of Donald Trump in late 2016; and now Team Trump are trying to sling mud on Khashoggi's reputation.  I think that Mueller should investigate this case of obstruction of justice, as there is substantial evidence that Saudi Arabia was trying to buy influence with the Trump Campaign before the 2016 election:

Title: "Jamal Khashoggi was barred from writing in Saudi Arabia after he criticized Trump, then left his native country"

https://www.businessinsider.com/why-jamal-khashoggi-left-saudi-arabia-writing-ban-2018-10

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•   "Jamal Khashoggi was barred from writing and making public appearances by the Saudi royal family after he criticized President Donald Trump in late 2016.
•   Khashoggi went into self-imposed exile not long after the ban so he could continue reporting.
•   Khashoggi became a US resident and wrote for The Washington Post, continuing to criticize the kingdom's policies from afar.
•   Khashoggi went missing after entering the Saudi consulate in Istanbul earlier this month and is feared dead.
•   Trump has defended the Saudi royal family as it faces allegations of orchestrating Khashoggi's death."
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Re: Mueller Investigation & Cohen Investigation
« Reply #906 on: October 19, 2018, 10:38:03 PM »
Instead of making someone's alleged position on Trump decide what we think of someone (as long as the iron is still hot), how about listening to an expert:



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He's close to my age. His name has been familiar to me since my early youthful days, back in Lebanon. And in our progressive, left-wing, Marxist circles, he was always this symbol of reactionary advocacy on behalf of the Saudi regime and militant Salafi Islam. That's what he stood for.

The picture that is being painted in mainstream Western media is totally unrecognizable for anybody  who bothers to read Arabic.

This professor must be some sort of a Kremlinbot. Come on, Ahmed, shut up already! Don't you know that the end always justifies the means?
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« Reply #907 on: October 19, 2018, 11:24:14 PM »
Instead of making someone's alleged position on Trump decide what we think of someone (as long as the iron is still hot), how about listening to an expert:
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Your linked professor totally failed to mention that Khashoggi was blowing the whistle on the August 3, 2016 meeting that involved Donald Trump Jr., George Nader, an emissary for the princes of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, Joel Zamel, an Israeli specialist in social media manipulation, and Erik Prince.  Mueller is likely investigating whether MBS was trying to influence the Trump Campaign, and it is possible that Khashoggi was murdered to try to discourage other reporters from investigation this matter:

Title: "Why Trump bears responsibility for the murder of Jamal Khashoggi"

https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/why-trump-bears-responsibility-for-the-murder-of-jamal-khashoggi/

Extract: "That this administration is culpable, however, we already know.

It goes back to a 2016 meeting at Trump Tower—not the meeting everyone has talked about for the last two years in relation to Russian election interference, however. The New York Times reported on May 19, 2018, that there was a second highly consequential meeting on August 3, 2016, three months before the 2016 election. That gathering involved Donald Trump Jr. meeting with George Nader, an emissary for the princes of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, Joel Zamel, an Israeli specialist in social media manipulation, and Erik Prince, a Republican donor who had founded the Blackwater security firm.

After that August meeting, there were frequent and regular meetings between Nader on behalf of the Arab princes and Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law, and (now convicted felon) Michael Flynn on behalf of Trump. The Arab princes, through Nader, were pushing for a plan to destabilize Iran, the enemy of the Saudis. Since Nader is now cooperating with Special Counsel Robert Mueller, it is assumed Trump collusion with the Saudis to influence an American election is also a focus of the Mueller probe.

The Saudi Crown Prince, Mohammed bin Salman, backed Trump in part because of his unhappiness with then President Barack Obama’s nuclear agreement with Iran and statements of support for the Arab Spring uprisings all over the Middle East. The prince wanted a U.S. president who would line up with him 100 percent against Iran."
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« Reply #908 on: October 19, 2018, 11:59:27 PM »
Mueller is running rings about 'Team Trump-Russia' by indicting Elena Khusyaynova for meddling in the coming midterm elections.  Remember that Ken Starr took seven years to only uncover one lie about sex in a civil disposition:

Title: "US charges Russian woman with interfering in 2018 midterms"

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/19/russian-woman-charged-us-election-interference

Extract: "Elena Khusyaynova is accused of playing a senior role in an online campaign that worked to promote Donald Trump’s agenda, stoke conflict among Americans and discredit the Trump-Russia investigation by Robert Mueller, the special counsel."
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« Reply #909 on: October 20, 2018, 05:30:40 AM »
Nellie Ohr uses spousal privilege, refuses to discuss conversations between herself and Bruce Ohr.

"Glenn Simpson, co-founder of Fusion GPS, hired former British spy Christopher Steele to help compile the memos about Trump’s ties to Russia.

Republicans have alleged that Nellie Ohr could have passed the dossier on to her husband, then a top official with the Department of Justice, when she worked a contractor for Fusion GPS during the 2016 presidential campaign. "

"Simpson pleaded the Fifth before the Judiciary and Oversight committees"

"Simpson has cooperated with three other congressional committees, but he would not with this one because he viewed this GOP-led investigation as a smear campaign against the FBI and Justice Department, and particularly against Mueller’s investigation."

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/412303-nellie-ohr-interviews-with-two-gop-panels-on-ties-to-steele-dossier

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« Reply #910 on: October 20, 2018, 08:28:37 AM »
It looks like Mueller is getting closer to an indictment for collusion:

Title: "Mueller Probes WikiLeaks’ Contacts With Conservative Activists"

https://www.wsj.com/articles/mueller-probes-wikileaks-contacts-with-conservative-activists-1539978208

Extract: " Special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation is scrutinizing how a collection of activists and pundits intersected with WikiLeaks, the website that U.S. officials say was the primary conduit for publishing materials stolen by Russia, according to people familiar with the matter.

Mr. Mueller’s team has recently questioned witnesses about the activities of longtime Trump confidante Roger Stone, including his contacts with WikiLeaks, and has obtained telephone records, according to the people familiar with the matter.

Investigators also have evidence that the late GOP activist Peter W. Smith may have had advance knowledge of details about the release of emails from a top Hillary Clinton campaign official by WikiLeaks, one person familiar with the matter said. They have questioned Mr. Smith’s associates, the person said."
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« Reply #911 on: October 20, 2018, 08:16:31 PM »
You can't make this stuff up.  Is first Jared Kushner (& later D. Trump) at risk of being exposed by Mueller of working to create a "Grand Bargain" between The Trump Admin, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Israel, and the U.A.E.?

Title: "Israeli, Saudi, and Emirati Officials Privately Pushed for Trump to Strike a “Grand Bargain” with Putin"

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/israeli-saudi-and-emirati-officials-privately-pushed-for-trump-to-strike-a-grand-bargain-with-putin

Extract: "During a private meeting shortly before the November, 2016, election, Mohammed bin Zayed, the crown prince of Abu Dhabi, floated to a longtime American interlocutor what sounded, at the time, like an unlikely grand bargain. The Emirati leader told the American that Vladimir Putin, the Russian President, might be interested in resolving the conflict in Syria in exchange for the lifting of sanctions imposed in response to Russia’s actions in Ukraine.

Current and former U.S. officials said that bin Zayed, known as M.B.Z., was not the only leader in the region who favored rapprochement between the former Cold War adversaries. While America’s closest allies in Europe viewed with a sense of dread Trump’s interest in partnering with Putin, three countries that enjoyed unparallelled influence with the incoming Administration—Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the U.A.E.—privately embraced the goal. Officials from the three countries have repeatedly encouraged their American counterparts to consider ending the Ukraine-related sanctions in return for Putin’s help in removing Iranian forces from Syria.

The special counsel, Robert Mueller, and his F.B.I. team, tasked with probing Russia’s interference in the 2016 election, have been investigating whether the U.A.E. facilitated contacts between Trump’s team and Russian officials and sought to influence U.S. politics. Nine days before Trump’s Inauguration, Erik Prince, the founder of Blackwater and a confidant of Steve Bannon, met at M.B.Z.’s resort in the Seychelles with Kirill Dmitriev, the head of Russia’s sovereign wealth fund, whom the Emiratis used as a go-between with Putin. (An April, 2017, Washington Post story that I co-wrote revealed the Indian Ocean encounter and stated that “the UAE agreed to broker the meeting in part to explore whether Russia could be persuaded to curtail its relationship with Iran, including in Syria, a Trump administration objective that would be likely to require major concessions to Moscow on U.S. sanctions.”)"
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« Reply #912 on: October 20, 2018, 10:04:58 PM »
https://www.greanvillepost.com/2018/08/16/are-the-mainstream-u-s-newsmedia-evil/
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William Binney, the U.S. National Security Agency’s former technical director for global analysis, has, for the past year, been globe-trotting to investigate the actual evidence regarding the official Russiagate investigations, and he finds that the Special Counsel, Robert Mueller, who is prosecuting Russia’s Government, can only accuse Russian officials, not convict any of them on at least the important charges, because conclusive evidence exists and has already been made public online, making clear that the important accusations against those officials are false. However, Binney can’t get any of the U.S. major ‘news’media’s interest in this fact, nor even into openly discussing it with them. Apparently, they don’t want to know. Binney is knocking on their doors, and they refuse to answer.

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« Reply #913 on: October 21, 2018, 05:41:59 AM »
https://www.greanvillepost.com/2018/08/16/are-the-mainstream-u-s-newsmedia-evil/
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William Binney, the U.S. National Security Agency’s former technical director for global analysis, has, for the past year, been globe-trotting to investigate the actual evidence regarding the official Russiagate investigations, and he finds that the Special Counsel, Robert Mueller, who is prosecuting Russia’s Government, can only accuse Russian officials, not convict any of them on at least the important charges, because conclusive evidence exists and has already been made public online, making clear that the important accusations against those officials are false. However, Binney can’t get any of the U.S. major ‘news’media’s interest in this fact, nor even into openly discussing it with them. Apparently, they don’t want to know. Binney is knocking on their doors, and they refuse to answer.

Man, these myths are hard to kill.
Binney "can’t get any of the U.S. major ‘news’media’s interest in this fact" because it's BS.

We talked about this before.
Here is one post by sidd regarding Binney and his opinions about the DNC hack :

https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1974.msg165169.html#msg165169

G-2/forensicator/"Adam Carter" exposed thru sloppy tradecraft: DNC hack timestamp analysis challenged: Binney no longer believes G-2/forensicator evidence:

"After re-examining the data in Guccifer 2.0 files thoroughly with the author of this article, Binney changed his mind. He said there was “no evidence to prove where the download/copy was done”."

https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252445769/Briton-ran-pro-Kremlin-disinformation-campaign-that-helped-Trump-deny-Russian-links

From which we extract :

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Some former intelligence officials, from a group called Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), backed up the claim. A group, including William Binney, a former technical director at the US National Security Agency (NSA), and former CIA officer Ray McGovern, were persuaded, without checking the file data, to say that the hacking was the work of insiders.

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According to former NSA technical manager Tom Drake, “Ray’s determination to publish claims he wanted to believe without checking facts and discarding evidence he didn’t want to hear exactly reproduced the Iraq war intelligence failures which the VIPS group was formed to oppose”. He and other VIPS members refused to sign McGovern’s report.

So Binney's claims are unsubstantiated, unsupported by other VIPS members, and he doesn't even believe in them himself any more.

Meanwhile Mueller's team revealed in excruciating details exactly how the DNC and the DCCC was hacked by Russian Intelligence :

https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download

Can we please put Binney's theory to rest now ?
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« Reply #914 on: October 23, 2018, 12:36:58 AM »
FBI discloses use of multiple paid confidential informants in Carter Page investigation:

"DOJ withheld specific information about payments to confidential human sources."

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/5013785/Show-Temp.pdf

https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/20/fbi-informants-carter-page/

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« Reply #915 on: October 24, 2018, 06:15:21 AM »
Multiple intelligence agency contacts to Papadoupolos, Papa claims he denied collusion to informant Halper, denial is not mentioned in FBI FISA warrant applications:

 “I think I told him something along the lines of, ‘I have no idea what the hell you are talking about. What you are talking about is treason. And I have nothing to do with that, so stop bothering me about it,’ ” Papadopoulos recalled.

"Sources who saw the FISA warrant and its three renewals tell me there is no mention of Papadopoulos’s denial, an omission of exculpatory evidence that GOP critics in Congress are likely to cite as having misled the court."

"The former campaign aide is set to testify behind closed doors Thursday before two House panels."

" ... the FBI possessed one or more transcripts that called into question the Trump campaign’s — and specifically Papadopoulos’s — alleged complicity with Russia."

"Other contacts were initiated by Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) officials, an Australian intelligence agent, an Australian diplomat, an Israeli diplomat and British diplomats, Papadopoulos told me. At least one contact sought to offer him sex in return for information, he alleged."

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/412836-a-convenient-omission-trump-campaign-adviser-denied-collusion-to-fbi-source

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« Reply #916 on: October 24, 2018, 06:16:14 AM »
Rosenstein House interview delayed, they probably want to hear Papa first:

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/412851-house-republicans-postpone-rosenstein-interview

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« Reply #917 on: October 25, 2018, 11:20:47 PM »
Papa claims entrapment:

"What I'm going to really detail are the names of the individuals who I believe targeted me at the behest of western intelligence that perhaps were masquerading as Russian operatives,"

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/413095-papadopoulos-argues-he-may-have-been-entrapped

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« Reply #918 on: October 26, 2018, 12:33:14 AM »
The plot thickens:

Title: "Saudi Spy Met With Team Trump About Taking Down Iran"

https://www.thedailybeast.com/saudi-spy-met-with-team-trump-about-taking-down-iran?ref=home

Extract: "Mueller’s investigators examined a series of meetings between an Israeli social media strategist, the general blamed for Jamal Khashoggi’s murder, and Trump adviser Michael Flynn.

Gen. Ahmed Al-Assiri, the Saudi intelligence chief taking the fall for the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, hobnobbed in New York with Michael Flynn and other members of the transition team shortly before Trump’s inauguration. The topic of their discussion: regime change in Iran.

Mohammed bin Salman, the powerful Saudi crown prince, dispatched Assiri from Riyadh for the meetings, which took place over the course of two days in early January 2017, according to communications reviewed by The Daily Beast. The January meetings have come under scrutiny by Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office as part of his probe into foreign governments’ attempts to gain influence in the Trump campaign and in the White House, an individual familiar with the investigation told The Daily Beast. A spokesperson for Mueller declined to comment."
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« Reply #919 on: October 26, 2018, 03:01:00 AM »
Details leak from Papa session with House Judiciary and Oversight and Government Reform committees: Republicans call for  disciplinary action

"He [Meadows] said he would recommend that an unspecified number of officers be referred to the Justice Department’s Office of Professional Responsibility, though he declined to identify them."

"In a letter to the committees earlier this week, Papadopoulos’s lawyer said he would be willing to discuss his interactions with nine individuals, including Downer, Stephen Halper, a professor who worked as an FBI source and had contacts with Papadopoulos, and Joseph Mifsud, a London-based professor who told him in April 2016 that the Russians had thousands of Clinton’s emails.

Exiting the interview, Papadopoulos told reporters that he was “very happy with how it went.” He declined to elaborate."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/former-trump-campaign-aide-papadopoulos-to-speak-with-congressional-investigators/2018/10/24/89b54d52-d7d2-11e8-a10f-b51546b10756_story.html

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« Reply #921 on: October 30, 2018, 08:18:00 PM »
I hope that Mueller nails anyone who is trying to falsely discredit him:

Title: "Mueller Wants the FBI to Look at a Scheme to Discredit Him"

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/10/special-counsel-refers-scheme-targeting-mueller-to-fbi/574411/

Extract: "The special counsel says a woman was offered money to fabricate sexual-harassment claims."

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It is ridiculous that it is taking Team Trump to provide a few written responses to Mueller's questions:
Title: "Trump Suggests He'll Give Written Answers To Mueller, Make More News After Election"

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/30/662086309/trump-suggests-hell-give-written-answers-to-mueller-more-news-after-election

Extract: "President Trump and his legal team may be close to submitting written answers to questions from Justice Department special counsel Robert Mueller, the president has confirmed."
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« Reply #922 on: October 30, 2018, 09:28:14 PM »
While it is impossible to contain GOP craziness regarding Mueller, some of the extreme crazies should be careful not to cross the line into illegality or they may face investigation by the FBI:

Title: "Inside the Crazy Cabal Trying to Smear Robert Mueller"

https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-the-crazy-cabal-trying-to-smear-robert-mueller

Extract: "A Seth Rich conspiracy pusher and fringe online figures appear to be working behind the scenes."
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« Reply #923 on: October 31, 2018, 08:45:05 AM »
On October 30th, the far-right site Gateway Pundit published documents alleging that Robert Mueller, who is heading up the investigation into foreign interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential elections, sexually assaulted a woman in 2010.

The firm that produced this “investigation” was quickly revealed to be a company called "SureFire Intelligence", which has a tiny digital footprint prior to the Mueller allegations.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-the-crazy-cabal-trying-to-smear-robert-mueller
A Seth Rich conspiracy pusher and fringe online figures appear to be working behind the scenes.

Now it turns out that SureFire Intelligence was a completely made-up company.
With fake identities for all of its employees.
Including for example super model Bar Rafaeli as the "Tel Aviv Station Chief".
You can't make this stuff up even if you wanted to :

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/americas/2018/10/30/unintelligent-design-surefire-intelligence/

It appears that SureFire Intelligence was the brainchild of one person : Jacob Wohl, a 20-year-old conservative activist who tweeted about the allegations against Mueller a day before they surfaced on Gateway Pundit, which he also writes for.
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« Reply #924 on: October 31, 2018, 02:13:45 PM »
Sounds like Mr. Mueller may have given Traitor Don an “early Christmas present” via a subpoena to testify to the grand jury.  I’ll post the link later .... fascinating stuff.

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« Reply #925 on: October 31, 2018, 03:25:49 PM »
Sounds like Mr. Mueller may have given Traitor Don an “early Christmas present” via a subpoena to testify to the grand jury.  I’ll post the link later .... fascinating stuff.

Happy Halloween Traitor Don .... sorry, no treats until you testify.😱

For those who want to read up on this matter:

Has Mueller Subpoenaed the President?
A careful reading of court filings suggests the special counsel hasn’t been quiet. Far from it.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/31/has-robert-mueller-subpoenaed-trump-222060

There's been a flurry of activity of sealed filings that involve the Special Counsel.
It's far from certain, but an educated interpretation suggests Trump has been served with a Grand Jury subpoena, which he's vigorously trying to quash.

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« Reply #926 on: October 31, 2018, 03:59:33 PM »
While the first linked NYT article from May 2018 discusses some of the Trump campaign's inappropriately coordinating with Arabian Gulf emissaries in 2016, the second linked article from June 2018 provides much more context, including discussions of how Ben Carson (and his former aids Papadopoulos and Flynn) brought Israel into the Trump-backed grand alliance against Iran.  I am sure that Mueller is far into the weeds on these matters:

Title: "Trump Jr. and Other Aides Met With Gulf Emissary Offering Help to Win Election"

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/19/us/politics/trump-jr-saudi-uae-nader-prince-zamel.html

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Title: "Social Media and Influence Companies Related to the Trump Russia Story"

https://medium.com/@wsiegelman/social-media-and-influence-companies-related-to-the-trump-russia-story-44fc3b5852c0

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•   "An article in Haaretz describes how Ben Carson personally presented Trump with a plan from Israeli-based company Inspiration, run by former IDF intelligence officers. The plan was for voter manipulation in swing states using information Inspiration collected from a Super PAC, “which it then used to compose strategies and slogans that would elevate Trump and ‘float all kinds of things’ about Hillary Clinton.”

•   The original report from Walla describes Ronen Cohen, a former Central Command intelligence officer who founded Inspiration in 2012. The article says Inspiration was not directly hired by the Trump campaign but was introduced by Ben Carson and funded by a PAC and hired three months prior to the election. Inspiration received voter data from the PAC and analyzed the data with another unnamed Israeli company. The messaging created by Inspiration was then passed to an American counterpart for review, revision, or distribution."
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« Reply #927 on: October 31, 2018, 04:07:27 PM »
Regarding the stuff above. Is it illegal to use foreign companies for campaign advice?
Serious question- I don't know.

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« Reply #928 on: October 31, 2018, 04:12:05 PM »
Regarding the stuff above. Is it illegal to use foreign companies for campaign advice?
Serious question- I don't know.

Hiring a foreigner is not a problem (though it seems campaigns tend to do so through intermediaries).
Receiving contributions from foreigners is a crime.  "Contributions" aren't necessarily money, they can be any thing of value to a campaign.

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« Reply #929 on: October 31, 2018, 04:30:04 PM »
Regarding the stuff above. Is it illegal to use foreign companies for campaign advice?
Serious question- I don't know.

Hiring a foreigner is not a problem (though it seems campaigns tend to do so through intermediaries).
Receiving contributions from foreigners is a crime.  "Contributions" aren't necessarily money, they can be any thing of value to a campaign.

Ahh, so if they paid for this "advice" it's OK('ish) but if it was free it's illegal?

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« Reply #930 on: November 01, 2018, 08:20:05 PM »
I imagine that shortly after the midterm elections that Mueller will indict Stone:

Title: "Revealed: October 2016 emails between Steve Bannon and Roger Stone"

https://www.axios.com/roger-stone-steve-bannon-emails-wikileaks-assange-b50259c5-61db-49aa-9a71-411e087c49e2.html

Extract: "Emails obtained by the New York Times show Trump campaign chairman Steve Bannon communicated with political operative Roger Stone in October 2016 about Julian Assange's publicly announced plan to release information related to the 2016 presidential election.

Why it matters: Stone is under scrutiny from special counsel Robert Mueller over allegations he knew about WikiLeaks' plans to release Russian-hacked emails intended to damage the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton's campaign. Per CNN, Bannon was interviewed by Mueller's team last week for at least the third time and was reportedly asked about comments Stone had made about WikiLeaks in 2016."

Edit: I also note that I believe that Bannon will be indicted within a few months of the midterms.
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« Reply #931 on: November 02, 2018, 05:07:46 AM »
Jacob Wohl, a former hedge fund manager turned pro-Trump conspiracy peddler, was a small-time but persistent figure on the far-right for the past two years. Then came the revelation of his apparent involvement as a central character in a bizarre plot to smear special counsel Robert Mueller. Now the FBI has been asked to investigate the alleged scheme, and Wohl may achieve the notoriety he’s been chasing for years.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jacob-wohl-20-far-right-conspiracy-theorist-gets-moment-spotlight-n929726

It's a really bizarre story of lies and deceit by Jacob Wohl, trying to frame Mueller just before the mid-terms.
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« Reply #932 on: November 02, 2018, 07:09:15 AM »
What we know about the shady 'intel agency' behind an alleged GOP scheme to pay women to falsely accuse Mueller of sexual misconduct :

https://www.businessinsider.com/jacob-wohl-made-fake-surefire-intelligence-spreading-lies-on-mueller-2018-10

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According to news reports, the domain name for Surefire Intelligence's website is registered to Wohl, a phone number on the site directed to his mother's number, and several LinkedIn profiles for supposed employees use edited photos of celebrities.

Here Jacob Wohl with one woman that supposedly accused Mueller of sexual misconduct :



Supposedly on a Washington DC airport.

But turns out this was on LAX :

https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1058012634258333696

and it did not take long to find the original picture :



Does Wohl have any more lies to hide, or did we uncover them all ?
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« Reply #933 on: November 02, 2018, 11:48:04 AM »
I’m sure there will be a nice bed in prison for Whol.  Boy .... he is REALLY out over the tips of skis on this one.  Talk about playing in the deep end.  Some people have no concept of truth or ethics.  And they usually draw the same type of people around them...
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« Reply #934 on: November 02, 2018, 02:56:17 PM »
Netanyahu backs MBS in order to try to keep the world's focus on isolating Iran.  This is consistent with the possibility that not only Russia but also Israeli and Sunni backed agents were coordinating with Team Trump to promote regime change in Iran prior to Trump taking office.  I trust that Mueller is making progress on investigating any such possible illegal activities that may have taken place before Trump took office:

Title: "Netanyahu backs Saudis over Khashoggi killing"

https://www.axios.com/netanyahu-backs-saudis-over-khashoggi-killing-04cb5758-cd44-409f-addc-b6ed35e3f6fa.html

Extract: "Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu today spoke publicly about the killing of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi for the first time and backed the Saudi government, which is trying to fend off international pressure over the crisis.

Why it matters: Israel had been working mainly behind the scenes and refrained from speaking publicly on the Khashoggi affair. Netanyahu's statements show Israel still has the back of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman — its secret ally over the last few years. "
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« Reply #935 on: November 03, 2018, 05:22:08 AM »
Netanyahu backs MBS in order to try to keep the world's focus on isolating Iran.  This is consistent with the possibility that not only Russia but also Israeli and Sunni backed agents were coordinating with Team Trump to promote regime change in Iran prior to Trump taking office.  I trust that Mueller is making progress on investigating any such possible illegal activities that may have taken place before Trump took office:

Title: "Netanyahu backs Saudis over Khashoggi killing"

https://www.axios.com/netanyahu-backs-saudis-over-khashoggi-killing-04cb5758-cd44-409f-addc-b6ed35e3f6fa.html

Extract: "Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu today spoke publicly about the killing of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi for the first time and backed the Saudi government, which is trying to fend off international pressure over the crisis.

Why it matters: Israel had been working mainly behind the scenes and refrained from speaking publicly on the Khashoggi affair. Netanyahu's statements show Israel still has the back of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman — its secret ally over the last few years. "

Netanyahu's position is despicable.
I'd have hoped that the truth mattered more than politics for Netanyahu/Israel.
Apparently not, and that is very disappointing.
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« Reply #936 on: November 03, 2018, 05:37:00 AM »
I’m sure there will be a nice bed in prison for Whol.  Boy .... he is REALLY out over the tips of skis on this one.  Talk about playing in the deep end.  Some people have no concept of truth or ethics.  And they usually draw the same type of people around them...

It gets worse for Wohl :

At the same time he was trying to frame Robert Mueller, the Trump-loving huckster took on another case. It, too, has gone poorly :

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jacob-wohls-fake-pi-firm-ghosted-on-a-destitute-woman-looking-for-her-stolen-truck

Julienne Adams began to suspect something was awry with Surefire Intelligence when all of its phone numbers suddenly disconnected.....

......Then the whole thing blew up. Cohen, it turns out, doesn’t actually exist. His real name is Jacob Wohl, and he’s a pro-Trump twitter troll and former teenage hedge fund manager with the dubious distinction of being the youngest person ever to earn a lifetime trading ban from the National Futures Association.
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Netanyahu's position is despicable.
I'd have hoped that the truth mattered more than politics for Netanyahu/Israel.
Apparently not, and that is very disappointing.
Netanyahu cares not one bit about truth, never did.
He is the spiritual forerunner of Trump and a master of fake news tactics, with the difference that Trump is an idiot while Netanyahu is highly intelligent, which makes it much worse.

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« Reply #938 on: November 03, 2018, 03:34:15 PM »
Roger Stone's fluid relationship with the truth is becoming a liability for Team Trump:

Title: "Roger Stone’s Shifting Story Is a Liability"

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/11/roger-stones-murky-relationship-wikileaks/574852/

Extract: " The longtime Trump confidant could face federal charges if Special Counsel Robert Mueller determines he lied to Congress about his contacts with campaign officials and WikiLeaks.

Roger Stone can’t seem to get his story straight. In 2017, the political world’s most well-known “dirty trickster” denied ever having a direct line to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, as he repeatedly boasted during the 2016 election. Now, in light of new emails that show he communicated WikiLeaks’ pre-Election Day plans to at least one senior Trump campaign official in the weeks before the election, his recollection is changing yet again.

“If Stone knew or should have known that the emails were illegally obtained ... and took some step either to disseminate those stolen emails, or to encourage the hackers to continue their illegal work, or to assist in the overall effort to steal and disseminate the stolen emails,” Honig said, “then he likely crosses over into criminal co-conspirator or accomplice territory.”"
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« Reply #939 on: November 03, 2018, 07:01:53 PM »
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« Reply #940 on: November 03, 2018, 07:29:06 PM »
It gets worse for Wohl......something was awry with Surefire Intelligence when all of its phone numbers suddenly disconnected.....His real name is Jacob Wohl, and he’s a pro-Trump twitter troll
Rachael Maddow says his dead phone listings lead back to his..... mother's phone. Sounds like a kid, living at home, stirring up political mud with his mom's internet connection.
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Here's a twitter post from Wohl, in March 2017 complaining about Maddow.
https://twitter.com/JacobAWohl/status/841804791105830912
 Some Wohl time  behind the walls in juvenile detention (better: prison time) is called for, but the re-pubic-lick-uns would bitch that Wohl is just doing re-pubic-lick-un things.
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« Reply #941 on: November 03, 2018, 08:30:27 PM »
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Yeah, Rachael is ahead of everybody.

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« Reply #942 on: November 03, 2018, 09:53:25 PM »
Maybe this has been posted already, 10 days old:

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« Reply #943 on: November 04, 2018, 07:51:53 AM »
Maybe this has been posted already, 10 days old:

Note that the Mueller Investigation & Cohen Investigation go way beyond 'Russia, Russia, Russia' to include also: Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Israel & Qatar:

Title: "Beyond Russia: Understanding the New Trump Campaign Collusion Story"

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/05/understanding-the-new-trump-campaign-collusion-story.html
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« Reply #944 on: November 04, 2018, 08:15:01 AM »
Maybe this has been posted already, 10 days old:

Funny, how Jimmy first got the date wrong of his guest's performance.
That's at 22 seconds in.

Next, at 0:48 we get to the 'heart' of the matter : Jimmy states :

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"We told you that RussiaGate was a mistake for Democrats to push RussiaGate but the reason they are pushing it is because they don't want to do an autopsy on why we have Trump, and the reason that we have Trump is that the Democratic party is completely bought and paid for by the people who are supposed to be regulating. And ehh well guess what...".

OK, Dore. Why not provide some evidence for your increasingly irrational ramblings.

Let's go back-to-front on this one :
For starters : Who are these people that "are supposed to be regulating" ??
And where does is show that these people "completely bought and paid for" the Democratic Party ??
And how do you figure that these people are "the reason we have Trump" ?
And what on Earth does that have to do with the Mueller investigation ?

Dore does not even begin to make ANY logical sense whatsoever.

And that's only into the 1 minute mark.

It only does downhill from there on, with wild speculations and re-vitalizing fact-free anti-Clinton conspiracy theories like Uranium-gate, and wait, what ? Did he just re-vitalize the Seymour Hersh and Binney fact free conspiracy theory about the DNC hack ?

Why do you keep on promoting this conspiracy theorist and anti-Democratic dope, Neven ?
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« Reply #945 on: November 04, 2018, 08:21:40 AM »
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« Reply #946 on: November 04, 2018, 11:08:12 AM »
Why do you keep on promoting this conspiracy theorist and anti-Democratic dope, Neven ?

Don't worry, it's not for you, Rob. It's for those who have ears to hear.
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« Reply #947 on: November 05, 2018, 04:26:16 AM »
Why do you keep on promoting this conspiracy theorist and anti-Democratic dope, Neven ?

Don't worry, it's not for you, Rob. It's for those who have ears to hear.

Sorry.
I didn't know you only like to hear from people with a willing ear for Dore's opinions and conspiracy theories.
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« Reply #948 on: November 05, 2018, 06:44:01 AM »
Sorry.
I didn't know you only like to hear from people with a willing ear for Dore's opinions and conspiracy theories.

'Conspiracy theories' is a nice dog whistle. I'm not surprised it works so well on you.

But yes, Dore's ideas and analysis are very much worth discussing, even if you don't agree with them. I know you're not capable of that and your mind snaps like an oyster after hearing one 'mistake' (usually after 10-20 seconds or so), because you want everyone to rally behind your 'evidence-based truth', which unfortunately amounts to the same neocon/neolib war-mongering BS the world has been fed for decades. We can no longer afford to continue wasting our planet and our time. Dore explains why, literally mentioning AGW a lot recently.

There's a very high chance the Mueller investigation has been a deliberate distraction to waste more time, especially if it helps Trump get re-elected two years from now.
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« Reply #949 on: November 05, 2018, 09:32:15 AM »
Sorry.
I didn't know you only like to hear from people with a willing ear for Dore's opinions and conspiracy theories.

'Conspiracy theories' is a nice dog whistle. I'm not surprised it works so well on you.

But yes, Dore's ideas and analysis are very much worth discussing, even if you don't agree with them.

You mean, it's worth while discussing Uranium-Gate and Seymour Hersh's Seth Rich conspiracy theory about the DNC hack ?

Seriously, Neven ?

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I know you're not capable of that and your mind snaps like an oyster after hearing one 'mistake' (usually after 10-20 seconds or so), because you want everyone to rally behind your 'evidence-based truth',

If not evidence-based, which truth would you like us all to rally behind ?

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which unfortunately amounts to the same neocon/neolib war-mongering BS the world has been fed for decades. We can no longer afford to continue wasting our planet and our time. Dore explains why, literally mentioning AGW a lot recently.

OK. I didn't see Dore mention AGW in the segment you just posted.

Just lots of fact-free opinions and conspiracy theories.
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