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Re: Northern Hemisphere Winter 2018-2019 Snowcover / Misc Obs
« Reply #450 on: June 30, 2019, 06:30:40 AM »
I'll agree about your weather forecasts.  ;)
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Re: Northern Hemisphere Winter 2018-2019 Snowcover / Misc Obs
« Reply #451 on: July 01, 2019, 12:50:12 PM »
I think this is my last post on this thread - not a lot of snow left to talk about.

Click to watch North America snow melt .
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Re: Northern Hemisphere Winter 2018-2019 Snowcover / Misc Obs
« Reply #452 on: July 01, 2019, 06:31:12 PM »
Hey, I can see maybe 4 white pixels in north Quebec at the end.  You quitter, you!  >:( :o ::)
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Re: Northern Hemisphere Winter 2018-2019 Snowcover / Misc Obs
« Reply #453 on: July 04, 2019, 09:28:32 PM »
Hey, I can see maybe 4 white pixels in north Quebec at the end.  You quitter, you!  >:( :o ::)


Next season Please notice the boundary between Quebec and Newfoundland & Labrador.
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Re: Northern Hemisphere Winter 2018-2019 Snowcover / Misc Obs
« Reply #454 on: July 04, 2019, 10:28:07 PM »
I'm moderately familiar with where the Quebec-Newfoundland boundary is, (and, in alignment with your plea, plan to retain that familiarity).  The white pixels I see (dare I say I see about 6 now) are definitely within Quebec, along the coast near the Hudson Strait and at the northernmost point of the province.  Except right along the NL border, no place for a glacier to hide, grow or bare grudges (and the grudges belong to the border region).
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Re: Northern Hemisphere Winter 2018-2019 Snowcover / Misc Obs
« Reply #455 on: July 05, 2019, 09:04:21 PM »
There is still snow in the Torngats as of 7/4. The last good EOSDIS image was 6/29 but the situation is mostly unchanged. It will endure substantial or total melt, but it is certainly still there.


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Re: Northern Hemisphere Winter 2018-2019 Snowcover / Misc Obs
« Reply #456 on: July 05, 2019, 09:41:56 PM »
The Torngat mountain range has at least 120 glaciers. Doesn't the presence of these glaciers suggest that snow surviving through the summer is a regular occurrence?

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Re: Northern Hemisphere Winter 2018-2019 Snowcover / Misc Obs
« Reply #457 on: July 05, 2019, 09:58:04 PM »
The Torngat mountain range has at least 120 glaciers. Doesn't the presence of these glaciers suggest that snow surviving through the summer is a regular occurrence?
They are not visible on satellite. Most years, 2018 excepted, all the visible snow melted.

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Re: Northern Hemisphere Winter 2018-2019 Snowcover / Misc Obs
« Reply #458 on: July 05, 2019, 10:01:17 PM »
My guess is that this year, snow or no snow, those 120 glaciers will enter winter in worse shape than  the year before..

The border twixt NL and Quebec is the crest of the mountain chain? So whose got the most glaciers?
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Re: Northern Hemisphere Winter 2018-2019 Snowcover / Misc Obs
« Reply #459 on: July 06, 2019, 04:18:22 PM »
This study reckons 11 small glaciers in the Torngats vanished between the LIA and 2005.

 

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Re: Northern Hemisphere Winter 2018-2019 Snowcover / Misc Obs
« Reply #460 on: July 06, 2019, 04:22:57 PM »
The Rutgers NH snow cover extent for June 2019 was 5.94 million km2.

This represents a negative departure of -3.48 million, just slightly less than 2016's large departure of -3.84 million.

Extent was below normal in practically all geographic areas.

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Re: Northern Hemisphere Winter 2018-2019 Snowcover / Misc Obs
« Reply #461 on: July 06, 2019, 05:24:30 PM »
11 small glaciers in the Torngats vanished between the LIA and 2005.
Yep, but surely 14 years is a long time when it comes to these small mountain glaciers in marginal climes. bbr's contention is that in recent years AGW is causing a cold spot to develop in NE Canada - more snow and potential for glaciers to grow.

But without up-to-date field studies ..........
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Re: Northern Hemisphere Winter 2018-2019 Snowcover / Misc Obs
« Reply #462 on: July 07, 2019, 11:51:16 AM »
Hey, I can see maybe 4 white pixels in north Quebec at the end.  You quitter, you!  >:( :o ::)

OK, the insult worked. Just for you a gif. Needs a click.
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Re: Northern Hemisphere Winter 2018-2019 Snowcover / Misc Obs
« Reply #463 on: July 07, 2019, 12:17:51 PM »
I will play it only once

* b_lumenkraft *cmd+r, cmd+r, cmd+r, cmd+r, cmd+r, cmd+r, cmd+r, cmd+r*

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Re: Northern Hemisphere Winter 2018-2019 Snowcover / Misc Obs
« Reply #464 on: July 07, 2019, 01:31:12 PM »
I will play it only once

* b_lumenkraft *cmd+r, cmd+r, cmd+r, cmd+r, cmd+r, cmd+r, cmd+r, cmd+r*

I cannot get it to play again even by refreshing or opening the attachment again. What black magic is this?

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Re: Northern Hemisphere Winter 2018-2019 Snowcover / Misc Obs
« Reply #465 on: July 07, 2019, 01:41:59 PM »
I will play it only once

* b_lumenkraft *cmd+r, cmd+r, cmd+r, cmd+r, cmd+r, cmd+r, cmd+r, cmd+r*

I cannot get it to play again even by refreshing or opening the attachment again. What black magic is this?
Dunno.
I just wander down the thread, click the image and bingo.
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Re: Northern Hemisphere Winter 2018-2019 Snowcover / Misc Obs
« Reply #466 on: July 07, 2019, 07:32:43 PM »
Fortunately, I enlarged Quebec to count pixels before being shut out of the GIF.  Only 2 white ones in the province, now, and one of them on the mid-bay coast.
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Re: Northern Hemisphere Winter 2018-2019 Snowcover / Misc Obs
« Reply #467 on: July 07, 2019, 07:43:37 PM »
Fortunately, I enlarged Quebec to count pixels before being shut out of the GIF.  Only 2 white ones in the province, now, and one of them on the mid-bay coast.
I used the gif with changes on the melting thread.
So if you want to count some other pixels here it is.

https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,2591.msg211606.html#msg211606

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Re: Northern Hemisphere Winter 2018-2019 Snowcover / Misc Obs
« Reply #468 on: July 08, 2019, 01:47:46 AM »
I'm moderately familiar with where the Quebec-Newfoundland boundary is, (and, in alignment with your plea, plan to retain that familiarity).  The white pixels I see (dare I say I see about 6 now) are definitely within Quebec, along the coast near the Hudson Strait and at the northernmost point of the province.  Except right along the NL border, no place for a glacier to hide, grow or bare grudges (and the grudges belong to the border region).


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Huge apologies Tor.


'Twas another that had driven me to madness by continuously conflating late spring ice lingering in Labrador with permanent glacial growth in Quebec. When you mentioned lingering ice in Quebec I lashed out, and blinded by my rage failed to notice whom I was flailing away at.


Sincerely Sorry for my Error
Contritely Yours
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Re: Northern Hemisphere Winter 2018-2019 Snowcover / Misc Obs
« Reply #469 on: July 08, 2019, 02:42:22 AM »
I, too, was irked  :)
I've been to Quebec (Expo 67), Ontario and two Maritime Provinces, but not very far north in the east, and not to Newfoundland and Labrador.  Traveling to Lake Huron's Georgian Bay seemed "far north" to me at the time!  I took a bus from Fairbanks, AK to Whitehorse, YT once (and bus/train to Skagway, AK), and have seen some of Alberta and British Columbia (Vancouver Island and up to Price Rupert, even Houston, BC).  I just learned, thanks to the internet, that Newfoundland changed its name in 2001; when I was a student 'learning things', Labrador was 'just' the big island part of Newfoundland. 

A graduate supervisor, however, did his PhD field work in Labrador (and I heard insect stories from him) and a friend spent a pleasant several days with a family in Gander in September 2001, an unexpected stay by all several thousand passengers in a similar happenstance.

I've seen snow fall in Alaska (August!), but none in Canada.  Does it even snow there? :o ::) :P
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Re: Northern Hemisphere Winter 2018-2019 Snowcover / Misc Obs
« Reply #470 on: July 08, 2019, 06:00:57 AM »
Tor
Locally we still get some snow, but the river no longer regularly freezes over.


On the coasts of Labrador the raised beaches stretch hundreds of feet up the headlands which are still rebounding from the the melt of the last ice age.


The Harbor at L'Anse Aux Meadows in Newfoundland has apparently lost 5 meters in depth since the Vikings were there ~1M ago, and the sea is still receding.


The most shocking thing may be the retreat of the Athabasca Glacier between Banff and Jasper. It must have melted back miles since I first saw it some decades ago.
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« Reply #471 on: July 08, 2019, 06:16:09 AM »
My mom always used "M" to be "1,000 x", as it is a Roman Numeral. 

Ah, the glaciers I don't want to see again, as if I might recognize them.  I grew up with a water color of Lake Louise, but I don't recall if we went there when I was 10.
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« Reply #472 on: July 10, 2019, 02:22:37 AM »
My mom always used "M" to be "1,000 x", as it is a Roman Numeral. 

Ah, the glaciers I don't want to see again, as if I might recognize them.  I grew up with a water color of Lake Louise, but I don't recall if we went there when I was 10.
Perhaps the use of "M" is a generational thing?


The color of the water in Lake Louis, and many other glacier fed lakes is too green to appear real. I've plenty of photos, but would hate to attempt painting it lest every viewer thought I was seeing the world through green hued lenses.  :-\
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