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Pmt111500

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Science basics-thread?
« on: July 04, 2019, 08:31:19 AM »
As the forum has grown to a quite large place, it might be useful to have a science basics thread. Kind of 'RTFM' or 'FAQ' of old. Sure, there are some details to be discussed in most scientific issues like the one with the band broadening questioned by Gerlich & Tschesuner some years back which was properly refuted by better men than me. But surely, there are some common questions and misunderstanindings that take up a whole lotta space elsewhere.

Like a list of simple facts like the one I recently had to check, methane is indeed lighter than air and thus accumulates to TOA in the tropics where massive sprite lightning may destroy some of it...

Or the one I messed up with the MJO confusing the segments on the standard plot.

Like some regular absorption diagrams for common gases. Or a list of heats of fusion and vaporization and the associated temperatutes.

Well, maybe this is a stupid idea, referring to skeptical science is likely always a good choice. But still, should there f.e. be some basic explanation of entropy, blackbody radiation, entalphy, well energy diagrams of chemical reactions and such on a site that mainly deals with ice on natural environments and social cost of carbon (for a lack of a better phrase)? Once there'd be enough info the thread should be locked down.
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Re: Science basics-thread?
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2019, 10:50:53 AM »
Probably, a wiki would be a much more suitable structure for that.

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Re: Science basics-thread?
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2019, 11:16:59 AM »
Probably, a wiki would be a much more suitable structure for that.

Yes, cross-linking several science-articles in a way relevant to climate science would probably be best. There's of course
Spencer Weart's Discovery of GW which does this to some extent, he though left the 'anthropogenic' bit out of the header.
https://history.aip.org/climate/index.htm

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Re: Science basics-thread?
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2019, 02:39:34 PM »
That is a great resource. Back then i really appreciated his explanation of the simple old single column models.

It would be cool if he could do an addendum on more recent model developments and also paleo stuff (all ask him what it costs as soon as i win the lottery).

Not sure how useful a basic science thread is because there about as many levels of basic as there are people.

I suggest just taking the questions as and when they come. Mostly they should pop up in a specific context and might be best answered there (unless they are the threads we would like clutterfree).

I recently reposted Water Vapour Feedback or Forcing? from RealClimate which also has good basic stuff (and more) ... did not think i would repost that 2005 golden oldie but it was still useful.

I think it works in reverse. If the basic questions pop up they will be answered (and as we saw recently then it really depends on what the person asking the question does with the first two links).

Really simple stuff would be just duplicating wikipedia anyway and we can just link that.