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Re: Test space
« Reply #100 on: July 03, 2019, 12:43:00 AM »
well .. we are rid of the troublemakers .. Uniquorn and A-team ...
2007 + 5 = 2012 + 4 = 2016 + 3 = 2019 ...

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Re: Test space
« Reply #101 on: July 03, 2019, 01:23:11 AM »
Another dramatic exit by our most revered scientist.
Neven, this forum is yours, but I personally find very strange that:
- A member demands other members to be expelled en masse, otherwise he's gone. He can be the pope of Math & Physics, I don't care, he does not have the right, or he should not. And anyway, if he doesn't like the forum he could create one of his own.
- A thread may be created with exclusivity, invitations, privilege (well, he invaded the Test Space and stayed there with almost exclusivity, nobody was bothering His Majesty). What is that, like an Internet of two speeds, one for Royalty and another for the vulgars?
- The melting season thread is just fine, if there weren't so many triggers (people respond less to comments they don't like, including me), and yes, Neven talks to a couple of members. But, except for the triggering, I feel things are going relatively fine.

I profoundly dislike A-Team, now that he went public with the drama and explicitly demanded people be expelled. He is an elitist and almost everything is shit for him. Well DEAL WITH IT, if you have IQ 160 you have to learn to live with 99.73% more idiots than you. Yes I love his contributions, but lately I even forgot the damn Test Space. And Uniquorn is just as brilliant (if not the same person), and a nice member.

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Re: Test space
« Reply #102 on: July 03, 2019, 02:03:47 PM »
I profoundly dislike A-Team, now that he went public with the drama and explicitly demanded people be expelled. He is an elitist and almost everything is shit for him. Well DEAL WITH IT, if you have IQ 160 you have to learn to live with 99.73% more idiots than you. 

There is zero value in commenting on other members.
This is generally a science-based forum.  Science isn't a democracy, it's a meritocracy.  Meritocracy only looks like elitism to those who don't appreciate talent and ability.
Most of us would put up with a lot of distasteful behavior from an Einstein, while being intolerant of the same from Joe Blow. 

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Re: Test space
« Reply #103 on: July 03, 2019, 02:48:28 PM »
 ^^^ +1 .. thanks Steve .. b.c.
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Re: Test space
« Reply #104 on: July 03, 2019, 03:38:25 PM »
I profoundly dislike A-Team, now that he went public with the drama and explicitly demanded people be expelled. He is an elitist and almost everything is shit for him. Well DEAL WITH IT, if you have IQ 160 you have to learn to live with 99.73% more idiots than you. 

There is zero value in commenting on other members.
This is generally a science-based forum.  Science isn't a democracy, it's a meritocracy.  Meritocracy only looks like elitism to those who don't appreciate talent and ability.
Most of us would put up with a lot of distasteful behavior from an Einstein, while being intolerant of the same from Joe Blow.
Tell that there is zero value in whining to A-Team, in wanting to remove all the plebs, and tell to yourself that there are very few scientists around here. Tell to yourself that this is not a scientific conference though the members should respect science as AGW and ASI loss are rooted in science.  Finally my point of view is that if Einstein comes and tells remove everybody I dislike from a public forum, this is My Space, I would tell him to suck it.
BTW We are off topic here, I guess, if replies, we can go to the other thread, Forum Decorum
« Last Edit: July 03, 2019, 03:54:03 PM by Sterks »

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Re: Test space
« Reply #105 on: July 04, 2019, 12:52:45 PM »
Here testing osisaf overlaid onto worldview aqua modis at 50% with nearly all background set to transparent, attempting to show only the arrows. Some artifacts remain. I haven't worked out how to get the vectors from the .nc files :(
Osisaf is showing drift from the previous 2 days in this configuration, jun25-27-jul1-3
maybe should have applied contrast to wv first

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Re: Test space
« Reply #106 on: July 04, 2019, 01:22:51 PM »
Worldview looks better but the artifacts spoil it when zoomed in on an area of current interest. large gif, but this is a test thread. click to run.
btw, tis too hot for gardening right now
Probably should match the worldview dates to the mid osisaf date next time.
« Last Edit: July 04, 2019, 01:34:19 PM by uniquorn »

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Re: Test space
« Reply #107 on: July 05, 2019, 07:44:19 PM »
testing size, won't be up for long

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Re: Test space
« Reply #108 on: July 05, 2019, 07:51:15 PM »
Wow, that's awesome Uniquorn.

Makes it pretty clear the melt on the Pacific side is mainly driven by Pacific waters coming in, no?

(glad i grabbed it soon enough! ;) )

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Re: Test space
« Reply #109 on: July 13, 2019, 12:26:33 PM »
Testing unihamburg amsr2-uhh, caa coast, 2013-2019. Many errors, no corrections, no dates, missing data, probably won't bother to do it again. Low quality to reduce file size. Some may find it interesting.
edit:Thanks for the suggestions below oren, but there are too many corrections to make on the amsr2 files. I've removed it as it justs clogs up the thread.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2019, 02:06:23 PM by uniquorn »

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Re: Test space
« Reply #110 on: July 13, 2019, 12:56:29 PM »
Actually very interesting, especially considering the effect the CAA may have on a new record. I am personally less interested in the CAB-CAA crack, which has more of a headline value.
But, it requires at least year labels. I could recognize 2016 by the "garlic press". I note that the CAA changed beahvior after that, filled with MYI and more resilient to movement and melting and clearout. A bit like the old Arctic ocean.
In addition, I would drop 3 months Jan-Mar out of each year, to make it shorter.
That is of course if you plan to ever make another...

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Re: Test space
« Reply #111 on: July 16, 2019, 09:46:57 PM »
testing todays nullschool temp/wind badly overlaid onto yesterdays worldview and amsr2
speed is wrong due to reducing file size
obviously ns overlay rotation is wrong too.
removed.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2019, 12:57:00 AM by uniquorn »

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Re: Test space
« Reply #112 on: July 17, 2019, 04:52:40 PM »
I sympathize with A-Team's frustration concerning the melting season discussions. Except for Nico Sun's albedo warming potential, which has shown some promise for guiding predictions, there is no skill in September minimum forecasts. To make a skillful forecast it is first necessary to predict weather over a month out. Of course, that's no all that's needed, but because it's impossible to do that all of the September forecasts are at best ways of testing our models and ideas. Generally they are entertainment without scientific content.

There is far too much noise in this year's melting season threads.

I don't blame people with bad intentions, although there have undoubtedly been a few trolls. This place has become popular and people who have little or no content to add get excited and jump in with emotional content. That's human nature, I guess. So this place is a victim of an interesting year and the success of this forum in grabbing a large audience.

There is no easy answer to this problem. Creating a thread for expert posts would cause its own set of problems.

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Re: Test space
« Reply #113 on: July 19, 2019, 05:40:47 PM »
Agreed. We just get used to scrolling more.
Here testing large mp4 of unihamburg amsr2uhh jun1-jul18 using ffmpeg -crf 29 which compresses to 2.12MB
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Choose a CRF value. The range of the CRF scale is 0–51, where 0 is lossless, 23 is the default, and 51 is worst quality possible. A lower value generally leads to higher quality, and a subjectively sane range is 17–28
not quite sane then.

Obviously it is intended to be viewed full screen - double click probably. Is it too big for mobiles (portables)?

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Re: Test space
« Reply #114 on: July 19, 2019, 05:59:27 PM »
Your animation can be viewed in Chrome for Android with a bit of scrolling around. I prefer embedded videos so thank you for your efforts.
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Re: Test space
« Reply #115 on: July 19, 2019, 06:19:25 PM »
Cheers Uniquorn .. if only you could provide as clear a view looking forward as you do looking back ! b.c.
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Re: Test space
« Reply #116 on: July 19, 2019, 07:00:58 PM »
There is far too much noise in this year's melting season threads.

Understatement.

uniquorn, I love that animation, thanks. Flawless. (desktop, fullscreen, low-ish bandwidth)
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Re: Test space
« Reply #117 on: July 19, 2019, 07:09:37 PM »
ditto on loving the movie, except I have lots of bandwith
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Re: Test space
« Reply #118 on: July 19, 2019, 09:14:07 PM »
It's interesting and frightening to imagine that people with an agenda come here to sew discord within the forum. Unfortunately these issues will only worsen the more people who come here.
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Re: Test space
« Reply #119 on: July 20, 2019, 12:20:54 AM »
Uniquorn, the animation is superb, having watched it 10 times on the phone, each time focusing on a different region. I recommend posting it as is in the melting season thread.
I must add, the quick complete destruction of the ESS and Laptev fast ice is nothing short of astounding. I just hope the CAA doesn't follow suite, as the south end of Parry Channel started to crumble big time.

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Re: Test space
« Reply #120 on: July 20, 2019, 12:48:34 AM »
As GIF

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« Reply #121 on: July 20, 2019, 05:09:43 AM »
The animation was stunning and disturbing. Far more ice has melted in the Beaufort sea than was apparent from looking at single images. It was possible to track large blocks and watch them melt out. What is disturbing is that this was thick ice from the central Arctic and multiyear ice from the CAA. The ice pack is in worse shape than I realized before watching the animation.

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Re: Test space
« Reply #122 on: July 21, 2019, 09:25:54 AM »
Testing AMSR2 last 5 days

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Re: Test space
« Reply #123 on: July 21, 2019, 11:06:31 AM »
Hi wildcatter .. the moving frame of the gif distracts badly from following the detail .. but keep on trucking .. b.c.
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