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Re: What the Buoys are telling
« Reply #2250 on: September 14, 2021, 11:54:16 PM »
Milder air temps over 569620 at ~80N and a small up tick of bottom melt.
https://www.cryosphereinnovation.com/simb3/569620

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Re: What the Buoys are telling
« Reply #2251 on: September 15, 2021, 12:22:44 AM »
It's a tough environment for buoys right now above Banks Island where the ice has been strongly affected by winds out of the south. Note the ice east of Patrick Island forced to pivot from the differential advection. Click to animate.

443910 west of Banks appears to have recovered from its (mostly) surface anomaly. Bottom melt still above linear though. Thickness at 0.19m

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« Reply #2252 on: September 26, 2021, 10:52:38 PM »
A detailed look at SIMB3 569620 that is co-located with the new TOP2 buoy from WHOI. Both buoys report at roughly the same time every 4 hours so it is possible to compare and combine their data.
TOP buoys measure temperature and salinity from 1m to 200m depth at 1m intervals if the ice is thin enough. For now we are only looking at temperature.

First a comparison of roughly 3m temperatures

Drift path and animation with surface temperatures

Lastly an attempt to combine air, ice and water temps from the dtc chain on the SIMB3 with the TOP2 ocean temps from 1-200m

Ice surface is at 0m shown as a semi transparent straight line
Snow level in metres is shown above as a thicker white line.
Ice bottom in metres is light blue (aqua)
Water temperature from the SIMB3 is shown, for convenience, on the same scale in degrees C
Digital temperature chain values are shown on the right hand colour bar limited from -2.4C to -0.2C to highlight small differences in ice and water temp.
Air temps in dashed grey are shown on the right hand scale in degC

Looks like there is a date mismatch based on temperatures.
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Re: What the Buoys are telling
« Reply #2253 on: September 26, 2021, 11:24:46 PM »
Squashing the temperature range to focus on ice temperatures obscures the temperature of the warm Pacific layer which appears to peak at around +0.3C in this area. That layer looks very active and deserves a separate investigation, maybe tomorrow.

Overview of location using polarview S1
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Re: What the Buoys are telling
« Reply #2254 on: September 27, 2021, 11:32:16 AM »
443910 update, co-located with itp120.

Thickness dropped to 4-6cm from sep18-23. Seems unlikely that that will hold a 4m long buoy stable and looks like it slipped on sep19. Bottom distance appears to be stabilising with the lower surface temps since sep24.
Note that the two large changes in surface distance correlate with fast temperature drops. Freezing fog perhaps. Anecdotally I'm not seeing very good agreement with nullschool surface temps.
I calculate current thickness at 10.4cm. dtc not working so unable to look at ice temps.
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« Reply #2255 on: September 27, 2021, 11:34:50 AM »
itp120 ocean temps showing they drifted back over the Pacific layer

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« Reply #2256 on: September 27, 2021, 08:56:15 PM »
Going back to SIMB3 569620 and TOP2. As noticed previously, the SIMB3 timestamp may be 1day ahead. Something to do with this comment in the example code from https://www.cryosphereinnovation.com/articles/simb3-python

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Will have to check that. edit: There's no time difference with co-located itp127 using iabp data(image3)
Adjusting the dates fixes the mismatch in the temperature change but the sensor values differ  more than expected.

Animation of TOP2 temps, salinity and location
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« Reply #2257 on: September 28, 2021, 11:13:28 AM »
https://www.oc.nps.edu/~stanton/fluxbuoy/deploy/buoy48.html

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Assosciate Research Professor Tim Stanton and his research group have been funded to develop autonomous, ice-deployed drifting buoys capable of measuring vertical fluxes of momentum, heat and salt in the upper ocean in Polar regions, through the National Science Foundation, Office of Polar Programs "Polar Instrumentation and Technology Development" program. As the ocean provides a critical "thermal flywheel" in the Arctic heat balance on seasonal and longer time scales, accurate measurement of vertical heat fluxes through the upper ocean is critical in determining the balance between radiative and sensible heat fluxes at the ice surface, changes in ice cover, thickness and heat content, and ocean heat content which all interact over seasonal scales to maintain ice cover in the Arctic. The insulating properties of the Arctic ice cover largely decouple rapid, strong variations of surface heat fluxes from the ocean interior. Furthermore, since still water is also a very good insulator, the vertical transport of heat to and from the salt stratified ocean interior is determined primarily by the rate at which the upper ocean is stirred. This stirring occurs when wind blows over the ice and moves, forming a turbulent boundary layer extending down from the ice toward the stratified pycnocline, typically at 30m depth. The flux buoy measures these small net fluxes within the stirred "mixed" layer below the ice.

While direct measurement of local vertical fluxes has been regarded as difficult in the ocean, recent advances in high resolution, low-powered sensor technology, (particularly in current measurement), and the stable platform provided by the perennial ice pack, provide a path to measuring long term, unattended vertical fluxes within the upper ocean. Recent work by the PI in observing ocean fluxes during ANZFLUX and SHEBA have provided instrumentation and analysis experience which is being used with these new sensor technologies to robustly estimate fluxes in a remote instrument, without the luxury of having access to the raw data streams. The autonomous flux buoy uses a very low power acoustic travel time current sensor, a stable conductivity cell and a very high resolution thermistor to measure velocities, salinity and temperature in the same small volume within the ocean mixed layer. Correlating fluctuations of vertical velocity with horizontal velocity fluctuations, temperature fluctuations and salinity fluctuations provide estimates of the vertical transport of momentum, heat and salt through the ocean mixed layer (see for example, McPhee and Stanton, Turbulence in the statically unstable oceanic boundary layer under Arctic leads, Journal of geophysical Research, pp6409-6428, March 1996).

The primary scientific motivation for the flux buoys is to use them in conjunction with other autonomous, ocean, ice, and atmospheric observation systems to provide a means of studying changes in the Central Arctic Basin environment over long periods. The Long-Term Observations in Arctic program has yearly installations of automated instrumented buoys at the North Pole, including PMEL met buoys, a CREL ice flux buoy, and a JAMSTEC ice/ocean buoy. This collaboration immediately provides both vital logistics infrastructure and supporting surface flux and upper ocean structure measurements to provide a meaningful study of the heat / ice balance as the buoy cluster drifts through the Arctic Basin.


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aofb48 is shown as active on the website but latest data is sep19. Hopefully it's a server issue and not the buoy. It is co-located with whoi itp122, top4 and SIMB3 551610
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Re: What the Buoys are telling
« Reply #2258 on: September 28, 2021, 11:19:39 AM »

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Re: What the Buoys are telling
« Reply #2259 on: September 28, 2021, 08:15:31 PM »
SIMB3 551610 is co-located with whoi top4, itp122 and the flux buoy48 above.

Comparison of roughly 3m temps

whoi top4 drift

colour chart of 551610 and top4. The warm Pacific layer is more consistent in this drift path. I had thought it was mostly further south in the Beaufort. Ice is cooling faster from surface, possibly due to a thinner snow layer though the ice is thinner too.

top4 temps and salinity from whoi for comparison. Possible problem with the salinity sensor

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« Reply #2260 on: September 28, 2021, 10:43:25 PM »
I quietly lurk here uniquorn as im sure many other people do, keep up the great content
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Re: What the Buoys are telling
« Reply #2261 on: September 29, 2021, 01:05:22 AM »
DARPA Offers Prize for Algorithm That Can Accurately Predict Location of Drifters 10 Days Into the Future
https://www.darpa.mil/news-events/2021-09-24

The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency has launched a competition in search of technology that can predict the location of sea drifters or floats in a prospect of 10 days.

DARPA said Friday its Forecasting Floats in Turbulence challenge will task participants to develop and submit algorithms that can predict drifting locations based on the ocean’s current.

FTT supports DARPA's Ocean of Things program, which aims to generate maritime situational awareness via floats drifting across the ocean.

https://www.darpa.mil/program/ocean-of-things

Here’s how the competition will work: Starting with a training data set, DARPA will provide 20-days’ worth of historical drift data from a field of commercially available Spotters produced by Sofar Ocean, a performer on Ocean of Things. With roughly 90 Spotters circulating in the Atlantic, and 20 days of data, participants will need to train their algorithm or technique to predict where these spotters will be in 10 days.

DARPA will award a total of $50,000 in the FFT challenge: $25,000 for first place, $15,000 for second place, and $10,000 for third place.

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Sofar and DARPA Look to Standardize Ocean Monitoring Gadgets With Bristlemouth
https://techcrunch.com/2021/09/23/sofar-and-darpa-look-to-standardize-ocean-monitoring-devices-with-bristlemouth/

The ocean is important to countless industries, but we still only have a rough idea of what it’s like as a whole at any given time. To foster a new generation of ocean-monitoring floats and other devices, Sofar Ocean Technologies and DARPA are publishing an open hardware standard called Bristlemouth so that researchers will have an off-the-shelf option rather than wasting their precious grant dollars solving the same engineering problems from scratch

https://www.bristlemouth.org/

The lack of a hardware connectivity standard is a huge hindrance to development and innovation. Today, a large portion of budgets allocated to development of new ocean technologies are spent toward resolving fundamental technical bottlenecks — power, data and communications connectivity — rather than on actual ocean innovation,” Shapiro told TechCrunch.

It’s very similar to the way space companies have begun to coalesce around the idea of a few standard buses and spacecraft. If you want to observe space dust or measure radiation outside the atmosphere or some other research goal, you want to spend your time and money on those instruments, not on building a spacecraft. Just as Rocket Lab and others are betting people would rather buy and customize a standard spacecraft than reinvent the wheel, Sofar thinks researchers focusing on the ocean would prefer to focus on their key technologies.



https://www.bristlemouth.org/technology
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« Reply #2262 on: September 29, 2021, 12:06:45 PM »
I can guess where this one is going though gps seems to be struggling a bit.
Argo 6904087, +2C at 6m depth on sep27

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« Reply #2263 on: September 29, 2021, 12:16:14 PM »
6901934 is a bit more difficult. It could go east or west from there, depending on the depth.

+0.427C at 2.8m, sep27.  A bit cooler closer to the ice edge and the east greenland current.
https://fleetmonitoring.euro-argo.eu/float/6901934
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« Reply #2264 on: September 29, 2021, 12:26:20 PM »
A first look at TOP4 and TOP2 1m-7m temps with the same data from up thread. Static charts. WHOI appear to have phased in rising to 2m and 1m.

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« Reply #2265 on: October 01, 2021, 10:39:03 PM »
update on SIMB3 052460, north Chukchi.
https://www.cryosphereinnovation.com/simb3/052460

Ice surrounding it appeared to melt out completely on sep4. Since then it looks like it floated freely till sep11 when it bumped into some thicker ice. It could be it just bobbed about in its own bottomless melt pond for that time. Note that surface and bottom distance are fairly constant.

From sep11-26 we see a variable increase in thickness to 1.55m, mostly from reduction in bottom distance. Possibly a lot of ridging or the buoy working its way into the side of an existing floe (or your suggestion ;)  )

Since sep27 temps have dropped to -5C, then -8C (see fig3 or 4, dashed grey). Ice temps have started cooling from surface but the lower majority is still at water temp so rapid refreeze to that depth seems unlikely.

fig4 is perhaps a more intuitive colour scheme, showing the full temp range from -8C to +2C but this doesn't show the small differences in ocean and ice temperature.


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« Reply #2266 on: October 01, 2021, 11:11:24 PM »
To take the analysis a step further we take a look at surface conditions modelled by nullschool since June, which also offers an opportunity to compare measured buoy temperatures with the model over a long period of time. If they are assimilating buoy data they should be close.
Buoy data is easily accessible from the link above, nullschool data can be read using optical character recognition, OCR, from the images. My first attempts have been reasonable but need too many corrections.

Nullshool wind and temps at surface for 052460, jun1-oct1, every 4hrs.  6.5mb

Thickness chart from jun

OCR attempt using a9t9

Best effort at cleaned up temps as 28by27 matrix of 735 temps since jun1.
I can provide text file if anyone would like to correct it. Probably easier to edit in the OCR software.


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Re: What the Buoys are telling
« Reply #2267 on: October 01, 2021, 11:32:37 PM »
bearing and temps in case anyone would like to look at modelled wind effect on drift.
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« Reply #2268 on: October 02, 2021, 01:46:46 AM »
6904087 surfaced again in the WSC, now north of FJL
https://fleetmonitoring.euro-argo.eu/float/6904087

1.8C at 6m on sep30
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Re: What the Buoys are telling
« Reply #2269 on: October 02, 2021, 09:34:41 AM »
bearing and temps in case anyone would like to look at modelled wind effect on drift.

Using OCR to extract that information is certainly impressive. However wouldn't it be easier to go direct to the underlying gridded data?

Wind nowcast and forecast are available in the WaveWatch data my scripts download on a regular basis. Big files mind you!
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« Reply #2270 on: October 02, 2021, 10:39:53 AM »
Jim, I'd be interested to see how your method compares and a quick how to. It looks like another steep learning curve.

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try ‘desaturate lightness’ in color menu since original had some orangeish.

then pick pure white with radius 20 to avoid some of the isolated noisy single light pixels, inverting selection and darkening with ‘levels’ in color menu.

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« Reply #2271 on: October 02, 2021, 10:56:45 AM »
The glitches in the GFS surface temp are caused by the buoy data latlon's at 0,0

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« Reply #2272 on: October 02, 2021, 11:15:13 AM »
Jim, I'd be interested to see how your method compares and a quick how to.

It will have to be very quick. 25 hour days would be handy at the moment!

WaveWatch is now merged into GFS. No doubt all sorts of other useful info can be had, but I currently just get wave data for visualisation in Panoply from:

ftp://ftpprd.ncep.noaa.gov/pub/data/nccf/com/gfs/prod/gfs.YYYYMMDD/CC/wave/gridded

Replace caps as desired. Download Arctic NetCDF data file. Read using SciPy etc. Do whatever you want with the wind U & V fields.

P.S. Just for fun I'm currently downloading a 7+ Gb "atmos" .NC file!

P.P.S. Panoply seems to cope OK with the 127 atmospheric levels:
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« Reply #2273 on: October 02, 2021, 05:09:03 PM »
Thanks Jim, data only goes back to sep23 (rolling 10 days?) and is every 6hrs. Nullschool must be interpolating their hourly data.

Possibly bad news. WHOI TOP4's last profile was mid day sep30. Can use ITP127 instead but we lose the data from 1m-7m

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« Reply #2274 on: October 02, 2021, 05:51:20 PM »
Data only goes back to sep23 (rolling 10 days?)

Hence my scripts! This alternative claims to have 30 days rolling data available:

https://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/products/gfs/#GFS

Beyond that start looking at "reanalysis" products?
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« Reply #2275 on: October 02, 2021, 05:58:09 PM »
Comparison of TOP2 and TOP4 while they are still similar end dates

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« Reply #2276 on: October 03, 2021, 05:23:22 PM »
A closer look at WHOI TOP4 temperatures from 1m-27m, just above the warm pacific layer. The temperature range has been squashed very tight from -1.52C to -1.45C.

Note that these temps differ significantly at this resolution from the 1m-3m temps reported by the SIMB3 551610. From the colour chart in the previous post we can see dtc1 at 1m above the ice surface so 1m below should be dtc100, 2m at dtc150 and nearest to 3m is dtc191 (2cm between each thermistor). The water temp thermistor is located with the bottom sounder, also at ~3m depth.

I wonder which is correct?

tech note: python interpolation causes a slight mismatch with the scale at 1m-3m where there is no data above

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« Reply #2277 on: October 03, 2021, 09:06:59 PM »
Float 6903705 just south of Svalbard used the ice detection algo to stay submerged from dec3 to jul25 (cycle 33-80)

At 200m it didn't drift far during that time but has picked up speed in an easterly direction recently. Cycle92 reported SST just over 2C.
Cycle93 has 1.93C at 4.4m depth.
https://fleetmonitoring.euro-argo.eu/float/6903705

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« Reply #2278 on: October 04, 2021, 12:56:23 PM »
Checking the specifications for both buoys, I'm going to use the SB41 to calibrate the SIMB3 551610 temps and adjust the dtc's upwards 0.175C and the water temp sensor up 0.25C

SB41 on TOP4 is pre calibrated and accurate to  ±0.002C
SIMB3 is accurate to  ±0.5C

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Re: What the Buoys are telling
« Reply #2279 on: October 05, 2021, 09:17:51 PM »
Comparison of 1m-27m temps of whoi top3 and top4. Temperature scale adjusted slightly to accommodate cooler temps for top3. Both from -1.6C to -1.4C.

First impression is that the shallower warm Pacific layer makes a small difference to near surface temps.

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« Reply #2280 on: October 05, 2021, 09:32:22 PM »
At 40m-50m, top4 is also a lot warmer

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« Reply #2281 on: October 06, 2021, 09:32:08 PM »
TOP2 is back :)
https://www2.whoi.edu/site/itp/data/active-systems/top-02/

edit: 569620 dtc values are also low by about 0.165C
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« Reply #2282 on: January 11, 2022, 02:16:28 AM »
Outsider Wins DARPA Challenge to Predict Where Floats Drift at Sea
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2303899-outsider-wins-darpa-challenge-to-predict-where-floats-drift-at-sea/

A satellite engineer with no background in oceanography has won an international competition to predict where a “message in a bottle” will drift to on the open sea.

Chris Wasson, who is based in southern California, beat 31 teams to scoop the $25,000 top prize in the Forecasting Floats in Turbulence Challenge, organised by the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA).

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2296538-us-military-offers-50000-to-predict-where-sensors-drift-in-the-ocean/

“I don’t have any real background in oceanography or weather system forecasting, but the problem was stated as more data- and algorithms-oriented,” says Wasson.

Related: https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,327.msg322802.html#msg322802
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« Reply #2283 on: August 17, 2023, 02:31:15 AM »
New Research Provides Unprecedented Look at What Influences Sea Ice Motion In the Arctic
https://phys.org/news/2023-08-unprecedented-sea-ice-motion-arctic.html

A new study led by researchers at Brown University offers fresh insights into the forces above and beneath the ocean surface that influence how sea ice moves and disperses in the Arctic Ocean, which is warming at over twice the rate of the global average.



The in-depth analysis reveals how local tidal currents strongly affect the movement of the ice along its journey and provides an unprecedented look at how the makeup of the sea floor is causing some of the most abrupt changes.

Data from the study can be applied to improve complex computer simulations used for forecasting Arctic sea ice conditions, and in the long-term, the results may help clarify how climate change is altering the Arctic and inform future climate predictions.

"The ice is clearly feeling the influence of the bottom of the ocean," said Daniel Watkins, a postdoctoral researcher at Brown and lead author of the new study published in Geophysical Research Letters. "The landscape at the ocean floor, like canyons and continental shelves, affects tides and other ocean currents. And as it drifts, the sea ice passes over many different undersea features. We see sharp changes in the dynamics of the sea ice as soon as it gets to those undersea features."

Using data from the largest ever drifting sea-ice buoy array, along with 20 years of satellite images, the researchers examined sea ice motion as it drifted from the Arctic Ocean through a deep-water passage called the Fram Strait and eventually into the Greenland Sea. The analysis revealed the sea floor's impact on some of the most abrupt changes affecting the sea ice, like dramatic gains in speed or motions that force the ice to pack in close together or even break apart.



"What we see with this data set is a transition from the central Arctic, where the ice is mostly moving as a whole and following wind patterns, to areas where we're seeing much stronger impacts of ocean currents," Watkins said.

... The study is based on GPS data transmitted from a set of 108 of the buoys that drifted from the central Arctic through the Fram Strait and into the Greenland Sea.

The major focus was on what are known as marginal ice zones in the Greenland Sea and Fram Strait, which is the transition zone between the open, ice-free ocean and the pack ice of the central Arctic.

As part of their analysis, the group also analyzed satellite measurements taken from 2003 to 2020 to put the data the buoys gathered over the year adrift into historical context. The satellite data helped confirm sharp changes in ice velocity and ice motion that could only be explained by the sea floor's influence on the sea ice.

For instance, looking at the data from an area northeast of Svalbard, Norway, the researchers noticed the speed of the ice suddenly increased even though the wind hadn't changed. That meant the ice was getting pushed by the ocean currents, so the team delved deeper to find where this happens and how.

They found that the sea ice speeds up where the Transpolar Drift Stream, one of the Arctic's Ocean major currents, ends and the fast-moving East Greenland Current, which forms due to a combination of Earth's rotation and the edge of the continental shelf on the sea floor, begins. The analysis shows how the sea ice responds to different ocean currents and that the sea floor plays a role.

"In the beginning of this journey, there was almost no difference in the drift speed across the whole set of buoys," Watkins said. "Then there's essentially one day where the wind died down and the ice ran into that boundary current and it just took off. It was like a one-day-to-the-next change in what was pushing the ice."

Daniel M. Watkins et al, Evidence of Abrupt Transitions Between Sea Ice Dynamical Regimes in the East Greenland Marginal Ice Zone, Geophysical Research Letters (2023)
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2023GL103558
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