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« Reply #50 on: April 12, 2019, 06:37:08 AM »
Right on cue: Ohio gov DeWine signs nations most restrictive abortion law

"ban abortions after a fetal heartbeat is detected and prosecute doctors who perform them anyway. A fetal heartbeat can be detected as early as six weeks into a woman's pregnancy, which can be before a woman finds out she's pregnant."

"an exception to save the life of the woman but no exception for rape or incest "

Even Kasich wouldn't: "Former Gov. John Kasich vetoed the abortion ban twice"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/04/11/ohio-governor-expected-sign-heartbeat-abortion-bill/3437747002/

DeWine never met a woman's body he didn't wanna control. I been watching him forawhile, there were disturbing signs pretty early in his career.

This will go to the Supremes, lets see if Roe vs Wade stands. A lot of women whom I know seriously think it might be overturned. The younger ones are considering emigration, the older are advising their daughters to do so.

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« Reply #51 on: April 12, 2019, 09:12:19 AM »
A video every American should watch!

The Founding Fathers Were Progressive


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« Reply #52 on: April 12, 2019, 10:15:32 AM »
So I can expect Rachel Maddow to presenting the same kind of historical information sometime soon, and cheering on AOC, Sanders and Gabbard. LOL

OK may I say this is all old news, and therein lays the problem doesn't it. For Adam Smith the libertarian neo-liberal hero was also a rabid Progressive most keen on appropriate Regulation in economic life, progressive taxation, social goods, and income / wealth equality sharing the fruits of the land of the nation as far is feasible by Principle.

His so-called clarion cry of "the invisible hand of the market" was used twice in all his writings, and that's it. The key being "AS IF" meaning there really is no invisible hand it all depends on how the SYSTEM is constructed, and then fair and equitable markets, accessible by all people and not only the few, could operate "as if" there was this invisible hand at work ... even though there isn't!!! Those "free markets" were in fact being designed on Principles with particular INTENT to achieve a Just Ends, and not the winner take all edict! 

Good luck educating the neo-liberal cultists resident here their whole Faith is founded upon lies and manipulations. Money alone can afford high levels of Propaganda to win the day. :)

AS an add-on people should be mindful of two things. Most of the founding fathers and early politicians, the best among them, were first and foremost Freemasons .. and not fundamentalist Christians. The Constitution etc was primarily based on sound centuries old universal Freemason Principles - it's as clear as day. They played the long game and were pragmatic folks. But do not tell the Baptists that!

Secondly, it;s strangely hypocritical of all Americans and their politicians who once illegally engaging in War Crimes, would then demand that before handing over Iraq to her people that they must first of all write a new Democratic Constitution following the principles of the Rule of Law and the Separation of Powers and then demand have it Voted upon by all the people of age in the country.

It's odd because at no time has their been held a national Vote by the People on the US Constitution. Not once, not ever.

Furthermore not once has there been a popular Vote by the People to Amend said Constitution. 

eg the American people did NOT vote to end slavery by validating the 16th Amendment. The Politicians did that, not the People en mass by a national Majority of people and a Majority of States. No one Voted to limit Presidential terms to two. An egregious imposition upon political freedom, an annulment of basic Human Rights, plus anti-democratic and prima facie Unconstitutional in and of itself.

Ah, but the poor people have been conned yet again and believe this is brilliant, so "rational and ethical and just" when it is the complete opposite of those things.

So given the American people have never not once ever been able to Vote for or against their Constitution and it's Amendments, then how on earth can they dare claim to be a Government of The People, for the People and by the People?

When almost every person in every other nation on this earth posses such rights and privileges?

The existing Constitution and it's system of Governance and Electoral matters enshrined in the Constitution are one of the key reasons why America is a shit show today.

It's not going to improve. Even if a Bernie sanders became President it will not and cannot improve nor change course. Despite a few exceptions the entire nation is both ignorant and asleep. For that is the only place where one can see the American Dream.
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« Reply #53 on: April 12, 2019, 10:23:30 AM »
Adam Smith the libertarian neo-liberal hero was also a rapid Progressive

Correct!

What tells us that? Neo-liberals don't read books (well at least not Wealth of Nations). If they would they'd know about this fact.

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« Reply #54 on: April 12, 2019, 11:38:18 AM »
I was taught that the Founding Fathers when considering the Constitution considered the role of Monarchs and the role of religion in propping up Monarchies, especially the final years of the Monarchy and the influence of the Catholic hierarchy in France before the French Revolution.
(The argument with perfidious Albion and King George was very much more about how the colonists were denied the basic liberties enjoyed by the average Brit in the UK). So having booted out the Brits they were looking for safeguards to prevent the future rise of either a secular or religious dictatorship.

Unfortunately, Congress has given away vast powers to the Executive, and religion has crept** into the infrastructure, to the extent that the Texas legislature is now considering a bill to make abortion the crime of homicide. And, of course, "the invisible hand of the free market" largely determines who is elected, who is not, who is bought and who is sold. (This includes senior officials - even Eisenhower warned against the military-industrial complex.)

The UK will do its best to catch up - though it will be a really cheap and nasty version.

When I was a young man, the USA was the place I wanted to be, Vietnam, Civil Rights and all. Now ?  No, thankyou.
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« Reply #55 on: April 12, 2019, 01:52:57 PM »




... the word God doesn't appear
anywhere in the US Constitution and
the only references to religion in the
Constitution are actually to limit
religions influence on the government.


The First Amendment as many of you know
guarantees that quote "Congress shall
make no law respecting an establishment
of religion or prohibiting the free exercise
thereof."


Not quite.  It was intended to prevent the government from imposing any particular religious belief on the people.  It would be virtually impossible to remove religious influences completely, because many of those in power have certain beliefs that influence their thinking.  The central idea was not to stem these ideas, but rather to prevent one person's beliefs from becoming the law of the land (i.e. many European nations).  The idea was to allow any individual to practice their own religion freely, within repercussion from the state.  The separation, which Thomas Jefferson stated, was intended to proceed in one direction (from the central government to the people).  The people would always be able to mold the government, as long as they refrained from imposing certain beliefs on others.  Consequently, any religious figure could seek public office.  There is no litmus test, except that imposed by the voters. 

Regarding the founding fathers, several were deists.  However, most were Christian.  Very few were Catholic or Baptist.  Indeed, it was the Baptists who prompted Jefferson to make his famous declaration about the separation, as they feared that their religion would be discriminated against in the nearly formed nation. 

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« Reply #56 on: April 12, 2019, 02:16:58 PM »

prevent the government from imposing any particular religious belief
vs.
are actually to limit religious influence on the government

I don't follow Kat. What's the difference? IMHO those both describe the word 'secularism'.

I mean, a religious politician can indeed propose a secular law. It might be influenced by religious beliefs, but if it's outcome is secular, i don't see how they contradict.

For example, outlawing thievery is stated in the Bible, but it 's also clearly a result of the categoric imperative.

Of course, once you have freedom of religion, you will also have religious people in the government.

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« Reply #57 on: April 12, 2019, 03:38:52 PM »

prevent the government from imposing any particular religious belief
vs.
are actually to limit religious influence on the government

I don't follow Kat. What's the difference? IMHO those both describe the word 'secularism'.

I mean, a religious politician can indeed propose a secular law. It might be influenced by religious beliefs, but if it's outcome is secular, i don't see how they contradict.

For example, outlawing thievery is stated in the Bible, but it 's also clearly a result of the categoric imperative.

Of course, once you have freedom of religion, you will also have religious people in the government.

It is not a matter of contradiction.  Rather, the wall of separation is one way, and rather explicit.  Congress shall make no law ...  Throughout the years, many people have tried to expand this to all other areas of government.  Sometimes they have been successful, other times not.   It depends on how the courts feel at the time.


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« Reply #58 on: April 14, 2019, 03:06:05 PM »
There's no room for racism or classism in these matters that can lead to a good outcome. Peace must be born of Justice. Justice can only come by true Fraternity, in a broad sense of Brotherhood. Where my country is the world; and my fellow citizens are all humankind.

Enlightened souls have long been calling to remove the causes of War; all selfish seeking; all aggression by any nation upon the rights of others must cease. Peace can only come from the growth of wisdom, by enlightenment in the foundation principles of justice, love and truth.

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« Reply #59 on: April 15, 2019, 10:58:21 AM »
I had a funny thought.

Not so funny at all. Americans are made believe the Russian interference in the 2016 US elections was something extraordinary. In fact, it's the most normal thing in the world. It has happened all the time throughout history.

Let's look into the history books and see what Trump did to support Netanyahu for example. Oh wait, this is not yet printed. But the internet has it.

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« Reply #60 on: April 15, 2019, 11:50:40 PM »
Trump outraises everybody:

"raised more than $30 million in the first quarter of 2019, edging out his top two Democratic rivals combined"

" nearly 99% of its donations were of $200 or less, with an average donation of $34.26."

"Together, the Trump entities have raised a combined $165.5 million "

"more than 1 million new online donors since Trump's inauguration"

https://news.yahoo.com/apnewsbreak-trump-campaign-report-raising-30-million-230159575--election.html

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« Reply #61 on: April 16, 2019, 12:04:35 AM »
My goodness, is this real or fake news?
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« Reply #62 on: April 16, 2019, 12:45:22 AM »
My goodness, is this real or fake news?
Unless the stock market crashes he is going to win easily in 2020 (IMO). The perceived state of the economy is literally all that matters.

If it crashes, Buttigieg could win, and handily.

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« Reply #63 on: April 16, 2019, 12:55:11 AM »
My goodness, is this real or fake news?
Unless the stock market crashes he is going to win easily in 2020 (IMO). The perceived state of the economy is literally all that matters.

If it crashes, Buttigieg could win, and handily.

I fear you are correct.  Biden probably has the best chance to dethrone him, but many in the party are hell bent on stopping him.

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« Reply #64 on: April 16, 2019, 08:20:16 AM »
This Emerson poll paints a different picture.

Bernie Sanders Pulling Ahead 2020 Democratic Primary Poll Nationally - Pete Buttigieg Surging


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« Reply #65 on: April 16, 2019, 08:48:58 AM »
Bret Baier just polled the Bernie Town Hall audience who would be willing to switch to #MedicareForAll. It backfired spectacularly.

Link >> https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1117924843746361345

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« Reply #66 on: April 16, 2019, 10:10:05 AM »
Well, hello there: repub primary challenge for trump

"Former Massachusetts Governor Bill Weld has become the first Republican to challenge Mr Trump in 2020."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47943555

I don't think the guy has a chance, Kasich had a better one but he already disclaimed.

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« Reply #67 on: April 16, 2019, 12:40:50 PM »
 :)

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« Reply #68 on: April 16, 2019, 02:21:08 PM »
This Emerson poll paints a different picture.


The Emerson poll is the one outlier; it consistently has Sanders outperforming Biden.  The Morning consult pols over the past month have Biden leading by 8-10 pts.  CNN and Fox News both had Biden ahead by 8.  Quinnipiac showed a 10 pt Biden advantage.  The recent Hill/Harris poll came with the biggest lead for Biden at 17!  All in all, Biden is still the front runner.

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« Reply #69 on: April 16, 2019, 02:29:13 PM »
Kat, do you happen to know the FoxNews numbers on Biden/Trump?

(if they exist that is, couldn't find this poll)

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« Reply #70 on: April 16, 2019, 11:13:22 PM »
Sanders town hall on Fox: audience cheers for sanders health plan

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bernie-sanders-takes-stage-at-fox-news-town-hall-after-emerging-as-apparent-dem-frontrunner

youtube:





Well, well, well. Into the lions den, but the lions were pussycats. The democrats attack him worse than fox does.

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« Reply #72 on: April 17, 2019, 02:26:05 PM »
Kat, do you happen to know the FoxNews numbers on Biden/Trump?

(if they exist that is, couldn't find this poll)

Yes.  Follow this link:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-biden-sanders-top-democratic-preference

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« Reply #73 on: April 17, 2019, 02:59:00 PM »
...this link:

Thank you Kat.

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Sanders has a 3-point edge over the president (44-41 percent), but Biden performs best, topping Trump by 7 points (47-40 percent).

If only Biden was running.

Why isn't he (so far) though? Any theories?

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« Reply #74 on: April 17, 2019, 03:56:50 PM »
...this link:

Thank you Kat.

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Sanders has a 3-point edge over the president (44-41 percent), but Biden performs best, topping Trump by 7 points (47-40 percent).

If only Biden was running.

Why isn't he (so far) though? Any theories?

My guess is, that after all the other candidates (except for Sanders) crash and burn, the party will come running to Biden.  He will ride in on his white horse, in an attempt to save the election.

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« Reply #75 on: April 17, 2019, 07:57:02 PM »
If only Biden was running.

Why isn't he (so far) though? Any theories?

I agree with Kat that Biden wants it to be given to him, because he's so special.

But as Kyle Kulinski says: Just as with Clinton, as soon as he starts talking at rallies, etc., his numbers will go down inevitably. That's because he's a neoliberal, a Republican in Democrat's clothing, and people see through it.
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« Reply #76 on: April 17, 2019, 08:13:41 PM »
and people see through it

I sure hope so.

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« Reply #77 on: April 17, 2019, 10:32:21 PM »
Biden is a solid choice if you want to ensure we don't progress beyond where we were under Obama and are only concerned with potentially beating Trump. Frankly, I'm not content with that and don't think Trump will lose based on the current pool of candidates, as much as I'd like to be wrong on that. It's really hard to get moderates out to vote for somebody when that somebody isn't inspiring or working for them.

Sanders might manage it if enough people are truly concerned about healthcare costs and higher education access, but a lot of them will have to look through the media "socialism" haze to get there.

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« Reply #78 on: April 17, 2019, 10:38:53 PM »
Sanders might manage it if enough people are truly concerned about healthcare costs and higher education access, but a lot of them will have to look through the media "socialism" haze to get there.

Fox let Sanders explain what socialism is. I'm not sure if this is what Fox envisaged:



At the same time, I'm sure that the people at Fox knew what to expect. So, I have no idea why they did this.
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« Reply #79 on: April 17, 2019, 11:48:47 PM »
At the same time, I'm sure that the people at Fox knew what to expect. So, I have no idea why they did this.

Maybe they grow tired of cheer leading for Trump? One can dream...

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« Reply #80 on: April 18, 2019, 03:27:15 AM »
At the same time, I'm sure that the people at Fox knew what to expect. So, I have no idea why they did this.

Maybe they grow tired of cheer leading for Trump? One can dream...
Fox reminding Trump on who is the real boss?
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« Reply #81 on: April 18, 2019, 03:38:27 AM »
Socialism is great, but scale matters and homogeneity matter A LOT. A small nation of people who look and think alike can make socialism work very very well. There are no counter-examples.
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« Reply #82 on: April 18, 2019, 04:09:35 AM »
At the same time, I'm sure that the people at Fox knew what to expect. So, I have no idea why they did this.

Maybe they grow tired of cheer leading for Trump? One can dream...
Fox reminding Trump on who is the real boss?
I think it's more like it doesn't matter what Bernie says because their entire viewing audience will vote Trump regardless.

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« Reply #83 on: April 18, 2019, 06:30:22 AM »
I think it's more like it doesn't matter what Bernie says because their entire viewing audience will vote Trump regardless.

Any poll showing this? Or is this one of your 'political analysis' '.

Because last FoxNews poll i saw they had Trump losing against Bernie.

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« Reply #84 on: April 18, 2019, 08:58:43 AM »
I think it's more like it doesn't matter what Bernie says because their entire viewing audience will vote Trump regardless.

Any poll showing this? Or is this one of your 'political analysis' '.

Because last FoxNews poll i saw they had Trump losing against Bernie.

It is a poll done by Fox News,like CNN or ABC or whatever. That does not mean they poll their audience only. And bbr was talking about Fox News audience, not whole America.

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« Reply #85 on: April 18, 2019, 09:18:00 AM »
It is a poll done by Fox News,like CNN or ABC or whatever. That does not mean they poll their audience only.

Honestly, do you think any poll, regardless of who is polling, is neutral?

And do you also think the "entire viewing audience" votes for Trump? As in 100%?

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« Reply #86 on: April 18, 2019, 09:45:16 AM »
I think it's more like it doesn't matter what Bernie says because their entire viewing audience will vote Trump regardless.

It all depends on whether people associate Trump with the swamp, or whether they believe the lie that he is some outsider upsetting the establishment. That's what makes Russiagate so monumentally stupid, but it was probably planned that way. The goal is to keep real progressives out.

I think that if Sanders can't be intimidated or co-opted to play along, they will cheat him again.
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« Reply #88 on: April 19, 2019, 07:41:55 PM »
Bernie Sanders calls for an end to fossil fuels.

https://cleantechnica.com/2019/04/19/bernie-sanders-calls-for-an-end-to-fossil-fuels/

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This week, Sanders made a rather stunning proposal on behalf of himself and his supporters: “We say to Donald Trump and the fossil fuel industry that climate change is not a hoax but is an existential threat to our country and the entire planet — and we intend to transform our energy system away from fossil fuel and into energy efficiency and sustainable energy and, in the process, create millions of good paying jobs. All of us have a moral responsibility to make certain that the planet we leave to our children and grandchildren is healthy and habitable.” If you go to BernieSanders.com, you will see his entire position on climate change:

Climate change is the single greatest threat facing our planet. Yet the giant, multi-national fossil fuel corporations have spent hundreds of millions of dollars furthering their greed and protecting their profits at the expense of our climate and our future.

The recent report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has made it clear that if we fail to substantially cut the amount of carbon in our atmosphere in under 11 years, the human, environmental, and economic costs will be severe and irreversible.

Climate change is not a problem we will have to worry about 50 years from now. Overwhelming scientific consensus indicates that climate change is already exacerbating extreme weather events like heat waves, wildfires, droughts, floods, and hurricanes. Climate change is already negatively impacting real estate values due to sea level rise and global agriculture and food security through changing water availability, flooding, and drought.

These trends will only continue as global temperatures and sea levels continue to rise. We need a president –Bernie Sanders — who understands that climate change is real and an existential threat to our country and the entire planet. When we are in the White House, we will:
◾Pass a Green New Deal to save American families money and generate millions of jobs by transforming our energy system away from fossil fuels to 100% energy efficiency and sustainable energy. A Green New Deal will protect workers and the communities in which they live to ensure a transition to family-sustaining wage, union jobs.
◾Invest in infrastructure and programs to protect the frontline communities most vulnerable to extreme climate impacts like wildfires, sea level rise, drought, floods, and extreme weather like hurricanes.
◾Reduce carbon pollution emissions from our transportation system by building out high-speed passenger rail, electric vehicles, and public transit.
◾Ban fracking and new fossil fuel infrastructure and keep oil, gas, and coal in the ground by banning fossil fuel leases on public lands.
◾End exports of coal, natural gas, and crude oil.

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« Reply #89 on: April 19, 2019, 09:20:10 PM »
Buchanan at antiwar: "Trump may have just ceded the peace issue"

"Does Trump really want to go into 2020 as a war party president? "

" in 2016, Trump ran as a different kind of Republican, an opponent of the Iraq War and an anti-interventionist who wanted to get along with Russia’s Vladimir Putin and get out of these Middle East wars. "

"The center of gravity of U.S. politics is shifting toward the Trump position of 2016. And the anti-interventionist wing of the GOP is growing."

"Prediction: By the primaries of 2020, foreign policy will be front and center, and the Democratic Party will have captured the "no-more-wars" political high ground that Candidate Donald Trump occupied in 2016."

https://original.antiwar.com/buchanan/2019/04/18/is-bernie-stealing-trumps-no-more-wars-issue/

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« Reply #91 on: April 22, 2019, 01:32:51 PM »
I saw a commercial awhile ago that showed why AGW is not deciding elections in this country.
It was a montage of elderly "talking heads":
"Global Warming is a hoax."
"I like warming...I get cold at night."
"It's sunspots."
"Global warming is good for plants."
then it showed those talking heads again:
"I vote."
"I vote."
"I vote."
"I vote."
I would almost put this in the humor thread, except it is not funny.
SHARKS (CROSSED OUT) MONGEESE (SIC) WITH FRICKIN LASER BEAMS ATTACHED TO THEIR HEADS

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« Reply #92 on: August 20, 2019, 10:24:02 PM »
Taibbi at rollingstone fears Trump trimphant in 2020:

"Donald Trump doesn’t visit Middle America. He descends upon it. His rallies are awesome spectacles. Gawkers come down from the hills."

"Trump has already staked a claim to a role in history usually reserved for hereditary monarchs at the end of a line of inbreeding"

"Much of America loves its Mad King"

"Royal lunacy is traditionally a secret, but in Twitter-age America it’s a shared national experience. We are all somersaulting down and out the sanity chute. The astonishing thing about Trump is that he wasn’t foisted on us by a council of Bourbons, or by succession law. We elected the man, and are poised to do it again."

"[Democrats] remain ineffective as anything but a punchline to the Trump story."

"This is our penance for turning the presidential campaign into a bread-and-circus entertainment. Middle Americans got so used to getting nothing out of elections, they started treating national politics for what it had become to them, a distant, pretentious sitcom."

"Now they’re writing their own script. They can’t arrange for Jake Tapper to be fed to a shark, so they’ll settle for rolling Donald Trump into Washington. It’s hard to see right now, it being the end of our society and all, but the situation is not without humor ... Can America shoot itself in the head a second time? It sounds, appropriately enough, like the premise of a Trump TV show."

"A lot of candidates scan crowds like they’re looking for the sniper, but Trump acts like he’s ready for a mass frottage session."

" His hair has visibly yellowed since 2016. It’s an amazing, unnatural color, like he was electrocuted in French’s mustard. His neckless physique is likewise a wonder. He looks like he ate Nancy Pelosi."

" Trump stops and does his trademark stump flourish, turning sideways to flash his iguanoid profile before stalking around the lectern in resplendent, obese glory, inviting all to Get a load of me!"

"The news media rate somewhere between herpes and ISIS in much of the country. "

"The average American likes meat, sports, money, porn, cars, cartoons, and shopping. Less popular: socialism, privilege-checking, and the world ending in 10 years ... 2020 Democrats sound like escapees from the Killing Fields."

" Few politicians in history have revealed what they are to voters more than Trump. Christ, we even know what the man’s penis looks like."

" Two groups of people, calling each other assholes across a barricade. Welcome to America in the Donald Trump era."

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/taibbi-trump-2020-be-very-afraid-872299/

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« Reply #93 on: August 21, 2019, 02:20:52 PM »

sidd

JHC That guy can write!


He doesn't turn a phrase, he drifts through a figure eight - and when the smoke clears we find that he's speeding into the slalom feature, sideways!


No wonder the spectators stand transfixed. No wonder the bleachers quake. When his pen careens through a sentence, and stops at a paragraph break, we wait for the smoke from his smoldering nib to abate so that we can retrace the skid marks that document the elegance of his eloquence.


He reminds me of Tom Wolfe when Wolfe was flying with the Angels - flying on speed with Hells Angels that is.
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« Reply #94 on: August 21, 2019, 08:44:05 PM »
Taibbi remind me of Hunter S. Thompson, especially " Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail"

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« Reply #95 on: August 21, 2019, 09:31:47 PM »
Taibbi remind me of Hunter S. Thompson, especially " Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail"

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I was thinking "Electric Kool-Aid Acid Trip" by Wolfe, but they both making up a part of his literary heritage. :)
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« Reply #96 on: September 02, 2019, 09:37:30 PM »
America's Finest News Source on latest Democratic effort to appeal to the rural vote:

"We know you can barely read, so we’ll spell this out for you ... Democrats will fight inequality so you and all your inbred cousins don’t have to live in a trailer anymore"

"Democratic officials have also announced a new “You Think You Can Do Better Than Us?” campaign aimed at increasing turnout among African American and Hispanic voters."

https://politics.theonion.com/democrats-launch-new-listen-up-hayseeds-campaign-to-1837812745

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« Reply #97 on: September 02, 2019, 10:00:31 PM »
You should be happy that Trump won the elections. Otherwise you now had a president that has a husband the was a regular visitor on the lolita express to pedo island.

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« Reply #98 on: September 02, 2019, 10:06:43 PM »
LOL, are you trying to imply your candidate is not a predator and rapist?

Hey, Alexander555, what's that 555 stand for?
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« Reply #99 on: September 02, 2019, 10:12:51 PM »
How would you know he's a rapist ? You hope he's one.