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editing out my own 'wasted time'

Frankly I do not care what happens in or to Venezuela btw. It's none of my business let alone my responsibility to fix.

The key issue for me is not Venezuela itself but that this issue again presents another opportunity for millions of people in and out of the USA to finally face up to and shake off their Conditioning.

It's an opportunity for people to re-evaluate, to drop their many Cultural Myths and personal Beliefs that are no longer sustainable in present time.

That those myths and beliefs they have lived their entire lives accepting as Tuisms are now far less sustainable than even BAU on this planet is Sustainable.

Events like Venezuela then is another opportunity  for people to confront themselves and change how they think about everything now. The more who do this the better for everyone. The sooner genuine systemic changes can begin to be put in place to solve the looming global catastrophe that is AGW/CC. 

Election Monitoring - hard to find - lots of verbiage not many hard nosed analysis can I put my fingers on.

In another thread with the rave by George Galloway he mentioned the Carter Center saying "pristine elections, the best in the world." Now that truly belongs in the over-top-spin Spin category. Yes Carter did say that however it was about the last Election of Chavez in 2012. Just because elections a decade ago wee considered great by the Carter Center does not mean they still are ever since. Galloway doesn't help his cause one bit there.

On the other hand he isn't the only person or media outlet beating the Spin drums over Venezuela elections as this report suggests back in 2012.
and this from 2016

Saw one detailed news report (now can't put my finger on it) that spoke about the United Nations refusal to send Election Observers that the NEC (Venezuela's electoral body) had requested attend. The UN refused and reused to make public the reasons for their refusal, which is most unusual.  They sent a letter in May 2018 to the Govt giving reasons but I can find a copy of that as yet.

--- Quote ---International Electoral Accompaniment Missions Declare May 20 Elections Free and Fair
Read the four reports from the electoral accompaniment mission in full here.
General Report
This is the  report written by the mission as a whole, which includes representatives from countries such as Russia, Palestine, China, Spain, UK, Ireland, USA, Australia, Syria, Switzerland, Germany, Italy, the Philippines, Indonesia, France, Brazil, Argentina, Ecuador, Bolivia, Uruguay, Chile, Surinam, Paraguay, Colombia, and Peru.
    "We the international accompaniers consider that the technical and professional trustworthiness and independence of the National Electoral Council of Venezuela are uncontestable."
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Not read all that, not sure what to make of it.

--- Quote ---Elections in Venezuela: Democratic, Fair and Transparent
Nicolas Maduro was re-elected president for the 2019-2025 period by more than two thirds of the voters. The Lima Group, Luis Almagro and the Canadian government immediately issued declarations of not recognizing the elections for being illegitimate, as if they had been prepared before May 20. However, is there any valid basis to those declarations?
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--- Quote ---International Observers to Venezuela’s Election Pen Letter to the EU
International observers to Venezuela’s elections have written to Federica Mogherini, High Representative of the EU for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, about the problems with the EU declaration on the elections.

We were unanimous in concluding that the elections were conducted fairly, that the election conditions were not biased, that genuine irregularities were exceptionally few and of a very minor nature. There was no vote buying because there is no way that a vote CAN be bought. The procedure itself precludes any possibility of anyone knowing how a voter cast her or his vote; and it is impossible – as we verified – for an individual to vote more than once or for anyone to vote on behalf of someone else.

In short, the claims in your press release are fabrications of the most disgraceful kind, based on hearsay and not on evidence and unworthy of the EU. It has not escaped notice that the EU was invited to send observers to the election and declined to do so. NONE of the criticism in your EU press release is, therefore, based on direct EU observation in the field.
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--- Quote ---Observing Venezuela’s Election and the Myths Around It
An official observer to Venezuela’s presidential election, Fox addresses some of the media-generated myths that are rooted in opposition to a chavismo project which improved the lives of millions.
Internationally, Chávez aimed to reduce, if not eliminate, what he felt to be the economic and the political domination of his country by the United States. He collaborated with other like-minded governments in Latin America to achieve the same at continental level. He called his political programme the ‘Bolivarian Revolution’ and even changed the country’s formal name to the ‘Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela’ in honour of Simón Bolívar, the great 19th century leader of South America’s independence from Spain. Romantic certainly, but a permanent reminder that independence – the right of a nation to choose its own destiny lay, and continues to lie – at the heart of the chavista project.

For some within the country, the Bolivarian Revolution has always been an anathema. An attempt to unseat Chávez by force in 2002 nearly succeeded. It was foiled by the army, which has remained a stout defender of the country’s democracy. Nicolás Maduro, Chávez’s successor, has met with a different kind of resistance: street violence and calls from opponents for the United States to help topple Maduro and his ‘regime’.

Maduro is a substantial figure, with an impressive command of the stage, but he came to power during an economic downturn brought on by a dramatic fall in the price of oil. He won the 2013 election – with a very narrow majority – to cries of fraud from the supporters of his rightwing opponent, Henrique Capriles. Without the oil revenues that had financed Chávez’s social policies, Venezuela’s ill-balanced economy, with its heavy dependence on oil, became evident. Imports of food, medicines and consumer goods fell away, creating shortages that severely affected the less well-off.
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Apparently varying opinions abound.

It's critical to know the lead up to these elections were extremely complicated due to the Opposition Parties winning control of the "assembly" (eg like the Congress) in the elections before. They outright refused to cooperate in any way with the Govt and in fact refused to "work". In 3 years (?) they have not passed a single Law.

So imagine what would a US President do if the Congress refused to do anything? If they never even bothered to turn up to work? Pretty strange way to operate. Their Supreme Court tried to fix that and condemned those involved but little could be done (it's complex, but this is has underpinned the problems in the 2018 election from the get go. Also hard because I don't speak Spanish where most fo teh news about this would be found in detail.) 

Maduro was "forced" to set up an alternative body, originally to handle developing a new/revised Constitution at some point... its job was expanded which included establishing the setup for the next election in 2018. All the way through the Opposition refused to cooperate at all.

Furthermore historically it's interesting. The last time the Carter Center was an election observer was in 2015.    see

--- Quote ---As scheduled, on Sunday June 28 the United Socialist Party of Venezuela (PSUV) held its primary elections. The event was prolonged until 10 pm following PSUV pleas to the CNE claiming large voter turnouts at some polling centers. At the close of election day activities, PSUV vice-president DiosdadoCabello expressed his satisfaction at what he termed the population’s“historic”participation with a total of 3,162,400 voters.

Even though the PSUVheld its primary elections in all 87 of the country’s districts, only 98 of the 113 candidates to be elected by nominal vote were chosen in the primary process and the party-list proportional deputies were notvoted on. Altogether, 59 percent of all nominees were elected in the primaries. The remaining 69 PSUV candidates will be decided on by political party cadres through negotiation or by consensus with all ten member parties comprising the “SimónBolívar” Great Patriotic Pole (GPPSB).

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--- Quote ---Then, in the context of the case against the Venezuelan media outlets known as ElNacional, TalCual, and LaPatilla for “continuous aggravated defamation,” the court prohibited 22 executives of these media outlets from leaving the country. The lawsuit, filed by National Assembly President Diosdado Cabello, seeks to punish these outlets for replicating information published in the Spanish newspaper ABC last February linking him to drug trafficking.
[ Fake News or not Fake News? ]

and the main Opposition Parties primary voting results

Also, as scheduled, during the period covered by this report the Democratic Unity Table (Mesadela Unidad Democrática‐MUD) held the primaries it had announced to select 25 percent of the candidates to represent the various parties in the opposition coalition in the 2015 parliamentary elections. The MUD’s primary elections were held with technical support from the National Electoral Council in 33 of the country’s 87 districts, culminating in the selection of 37 candidates.

Unity Table officers announced that the total number of voters was 570,892, accounting for 7.64 percent of the registered voters in the districts where the elections were held. The PrimeroJusticia (PJ) and VoluntadPopular (VP) parties managed to rank first and second, respectively, in the number of votes cast and the number of candidates elected. MUD leaders considered the elections “successful” describing the level of participation as “higher than expected.”

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So Maduro's Party in 2015 has a 3,162,400 primary voter turnout, while the Opposition Parties gets  570,892 ? That surely says something.

Much details on Wikipedia

One thing I found intriguing is the huge variations in the pre-election Polling numbers. Something is not right there including the fact they only use 1000 respondents in these polls, versus the typical 2000+ required for such a national poll.

--- Quote ---In a January 2018 poll surrounding the presidential election, Meganalisis stated that only 29% of respondents desired to vote in the elections and 72.5% stated that they did not trust the CNE electoral body. Those who chose not to vote had various reasons; 45% believed that even if they voted, hunger would continue, 20% believed it was a "waste of time", and 13% believed that the opposition had betrayed the country. As for the support of political parties, 81% stated that they were not part of any party, 12% were part of the government PSUV party, and 6% supported the opposition-led MUD.

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How trustworthy these polling firms are I have no idea. But it;s true that the Opposition supporting people operate all the TV stations and media there ... except for Telesur which is govt funded.

I will have a break now. :)


 ‘They want to enslave us!’ Maduro slams Trump’s ultimatum & ‘Nazi-style’ attack on socialism
Published time: 19 Feb, 2019

 Nicolas Maduro has slammed Donald Trump’s belligerent rhetoric and his crusade against socialism after US president effectively ordered Venezuelan military to support opposition leader Juan Guaido, if they care about their future.

“Who is the commander of the armed forces, Donald Trump from Miami?” president Maduro wondered aloud after the US leader virtually issued an ultimatum to the Venezuelan armed forces, warning officers they won’t have any possible “way out” unless they accept Guaido’s “generous offer” to defect without retribution while they still can.

“They think they own the country!” Maduro said on state television, noting that Trump's “arrogant orders” are an “offense to [the] dignity” of the Venezuelan military, who stand ready to defend the country's sovereignty.

The 56-year-old Venezuelan leader also slammed Trump’s attack on socialism in his country and elsewhere, pointing out that the White House’s “Nazi-style discourse” seeks to limit political diversity and impose a “colonial model” of US “supremacy” across Latin America. “They want to enslave us,” Maduro said.

    #Maduro: ‘US humanitarian aid is crumbs, a show by the US govt to humiliate #Venezuela’
    — RT (@RT_com) February 17, 2019

Trump’s speech in Miami, which spelled out a US crusade against socialism in Latin America, was also challenged by Cuban Foreign Minister Bruno Rodriguez.

“Humanitarian aid is a pretext for a war of oil plunder,” Rodriguez said on Twitter, accusing Trump of trying to impose a “puppet” president in Venezuela. The “offensive” rhetoric only “confirms the threat of military aggression against Venezuela,” the diplomat added.


--- Quote from: Lurk on January 31, 2019, 03:49:21 AM ---
Maduro is wasting his time and his breath

Maduro to Americans:
  You are bigger than Trump, don’t let him start ‘Vietnam’ war against Venezuela

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