Sig, it is rarely worth arguing with GSY about the profitability or demise of Tesla. Time is the best cure there. As I said at the end of 2018.
Reality is that Tesla has more important things to do than create artificial profits for shareholders. Shares, for Tesla, are a long term thing. All the profit is made with the convertible bonds. Which, I note, Tesla pays off regularly with no hint of default.
Tesla has far too much going on to be focused on making shareholders happy short term. Meanwhile the shorts are making the convertible bonds extremely profitable. Personally I would investigate the shorts to see if they are manipulating the stock price in order to make a solid profit on the bonds. But I have a bad mind.
Tesla, right now, is in business ramp up, new market entry and service creation. All of which points to a solid company. In fact, when Tesla starts making profits constantly, it will be around $100bn or more in sales and services and profits will be commensurate.
Hence my point about static (or declining), losses for massive increases in sales. You cannot have both. If the fundamental manufacturing and support process is unprofitable, then the more you sell, the more you will lose. I keep pointing this out and GSY keeps on ignoring it.
Tesla, to date, is growing sales, infrastructure and world market share. What it is not growing are expansion linked losses.
Musk has just tweeted that they are going for 100k deliveries this month. There is no way that is even remotely possible if they are not currently around 95k delivered.
The insurance service is live, but the lions share of setting that up was borne in Q2; Q3 profits will not be impacted so much. It will, however, benefit from the revenue.
Bigger "Tesla is failing" killers to come in Q4,:
Giga3 manufacturing and deliveries
More FSD revenue from the V10 software
FCA EU zero emissions credits (remember those, estimated at $2bn and all profit)
Slow ramp up with energy
We were here a year ago listening to the demise of a company which was clearly completing its chrysalis from start up to fully fledged manufacturer.
We will be here next year discussing where Tesla is in the EV world, not presiding over its funeral.