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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #750 on: December 28, 2019, 02:55:27 PM »
blumenkraft:
Most of their pictures make them look oldish.
Shame most of them won't live long enough to see if they were wrong.
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #751 on: December 28, 2019, 04:41:27 PM »
^^
I'm sure most at least are very aware that what they've been spouting is BS. Very expensive BS, but BS nonetheless.


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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #752 on: December 28, 2019, 05:42:30 PM »
blumenkraft:
Most of their pictures make them look oldish.
Shame most of them won't live long enough to see if they were wrong.

Even more of a shame they exist in the first place. :(
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #753 on: December 28, 2019, 07:29:20 PM »
2019 in 5 words.

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Greta Thunberg (@GretaThunberg) 12/28/19, 9:16 AM
Our house is on fire.

#2019in5words
https://twitter.com/gretathunberg/status/1210927616229826560
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #754 on: December 29, 2019, 07:09:37 PM »
I must admit I was well down the list and thinking, what happened to Singer, Monckton and Spencer.  Then there they were, tucked away at the end.

I was a tad disappointed to find that Singers past activities to delay Tobacco legislation, by casting doubt on the impact on humans.  Even though both he and his employers knew it was true. Seems to have been lost.  It is a very important fact.

As for shaming them?  You have no chance beause they don't interact with the world which believes (knows), differently.
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #755 on: December 29, 2019, 07:47:17 PM »

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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #756 on: December 29, 2019, 09:51:54 PM »
A sad truth, i'm afraid.  :-\
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #757 on: January 01, 2020, 04:32:49 PM »
Skeptical Science website

"While putting together the @skepticscience recap for 2019 one interesting development stood out: after the spike for unique visits in September the number didn't drop back completely but seems to have stabilised at a distinctly higher level.
Read https://skepticalscience.com/2019-SkS-Review.html#Website for more.”

https://mobile.twitter.com/baerbelw/status/1212328261247787015
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #758 on: January 03, 2020, 09:00:02 PM »
A buyout program is being offered to homes in Texas in locations that have flooded repeatedly.

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https://montgomerycountypolicereporter.com/upcoming-events-for-our-buyout-program/

Montgomery County homes vulnerable to repeat flooding issues
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“Unfortunately, 100-137 homes [typically] flood when there is torrential rains, and some of these homes have flooded seven and eight times,” Goodman said. “But in Harvey, we had [hundreds of] homes that actually flooded, many of which had never flooded before. A lot of those homeowners had no flood insurance because they never had to worry about [flooding] before.”

For Conroe-area subdivisions along the West Fork of the San Jacinto River, like River Plantation, Harvey was not the first flooding event to tear through their communities. Now, local officials are considering projects and ordinances to address flooding concerns. ...
https://communityimpact.com/houston/conroe-montgomery/editors-pick/2018/04/19/montgomery-county-homes-vulnerable-to-repeat-flooding-issues/
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #759 on: January 03, 2020, 10:09:26 PM »
Toronto did this in the aftermath of a hurricane in the '50's. The wooded ravines and riverside parks are seen as valued assets.
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #760 on: January 07, 2020, 04:41:26 PM »
UK media to Australia politician:
"You're not a climate sceptic, you're a climate denier."
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"You're facing one of the greatest crises you've ever faced and there is you Mr Kelly, with respect a senior politician, who still doesn't think this has anything to do with a heating up planet.

"Nothing to see here, nothing to worry about as virtually your entire country is eviscerated by fires - it is quite extraordinary."
https://amp.9news.com.au/article/ed8dbdc8-30d0-4547-bd60-d7d15e4da61f
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #761 on: January 07, 2020, 09:50:31 PM »
Daniel Flöjt (@MediYoga_ax) on Twitter:
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #762 on: January 14, 2020, 05:11:21 PM »
World’s largest asset manager shifts focus to climate change
Associated Press - 2 hours ago

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BlackRock, the world’s largest asset manager, will make climate change central to its investment decisions.

Founder and CEO Laurence Fink, who oversees the management of about $7 trillion in funds, said in his influential annual letter to CEOs Tuesday that he believes we are “on the edge of a fundamental reshaping of finance” because of a warming planet.

Climate change has become the top issue raised by clients, Fink said, and it will affect everything from municipal bonds to long-term mortgages for homes.

The New York firm is taking immediate action, exiting investments in coal used to generate power, and it will begin asking clients to disclose their climate-related risks.

“Because capital markets pull future risk forward, we will see changes in capital allocation more quickly than we see changes to the climate itself,” Fink wrote in the letter. “In the near future – and sooner than most anticipate – there will be a significant reallocation of capital.”
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About time!
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #763 on: January 14, 2020, 05:55:54 PM »
U.S. Flood Risk Model to Be Publicly Available in Boon for Homebuyers
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NEW YORK (Reuters) - A climate research organization will offer access to a risk model that predicts the probability of flooding for homes across the United States, giving the public a look at the data institutional investors use to gauge risk.
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better data for real people ... When it becomes available.

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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #764 on: January 14, 2020, 08:09:59 PM »
From the Financial Review
“BlackRock, the world's largest fund manager, is dumping more than half a billion dollars in thermal coal shares from all of its actively managed portfolios, as part of a more active global stance on climate change driven by chief executive Larry Fink.
The coal ban, which includes any company earning 25 per cent of its revenue from thermal coal,“

Seems to me to be a pretty big (25%) escape clause.

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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #765 on: January 14, 2020, 10:17:59 PM »
I guess we should encourage baby steps by BlackRock.  What about petroleum and natural gas? What about loans to FF companies?

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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #766 on: January 15, 2020, 04:06:35 PM »
If it is BlackRock they also see just see better ways to earn money going forward. That is no big surprise. To them it does not really make a difference if their dollar comes from greenwashing or progress.

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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #767 on: January 17, 2020, 08:47:14 PM »
U.S.

For the first time, the Alarmed are the single largest group of 'Global Warming's Six Americas' at 31%. Over the past 5 years, they have tripled in size and are now 3x the number of Dismissive in the US (who have decreased).
https://climatecommunication.yale.edu/publications/for-the-first-time-the-alarmed-are-now-the-largest-of-global-warmings-six-americas/
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #768 on: January 17, 2020, 09:35:06 PM »
Sigmetnow:
I’ve gone from concerned to alarmed in that time frame.
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #769 on: January 17, 2020, 09:50:45 PM »
Sigmetnow:
I’ve gone from concerned to alarmed in that time frame.

Me, too.  Although I was already close to Alarmed in 2014.
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #770 on: January 22, 2020, 12:58:48 AM »
Oil and gas sector ‘losing its social licence to operate’, UK boss warns
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Tim Eggar, chairman of the UK’s Oil and Gas Authority (OGA), sent shockwaves through the industry on Wednesday (15 January) when he said growing public awareness about climate change was putting the sector’s very survival at stake.

Shifting public attitudes towards climate change is “the biggest challenge” facing the oil and gas industry, Eggar said in a speech to industry leaders this week.

“Clearly, climate change is happening right now. That debate is over,” he told industry delegates in Aberdeen, according to a transcript of his speech published on the OGA’s website.

The oil and gas industry must “act much, much faster and go farther in reducing the carbon footprint” he said, adding: “This requires ambitious thinking, capital investment and bold leadership. Action not just talk or more analysis.”

Failing to do so would have dire consequences for the oil and gas sector, Eggar warned, saying the industry’s very survival is at stake.

“The licence to operate for the industry has changed fundamentally and – unlike the oil price – forever,” he said. “If the industry wants to survive and contribute to the energy transition it has to adapt,” he stressed. ...
https://www.euractiv.com/section/energy/news/oil-and-gas-sector-losing-its-social-licence-to-operate-uk-boss-warns/
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #771 on: January 22, 2020, 09:31:22 PM »
U.S.

Has Conservative Utah Turned a Corner on Climate Change?
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When Utah lawmakers start their legislative session next week, they'll have a roadmap waiting for them that could become one of the nation's most aggressive climate action plans in a Republican-led state—and potentially a path forward for other conservative states looking to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

That the proposal even exists signals a major shift in thinking in a state where legislators for years have publicly questioned—and sometimes ridiculed—climate science. 

Led by a University of Utah economics think tank, proponents of the seven-point strategy managed to dodge political potholes by emphasizing widely supported goals like cleaning up air pollution and stressing economic benefits, an approach some policy experts say could provide a model for bipartisan action on climate change in other conservative states.

"That's the sort of framing that can help change the conversation in a way that does bridge partisan divides," said Jay Turner, an environmental politics and policy researcher at Wellesley College and co-author of the book "The Republican Reversal: Conservatives and the Environment from Nixon to Trump."

 Conservatives in the State Capitol haven't abandoned fossil fuels. They actively support lawsuits to open up West Coast shipping terminals and maintain a $53 million fund to help build export capacity for shipping Utah coal overseas. But widespread public concern about air pollution has also made them more receptive to emissions reductions.

Utah's shift started with high school students raising their voices. In 2018, they succeeded in persuading lawmakers to pass a resolution acknowledging the risks of climate change that Republican Gov. Gary Herbert signed. Then, last year, the legislature voted to provide $200,000 for the University of Utah's business school to report on the state's air pollution and climate change problems and recommend solutions. ...
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/21012020/utah-climate-change-plan-conservative-legislature-coal-emissions-salt-lake
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Re: What's New in Climate Change Acceptance and Action
« Reply #772 on: January 23, 2020, 04:06:16 PM »
UN Human Rights Committee issues first ruling in favor of climate refugees

Full sentece in pdf. here: https://tbinternet.ohchr.org/_layouts/15/treatybodyexternal/Download.aspx?symbolno=CCPR/C/127/D/2728/2016&Lang=en

(Sorry, don't know how to take extracts from the document, but it addresses interesting views on the consequences of climate change)