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Any idea how many additional kWhs the Teslas will require for the round trip?
How many additional kWh do you suggest I add for each Tesla? - I'll be happy to incorporate whatever figure you suggest.
Terry
MPG and MPGe have already been measured for every car. Why not just use them? Is it perhaps because those numbers invalidate your argument?
Was this meant as a response to my offer?
You're a great poster whom I've followed for years, but it's becoming increasingly difficult for me to interact with you when the subject involves EV's, Tesla or anything involving Musk.
I don't try for cheap shots or spewing skewed data. I do try to stay on topic & can be pedantic when I think I'm not understood. - but you know this as we've been reading each other's posts for a long time.
I don't claim that driving a 5 year old VW from Las Vegas to LA and back is cheaper than driving a Tesla.
I don't claim that driving the route in a VW uses less CO2 than driving it in a Tesla - in fact I make the assumption that the Tesla is responsible for
zero emissions.
I have found - and I'm quite certain that I've proven that a 5 year old VW doesn't cost much more to drive back and forth than a Tesla, measured in dollars or CO2.
With unlimited funds the Tesla wins hands down. For those that care about money as well as CO2 the decision is more nuanced, and most of us fall in this category.
I believe I've also proven that if you're willing to take two friends along in the Tesla,
and you all unplug your homes while you're gone, your emissions will will zero out, and just to reiterate
zero is what I've charged to the Tesla side of the ledger.
The VW is more expensive to operate than the Tesla - my point is simply that the difference isn't large, and that
it can be offset fairly painlessly.
If I offered to install a gas water heater for $500.
A state of the art solar-thermal system with a very large storage tank for $5,000
or a solar pre-heater for $200
Which would be the "best" system?
It's going to depend on how deep your pockets are, how clean you intend to keep things and how much you're willing to spend to squeeze the last drop of CO2 from an already very clean system.
Our scenario isn't too far different.
A new Model 3 that's almost pure.
A new super high mileage gas squeezer that spews some CO2.
Or a very reasonable 5 year old VW that's not too far away from either of the others?
I've been illustrating the difference between the 1st and 3d options, and pointing out how close together they actually are.
Given the facts people will make their own decisions.
I know what I'll advise my friend to do - but her priorities may not jibe with mine.
Cheers
Terry