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Mueller Investigation & Cohen Investigation
« on: April 18, 2018, 02:50:01 AM »
This thread is intended to focus on the ongoing Mueller investigation ...... AND ...... the Cohen investigation.  There will be overlap in these two ...... and things are going to continue to heat up in coming days and weeks.
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Re: Mueller Investigation & Cohen Investigation
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2018, 03:03:41 AM »
The whole thing is scripted, I'm not wasting my time anymore.

There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is contempt prior to investigation. - Herbert Spencer

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Re: Mueller Investigation & Cohen Investigation
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2018, 03:09:05 AM »
Thanks, we really needed another political thread  :P

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Re: Mueller Investigation & Cohen Investigation
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2018, 09:41:03 AM »
So, is Mueller being investigated? Or is Cohen also leading an investigation?  ;)

BTW, why did it take so long to get to Trump's lawyer?
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Re: Mueller Investigation & Cohen Investigation
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2018, 04:31:19 PM »

BTW, why did it take so long to get to Trump's lawyer?

Well-established precedent, I think.  Here, at least, lawyers enjoy privilege against investigation when it comes to most dealings with clients and their "work product." 
This privilege is supported, of course, by all the lawyers who make the laws and sit as judges, as well as a strong lobby in Washington.

A partial exception exists specifically for RICO investigations.  These laws permit lawyers to be charged if they participate in operational decisions of a corrupt organization.  Raids like the one on Cohen are not uncommon in RICO investigations, rare otherwise.  Bank fraud and wire fraud are specifically listed in the RICO statutes, as I recall.  The Trump Organization seems to fit a fairly classic picture of a "racketeering influenced and corrupt organization."

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Re: Mueller Investigation & Cohen Investigation
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2018, 03:21:55 PM »
Facing a Legal Storm, Trump Calls His Old Lawyer Buddy, Who Warns That Michael Cohen Will Almost Certainly Flip

If Michael Cohen were to flip on Donnie....it is "lights out" for Traitor Trump.  An "ex attorney" of Trump's thinks that it is very likely that Cohen will indeed flip on Trump.

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What did Goldberg have to say? Keep an eye on Cohen; he’s a rat. From the WSJ:

One of President Donald Trump’s longtime legal advisers said he warned the president in a phone call Friday that Michael Cohen, Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer and close friend, would turn against the president and cooperate with federal prosecutors if faced with criminal charges.

Whoa! Now we’re talking. And then?

Mr. Goldberg said he cautioned the president not to trust Mr. Cohen. On a scale of 100 to 1, where 100 is fully protecting the president, Mr. Cohen “isn’t even a 1,” he said he told Mr. Trump…. In the call, Mr. Goldberg [-] said he told the president Mr. Cohen could even agree to wear a wire and try to record conversations with Mr. Trump. “You have to be alert,” Mr. Goldberg said he told the president. “I don’t care what Michael says.”


[/size][/b]https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/trump-calls-old-lawyer-buddy-who-warns-michael-cohen-will-flip.html
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Re: Mueller Investigation & Cohen Investigation
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2018, 03:36:05 PM »
New York Attorney General Seeks Power to Bypass Presidential Pardons

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Attorney General Eric T. Schneiderman of New York is moving to change New York state law so that he and other local prosecutors would have the power to bring criminal charges against aides to President Trump who have been pardoned, according to a letter Mr. Schneiderman sent to the governor and state lawmakers on Wednesday.

The move, if approved by Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo and the Legislature, would serve notice that the legal troubles of the president and his aides may continue without the efforts of Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel investigating possible Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

Under the plan, Mr. Schneiderman, a Democrat, seeks to exempt New York’s double jeopardy law from cases involving presidential pardons, according to the letter, a copy of which was obtained by The New York Times. The current law and the concept of double jeopardy in general mean that a person cannot be tried for the same crime twice.

Right now, New York state law prevents people from being prosecuted more than once for crimes related to the same act, even if the original prosecution was in federal court. There are already a number of exceptions to the law, and the letter says that Mr. Schneiderman is proposing to add a new one that could be used if federal pardons are issued.

One of the "assumptions" that I have had all along..... is that Eric Schneiderman would bring the STATE CASE against some/all of the Trump defendants BEFORE the Federal case.  That way, the state law against multiple prosecution would not be an issue.

But.... if New York were to pass the proposed exemption, then both the state AND feds could prosecute without being waylaid by the "double prosecution" New York law, AND without fear that anyone other than the governor of New York could pardon them.   

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/18/nyregion/schneiderman-trump-mueller-pardons.html
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Re: Mueller Investigation & Cohen Investigation
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2018, 01:31:14 AM »
Mueller should get a warrant to search Rudy Giuliani's offices just like the FBI who searched Cohen's office/room:

Title: "Giuliani says he is joining Trump's legal team to help bring Mueller probe to a conclusion"

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/19/politics/giuliani-trump-legal-team/index.html

Extract: "Rudy Giuliani is joining President Donald Trump's personal legal team, Trump's personal lawyer Jay Sekulow announced Thursday.

In an interview with CNN, Giuliani said he wants to make clear that his role on the legal team will be "limited."

Giuliani told CNN his focus will be on interfacing with special counsel Robert Mueller in his Russia probe and to help bring everything to a conclusion, saying it "needs a little push."

Mueller is investigating Russian meddling in the 2016 election, including any potential ties between the Trump campaign and Russia. Trump has repeatedly denied any collusion."
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Re: Mueller Investigation & Cohen Investigation
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2018, 09:11:24 PM »
Who knows if this lose thread in Cohen's recent narrative will unwind to expose deeper matters:

Title: "Michael Cohen Says He’s “Never” Been to Prague. He Told Me a Different Story."

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/04/michael-cohen-says-hes-never-been-to-prague-he-told-me-a-different-story/

Extract: "In the weeks after the election, the details in Steele’s dispatches remained secret, and I spent weeks trying to determine if any of the allegations could be substantiated. The claim that Cohen met secretly with Russians seemed to be one of the tales that might be confirmable. I took a stab at that. While pursuing that angle, I called Cohen. He insisted that there had been no trip to Prague and that he had met with no Russians during the campaign.

This week I reviewed my notes from that phone call. Here’s the direct quote from Cohen: “I haven’t been to Prague in 14 years. I was in Prague for one afternoon 14 years ago.”

What’s notable? In that conversation, Cohen acknowledged he had once been to Prague—but a long time ago. In his recent denial, Cohen, whose home and office were raided last week by FBI agents seeking records related to the Stormy Daniels case and other matters (including taxi medallions), asserted he had “never” been to Prague. How significant is this discrepancy? There is no telling. But it is an inconsistency. Cohen’s lead lawyer could not be reached for a comment."
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Re: Mueller Investigation & Cohen Investigation
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2018, 03:18:24 AM »
Why would Trump's legal team be bracing for Cohen to cooperate with the federal investigation, unless Team Trump knows that Cohen has knowledge of criminal activity with which to trade for a plea deal?

Title: "Trump’s legal team bracing for Cohen to cooperate with federal investigation: report"

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/384180-trumps-legal-team-bracing-for-cohen-to-cooperate-with-federal

Extract: "President Trump's legal team is bracing for the possibility that Michael Cohen could flip on the president and cooperate with prosecutors, according to a New York Times report."
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Re: Mueller Investigation & Cohen Investigation
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2018, 08:10:41 AM »
Many conservative Republicans in the House want to impeach Rosenstein, and by turning over the Comey memos, Rosenstein not only survives to fight another day, but also the memos make Donald Trump look very bad:

Title: "Rosenstein survives latest clash with Congress"

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/20/rosenstein-congress-comey-memos-clash-543950

Extract: "By handing over the Comey memos, the man overseeing the Mueller probe has soothed his sharpest critics — for now."
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Re: Mueller Investigation & Cohen Investigation
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2018, 08:16:07 AM »
The DNC strikes back with a civil lawsuit against the RNC, Wikileaks and Russia (Russia, Russia):

Title: "DNC Sues Trump Campaign, WikiLeaks, Russia Over Election Interference"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-20/trump-campaign-russia-sued-by-dnc-over-election-interference

Extract: "The Democratic National Committee sued Russia, the Trump campaign and WikiLeaks claiming widespread interference in the 2016 election as part of a "brazen attack on American democracy.

The civil lawsuit could force President Donald Trump’s 2016 staffers to answer questions under oath about campaign activities. Evidence gathered by the DNC could be made public in court filings and at a trial -- in contrast to information obtained through Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe of Russian interference, which might not be publicly disclosed."


Stop and think how the discovery process in the DNC civil lawsuit can help expose dirt on the Trump campaign that could help Mueller to file appropriate criminal charges (much like Stormy Daniels' civil lawsuit helped the FBI get a search warrant to seize Michael Cohen's electronic records).
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« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2018, 08:19:51 AM »
The evidence is mounting to push Cohen into a corner:

Title: "Former lawyer for Stormy Daniels, Karen McDougal cooperating with Cohen probe"

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/20/politics/keith-davidson-michael-cohen/index.html

Extract: "Keith Davidson, the lawyer at the center of agreements with two women paid to keep silent about alleged affairs from more than a decade ago with Donald Trump, is cooperating with the probe into the President's personal lawyer Michael Cohen, Davidson's spokesman said Friday."
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« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2018, 03:27:45 PM »
Stormy Daniels' Lawyer Warns Trump of Evidence DVD, and Says Hannity Faces 'Embarrassing' Revelations

Oh I hope not.  I would hate to see Sean Hannity sully his already abysmal reputation.... ;)

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In an appearance on HBO’s Real Time With Bill Maher Friday, Stormy Daniel’s lawyer Michael Avenatti claimed that a DVD of evidence of Daniels’ affair with President Donald Trump is “locked and loaded.”

In the comments about the DVD on the online-only Overtime segment of the show, Avenatti was quizzed about a mysterious DVD he had tweeted a picture of with the message If “a picture is worth a thousand words,” how many words is this worth?????”

Avenatti has described the picture of the DVD as a "warning shot" to Trump.



https://www.yahoo.com/news/stormy-daniels-apos-lawyer-warns-100409981.html
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« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2018, 04:48:30 PM »
Hmmmmmmmmmmm......

Why didn't Donald just say, "There is nothing for Michael to flip on".  Instead..... Donnie just says that Michael isn't going to flip.....like THERE IS SOMETHING TO FLIP ON.  Even Donnie knows that there is stuff that Michael can flip on....and it is NOT good for Traitor Don.

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In three tweets, Trump claimed that the Times and its “third rate reporter” and “crooked H flunkie” Maggie Haberman were “going out of their way to destroy Michael Cohen and his relationship with me in the hope that he will ‘flip.’”

“Sorry, I don’t see Michael doing that despite the horrible Witch Hunt and the dishonest media!” Trump added.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-rips-york-times-reporter-131740060.html
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« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2018, 04:59:46 PM »
Michael Avenatti on Bill Maher ......  Bill Maher doesn't have a youtube channel....but he does have his own show.



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« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2018, 05:30:17 PM »
One of the more fascinating things about the 2016 election that elected Traitor Trump, is the involvement of Cambridge Analytica.

The Palmer Report just did an article on it and the link is below:

http://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/ted-cruz-trump-russia/8923/

Keep in mind....that Cambridge Analytica as well as "the Mercers" (financial backers of Cambridge Analytica) were first supporters of Ted Cruz before moving to Donald Trump after it was clear that Trump was going to get the nomination.  As well ..... Kelly Anne Conway was also with Ted Cruz (and blasting Donald Trump) before moving to the Donald Trump campaign.

The involvement of the Mercers is going to be looked into by the Mueller Investigation:

1)  When did the Mercers AND Cambridge Analytica first get involved with Donald Trump?
2)  What was the interaction between Cambridge Analytica and any Russian sources?
3)  What was the interaction between Cambridge Analytica and the Trump campaign?
4)  What knowledge does Ted Cruz or Kelly Anne Conway have with the operations of Cambridge Analytica and their communication with Russian sources?
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« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2018, 08:40:02 PM »
Bloomberg reports that Rosenstein can confirmed to  Trump that Trump is not a target of the Mueller investigation:

"Rosenstein, who brought up the investigations himself, offered the assurance during a meeting with Trump at the White House last Thursday, a development that helped tamp down the president’s desire to remove Rosenstein or Mueller ..."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-19/rosenstein-said-to-tell-trump-he-s-not-target-in-mueller-probe

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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2018, 05:26:17 PM »
Given the scandalous linked real estate story, it is little wonder that Hannity sought Cohen's real estate advice:

Title: "Michael Cohen case shines light on Sean Hannity's property empire"

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/apr/22/michael-cohen-sean-hannity-property-real-estate-ben-carson-hud?CMP=share_btn_tw

Extract: " Fox News host who said Trump’s fixer ‘knows real estate’ has a portfolio that includes support from Department of Housing, a fact he did not mention when interviewing Ben Carson last year

The records link Hannity to a group of shell companies that spent at least $90m on more than 870 homes in seven states over the past decade. The properties range from luxurious mansions to rentals for low-income families. Hannity is the hidden owner behind some of the shell companies and his attorney did not dispute that he owns all of them.

Dozens of the properties were bought at a discount in 2013, after banks foreclosed on their previous owners for defaulting on mortgages. Before and after then, Hannity sharply criticised Barack Obama for the US foreclosure rate. In January 2016, Hannity said there were “millions more Americans suffering under this president” partly because of foreclosures."
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« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2018, 05:39:17 PM »
This is good stuff! Hannity is such a hypocritical ***hole. :D
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« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2018, 08:57:43 PM »
Who knows, if Trump goes to prison for his role in Russiagate maybe while thereche will write the equivalent of "Mein Kampf", just to keep the pot boiling:

Title: "Pulitzer-winning reporter David Cay Johnston: “The evidence suggests Trump is a traitor”"

https://www.salon.com/2018/04/23/pulitzer-winning-reporter-david-cay-johnston-the-evidence-suggests-trump-is-a-traitor/

Extract: "Investigative reporter who has covered Trump for 30 years dares to imagine impeachment — and President Nancy Pelosi

Here are the key things people should know about Donald Trump. He comes from a family of criminals: His grandfather made his fortune running whorehouses in Seattle and in the Yukon Territory. His father, Fred, had a business partner named Willie Tomasello, who was an associate of the Gambino crime family. Trump's father was also investigated by the U.S. Senate for ripping off the government for what would be the equivalent of $36 million in today's money. Donald got his showmanship from his dad, as well as his comfort with organized criminals.

The job of a prosecutor is not to bring the perfect case, it's not to bring the case that should be brought for political reasons. It's to bring the easiest, most solid case that wins. Mueller will do that. There is nothing that prevents indicting a sitting president, but it is an untested issue. Mueller is going to have to decide whether to indict him or to go to Congress.

There is no good ending to the story. America will survive this, we'll get past it, but whenever Trump leaves, there's no good ending. If Trump is removed by impeachment or by the voters, whether in a Republican primary or a general election, I know what he will do. He's already told us what he will do by his actions. Trump will spend the rest of his days fomenting violence and revolution in this country.

At an absolute minimum, Donald Trump has divided loyalties, and the evidence we already have suggests that Donald Trump is a traitor. In fact, I would say that the evidence we already have, the public materials such as emails for example, strongly indicate that Donald Trump is a traitor."
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« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2018, 09:11:27 PM »
The linked op/ed by a history professor opines that Trump's Presidency may well be over within the next 14 months:

Title: "A History Professor Explains Why Trump's Presidency Appears to Be Reaching Its End"

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/history-professor-explains-why-trumps-presidency-appears-be-reaching-its-end

Extract: "The president's administration is in worse shape than even critics expected.

So with 15 months down in the Trump Presidency, the chance of his leaving in the next 14 months at the most is on the horizon."
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« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2018, 03:04:37 AM »
If what Michael Flynn, Jr. just tweeted is true then Pence and Trump may both be lying about why Michael Flynn was fired:

Title: "Did Michael Flynn Jr. just reveal something very, very important about the Russia investigation?"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/did-michael-flynn-jr-just-reveal-something-very-very-important-about-the-russia-investigation/ar-AAwfrXp?ocid=spartandhp

Extract: "On Monday morning, Michael Flynn Jr., the son of President Donald Trump's former national security adviser, tweeted something very, well ... interesting.

"American Patriot @GenFlynn did not lie to Pence (or anyone else in the admin) about his perfectly legal and appropriate conversations w Russian AMB Kislyak in Dec 2016," Flynn Jr. tweeted. "Why would a highly decorated military intel officer lie about something legal? Been a MSM lie from day 1."

So just to be clear, what Flynn Jr. is alleging is that his dad never lied to Vice President Mike Pence (or anyone else!) about his interactions with then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak."
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« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2018, 03:45:32 AM »
He is evidence that Trump lied to Comey; which at a minimum serves to support Comey's memos:

Title: "Flight Records Illuminate Mystery of Trump's Moscow Nights"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-23/flight-records-illuminate-mystery-of-trump-s-moscow-nights

Extract: "President Donald Trump twice gave James Comey an alibi for why a salacious report about the 2013 Miss Universe pageant in Moscow couldn’t be true: He never even spent the night in Russia during that trip, Trump told the former FBI director, according to Comey’s memos about the conversations.

Yet the broad timeline of Trump’s stay, stretching from Friday, Nov. 8, 2013, through the following Sunday morning, has been widely reported. And it’s substantiated by social media posts that show he slept in Moscow the night before the Miss Universe contest.

Now, flight records obtained by Bloomberg provide fresh details. Combined with existing accounts and Trump’s own social-media posts, they capture two days that, nearly five years later, loom large in the controversy engulfing the White House and at the heart of the Comey memos, which the Justice Department turned over last week to Congress."

Edit: The following link provides the legal code that defines what constitutes making a false statement to the FBI, and it certainly sounds like Trump was doing exactly that to Comey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1001
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« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2018, 05:56:00 AM »
Is there a walkback of the bloomberg claim that rosenstein confirmed to trump that he is not a Mueller target ?
I have not seen counterclaim yet.


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« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2018, 06:25:45 AM »
The "target" issue came up a few weeks ago as well, with some debate over what the legal definitions of "target" and "subject" are.

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Trump is not in the clear, but neither are criminal charges necessarily imminent. Trump might never become a target of the investigation, or he could change from subject to target at any time.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/04/trump-target-subject/557243/

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« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2018, 06:02:58 PM »
The "target" issue came up a few weeks ago as well, with some debate over what the legal definitions of "target" and "subject" are.

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Trump is not in the clear, but neither are criminal charges necessarily imminent. Trump might never become a target of the investigation, or he could change from subject to target at any time.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/04/trump-target-subject/557243/

Quite right.  Plus another interpretation.  If Mueller is following established DoJ guidance, note that a sitting President can't be indicted by Mueller.  One could argue, then, that a sitting President can *never* be a "target" of investigation, even if such investigation is focused intensely on proving extensive criminal wrongdoing by said President.  If so, said President would only be a "target" upon leaving office. 

Drawing a distinction between target and subject might be mere semantics.  This might all just be misleading to Trump, while being technically accurate.

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« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2018, 06:56:04 PM »
As a follow-on to my earlier post, Trump cannot stop lying about his doings during the 2013 Moscow Miss Universe pageant (when the Pee-Pee Tape was allegedly filmed):

Title: "Flight Records Illuminate Mystery of Trump's Moscow Nights"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-23/flight-records-illuminate-mystery-of-trump-s-moscow-nights

Extract: "President Donald Trump twice gave James Comey an alibi for why a salacious report about the 2013 Miss Universe pageant in Moscow couldn’t be true: He never even spent the night in Russia during that trip, Trump told the former FBI director, according to Comey’s memos about the conversations.

Yet the broad timeline of Trump’s stay, stretching from Friday, Nov. 8, 2013, through the following Sunday morning, has been widely reported. And it’s substantiated by social media posts that show he slept in Moscow the night before the Miss Universe contest.

Now, flight records obtained by Bloomberg provide fresh details. Combined with existing accounts and Trump’s own social-media posts, they capture two days that, nearly five years later, loom large in the controversy engulfing the White House and at the heart of the Comey memos, which the Justice Department turned over last week to Congress."

See also the following linked July 13, 2017 article:

Title: "Trump's Two Nights of Parties in Moscow Echo Years Later"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-13/trump-s-two-nights-of-parties-in-moscow-reverberate-years-later

Also per Seth Abramson:
Extract: "Prior to Donald Trump's most recent lie about his 2013 Moscow trip—that he never spent a night in Moscow, a claim made in response to the Comey Memos—the fact is that Trump had lied *repeatedly* about every single aspect of his trip. Major media is only just now taking notice.

First, Trump lied about how long his trip was. Prior to the Russia probe he told a radio host it was a "weekend in Moscow"; as soon as the probe started, he described it as merely a "there-and-back" trip. So he's been lying about how long he was there for well over a year now.

He also claimed Keith Schiller would be able to vouch for his whereabouts on the nights of November 8-9 and November 9-10. In fact, when questioned about the trip by Congress, Schiller said he left Trump's door and had no idea whatsoever what may have happened there afterward.

He also claimed he'd never do anything untoward in a Moscow hotel room—as he had a strict policy against untoward conduct in Russia (due to fears of audio/video surveillance). Then ex-Miss Hungary Kata Sarka revealed Trump propositioned her for sex in his room on November 9th.

He also said there were never any women in his room on either night he was in Moscow. But the BBC has spoken to two witnesses who say they saw a group of women in the Ritz lobby arguing with hotel staff about whether they'd be allowed to go to Trump's room without signing in.

Backchannel, The Guardian told at *least* one journalist it had further info—single-sourced and a step removed from the subject, so not yet formally published—that a female Trump Organization employee told Mueller she saw the same women doing the same thing on the same night.

Trump claimed him being a germaphobe made the Steele dossier allegation impossible. He must've been hoping no one knew what the allegation was, as in fact it didn't include a claim Trump was anywhere near the urine when the women in Trump's room urinated on Obama's former bed.

Trump allowed Emin Agalarov—son of his business partner and Putin developer Aras Agalarov—to go public with an "alibi" for Trump's whereabouts the morning of November 9. Trump knew that alibi didn't cover any of the times the alleged conduct could've occurred—but said nothing.

Trump recently retweeted tweets implying that he had directly, formally, and conclusively asked James Comey to investigate the Ritz Moscow allegations—but Comey's contemporaneous memos confirm Trump said he was "thinking of asking" and then demurred as soon as Comey hesitated.

Trump claimed to Comey "there were no prostitutes—there were never any prostitutes." But Schiller says that a Russian—either Emin Agalarov or Artem Klyushin—offered prostitutes to Trump via Schiller, and that Schiller told Trump of the offer. Trump *hid* this fact for a year.

A pal of Trump entourage-mates Agalarov and Klyushin—who's publicly said he secretly helped Trump win the election—is Konstantin Rykov, who runs one of Moscow's largest, most successful brothels. This bolsters Schiller's account that prostitutes were made available to Trump.

A major media outlet interviewed a Muscovite at the center of the Moscow prostitute scene, and he said the word among Moscow prostitutes was that the infamous "golden shower" had happened. A Moscow sex site lists the Ritz Moscow as a "girl-friendly" hotel (i.e., prostitutes).

Trump's obsession with the claim—he hounded Comey—is what lawyers deem consciousness of guilt, as it was coupled with lies and an acknowledgment it'd be deemed believable (plus, an obsession with the idea the women wouldn't have been hookers because he didn't "need" hookers).

Finally, in January 2017 Paul Wood of the BBC contacted the CIA about the existence of tapes of Trump in a compromising situation in the Ritz Moscow, and the CIA *confirmed* to Wood that such tapes existed *and* that multiple European intel agencies knew of the tapes also."
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« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2018, 07:03:01 PM »
The FBI is still navigating legal minefields associated with Michael Cohen:

Title: "Flipping Cohen against Trump may not be so easy"

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/24/cohen-trump-attorney-legal-minefield-546336

Extract: "Secrecy issues make turning a lawyer against a client a legal minefield, experts say"
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« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2018, 07:43:02 PM »
Birds of a feather …
Title: "Hannity-linked shell company bought properties through fraudulent dealer: report"

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/384544-hannity-linked-shell-company-bought-properties-through-fraudulent-dealer

Extract: "A shell company linked to Fox News host Sean Hannity bought properties through a dealer who pleaded guilty to criminal charges in a scheme to fraudulently purchase foreclosed homes, The Guardian reported Tuesday.

The Hannity-linked company had bought 11 homes in Georgia in 2012 that had initially been bought by the property dealer Jeff Brock, according to The Guardian. It added that Brock purchased the foreclosed homes before passing them to another corporation, which sold the properties to the shell company at a profit.

Brock pleaded guilty in 2016 to bank fraud and conspiracy for his part in a scheme to rig auctions for foreclosed homes, the news outlet noted, adding that he was ordered to pay more than $166,000 in fines and restitution and was sentenced to six months in prison over the federal charges."
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« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2018, 07:53:06 PM »
FYI ..... there is a case NOW before the Supreme Court (Lucia v Securities and Exchange Commission) that we need to keep our eye on.

The Lucia case itself is fairly "narrow" in scope....BUT.....Donnie's boys are trying to get it "expanded".  In the coming June....we should know IF the Supreme Court is going to widen the scope.

From The Palmer Report:

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Lucia involves the hiring of administrative judges at the SEC, a minor case in the scheme of things. President Trump’s Solicitor General, Noel Francisco, intervened in the case, seeking an expansive declaration by the Supreme Court regarding the president’s power to fire all “officers of the United States” who “exercise significant authority.” The Supreme Court declined to include the removal question in its grant of certiorari, but Francisco Francisco (who would oversee the Mueller probe if Rosenstein were fired) briefed the issue anyway- and asked the Supreme Court to give him time to argue because “only the government has addressed in its brief the merits of the removal question.”

Keep your eyes open.  Remember....Donnie wants what Vladimir already has.  And he has to get rid of the Mueller investigation.

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« Reply #31 on: April 25, 2018, 04:13:03 AM »
Cohen is balancing on a knifes edge between keeping up a 'good fight' and giving in to the mounting pressure.  Maybe his mounting legal expenses will force him to end his legal relationship with Trump so that he can cut plea deals with the FBI:

Title: "“He Wants to Fight This”: Michael Cohen, Amid Bewildering Stormy Chaos, Is Still Holding Out Hope for Survival"

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/04/michael-cohen-fight

Extract: "According to people close to Cohen, the president’s former personal attorney oscillates between moments of dark brooding and optimistic survivalism. “He’s on the edge of his seat,” says one person familiar with his thinking."
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« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2018, 09:16:52 PM »
Even the 'quants' think that Trump's presidency is at risk from the Mueller investigation:

Title: "The Mueller Risk Index: The newest way for Wall Street to navigate how much to freak out about the Russia investigation"

http://www.businessinsider.com/mueller-risk-index-wall-street-trump-russia-political-risk-2018-4

Extract:
•   As Donald Trump's presidency unfolds, one firm is spearheading a new barometer to gauge what's going on in Washington.

•   They call it the Mueller Risk Index.

•   The index measures political risk to the Trump administration, and the market's resulting reaction, from developments in the special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation.
   
•   A string of bombshell developments over the last month have led to a surge in the index.
   
•   GeoQuant, the political risk consulting firm that developed the index, found that in the two days following an increase in the index, equity markets tend to decline and the dollar tends to rally.
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« Reply #34 on: April 25, 2018, 09:35:20 PM »
While the Mueller investigation is a legal matter, whether Trump is removed from office prior to 2020 likely depends on the politics of the coming mid-term Senate races, and the Democrats are awash in campaign contributions:

Title: "Trump's election nightmare: losing the Senate"

https://www.axios.com/2018-midterms-republicans-democrats-senate-2cd4cadf-77a5-42dd-9a29-829429aad9ad.html

Extract: "Top Republicans have conceded for months that they're likely lose the House in November's midterms. But some well-wired operatives now tell Axios that President Trump may face his real nightmare: losing the Senate, giving Democrats both ends of the Capitol, and one-third of the government.

Why it matters: It's not just that Democratic dominance at the Capitol would speed impeachment proceedings and trap the White House in a thicket of oversight probes and hearings. Twin losses would be a massive repudiation of Trump and his brand of Republicanism, just as he embarks on his reelection.

A killer data point, from the N.Y. Times: Republicans have underperformed in every special election since Trump became president."

See also:

http://cookpolitical.com/ratings/senate-race-ratings
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« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2018, 10:12:31 PM »
I believe that Mueller has already interviewed Sarka, and her testimony could place Trump in Moscow when the Pee Pee Tape was allegedly made:

Title: "Former Miss Hungary Kata Sarka Claims Donald Trump Invited Her Back to His Moscow Hotel Room in 2013"

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/miss-hungary-trump-invited-me-back-to-his-moscow-hotel-room-w461160/
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« Reply #37 on: April 25, 2018, 10:17:13 PM »
While the Mueller investigation is a legal matter, whether Trump is removed from office prior to 2020 likely depends on the politics of the coming mid-term Senate races, and the Democrats are awash in campaign contributions:

Title: "Trump's election nightmare: losing the Senate"

https://www.axios.com/2018-midterms-republicans-democrats-senate-2cd4cadf-77a5-42dd-9a29-829429aad9ad.html

Extract: "Top Republicans have conceded for months that they're likely lose the House in November's midterms. But some well-wired operatives now tell Axios that President Trump may face his real nightmare: losing the Senate, giving Democrats both ends of the Capitol, and one-third of the government.

Why it matters: It's not just that Democratic dominance at the Capitol would speed impeachment proceedings and trap the White House in a thicket of oversight probes and hearings. Twin losses would be a massive repudiation of Trump and his brand of Republicanism, just as he embarks on his reelection.

A killer data point, from the N.Y. Times: Republicans have underperformed in every special election since Trump became president."

See also:

http://cookpolitical.com/ratings/senate-race-ratings

While the Cook Political senate race ratings link shows the race for Bob Corker's TN Senate seat as a toss-up, the linked article states that a recent polls indicates that the Democrat candidate currently holds a 3% lead:

Title: "Poll: Dem leads by 3 points in Tennessee Senate race"

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/384763-poll-dem-leads-by-3-points-in-tennessee-senate-race

Title: "Democrat Phil Bredesen holds a slim lead over Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R) in Tennessee's Senate race to replace retiring Sen. Bob Corker (R), according to a new poll out Wednesday."
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« Reply #38 on: April 25, 2018, 10:28:14 PM »
"Even the 'quants' think that Trump's presidency is at risk ..."

These would be the same quants who swore up and down the housing market wasn't in a bubble in 2008 ?
Or that a CLO poses no risk at all today because clearly a collateralized loan obligation is completely different from a collateralized debt obligation? Or that the auto loan market is solid? Or that student loans will be repaid ?

Right. I will go right out and buy slices of the rental CLOs and auto and student loans. Or I could just burn the cash on a nice warm bonfire. Decisions, decisions.

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« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2018, 12:24:01 AM »
These would be the same quants who swore up and down the housing market wasn't in a bubble in 2008 ?

If the GOP loses control of the Senate, that would include quants working for Mitchell McConnell's replacement:

Title: "Could A Blue Wave Really Make Its Way To Texas?"

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-does-it-take-to-flip-a-state-from-red-to-blue-or-blue-to-red/

Extract: "To close, I’ll reveal my read: I think Texas is gonna flip — or come damn close."
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« Reply #40 on: April 26, 2018, 02:08:24 AM »
thehill reporting Cohen to take the fifth in Stormy Daniels/Stephanie Clifford civil lawsuit " ... due to the ongoing criminal investigation ... "

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/384915-cohen-to-plead-the-fifth-in-stormy-daniels-lawsuit

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« Reply #42 on: April 26, 2018, 03:03:59 AM »
Trump's approval rating is slipping:

Title: "Trump approval rating drops to 39 percent: poll"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-approval-rating-drops-to-39-percent-poll/ar-AAwkHz2?ocid=spartandhp

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« Reply #43 on: April 26, 2018, 07:27:03 AM »
Trump's approval rating is slipping:

Title: "Trump approval rating drops to 39 percent: poll"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-approval-rating-drops-to-39-percent-poll/ar-AAwkHz2?ocid=spartandhp

The five thirty eight polls disagree.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/voters/

They're showing Trump at 41.9%, an improvement from the 39.5% he was polling at the end of last year, among the likely voters.

They also show the Democrats lead over Republicans having slipped from a 12.9% advantage last year to today's 6.9% lead. With the Gerrymandering now in place for the 2018 contest this leaves many seats "up for grabs".

We need to win back a large number of the 1,000 seats we've lost in the recent elections or the 2020 election will be difficult for us because of the additional Gerrymandering that the 2020 census will allow.

I'm not sure how this subject ended up in this thread. It belongs in the Presidential Poll, or possibly the Corporate Democrats thread.
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« Reply #44 on: April 26, 2018, 03:47:27 PM »
By the way.....

NO WAY IN HELL THAT TRAITOR DON SITS DOWN WITH MUELLER.  NO WAY

Cohen is taking the 5th, and so will Donnie.  He has to....  Either that, or lie to Mueller.  And by now, Donnie knows that Mueller has him "by the short hairs."

Mueller will likely have to subpoena Donnie ..... and Donnie will take the 5th.  The only way that doesn't happen, is if Donnie figures out a way to get rid of Mueller.

Donnie really is in DEEP SHIT....without much of a paddle to speak of.  Meanwhile ...... his poor excuse for an administration is unraveling around him...  I'm sure glad Hillary isn't in there. ;)






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« Reply #45 on: April 26, 2018, 05:16:49 PM »
I'm sure glad Hillary isn't in there. ;)

And well you should, unless you want to completely lose the House, Senate and then the presidency in 2020. 1000 seats lost not enough?

Keep thinking like this and they will force another Hillary onto you two years from now.
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« Reply #46 on: April 26, 2018, 05:35:56 PM »
By the way.....

NO WAY IN HELL THAT TRAITOR DON SITS DOWN WITH MUELLER.  NO WAY

Cohen is taking the 5th, and so will Donnie.  He has to....  Either that, or lie to Mueller.  And by now, Donnie knows that Mueller has him "by the short hairs."

Mueller will likely have to subpoena Donnie ..... and Donnie will take the 5th.  The only way that doesn't happen, is if Donnie figures out a way to get rid of Mueller.

Donnie really is in DEEP SHIT....without much of a paddle to speak of.  Meanwhile ...... his poor excuse for an administration is unraveling around him... 
I agree with you.... 'cept Don Trump is really "don'T rump". His name told us not to vote for him. 

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« Reply #47 on: April 26, 2018, 05:45:13 PM »
Keep thinking like this and they will force another Hillary onto you two years from now.
Hillary won by almost 3 milllion votes. Efforts to rid ourselves of the undemocratic & suppressionist Electoral College have been opposed by the equally undemocratic & suppressionist re-pubic-lick-un party.

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And well you should, unless you want to completely lose the House, Senate and then the presidency in 2020. 1000 seats lost not enough?

1)  There are only 435 members in the US House of Reps.  If the Dems lose 1,000 ..... they surely would be in trouble.  There's another 100 Senators.

2)  I'm an Independent.  By "you" ..... I assume you mean ME (Buddy).  "I'm" not going to lose the House (nor am I going to "win" the House).  I think the US "wins" by voting in the better candidate.  We LOSE.....by voting in the WORST candidate(s).  With Trump .....WE DEFINITELY LOST..... as evidenced by what Donnie has done AND not done.

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Keep thinking like this and they will force another Hillary onto you two years from now.

Hopefully we won't see another Hillary NOR another Donnie in quite a while.  At some point down the road ...... maybe another 50 years ..... we'll find two people like that (a BAD candidate AND a HORRIBLE candidate).  But I don't see that happening in the next few decades at least.

And Donnie ......well..... my pal Donnie has set a low standard that a even a snake couldn't slither under.  That bar is on the ground....  Nobody is going to break his record of incompetence, and its only been 15 months.  Incredible.....
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« Reply #49 on: April 26, 2018, 06:59:18 PM »
If Cohen only performs 'a tiny, tiny little fraction' of Trump's overall legal work, then the materials that the FBI seized from Cohen 'are unlikely to contain may attorney-client communications':

Title: "Prosecutors seize on Trump interview remarks in Cohen documents fight"

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/26/trump-cohen-remarks-fox-prosecutors-555793

Extract: "During a freewheeling interview on "Fox and Friends," Trump said Cohen was just one of many attorneys who have worked for him.

Less than three hours later, prosecutors from the U.S. attorney's office in Manhattan cited the president's remarks as an indication that paper records and electronic files taken from Cohen's home, office and hotel room are unlikely to contain many attorney-client communications.

"President Trump reportedly said on cable television this morning that Cohen performs 'a tiny, tiny little fraction' of his overall legal work," prosecutors said in a letter to U.S. District Court Judge Kimba Wood. The prosecution team also noted that another Cohen client, Fox News host Sean Hannity, also minimized the volume of legal work Cohen did for him."

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